Religions > Atheism > Ed Brown refused to pay illegal federal income taxes -- now his house is being surrounded by SWAT & tanks.
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07 Jun 2007 09:47:59 PM |
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Ed Brown refused to pay illegal federal income taxes -- now his house is being surrounded by SWAT & tanks. |
Welcome to the terrorist state called USA.
Read all about it, here: http://Muvy.org
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| User: "David Schwartz" |
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07 Jun 2007 10:50:55 PM |
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On Jun 7, 7:47 pm, wrote:
Welcome to the terrorist state called USA.
Read all about it, here:http://Muvy.org
I don't see anything about "illegal federal income taxes". Or is this
a lunatic tax protestor thing?
DS
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| User: "XTS" |
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07 Jun 2007 11:35:35 PM |
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"David Schwartz" <davids@webmaster.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 7, 7:47 pm, wrote:
Welcome to the terrorist state called USA.
Read all about it, here:http://Muvy.org
I don't see anything about "illegal federal income taxes". Or is this
a lunatic tax protestor thing?
DS
That's exactly what it is.
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| User: "Mysterion" |
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08 Jun 2007 09:35:22 AM |
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"XTS" <xts@woh.rr.com> wrote in message
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"David Schwartz" <davids@webmaster.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 7, 7:47 pm, wrote:
Welcome to the terrorist state called USA.
Read all about it, here:http://Muvy.org
I don't see anything about "illegal federal income taxes". Or is this
a lunatic tax protestor thing?
DS
That's exactly what it is.
So we should all be good little slaves and pay the extortion money to the
ganster government!
Maybe you should put a "I love being a slave" bumper sticker on your car,
little shiteater.
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| User: "Bret Cahill" |
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| Title: Re: Ed Brown refused to pay illegal federal income taxes -- now his house is being surrounded by SWAT & tanks. |
08 Jun 2007 01:59:21 PM |
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I don't see anyone holding a gun to anyone's head forcing him to live
in the collectively acquired collectively defended territory of the
United States and pay taxes.
Anyone can "taxpatriate" himself to low tax Somalia anytime.
Why not call 1-800-FLY-4-LESS and book the next one way flight to
Mogadishu?
Bret Cahill
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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08 Jun 2007 05:06:51 PM |
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On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 11:59:21 -0700 there was an Ancient Bret Cahill
<BretCahill@aol.com> who stoppeth one in alt.atheism
I don't see anyone holding a gun to anyone's head forcing him to live
in the collectively acquired collectively defended territory of the
United States and pay taxes.
Anyone can "taxpatriate" himself to low tax Somalia anytime.
Actually, Somalia has an almost-functioning government. No, what
these guys want is Darfur!
No functional government, so no taxes!
No police and no court system, no oppression by "The Man"
No functioning economy, so no taxes!
Of course, the region is ravaged by civil war and roving death squads,
but hey.. no taxes!
--
Douglas Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2011
"The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the
source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a
stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as
good as dead: his eyes are closed." - Albert Einstein
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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08 Jun 2007 12:56:50 PM |
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Mysterion wrote:
So we should all be good little slaves and pay the extortion money to
the ganster government!
Maybe you should put a "I love being a slave" bumper sticker on your
car, little shiteater.
And leave it on your driveway since the taxes paid for the roads and taught
you to write, if not think.
But I'd guess you don't really owe that much in taxes in any event.
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| User: "Mysterion" |
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08 Jun 2007 01:18:17 PM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Mysterion wrote:
So we should all be good little slaves and pay the extortion money to
the ganster government!
Maybe you should put a "I love being a slave" bumper sticker on your
car, little shiteater.
And leave it on your driveway since the taxes paid for the roads and
taught you to write, if not think.
Good slave!
You hit 2 of the prime talking points in one sentence!
But I'd guess you don't really owe that much in taxes in any event.
Oooh, a little class dig!
Yawn.
You scum are so predictable.
Next will come an inference as to my education or dental work.
Then an accusation of being an AlQueda supporter or "liberal".
Or even <gasp> an anarchist!
Seriously, though, isn't there an "official" ***** somewhere you should be
kissing right now?
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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08 Jun 2007 07:57:52 PM |
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Mysterion wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:CLgai.13118$2v1.10502@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
Mysterion wrote:
So we should all be good little slaves and pay the extortion money
to the ganster government!
Maybe you should put a "I love being a slave" bumper sticker on your
car, little shiteater.
And leave it on your driveway since the taxes paid for the roads and
taught you to write, if not think.
Good slave!
You hit 2 of the prime talking points in one sentence!
But I'd guess you don't really owe that much in taxes in any event.
Oooh, a little class dig!
Yawn.
You scum are so predictable.
Next will come an inference as to my education or dental work.
Then an accusation of being an AlQueda supporter or "liberal".
Or even <gasp> an anarchist!
Seriously, though, isn't there an "official" ***** somewhere you should
be kissing right now?
So, do you pay taxes?
If not are you honest enough to declare them?
Parasite would be the term I apply and yes you do seem to lack an education.
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| User: "Mysterion" |
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| Title: Re: Ed Brown refused to pay illegal federal income taxes -- now his house is being surrounded by SWAT & tanks. |
08 Jun 2007 10:17:09 PM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Mysterion wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:CLgai.13118$2v1.10502@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
Mysterion wrote:
So we should all be good little slaves and pay the extortion money
to the ganster government!
Maybe you should put a "I love being a slave" bumper sticker on your
car, little shiteater.
And leave it on your driveway since the taxes paid for the roads and
taught you to write, if not think.
Good slave!
You hit 2 of the prime talking points in one sentence!
But I'd guess you don't really owe that much in taxes in any event.
Oooh, a little class dig!
Yawn.
You scum are so predictable.
Next will come an inference as to my education or dental work.
Then an accusation of being an AlQueda supporter or "liberal".
Or even <gasp> an anarchist!
Seriously, though, isn't there an "official" ***** somewhere you should
be kissing right now?
So, do you pay taxes?
As little as I can get away with.
Just like the Bushes and the Clintons.
If not are you honest enough to declare them?
Parasite would be the term I apply and yes you do seem to lack an
education.
And you seem to lack a spine, balls and the capacity for independent
thought.
You're a cringing little cur who licks the boot that kicks it and you're too
damned stupid and too well conditioned to see that.
Now go drop dead, little slave.
You aren't worth wasting any more of my time on.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Ed Brown refused to pay illegal federal income taxes -- now his house is being surrounded by SWAT & tanks. |
08 Jun 2007 11:53:26 PM |
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Mysterion wrote:
So, do you pay taxes?
As little as I can get away with.
Just like the Bushes and the Clintons.
In other words you do exactly as we do but claim you don't have to.
I do what I think is right. You do what you don't think is right.
Who is the slave?
Who is the "cringing little cur who licks the boot that kicks it "?
If not are you honest enough to declare them?
Parasite would be the term I apply and yes you do seem to lack an
education.
And you seem to lack a spine, balls and the capacity for independent
thought.
You're a cringing little cur who licks the boot that kicks it and
you're too damned stupid and too well conditioned to see that.
Now go drop dead, little slave.
You aren't worth wasting any more of my time on.
My, my what words. I guess yelling and screaming works better than rational
thought and obeying the law.
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| User: "alohacyberian" |
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09 Jun 2007 04:19:15 PM |
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On Jun 9, 7:57 am, "Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Mysterion wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:CLgai.13118$2v1.10502@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
Mysterion wrote:
So we should all be good little slaves and pay the extortion money
to the ganster government!
Maybe you should put a "I love being a slave" bumper sticker on your
car, little shiteater.
And leave it on your driveway since the taxes paid for the roads and
taught you to write, if not think.
Good slave!
You hit 2 of the prime talking points in one sentence!
But I'd guess you don't really owe that much in taxes in any event.
Oooh, a little class dig!
Yawn.
You scum are so predictable.
Next will come an inference as to my education or dental work.
Then an accusation of being an AlQueda supporter or "liberal".
Or even <gasp> an anarchist!
Seriously, though, isn't there an "official" ***** somewhere you should
be kissing right now?
So, do you pay taxes?
If not are you honest enough to declare them?
Parasite would be the term I apply and yes you do seem to lack an education.- Hide quoted text -
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I would call you a host. Equally disgusting. Unless tax dollars are
put to good use, not the enrichment of a few plutocrats.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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09 Jun 2007 11:10:41 PM |
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alohacyberian wrote:
On Jun 9, 7:57 am, "Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Mysterion wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:CLgai.13118$2v1.10502@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
Mysterion wrote:
So we should all be good little slaves and pay the extortion money
to the ganster government!
Maybe you should put a "I love being a slave" bumper sticker on
your car, little shiteater.
And leave it on your driveway since the taxes paid for the roads
and taught you to write, if not think.
Good slave!
You hit 2 of the prime talking points in one sentence!
But I'd guess you don't really owe that much in taxes in any event.
Oooh, a little class dig!
Yawn.
You scum are so predictable.
Next will come an inference as to my education or dental work.
Then an accusation of being an AlQueda supporter or "liberal".
Or even <gasp> an anarchist!
Seriously, though, isn't there an "official" ***** somewhere you
should be kissing right now?
So, do you pay taxes?
If not are you honest enough to declare them?
Parasite would be the term I apply and yes you do seem to lack an
education.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I would call you a host. Equally disgusting. Unless tax dollars are
put to good use, not the enrichment of a few plutocrats.
Then you clearly don't understand the concept of a parasite and may not be
aware of the number of them on your body right now.
Roads, medicine, police, fire, schools, research funding. You can't stop
enriching a few people but most taxes do go for good use.
But are you now in favor od paying "good" taxes and not "bad" taxes?
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| User: "alohacyberian" |
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| Title: Re: Ed Brown refused to pay illegal federal income taxes -- now his house is being surrounded by SWAT & tanks. |
10 Jun 2007 07:38:19 AM |
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On Jun 10, 11:10 am, "Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
alohacyberian wrote:
On Jun 9, 7:57 am, "Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Mysterion wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:CLgai.13118$2v1.10502@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
Mysterion wrote:
So we should all be good little slaves and pay the extortion money
to the ganster government!
Maybe you should put a "I love being a slave" bumper sticker on
your car, little shiteater.
And leave it on your driveway since the taxes paid for the roads
and taught you to write, if not think.
Good slave!
You hit 2 of the prime talking points in one sentence!
But I'd guess you don't really owe that much in taxes in any event.
Oooh, a little class dig!
Yawn.
You scum are so predictable.
Next will come an inference as to my education or dental work.
Then an accusation of being an AlQueda supporter or "liberal".
Or even <gasp> an anarchist!
Seriously, though, isn't there an "official" ***** somewhere you
should be kissing right now?
So, do you pay taxes?
If not are you honest enough to declare them?
Parasite would be the term I apply and yes you do seem to lack an
education.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I would call you a host. Equally disgusting. Unless tax dollars are
put to good use, not the enrichment of a few plutocrats.
Then you clearly don't understand the concept of a parasite and may not be
aware of the number of them on your body right now.
Roads, medicine, police, fire, schools, research funding. You can't stop
enriching a few people but most taxes do go for good use.
But are you now in favor od paying "good" taxes and not "bad" taxes?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Police, fire, schools are not funded by the federal government. Go
back to school.
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| User: "Mysterion" |
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| Title: Re: Ed Brown refused to pay illegal federal income taxes -- now his house is being surrounded by SWAT & tanks. |
10 Jun 2007 08:48:13 AM |
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"alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 10, 11:10 am, "Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
alohacyberian wrote:
On Jun 9, 7:57 am, "Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Mysterion wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:CLgai.13118$2v1.10502@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
Mysterion wrote:
So we should all be good little slaves and pay the extortion money
to the ganster government!
Maybe you should put a "I love being a slave" bumper sticker on
your car, little shiteater.
And leave it on your driveway since the taxes paid for the roads
and taught you to write, if not think.
Good slave!
You hit 2 of the prime talking points in one sentence!
But I'd guess you don't really owe that much in taxes in any event.
Oooh, a little class dig!
Yawn.
You scum are so predictable.
Next will come an inference as to my education or dental work.
Then an accusation of being an AlQueda supporter or "liberal".
Or even <gasp> an anarchist!
Seriously, though, isn't there an "official" ***** somewhere you
should be kissing right now?
So, do you pay taxes?
If not are you honest enough to declare them?
Parasite would be the term I apply and yes you do seem to lack an
education.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I would call you a host. Equally disgusting. Unless tax dollars are
put to good use, not the enrichment of a few plutocrats.
Then you clearly don't understand the concept of a parasite and may not
be
aware of the number of them on your body right now.
Roads, medicine, police, fire, schools, research funding. You can't stop
enriching a few people but most taxes do go for good use.
But are you now in favor od paying "good" taxes and not "bad" taxes?-
Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Police, fire, schools are not funded by the federal government. Go
back to school.
Its a waste of time trying to explain to a slave that his chains aren't
jewelry.
This dog actually believes that there'd be no roads, medicine or research
without the state.
He's either a hopelessly brainwashed idiot or a member of the gang.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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10 Jun 2007 05:51:23 PM |
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Mysterion wrote:
Police, fire, schools are not funded by the federal government. Go
back to school.
Its a waste of time trying to explain to a slave that his chains
aren't jewelry.
This dog actually believes that there'd be no roads, medicine or
research without the state.
He's either a hopelessly brainwashed idiot or a member of the gang.
Unable to actually find out if the statement is true Misery just spouts
garbage.
There have always been roads. They just were not very good until the federal
government funded and mandated them. But you'd have to read some history to
know that.
There has always been medicine but until the federal government set
standards you had no idea of what a doctor knew or didn't know.
The term "practice" comes from the times they learned by doing. But you'd
have to read some history to know that.
As for research, well you'd have to read some history.
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| User: "Frank Gilliland" |
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10 Jun 2007 10:57:21 PM |
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:51:23 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
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There have always been roads. They just were not very good until the federal
government funded and mandated them. But you'd have to read some history to
know that.
I'm pretty sure roads have been around for quite a while. Centuries,
in fact; probably millenium. Some good, some not so good, regardless
of whether they were government funded or not.
There has always been medicine but until the federal government set
standards you had no idea of what a doctor knew or didn't know.
We still don't, and that's -with- government "standards".
The term "practice" comes from the times they learned by doing. But you'd
have to read some history to know that.
You're making this stuff up as you go along, aren't you?
As for research, well you'd have to read some history.
Yeah, we would all be cold and wet if the federal government hadn't
funded the development of fire. And the wheel.... whew, thank goodness
the feds straightened us out before we adopted that square doohickey.
To think that without the help of the government of Spain, Columbus
would never have made it to these shores before the Vikings.... er, I
meant the American Indians.... oops. Well, at least the vast majority
of inventions and innovations that made this country great was funded
by.... well, private individuals. Ok, modern medicine is sure to show
the benefits of government research funding, like penicillin... oops,
he was Scottish; the use of insulin to treat diabetes... wait, that
was in Canada; pasteurization.... French. Ok, let's forget medicine.
How about rockets? Yep, kudos to those wonderful German scientists
that applied Nazi research to the US space program.... bad idea. So
how much money did the government provide to the Wright brothers
before 1903? None? Oh well.
Hey, how about that federally funded research project in the '70s that
investigated why chimps clench their teeth? Yep, you sure scored big
on that one!!!
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Ed Brown refused to pay illegal federal income taxes -- now his house is being surrounded by SWAT & tanks. |
11 Jun 2007 02:36:22 PM |
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:51:23 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
<Lf%ai.32695$Um6.30800@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net>:
<snip>
There have always been roads. They just were not very good until the
federal government funded and mandated them. But you'd have to read
some history to know that.
I'm pretty sure roads have been around for quite a while. Centuries,
in fact; probably millenium. Some good, some not so good, regardless
of whether they were government funded or not.
The good ones still exist, tehy were built by the Roman government.
But again you'd have to read history to know the state of roads in the US
before government intervention.
There has always been medicine but until the federal government set
standards you had no idea of what a doctor knew or didn't know.
We still don't, and that's -with- government "standards".
Hopefully that's an attempt at humor.
The term "practice" comes from the times they learned by doing. But
you'd have to read some history to know that.
You're making this stuff up as you go along, aren't you?
As I said, you'll have to read books.
As for research, well you'd have to read some history.
Yeah, we would all be cold and wet if the federal government hadn't
funded the development of fire. And the wheel....
How about rockets? Yep, kudos to those wonderful German scientists
that applied Nazi research to the US space program.... bad idea.
And that development was supported and paid for by the government of
Germany.
None. How much has been invested by governments since?
Speaking of Rockets, NASA developed products for the space program that
would never have come about if left to private industry.
But again that is documented in books and you will have to read before
learning of them.
You might howeveer note the rather rapid advance of technology during
wartime, supported and paid for by governments.
Hey, how about that federally funded research project in the '70s that
investigated why chimps clench their teeth? Yep, you sure scored big
on that one!!!
It's called research and there is never any certainty that it will pay off.
There was an engineering student at MIT who developed a neat algebra.
It was useless so they sent him to the math deepartment...
Seems it only used ones and zeros...
Try books. I know of something that was abandoned by the government in 1939
even with sound theory and a non working model that looked almost exactly
like the working one that came less tha ten years later.
You could use that for your next rant, just as you use the item itself
everyday.
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| User: "Frank Gilliland" |
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| Title: Re: Ed Brown refused to pay illegal federal income taxes -- now his house is being surrounded by SWAT & tanks. |
11 Jun 2007 08:28:38 PM |
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On Mon, 11 Jun 2007 12:36:22 -0700, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
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Frank Gilliland wrote:
On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 22:51:23 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
<Lf%ai.32695$Um6.30800@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net>:
<snip>
There have always been roads. They just were not very good until the
federal government funded and mandated them. But you'd have to read
some history to know that.
I'm pretty sure roads have been around for quite a while. Centuries,
in fact; probably millenium. Some good, some not so good, regardless
of whether they were government funded or not.
The good ones still exist, tehy were built by the Roman government.
But again you'd have to read history to know the state of roads in the US
before government intervention.
Maybe you're just talking about the interstate system. Because there
were many, many good roads build without the help of the federal
government. They were built by state and local governments,
communities, private businesses, private citizens, etc, etc.
There has always been medicine but until the federal government set
standards you had no idea of what a doctor knew or didn't know.
We still don't, and that's -with- government "standards".
Hopefully that's an attempt at humor.
Unfortunately, no, it wasn't. It takes some serious complaints for a
STATE government to pull a medical license. But until that happens,
there is no way to know how many times any specific doctor has
received complaints, been sued for malpractice, or even if he/she has
specialized training in a specialized field of practice (which often
isn't required). Federal law has prohibited any type of 'information
database' about medical practitioners. If you are looking for a good
doctor, the only sources of information you have available are rumors
and commercial advertising (which used to be illegal). That's the
federal government's version of 'medical standards'.
The term "practice" comes from the times they learned by doing. But
you'd have to read some history to know that.
You're making this stuff up as you go along, aren't you?
As I said, you'll have to read books.
Ok, let's start with the dictionary:
prac-tice [< Greek 'prassein', do] 1. to do or perform frequently;
make a habit of. 2. to do repeatedly so as to become proficient; as,
to 'practice' batting. 3. to work at, esp. as a profession; as, to
'practice' medicine......
[Webster's New World Dictionary, Compact Desk Ed.; 1963, The World
Publishing Company]
BTW, I earned my BAS several years ago and I'm finishing up my
Master's program this fall. So when you tell me that "you'll have to
read books", you're just preaching to the choir. Even so, I'll respond
with another cliche: "Practice what you preach."
As for research, well you'd have to read some history.
Yeah, we would all be cold and wet if the federal government hadn't
funded the development of fire. And the wheel....
How about rockets? Yep, kudos to those wonderful German scientists
that applied Nazi research to the US space program.... bad idea.
And that development was supported and paid for by the government of
Germany.
None. How much has been invested by governments since?
Speaking of Rockets, NASA developed products for the space program that
would never have come about if left to private industry.
Actually, almost all of that research is/was commercially funded. In
case you haven't been paying attention the past few decades, NASA has
become a commercial enterprise.
But again that is documented in books and you will have to read before
learning of them.
You might howeveer note the rather rapid advance of technology during
wartime, supported and paid for by governments.
Wartime breeds war technology. Battleships. Tanks. Nuclear, biological
and chemical weapons, all of which have proven so helpful in a
peacetime society. Why yes, the computer has advanced by leaps and
bounds as a direct result of the war against drugs.... er,
terrorism.... uh, the war against poverty? How about Grenada? Panama?
Lebanon? Oh yes, I forgot that the war in Iraq helped spur the
development of the Celeron processor....
Hey, how about that federally funded research project in the '70s that
investigated why chimps clench their teeth? Yep, you sure scored big
on that one!!!
It's called research and there is never any certainty that it will pay off.
LOL!
There was an engineering student at MIT who developed a neat algebra.
It was useless so they sent him to the math deepartment...
Seems it only used ones and zeros...
Oh come on, what do you take me for.... an idiot? You think some kid
at MIT came up with binary math? Yeah, and Al Gore invented the
Internet, huh?
Try books. I know of something that was abandoned by the government in 1939
even with sound theory and a non working model that looked almost exactly
like the working one that came less tha ten years later.
Did the prototype crash near Roswell?
You could use that for your next rant, just as you use the item itself
everyday.
Enlighten me, o' well-read one.
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10 Jun 2007 11:45:28 AM |
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Actually, the Federal government supplies a lot of money to police
departments, schools and fir departments all over the country. The Federal
Department of Education is one of the biggest bureaucracies in Government.
You have obviously forgotten about Clinton's "spend big bucks" to hire
100,000 policemen nation wide. Plus all the subsidies to cities, counties an
states as a result of 9/11.
It appears you are the one who needs to go back to school.
"alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1181479099.505091.278810@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Police, fire, schools are not funded by the federal government. Go
back to school.
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10 Jun 2007 01:18:42 PM |
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On Jun 10, 11:45 pm, "Paul Maffia" <pmaf...@centurytel.net> wrote:
Actually, the Federal government supplies a lot of money to police
departments, schools and fir departments all over the country. The Federal
Department of Education is one of the biggest bureaucracies in Government.
You have obviously forgotten about Clinton's "spend big bucks" to hire
100,000 policemen nation wide. Plus all the subsidies to cities, counties an
states as a result of 9/11.
It appears you are the one who needs to go back to school.
"alohacyberian" <alohacyber...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1181479099.505091.278810@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Police, fire, schools are not funded by the federal government. Go
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the fed should mind its own business. It has no place in local
politics or facilities.
It's we the people, baby, not your the idiots. Do the world a favor,
send your spawn to war. Hopefully the argument will end with the
demise of your genes,,,,leming.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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10 Jun 2007 06:00:18 PM |
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alohacyberian wrote:
On Jun 10, 11:45 pm, "Paul Maffia" <pmaf...@centurytel.net> wrote:
Actually, the Federal government supplies a lot of money to police
departments, schools and fir departments all over the country. The
Federal Department of Education is one of the biggest bureaucracies
in Government. You have obviously forgotten about Clinton's "spend
big bucks" to hire 100,000 policemen nation wide. Plus all the
subsidies to cities, counties an states as a result of 9/11.
It appears you are the one who needs to go back to school.
"alohacyberian" <alohacyber...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1181479099.505091.278810@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Police, fire, schools are not funded by the federal government. Go
back to school.- Hide quoted text -
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the fed should mind its own business. It has no place in local
politics or facilities.
It's we the people, baby, not your the idiots. Do the world a favor,
send your spawn to war. Hopefully the argument will end with the
demise of your genes,,,,leming.
Talk, talk, talk. It's easy to find places in the world where you have
essentially what you want.
Go live along the Baja coast for a while. You will probably not be bothered
by any of those things and you won't have to pay taxes.
I'd suggest you start at Rancho El Barril where I lived.
No taxes, dirt roads, no sewers, no electricity unless you bring your own,
no doctors, no nurses, no police. You may see the occasional game warden
(They carry cocked .45 on them) but they won't bother you much.
You can live off the sea unless the unregulated fishing has decimated the
area.
But you won't do that. You will sit safely here where you have an infra
structure provided by the government and cry about how independent you are
and how we who support you are sheep.
What have you done for those people lately?
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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10 Jun 2007 11:50:58 AM |
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 09:45:28 -0700, in alt.atheism
"Paul Maffia" <pmaffia@centurytel.net> wrote in
<3eydnb8B2bIgt_HbnZ2dnUVZ_qGjnZ2d@centurytel.net>:
Actually, the Federal government supplies a lot of money to police
departments, schools and fir departments all over the country. The Federal
Department of Education is one of the biggest bureaucracies in Government.
For many K-12 districts, the cost of federal mandates tends to be
greater than the money provided to pay for the mandates. If the Feds
actually paid for what they wanted, most school districts would be much
happier since many of the mandates are very good ideas, just expensive
ones that they don't have the money for.
You have obviously forgotten about Clinton's "spend big bucks" to hire
100,000 policemen nation wide. Plus all the subsidies to cities, counties an
states as a result of 9/11.
For some reason those funds end up being temporary.
It appears you are the one who needs to go back to school.
"alohacyberian" <alohacyberian@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1181479099.505091.278810@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
Police, fire, schools are not funded by the federal government. Go
back to school.
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10 Jun 2007 12:13:27 PM |
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"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 09:45:28 -0700, in alt.atheism
"Paul Maffia" <pmaffia@centurytel.net> wrote in
<3eydnb8B2bIgt_HbnZ2dnUVZ_qGjnZ2d@centurytel.net>:
Actually, the Federal government supplies a lot of money to police
departments, schools and fir departments all over the country. The Federal
Department of Education is one of the biggest bureaucracies in Government.
For many K-12 districts, the cost of federal mandates tends to be
greater than the money provided to pay for the mandates.
And how does that fact change the fact that the Federal Government pays out
a lot of money for schools, contary to the orgnal stateen that said Uncle
does not pay for any of it?
If the Feds
actually paid for what they wanted, most school districts would be much
happier since many of the mandates are very good ideas, just expensive
ones that they don't have the money for.
Demonstrating how little you know about it. School districts complain yet
they hire a lot of high priced talent whose only jobs are to insure that
flow of funds continues.
You have obviously forgotten about Clinton's "spend big bucks" to hire
100,000 policemen nation wide. Plus all the subsidies to cities, counties
an
states as a result of 9/11.
For some reason those funds end up being temporary.
They were supposed to be, but the program is still funded every year with
massive sums.
You give being stupid a bad name!
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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10 Jun 2007 12:55:19 PM |
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 10:13:27 -0700, in alt.atheism
"Paul Maffia" <pmaffia@centurytel.net> wrote in
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"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in message
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On Sun, 10 Jun 2007 09:45:28 -0700, in alt.atheism
"Paul Maffia" <pmaffia@centurytel.net> wrote in
<3eydnb8B2bIgt_HbnZ2dnUVZ_qGjnZ2d@centurytel.net>:
Actually, the Federal government supplies a lot of money to police
departments, schools and fir departments all over the country. The Federal
Department of Education is one of the biggest bureaucracies in Government.
For many K-12 districts, the cost of federal mandates tends to be
greater than the money provided to pay for the mandates.
And how does that fact change the fact that the Federal Government pays out
a lot of money for schools, contary to the orgnal stateen that said Uncle
does not pay for any of it?
Most of the Dept of Education's money goes to college funding. Only 8.3%
of all K-12 funding is federal. Most school districts would be happy to
forego the federal funding if they didn't have the federal mandates.
If the Feds
actually paid for what they wanted, most school districts would be much
happier since many of the mandates are very good ideas, just expensive
ones that they don't have the money for.
Demonstrating how little you know about it. School districts complain yet
they hire a lot of high priced talent whose only jobs are to insure that
flow of funds continues.
The mandates exist whether the funds are there or not. They have little
choice but to try to get all the grants they can.
You have obviously forgotten about Clinton's "spend big bucks" to hire
100,000 policemen nation wide. Plus all the subsidies to cities, counties
an
states as a result of 9/11.
For some reason those funds end up being temporary.
They were supposed to be, but the program is still funded every year with
massive sums.
Massive? Compared with what?
You give being stupid a bad name!
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| Title: Re: Ed Brown refused to pay illegal federal income taxes -- now his house is being surrounded by SWAT & tanks. |
10 Jun 2007 08:57:41 AM |
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On Jun 10, 7:38 am, alohacyberian <alohacyber...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jun 10, 11:10 am, "Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net>
wrote:
alohacyberian wrote:
On Jun 9, 7:57 am, "Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Mysterion wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpain...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:CLgai.13118$2v1.10502@newssvr14.news.prodigy.net...
Mysterion wrote:
So we should all be good little slaves and pay the extortion money
to the ganster government!
Maybe you should put a "I love being a slave" bumper sticker on
your car, little shiteater.
And leave it on your driveway since the taxes paid for the roads
and taught you to write, if not think.
Good slave!
You hit 2 of the prime talking points in one sentence!
But I'd guess you don't really owe that much in taxes in any event.
Oooh, a little class dig!
Yawn.
You scum are so predictable.
Next will come an inference as to my education or dental work.
Then an accusation of being an AlQueda supporter or "liberal".
Or even <gasp> an anarchist!
Seriously, though, isn't there an "official" ***** somewhere you
should be kissing right now?
So, do you pay taxes?
If not are you honest enough to declare them?
Parasite would be the term I apply and yes you do seem to lack an
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I would call you a host. Equally disgusting. Unless tax dollars are
put to good use, not the enrichment of a few plutocrats.
Then you clearly don't understand the concept of a parasite and may not be
aware of the number of them on your body right now.
Roads, medicine, police, fire, schools, research funding. You can't stop
enriching a few people but most taxes do go for good use.
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Police, fire, schools are not funded by the federal government. Go
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Yes, schools are paid for by federal funds. Local taxes pay part, but
federal dollars go into schools too. In fact, if schools do not meet
various federal standards (such as NCLB and IDEA) they can lose
funding and resources from the feds or even wind up being taken over
by the feds in order to meet those federal standards.
Don't kid yourself; the fedgov has it's hands in most things that we
think of as "local".
Police and fire departments apply for and get grants from the feds to
make up "shortfalls" in local taxes.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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10 Jun 2007 05:44:29 PM |
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alohacyberian wrote:
I would call you a host. Equally disgusting. Unless tax dollars
are put to good use, not the enrichment of a few plutocrats.
Then you clearly don't understand the concept of a parasite and may
not be
aware of the number of them on your body right now.
Roads, medicine, police, fire, schools, research funding. You can't
stop
enriching a few people but most taxes do go for good use.
But are you now in favor od paying "good" taxes and not "bad"
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Police, fire, schools are not funded by the federal government. Go
back to school.
First read what he said. " Unless tax dollars are put to good use". There
is no mention of federal funds.
However if you don't think the federal government funds a large part of
fire, police and schools, I'd suggest you call a school, call a police
department, or come to our fire district board meeting sometime.
My very small volunteer fire department absolutely recieves federal money as
do all other police and fire services in the country.
Since the need for NIMS, a formal structure around things we have been
talking about for years, has been put in place to support ICS, there is
considerably more federal money coming down.
9/11 finally made the government realize that police and fire departments do
not play well within the department and between them.
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08 Jun 2007 01:52:58 PM |
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On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 18:18:17 GMT, in alt.atheism , "Mysterion"
<mysterionNOSPAM@supernet.com> in
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Mysterion wrote:
So we should all be good little slaves and pay the extortion money to
the ganster government!
Maybe you should put a "I love being a slave" bumper sticker on your
car, little shiteater.
And leave it on your driveway since the taxes paid for the roads and
taught you to write, if not think.
Good slave!
You hit 2 of the prime talking points in one sentence!
But I'd guess you don't really owe that much in taxes in any event.
Oooh, a little class dig!
Yawn.
You scum are so predictable.
Next will come an inference as to my education
To late, you missed it.
or dental work.
Then an accusation of being an AlQueda supporter or "liberal".
Or even <gasp> an anarchist!
Seriously, though, isn't there an "official" ***** somewhere you should be
kissing right now?
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Matt Silberstein
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http://www.beawitness.org
http://www.darfurgenocide.org
http://www.savedarfur.org
"Darfur: A Genocide We can Stop"
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08 Jun 2007 11:40:31 PM |
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On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 17:56:50 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
And leave it on your driveway since the taxes paid for the roads and taught
you to write, if not think.
I pay at the pump. $0.36 cents of every gallon I buy is taxes.
I buy at minimum, 60 gallons of gas per week., 52 weeks a year
(odd how the gormless ***** about the oil companies $0.08 profit per
gallon eh?)
Know what the trucking industry pays per truck per year?
The $375 each year I pay in vehicle registrations are taxes
But I'd guess you don't really owe that much in taxes in any event.
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| User: "Terryc" |
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09 Jun 2007 04:40:31 AM |
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Gunner wrote:
I pay at the pump. $0.36 cents of every gallon I buy is taxes.
I buy at minimum, 60 gallons of gas per week., 52 weeks a year
(odd how the gormless ***** about the oil companies $0.08 profit per
gallon eh?)
Umm, how muc of that is a company/business expense?
Know what the trucking industry pays per truck per year?
Don't care either.
In this country they get enormous rebates direct from government anyway,
then it is a business expense.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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09 Jun 2007 01:07:13 PM |
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Gunner wrote:
On Fri, 08 Jun 2007 17:56:50 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
And leave it on your driveway since the taxes paid for the roads and
taught you to write, if not think.
I pay at the pump. $0.36 cents of every gallon I buy is taxes.
Which partially pays for repairs, not building.
I buy at minimum, 60 gallons of gas per week., 52 weeks a year
(odd how the gormless ***** about the oil companies $0.08 profit per
gallon eh?)
Know what the trucking industry pays per truck per year?
The $375 each year I pay in vehicle registrations are taxes
To pay for the damage you have done to the road. It dos not build new roads.
But I'd guess you don't really owe that much in taxes in any event.
I met a guy named Phillips on a beach in Baja a few years back and he
pointed out he and his friends rarely owed any taxes.
He wanted a house in Mexico to go with teh ones in England, Ireland,
Germany, Canada, and the USA. If the name sounds familar it's because
Phillips Industry has grown a bit since they invented the cassette tape.
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