DianaC wrote:

"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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In article <laq3t0501tb6r4cv557vo8b60sqor8bmdm@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 13:35:30 -0700, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:

p.s. Theist idiots will probably also dust off some version of the "Free
Will Defense". You know stopping earthquakes and tidal waves might
interfere with the free will of little children to be drowned in their
sleep and end up in the belly of shark. Gawd couldn't possibly
interfere with that, now could he?

Actually, I think that only the mentally deficient would even think of
such a thing.

Well you're certainly a model of mental deficiency, so in that sense you
at least have some personal experience through your own gross stupidity.
But you neither seem to have recognized the obvious humor, nor did you
appear to understand that the position you are attacking is indeed quite
similar to positions that well-known religious apologists of the past
have advocated.
In short, you have managed to make an ***** of yourself again, as usual,
with a single clumsy comment on your part. Congrats, you dumbfuck.

Quibbler, you have made jokes at the expense of 55,000 dead people, mostly
children. You have used this tragedy to make really stupid and venal
comments about what you assume theists will do, even as it is the private
organizations, mostly theist, who are sending the C-5's full of supplies
and
getting money together to send. NOT to proselytize. NOT to preach. Just to
help.

and now you are using this sort of language at someone who notices your bad
taste and calls you on it.

Quibbler, the problem with evil is that people like you talk about it,
blame
theists for it, and don't help alleviate it.

Please read his post again. While there are religious organizations
helping with the relief efforts, some fundies will take that disaster
and exploit it for their own purposes.

In article <q2pAd.9207$hc7.2637@trnddc06>,

"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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In article <laq3t0501tb6r4cv557vo8b60sqor8bmdm@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 13:35:30 -0700, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:

p.s. Theist idiots will probably also dust off some version of the
"Free
Will Defense". You know stopping earthquakes and tidal waves might
interfere with the free will of little children to be drowned in
their
sleep and end up in the belly of shark. Gawd couldn't possibly
interfere with that, now could he?

Actually, I think that only the mentally deficient would even think of
such a thing.

Well you're certainly a model of mental deficiency, so in that sense
you
at least have some personal experience through your own gross
stupidity.
But you neither seem to have recognized the obvious humor, nor did you
appear to understand that the position you are attacking is indeed
quite
similar to positions that well-known religious apologists of the past
have advocated.
In short, you have managed to make an ***** of yourself again, as usual,
with a single clumsy comment on your part. Congrats, you dumbfuck.

Quibbler, you have made jokes at the expense of 55,000 dead people,

Not true. My jokes were at the expense of religious apologists
attempting to minimize and explain away a very real tragedy.

Your
attempts to smear and misrepresent my position is not appreciated.

You're also defending a well-known internet kook named Duke who is only
interested in trolling his silly, inarticulate, holier-than-thou
catholic rhetoric through atheist news groups.

mostly
children. You have used this tragedy to make really stupid and venal
comments about what you assume theists will do

I cited the stupid though not necessarily venal comments that religious
apologists actually have made in the past.

, even as it is the private
organizations, mostly theist,

That means little.

Theists are in the majority in most places due to
the inertia of tradition and the various forms of blackmail practiced by
religious individuals. One could just as well observe that mainly white
and rich people were contributing aid, since many other poor people in
the third world don't have the resources or opportunity to do so. I can
tell you this. Humanistic principles and values, like those upon which
the UN was formed, and not religious values are what is called for here.

Nobody needs to invoke any particular god in order to send food or
medical aid to victims of natural disaster.

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 02:57:26 GMT, "DianaC" <dianaiad@vernoyoudontizon.net> wrote:

"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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In article <laq3t0501tb6r4cv557vo8b60sqor8bmdm@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 13:35:30 -0700, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:

p.s. Theist idiots will probably also dust off some version of the "Free
Will Defense". You know stopping earthquakes and tidal waves might
interfere with the free will of little children to be drowned in their
sleep and end up in the belly of shark. Gawd couldn't possibly
interfere with that, now could he?

Actually, I think that only the mentally deficient would even think of
such a thing.

Well you're certainly a model of mental deficiency, so in that sense you
at least have some personal experience through your own gross stupidity.
But you neither seem to have recognized the obvious humor, nor did you
appear to understand that the position you are attacking is indeed quite
similar to positions that well-known religious apologists of the past
have advocated.
In short, you have managed to make an ***** of yourself again, as usual,
with a single clumsy comment on your part. Congrats, you dumbfuck.

Quibbler, you have made jokes at the expense of 55,000 dead people, mostly
children. You have used this tragedy to make really stupid and venal
comments about what you assume theists will do, even as it is the private
organizations, mostly theist, who are sending the C-5's full of supplies and
getting money together to send. NOT to proselytize. NOT to preach. Just to
help.

and now you are using this sort of language at someone who notices your bad
taste and calls you on it.

Quibbler, the problem with evil is that people like you talk about it, blame
theists for it, and don't help alleviate it.

Very accurate and well stated, dc.

"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 17:51:51 -0700, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>

wrote:

In article <laq3t0501tb6r4cv557vo8b60sqor8bmdm@4ax.com>,
duckgumbo32@cox.net says...

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 13:35:30 -0700, quibbler
<quibbler247@yahoo.com>

wrote:

Well you're certainly a model of mental deficiency, so in that sense
you at least have some personal experience through your own gross
stupidity.

I was referring to you, quib. You are totally void of any knowledge
of

God, so I expect

these ignorant tirades from you. When one is as mentally deficient
of the

subject matter

as you are, I must forgive and forget your shortcomings before I
correct

you.

Not wishing to come to the defence of quibbler, who is more than
capable of doing that himself, but how can an atheist have any
knowledge of God, except as a myth? Frankly I'm working on believing
in 'The Force'. I am currently looking for a Jedi training college
approved by Yoda.