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Date: 01 Apr 2004 06:34:27 PM
Object: Economists Contradict Kerry's Badmouthing - Economists Optimistic, but Kerry Keeps Attacking Bush's Policies!!
Economists Contradict Kerry's Badmouthing - Economists Optimistic, but
Kerry Keeps Attacking Bush's Policies!!
Economists Contradict Kerry's Badmouthing
The president is "a giant corporation residing in the White House
camouflaging as a human being," Ralph Nader claims. Meanwhile, experts
aren't buying Sen. John Kerry's efforts to talk down the economic
expansion.
Economists Optimistic, but Kerry Keeps Attacking Bush's Policies
Susan Jones, CNSNews.com
Monday, March 29, 2004
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/3/29/152421.shtml
As Democrat John Kerry rails against President Bush's "failed policies
on the economy," 56 economists surveyed by USA Today offered an
optimistic outlook on the U.S. economy. In fact, one of the economists
called this a "booming economy." According to the report Monday in USA
Today, employers are expected to "add jobs steadily as the economy
continues to expand."
The 56 economists surveyed by the newspaper predicted that businesses
and consumers would continue to spend more money as the jobless rate
falls. They expect inflation and interest rates to remain low.
USA Today noted that the rosy predictions come as jobs "take center
stage in the presidential election."
On Monday, Sen. John Kerry was campaigning in California, where he
planned to blast what he called President Bush's "failed policies."
According to a press release issued by Kerry's campaign, "John Kerry
will spend Cesar Chavez Day, Monday, in California talking about his
plan to create 10 million new jobs during his first term in office and
get the economy back on track."
But USA Today's survey indicates the economy is getting back on track
right now, under President Bush.
Hiring Boost Expected
"Business looks really very, very good," USA Today quoted Decision
Economics President Allen Sinai as saying. Sinai told the newspaper
that rising corporate profits would prompt more companies to hire more
workers in the weeks ahead.
"In the survey conducted March 19-24, 31% of the economists said they
expect hiring to begin in earnest in the second quarter," USA Today
reported. "More than half expected considerable gains in the second
half."
Kerry has pounced on President Bush for costing Americans their jobs.
On Saturday, after President Bush in his weekly radio address
discussed good news about rising home ownership, Kerry's campaign put
out the following rebuttal: "Nearly three million Americans have lost
their jobs since George Bush took office and the President's response
is to give himself a pat on the back."
In his radio address, President Bush said the economy was growing,
which is helping more Americans afford new homes. "Incomes are
rising," Bush said. "The unemployment rate is falling. Mortgage rates
are low. And because of tax relief, Americans have more to save, spend
and invest - and that means millions of American families have moved
into their first homes."
But in his response to Bush's radio address, Kerry said, "American
jobs are being shipped overseas, health care costs are overwhelming
working families, and George Bush still doesn't get it."
Kerry promised that "change is coming. When I'm President, we'll
pursue a bold new economic plan to jumpstart job creation, renew
American competitiveness, balance the budget, and create 10 million
new jobs in the next four years."
On Monday and Tuesday, Kerry was bringing his "10 million new jobs"
theme to California.
He planned to host a town hall meeting with students at a job training
facility in Sacramento on Monday. According to a press release from
the campaign, Kerry "will hear firsthand from students about the real
impact of Bush's policies - increased unemployment, more manufacturing
jobs lost, rising health care costs, skyrocketing gas prices and
decreased support for education - and talk about his plans to get the
economy back on track."
On Tuesday, at a rally at the University of California, San Diego,
Kerry planned to talk about "the economic impact of rising gas prices
and the effect on consumers and families," his campaign said.
Copyright CNSNews.com
.

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Title: Re: Economists Contradict Kerry's Badmouthing - Economists Optimistic, but Kerry Keeps Attacking Bush's Policies!! 23 Apr 2004 02:19:35 PM
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Title: Re: Economists Contradict Kerry's Badmouthing - Economists Optimistic, but Kerry Keeps Attacking Bush's Policies!! 03 Apr 2004 12:31:18 PM
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Susan Jones, CNSNews.com
Monday, March 29, 2004
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/3/29/152421.shtml

As Democrat John Kerry rails against President Bush's "failed policies
on the economy," 56 economists surveyed by USA Today offered an
optimistic outlook on the U.S. economy. In fact, one of the economists
called this a "booming economy." According to the report Monday in USA
Today, employers are expected to "add jobs steadily as the economy
continues to expand."

The 56 economists surveyed by the newspaper predicted that businesses
and consumers would continue to spend more money as the jobless rate
falls. They expect inflation and interest rates to remain low.

[...]
They've been declaring this for two years now.
It's "the boy who cried sheep".
http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=140-04022004
The Labor Department announced today that the nation added 308,000
payroll jobs in March. The report marks the first month of substantial
job growth in a previously weak labor market. On closer inspection,
however, the good news is much more mixed than it may first appear.
-- Americans are working less, not more, due to shorter average work
weeks. The rise in the number of payroll jobs was more than canceled
out by a decline in the number of hours worked in the average payroll
job (from 33.8 to 33.7 hours per week). The total number of hours
worked by all Americans in payroll jobs declined in March, the Labor
Department said.
-- The gain of 308,000 payroll jobs, while welcome, was canceled out
by equally large losses in self-employment. Although the payroll
figures leave out the self-employed, other data in the Labor
Department report show that the number of self- employed Americans
dropped by 304,000 in March. (Those figures, from a survey of
households, show that the overall number of employed Americans was
essentially unchanged in March. Like the payroll data, the household
survey found that employment other than self-employment rose by about
300,000.) The shift from self-employment to payroll jobs may, in most
cases, represent an advance toward more desirable employment, but it
is not the pure employment gain it may initially seem.
-- The percentage of Americans at work is the lowest for any March in
ten years. Over the past 12 months, gains in employment have not been
sufficient to keep pace with normal population growth. The percentage
of adults working in March -- 61.9 percent -- is the lowest for any
March since 1994. (This figure is not seasonally adjusted.)
-- Long-term unemployment also rose in March. The Labor Department
data show that the number of long-term unemployed - those who have
been out of work for more than 26 weeks and are still looking for a
job -- rose by 117,000 in March. The data also show that the
proportion of the unemployed who are long-term unemployed individuals
climbed from 22.9 percent in February to 23.9 percent in March.
.

User: "wbarwell"

Title: Re: Economists Contradict Kerry's Badmouthing - Economists Optimistic, but Kerry Keeps Attacking Bush's Policies!! 01 Apr 2004 06:23:03 PM
Liberals Are Losers wrote:

Economists Contradict Kerry's Badmouthing - Economists Optimistic, but
Kerry Keeps Attacking Bush's Policies!!


Www.cbo.gov Congressional Budget Office.
Bush's morob plans have created 60% of teh $500 billion deficit facing us
this year.
We started Bush's adminstration $5 trillioj in debt and now
it is $7 trillion in debt in three short years.
Bush's plans will double that to $14 billion in 10 years.
In ten years, interest on teh Bush deficits laden national debt alone will
cost more than discretionary military and domestic spending combined.
Bush stands for the imminent destruction of the USA.
Ignore all except the Congressional Budget Office examination
of what the future holds in its official report issued two mondays ago.
Www.cbo.gov.
If you want America destroyed utterly, vote Bush.
If you want future high taxes, Bush is your man.
Www.cbo.gov.
A vote for Bush or any GOP Senator or Congressman is a vote for America's
future bankruptcy and destruction.
$14 trillion debt = $46,666 debt per American, $186,664 for a family of
four.
What could you do with $186,664?
How are you and your family going to afford to pay of $186,664
to pay off your part of the Bush debt?
Bush tax cut? You mean future massive Bush/GOP tax raises.
If in ten years, interest rates are 5%, which is probably low, considering,
each year, a family of four will have to pay $$9,333 interest on their part
of the national debt.
What could you do with $9,333?
$14 trillioon debt in 10 years.
300 million Americans.
You do the math.
Www.cbo.gov
Then google around for what real economists are saying about Bush's
disastrous ideas.
A vote for any Republican is a vote for America's eventual bankruptcy, we
will become like Argentina, a smoking shell.
The GOP is like the USSR's old communist party, stupid, incompetent
and sure destruction of an entire nation over time.
Www.cbo.gov.
Read, weep, vote Anybody but Bush, anybody but the GOP.
Www.cbo.gov.
WAKE UP!

Economists Contradict Kerry's Badmouthing

The president is "a giant corporation residing in the White House
camouflaging as a human being," Ralph Nader claims. Meanwhile, experts
aren't buying Sen. John Kerry's efforts to talk down the economic
expansion.

Economists Optimistic, but Kerry Keeps Attacking Bush's Policies

Susan Jones, CNSNews.com
Monday, March 29, 2004
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2004/3/29/152421.shtml

As Democrat John Kerry rails against President Bush's "failed policies
on the economy," 56 economists surveyed by USA Today offered an
optimistic outlook on the U.S. economy. In fact, one of the economists
called this a "booming economy." According to the report Monday in USA
Today, employers are expected to "add jobs steadily as the economy
continues to expand."

The 56 economists surveyed by the newspaper predicted that businesses
and consumers would continue to spend more money as the jobless rate
falls. They expect inflation and interest rates to remain low.

USA Today noted that the rosy predictions come as jobs "take center
stage in the presidential election."

On Monday, Sen. John Kerry was campaigning in California, where he
planned to blast what he called President Bush's "failed policies."

According to a press release issued by Kerry's campaign, "John Kerry
will spend Cesar Chavez Day, Monday, in California talking about his
plan to create 10 million new jobs during his first term in office and
get the economy back on track."

But USA Today's survey indicates the economy is getting back on track
right now, under President Bush.

Hiring Boost Expected

"Business looks really very, very good," USA Today quoted Decision
Economics President Allen Sinai as saying. Sinai told the newspaper
that rising corporate profits would prompt more companies to hire more
workers in the weeks ahead.

"In the survey conducted March 19-24, 31% of the economists said they
expect hiring to begin in earnest in the second quarter," USA Today
reported. "More than half expected considerable gains in the second
half."

Kerry has pounced on President Bush for costing Americans their jobs.
On Saturday, after President Bush in his weekly radio address
discussed good news about rising home ownership, Kerry's campaign put
out the following rebuttal: "Nearly three million Americans have lost
their jobs since George Bush took office and the President's response
is to give himself a pat on the back."

In his radio address, President Bush said the economy was growing,
which is helping more Americans afford new homes. "Incomes are
rising," Bush said. "The unemployment rate is falling. Mortgage rates
are low. And because of tax relief, Americans have more to save, spend
and invest - and that means millions of American families have moved
into their first homes."

But in his response to Bush's radio address, Kerry said, "American
jobs are being shipped overseas, health care costs are overwhelming
working families, and George Bush still doesn't get it."

Kerry promised that "change is coming. When I'm President, we'll
pursue a bold new economic plan to jumpstart job creation, renew
American competitiveness, balance the budget, and create 10 million
new jobs in the next four years."

On Monday and Tuesday, Kerry was bringing his "10 million new jobs"
theme to California.

He planned to host a town hall meeting with students at a job training
facility in Sacramento on Monday. According to a press release from
the campaign, Kerry "will hear firsthand from students about the real
impact of Bush's policies - increased unemployment, more manufacturing
jobs lost, rising health care costs, skyrocketing gas prices and
decreased support for education - and talk about his plans to get the
economy back on track."

On Tuesday, at a rally at the University of California, San Diego,
Kerry planned to talk about "the economic impact of rising gas prices
and the effect on consumers and families," his campaign said.

Copyright CNSNews.com

--
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun
in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to
Canada. So I chose to better myself and learn to fly airplanes."
- George W. Bush May 1984 to the Houston Chronicle
Cheerful Charlie
.
User: "Billy Bartey"

Title: Re: Economists Contradict Kerry's Badmouthing - Economists Optimistic, but Kerry Keeps Attacking Bush's Policies!! 02 Apr 2004 12:48:52 AM
"wbarwell" <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:406cc9bc$0$17097$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com...

Liberals Are Losers wrote:

Economists Contradict Kerry's Badmouthing - Economists Optimistic, but
Kerry Keeps Attacking Bush's Policies!!




Www.cbo.gov Congressional Budget Office.

LOL. Get over yourself, leftist stooge. The economy is doing great. Go
out and get a job.
L&P
--WIaT
.
User: "Yang AthD \h.c.\ eacmole@AWOLGWBmail,com"

Title: Re: Economists Contradict Kerry's Badmouthing - Economists Optimistic, but Kerry Keeps Attacking Bush's Policies!! 02 Apr 2004 05:19:20 AM
"Billy Bartey" <disch@arge.com> wrote in message
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"wbarwell" <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
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Liberals Are Losers wrote:

Economists Contradict Kerry's Badmouthing - Economists Optimistic, but
Kerry Keeps Attacking Bush's Policies!!




Www.cbo.gov Congressional Budget Office.


LOL. Get over yourself, leftist stooge. The economy is doing great. Go
out and get a job.

Tell me what you do, I know a guy in China who can do your job twice as well
for half as much. You're probably better off cleaning the toilets at
McDonald's anyway.
--
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -598 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
.
User: "Billy Bartey"

Title: Re: Economists Contradict Kerry's Badmouthing - Economists Optimistic, but Kerry Keeps Attacking Bush's Policies!! 02 Apr 2004 09:25:53 AM
"Liberals Are Losers" wrote:

Economists Contradict Kerry's Badmouthing - Economists Optimistic,

but

Kerry Keeps Attacking Bush's Policies!!

"wbarwell" wrote:

Www.cbo.gov Congressional Budget Office.

"Billy Bartey" wrote:

LOL. Get over yourself, leftist stooge. The economy is doing great.

Go

out and get a job.

"Yang AthD (h.c.)" wrote:

Tell me what you do, I know a guy in China who can do your job twice as

well

for half as much. You're probably better off cleaning the toilets at
McDonald's anyway.

That's sort of interesting. I manage a group of programmers in Shanghei who
develop voice-over-ip sytem device drivers for a large US-based
telecommunications company. And yes, we do pay them significantly less than
our American counterparts. What is even more interesting, from a diplomatic
point of view, is that our hardware is manufactured in Taipei. It can take
a week to get consular approval from all sides for a simple videoconference.
However, our overall production costs are relatively inexpensive, which
improves our profit margin, allowing us to increase our R&D and management
staff in the United States, who are paid quite handsomely, thank you very
much.
LOL.
L&P
--WIaT
.
User: "Yang, AthD \h.c."

Title: Re: Economists Contradict Kerry's Badmouthing - Economists Optimistic, but Kerry Keeps Attacking Bush's Policies!! 04 Apr 2004 03:06:22 AM
"Billy Bartey" <disch@arge.com> wrote in message
news:5Cfbc.31547$R41.63@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...

That's sort of interesting. I manage a group of programmers in Shanghei

who

develop voice-over-ip sytem device drivers for a large US-based
telecommunications company.

And the Chinese kids who got their MBA's from Harvard and MIS's from
Stanford can never start up a company and undercut your prices. Why don't
give me your SVPs contact info and let's see how far we can carry this out?
--
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Socerey Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: -3 million jobs and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -602 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
.
User: "Billy Bartey"

Title: Re: Economists Contradict Kerry's Badmouthing - Economists Optimistic, but Kerry Keeps Attacking Bush's Policies!! 04 Apr 2004 03:38:57 PM
"Yang, AthD (h.c.)" <eacmole@AWOLBushmail.com> wrote in message
news:bqKdnY2cfNNmXPLdRVn-sw@comcast.com...


"Billy Bartey" <disch@arge.com> wrote in message
news:5Cfbc.31547$R41.63@newssvr29.news.prodigy.com...

That's sort of interesting. I manage a group of programmers in Shanghei

who

develop voice-over-ip sytem device drivers for a large US-based
telecommunications company.


And the Chinese kids who got their MBA's from Harvard and MIS's from
Stanford can never start up a company and undercut your prices. Why don't
give me your SVPs contact info and let's see how far we can carry this

out?
You're an idiot. Give me the names of these Chinese kids with their degrees
from Harvard and Stanford and I'll put them at the top of the list for
interviews.
Undercut our prices? What, we're supposed to sell products at inflated
prices just so some start-up can be more competitive? Where do you think
our company started? Was it created in a single day with hundreds of
thousand of employees and revenues in the billions? You leftist-socialist
anti-capitalists don't get it. Never will.
LOL.
L&P
--WIaT
.




User: "wbarwell"

Title: Re: Economists Contradict Kerry's Badmouthing - Economists Optimistic, but Kerry Keeps Attacking Bush's Policies!! 02 Apr 2004 07:10:48 PM
Billy Bartey wrote:


"wbarwell" <wbarwell@munnnged.mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:406cc9bc$0$17097$811e409b@news.mylinuxisp.com...

Liberals Are Losers wrote:

Economists Contradict Kerry's Badmouthing - Economists Optimistic, but
Kerry Keeps Attacking Bush's Policies!!




Www.cbo.gov Congressional Budget Office.


LOL. Get over yourself, leftist stooge. The economy is doing great. Go
out and get a job.

My, what an infantile little man you are.
Th eeconomy is not the problem and it is still weak at that.
What the problem is, is Bush's stupid 'plan' that has saddled us with $500
billion deficits. And read that www.cbo.gov report. Despie more lies
(always lies!) from Bush that his tax cuts have nothing to do with the
deficits, the CBO shows us that 60% of this $500 billion deficits is
directly caused by Bush policies.
Now, you get to pay that off in the future, making that:
A - A tax cut.
B - A future tax raise.
The correct answer is B.
You like taxes I assume.
Bush is loading your plate with them.
Note the www.cbo.gov report. In ten years we will have doubled our
national debt, discretionry spending of military and domestic spending
will equal interest alone on the massive Bush debt.
Ranting and raving about me not having a job ( truely stupid non-argument)
does not make the future massive Bush debts go away.
Only massive amounts of tax dollars from stupid citizens who vote for Bush
and the GOP will make these debts and the resulting massive interest rates
go away if you morons re-elect AWOL again.
Anybody actually going to www.cbo.gov and making effort to understand how
Bush is screwing us now with the avid help of the GOP House and Senate will
then know, you are a moron.
And we are being screwed, bad.
In ten years, we will have a deficit of $14 trillion more or less if
Bush is re-elected and gets his way. We will have 300 million Americans.
Do the math.
$7 trillion, the present day national debt, $2 trillion of which Bush added
to the total in only three years, is $23,333 per American.
The $2trillion Bush and the GOP House and Senate added to this is
since 2000 is $6,666.
You get to pay that back. Is that $6,666 debt Bush and the GOP saddled
you with in the last three years more than the $600 check you got?
If Bush is re-elected and gets his way and adds another $23,333 to your
indebtedness, which is about $2,333 a year, are you getting $2,333 tax cuts
that balance it? And when they start taking $$$ out of your paycheck as
taxes to pay the burgeoning interest on $14 trillion debt in a decade,
are you going to rant and rave that people who complain need to get jobs?
Www.cbo.gov.
Smart people need to check it out and think, "How long can America go on
like this til it hits the end of its chain, hard?"
Obviously, you are not smart.
You are a little man of small intellect who thinks a truely stupid
retort makes these problems disappear. They don't disappear.
--
"I was not prepared to shoot my eardrum out with a shotgun
in order to get a deferment. Nor was I willing to go to
Canada. So I chose to better myself and learn to fly airplanes."
- George W. Bush May 1984 to the Houston Chronicle
Cheerful Charlie
.




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