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13 Dec 2006 12:37:27 PM |
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Dumb-***** Christian of the day! |
Bumper sticker:
"Don't let the car fool you. My reward is in Heaven." (yes, "Heaven"
with a cap H.)
Vehicle:
Lincoln "Navigator" 4x4 (SUV), manufacturer's suggested retail price...
...$56,000 USD (42,401 Euros/ 28,500 GBP/ 71,328 AUD)
http://www.automobilemag.com/am/2006/lincoln/navigator/prices.html
Good thing I didn't have the Ironymeter in the car.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man, Sep 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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| User: "Airyx" |
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| Title: Re: Dumb-***** Christian of the day! |
13 Dec 2006 04:36:27 PM |
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I don't see the Irony. Are Christians all supposed to drive Yugos?
On Dec 13, 12:37 pm, wrote:
Bumper sticker:
"Don't let the car fool you. My reward is in Heaven." (yes, "Heaven"
with a cap H.)
Vehicle:
Lincoln "Navigator" 4x4 (SUV), manufacturer's suggested retail price...
..$56,000 USD (42,401 Euros/ 28,500 GBP/ 71,328 AUD)http://www.automobilemag.com/am/2006/lincoln/navigator/prices.html
Good thing I didn't have the Ironymeter in the car.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man, Sep 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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| User: "Kilmir" |
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| Title: Re: Dumb-***** Christian of the day! |
13 Dec 2006 04:49:34 PM |
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On Dec 13, 12:37 pm, wrote:
Bumper sticker:
"Don't let the car fool you. My reward is in Heaven." (yes, "Heaven"
with a cap H.)
Vehicle:
Lincoln "Navigator" 4x4 (SUV), manufacturer's suggested retail price...
..$56,000 USD (42,401 Euros/ 28,500 GBP/ 71,328 AUD)http://www.automobilemag.com/am/2006/lincoln/navigator/prices.html
Good thing I didn't have the Ironymeter in the car.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man, Sep 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
Airyx schreef:
I don't see the Irony. Are Christians all supposed to drive Yugos?
How's that for irony heh.
But for the people who don't get it:
A sticker like "my other car is a porsche" or the one above "my reward
is in heaven" is meant for smaller, more humble cars giving the
(usually false) impression that they drive it by choice instead of
budget allowances.
Sticking it up on a large expensive vehicle pretty much nullifies the
humor, but in this case also means that he has it good here (don't let
the car fool you..) but heaven will be worse then what he has now.
That's good irony, especially if the person does't get it himself.
Kilmir
#1944
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| User: "quibbler" |
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| Title: Re: Dumb-***** Christian of the day! |
13 Dec 2006 07:16:15 PM |
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In article <1166050174.049783.40370@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
Kilmir@gmail.com says...
But for the people who don't get it:
A sticker like "my other car is a porsche"
It was meant to be an xian takeoff on this kind of sticker.
Unfortunately, this sort of bumpersticker on any car already is prima
facie evidence the said xer is not following the instructions of Jesus in
Mk 10:21 when he says, "Go, sell everything you have and give to the
poor, and you will have treasure in heaven." On a cheaper car, the
sticker might imply that one had given away one's more luxurious vehicle
to the poor. On a luxury car it just means that aforementioned christer-
moron is a typical, clueless hypochristian.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Dumb-***** Christian of the day! |
13 Dec 2006 08:00:25 PM |
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Kilmir wrote:
On Dec 13, 12:37 pm, wrote:
Bumper sticker:
"Don't let the car fool you. My reward is in Heaven." (yes, "Heaven"
with a cap H.)
Vehicle:
Lincoln "Navigator" 4x4 (SUV), manufacturer's suggested retail price...
..$56,000 USD (42,401 Euros/ 28,500 GBP/ 71,328 AUD)http://www.automobilemag.com/am/2006/lincoln/navigator/prices.html
Good thing I didn't have the Ironymeter in the car.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man, Sep 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
Airyx schreef:
I don't see the Irony. Are Christians all supposed to drive Yugos?
How's that for irony heh.
But for the people who don't get it:
A sticker like "my other car is a porsche" or the one above "my reward
is in heaven" is meant for smaller, more humble cars giving the
(usually false) impression that they drive it by choice instead of
budget allowances.
Sticking it up on a large expensive vehicle pretty much nullifies the
humor, but in this case also means that he has it good here (don't let
the car fool you..) but heaven will be worse then what he has now.
That's good irony, especially if the person does't get it himself.
Kilmir wins a cigar (tobac or candy, your choice) for the correct
answer! <g>
-PF, Atl.
#2015
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| User: "Father Haskell" |
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13 Dec 2006 08:26:09 PM |
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Airyx wrote:
I don't see the Irony. Are Christians all supposed to drive Yugos?
Keds. Or sheep.
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| User: "quibbler" |
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13 Dec 2006 07:10:24 PM |
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In article <1166049387.626948.325440@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
eweinkam@attbi.com says...
I don't see the Irony. Are Christians all supposed to drive Yugos?
They're not supposed to drive anything because dumbass jeebers said
(Mk10:21) "Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you
will have treasure in heaven". Obviously the xers feel guilty about not
following the command and are trying to forestall this by saying that
they value "heavenly treasure" more than material goods. But they
apparently don't grasp the concept of how jesus told them to earn
spiritual treasure, among other things.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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13 Dec 2006 10:55:02 PM |
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:10:24 -0700, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
they value "heavenly treasure" more than material goods. But they
apparently don't grasp the concept of how jesus told them to earn
spiritual treasure, among other things.
Wasn't that the part about "keeping what is Caesar's"?
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you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good...Our
goal is a Christian nation. We have a Biblical duty, we are called by
God, to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't want
pluralism."
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Wayne, Indiana, 8-16-93
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Dumb-***** Christian of the day! |
14 Dec 2006 01:06:06 AM |
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In article <s6m1o2ld0koh44fj2eqeek6d3hc4jfmjtk@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 18:10:24 -0700, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
they value "heavenly treasure" more than material goods. But they
apparently don't grasp the concept of how jesus told them to earn
spiritual treasure, among other things.
Wasn't that the part about "keeping what is Caesar's"?
That's for the clergy.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "Airyx" |
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| Title: Re: Dumb-***** Christian of the day! |
15 Dec 2006 11:49:52 AM |
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quibbler wrote:
In article <1166049387.626948.325440@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
eweinkam@attbi.com says...
I don't see the Irony. Are Christians all supposed to drive Yugos?
They're not supposed to drive anything because dumbass jeebers said
(Mk10:21) "Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you
will have treasure in heaven".
That's true, that is written there, but I think you've totally missed
the point of that passage. You have scraped Jesus' comment out of
context to make it mean something that it doesn't.
-A rich guy comes to Jesus and tells him that he has obeyed all of the
laws, and wants to know if that will earn his way into heaven.
-Jesus responds with the line you quoted above. He's pointing out that
the guy, in fact, has NOT obeyed all of the OT laws. Then the guy walks
away dejected because he can't bring himself to do that.
-Jesus' followers, didn't understand that statement because it seemed
to conflict with his previous teachings that had no issue with
collecting wealth. Jesus then has to explain it to them in more
detail, but they still don't get it.
The point is that it isn't possible to earn your way into Heaven by
obeying all of the laws, because nobody is capable of obeying all of
those laws. The passage has nothing to do with collecting wealth,
that's just the example he used to make the point.
If you plan to ridicule Christians for what they believe, you need to
know what it is that they believe.
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| User: "VtSkier" |
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| Title: Re: Dumb-***** Christian of the day! |
15 Dec 2006 01:14:27 PM |
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Airyx wrote:
quibbler wrote:
In article <1166049387.626948.325440@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
eweinkam@attbi.com says...
I don't see the Irony. Are Christians all supposed to drive Yugos?
They're not supposed to drive anything because dumbass jeebers said
(Mk10:21) "Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you
will have treasure in heaven".
That's true, that is written there, but I think you've totally missed
the point of that passage. You have scraped Jesus' comment out of
context to make it mean something that it doesn't.
-A rich guy comes to Jesus and tells him that he has obeyed all of the
laws, and wants to know if that will earn his way into heaven.
-Jesus responds with the line you quoted above. He's pointing out that
the guy, in fact, has NOT obeyed all of the OT laws. Then the guy walks
away dejected because he can't bring himself to do that.
-Jesus' followers, didn't understand that statement because it seemed
to conflict with his previous teachings that had no issue with
collecting wealth. Jesus then has to explain it to them in more
detail, but they still don't get it.
The point is that it isn't possible to earn your way into Heaven by
obeying all of the laws, because nobody is capable of obeying all of
those laws. The passage has nothing to do with collecting wealth,
that's just the example he used to make the point.
If you plan to ridicule Christians for what they believe, you need to
know what it is that they believe.
Remember too, that this depends on your flavor of christianity.
If you are a good Calvinist, you view wealth and your ability
to accumulate wealth as an outward sign that you are among the
elect. This is in extreme conflict with the teaching quoted above,
yet still from the same book, or another interpretation thereof.
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| User: "Airyx" |
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| Title: Re: Dumb-***** Christian of the day! |
15 Dec 2006 01:37:05 PM |
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On Dec 15, 1:14 pm, VtSkier <VtSk...@nospam.net> wrote:
If you are a good Calvinist, you view wealth and your ability
to accumulate wealth as an outward sign that you are among the
elect. This is in extreme conflict with the teaching quoted above,
yet still from the same book, or another interpretation thereof.- Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -
I think you need to brush up on your Calvin. He wrote mostly about
pre-determination and free will, not wealth. Even if wealth were some
indication of favor from God (which was a Jewish concept that didn't
carry over to Christianity), it wouldn't be in conflict with the above
passage because that passage, in no way, says that Christans are
supposed to sell all of their belongings and give them to the poor. It
says that even if you were to do that, that STILL wouldn't earn you a
passage to heaven.
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| User: "Bill M" |
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15 Dec 2006 03:45:48 PM |
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Trying to obtain wisdom or rules for living from the Bibles is a total waste
of time.
The Bibles are loaded with contradictions, myths, fables and impossible
tales.
"VtSkier" <VtSkier@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:4ugaghF176lddU1@mid.individual.net...
Airyx wrote:
quibbler wrote:
In article <1166049387.626948.325440@t46g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
eweinkam@attbi.com says...
I don't see the Irony. Are Christians all supposed to drive Yugos?
They're not supposed to drive anything because dumbass jeebers said
(Mk10:21) "Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor, and you
will have treasure in heaven".
That's true, that is written there, but I think you've totally missed
the point of that passage. You have scraped Jesus' comment out of
context to make it mean something that it doesn't.
-A rich guy comes to Jesus and tells him that he has obeyed all of the
laws, and wants to know if that will earn his way into heaven.
-Jesus responds with the line you quoted above. He's pointing out that
the guy, in fact, has NOT obeyed all of the OT laws. Then the guy walks
away dejected because he can't bring himself to do that.
-Jesus' followers, didn't understand that statement because it seemed
to conflict with his previous teachings that had no issue with
collecting wealth. Jesus then has to explain it to them in more
detail, but they still don't get it.
The point is that it isn't possible to earn your way into Heaven by
obeying all of the laws, because nobody is capable of obeying all of
those laws. The passage has nothing to do with collecting wealth,
that's just the example he used to make the point.
If you plan to ridicule Christians for what they believe, you need to
know what it is that they believe.
Remember too, that this depends on your flavor of christianity.
If you are a good Calvinist, you view wealth and your ability
to accumulate wealth as an outward sign that you are among the
elect. This is in extreme conflict with the teaching quoted above,
yet still from the same book, or another interpretation thereof.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Dumb-***** Christian of the day! |
14 Dec 2006 01:15:11 AM |
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In article <1166035047.709046.288300@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
wrote:
Bumper sticker:
"Don't let the car fool you. My reward is in Heaven." (yes, "Heaven"
with a cap H.)
Vehicle:
Lincoln "Navigator" 4x4 (SUV), manufacturer's suggested retail price...
..$56,000 USD (42,401 Euros/ 28,500 GBP/ 71,328 AUD)
http://www.automobilemag.com/am/2006/lincoln/navigator/prices.html
Good thing I didn't have the Ironymeter in the car.
LOL! I wonder about some of the bumper stickers that I've seen. Do some
people really like to advertise the fact that they are idiots?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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23 Dec 2006 05:13:36 PM |
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On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 23:15:11 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <1166035047.709046.288300@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
panamfloyd@hotmail.com wrote:
Bumper sticker:
"Don't let the car fool you. My reward is in Heaven." (yes, "Heaven"
with a cap H.)
Vehicle:
Lincoln "Navigator" 4x4 (SUV), manufacturer's suggested retail price...
..$56,000 USD (42,401 Euros/ 28,500 GBP/ 71,328 AUD)
http://www.automobilemag.com/am/2006/lincoln/navigator/prices.html
Good thing I didn't have the Ironymeter in the car.
LOL! I wonder about some of the bumper stickers that I've seen. Do some
people really like to advertise the fact that they are idiots?
Yes. And they're damn proud of it, too!
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Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "quibbler" |
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13 Dec 2006 07:00:02 PM |
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In article <1166035047.709046.288300@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
panamfloyd@hotmail.com says...
Bumper sticker:
"Don't let the car fool you. My reward is in Heaven." (yes, "Heaven"
with a cap H.)
Vehicle:
Lincoln "Navigator" 4x4 (SUV), manufacturer's suggested retail price...
..$56,000 USD
It's probably the local preacher who is a little unclear on the "Go, sell
everything you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in
heaven" bit from Mark 10:21.
Good thing I didn't have the Ironymeter in the car.
Granted, the moron driving the car better not come next to a bible
illiteracy meter either or he'll take out half of North America along
with him
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Dumb-***** Christian of the day! |
13 Dec 2006 02:59:12 PM |
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On 13 Dec 2006 10:37:27 -0800, wrote:
Bumper sticker:
"Don't let the car fool you. My reward is in Heaven." (yes, "Heaven"
with a cap H.)
Vehicle:
Lincoln "Navigator" 4x4 (SUV), manufacturer's suggested retail price...
..$56,000 USD (42,401 Euros/ 28,500 GBP/ 71,328 AUD)
http://www.automobilemag.com/am/2006/lincoln/navigator/prices.html
Good thing I didn't have the Ironymeter in the car.
You wouldn't have understood the meter either.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "quibbler" |
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13 Dec 2006 07:03:03 PM |
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In article <dcq0o2t9bvhq29pjhl8kq242bfkgc9qjnj@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...
On 13 Dec 2006 10:37:27 -0800, wrote:
Bumper sticker:
"Don't let the car fool you. My reward is in Heaven." (yes, "Heaven"
with a cap H.)
Vehicle:
Lincoln "Navigator" 4x4 (SUV), manufacturer's suggested retail price...
..$56,000 USD (42,401 Euros/ 28,500 GBP/ 71,328 AUD)
http://www.automobilemag.com/am/2006/lincoln/navigator/prices.html
Good thing I didn't have the Ironymeter in the car.
You wouldn't have understood the meter either.
Your complete lack of bible literacy is hardly surprising, dookie, you
total fucking moron.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Dumb-***** Christian of the day! |
13 Dec 2006 05:30:42 PM |
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duke wrote:
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
Looks like Pope Paul VI is at odds with that Jesus fellow:
Matthew 6:5-6
And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hyprocrites are: for
they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the
streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have
their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and
when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret;
and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
-AngusH
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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13 Dec 2006 09:51:41 PM |
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On 13 Dec 2006 15:30:42 -0800, wrote:
duke wrote:
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
Looks like Pope Paul VI is at odds with that Jesus fellow:
Matthew 6:5-6
And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hyprocrites are: for
they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the
streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have
their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and
when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret;
and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.
Jesus was a Jew, the Pope is a Christian. Christians don't take
orders from Jews, not even God.
--
rukbat at optonline dot net
"In matters of faith never trust your own judgment, but always humbly
submit to the decisions of the Holy Church."
(page 77, _A Full Catechism of the Catholic Religion_, Fr. Joseph De
Harbe, S.J.)
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