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"Jason Spaceman" |
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08 Apr 2005 11:01:36 AM |
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Editorial: Twilight for the Enlightenment? |
From the article:
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Donald Kennedy
Editor-in-Chief
For much of their existence over the past two centuries, Europe and the United
States have been societies of questioners: nations in which skepticism has been
accepted and even welcomed, and where the culture has been characterized by
confidence in science and in rational methods of thought. We owe this tradition
in part to the birth of the Scottish Enlightenment of the early 18th century,
when the practice of executing religious heretics ended, to be gradually
replaced by a developing conviction that substituted faith in experiment for
reliance on inherited dogma.
That new tradition, prominently represented by the Scottish philosopher David
Hume, supplied important roots for the growth of modernity, and it has served
U.S. society well, as it has Europe's. The results of serious, careful
experimentation and analysis became a standard for the entry of a discovery or
theory into the common culture of citizens and the policies of their
governments. Thus, scientific determinations of the age of Earth and the
theories of gravity, biological evolution, and the conservation of matter and
energy became meaningful scientific anchors of our common understanding.
In the United States, that understanding is now undergoing some dissolution, as
some school boards eliminate the teaching of evolution or require that
religious versions of creation be represented as "scientific" alternatives.
"Intelligent design," a recent replacement for straight-up creationism,
essentially asserts that a sufficient quantity of complexity and beauty is by
itself evidence of divine origin--a retrogression to the pre-Darwinian
zoologist William Paley, who saw in the elegant construction of a beetle's
antenna the work of a Creator.
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Read it at http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/308/5719/165
(get a login ID at
http://www.bugmenot.com/view.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sciencemag.org )
J. Spaceman
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| User: "Ike" |
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| Title: Re: Editorial: Twilight for the Enlightenment? |
08 Apr 2005 02:34:18 PM |
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"Jason Spaceman" <notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org> wrote in message
news:CoWdnfHBzNcX-cvfRVn-rg@rogers.com...
From the article:
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Donald Kennedy
Editor-in-Chief
For much of their existence over the past two centuries, Europe and the
United
States have been societies of questioners: nations in which skepticism has
been
accepted and even welcomed, and where the culture has been characterized
by
confidence in science and in rational methods of thought. We owe this
tradition
in part to the birth of the Scottish Enlightenment of the early 18th
century,
when the practice of executing religious heretics ended, to be gradually
replaced by a developing conviction that substituted faith in experiment
for
reliance on inherited dogma.
It was so nice of the Scots to stop killing us, thanks to enlightened
reason. <snip>
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| User: "Joseph H" |
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| Title: Re: Editorial: Twilight for the Enlightenment? |
08 Apr 2005 12:53:58 PM |
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Jason Spaceman wrote:
From the article:
---------------------------
Donald Kennedy
Editor-in-Chief
For much of their existence over the past two centuries, Europe and
the United
States have been societies of questioners: nations in which
skepticism has been
accepted and even welcomed, and where the culture has been
characterized by
confidence in science and in rational methods of thought. We owe this
tradition
in part to the birth of the Scottish Enlightenment of the early 18th
century,
when the practice of executing religious heretics ended, to be
gradually
replaced by a developing conviction that substituted faith in
experiment for
reliance on inherited dogma.
That new tradition, prominently represented by the Scottish
philosopher David
Hume, supplied important roots for the growth of modernity, and it
has served
U.S. society well, as it has Europe's. The results of serious,
careful
experimentation and analysis became a standard for the entry of a
discovery or
theory into the common culture of citizens and the policies of their
governments. Thus, scientific determinations of the age of Earth and
the
theories of gravity, biological evolution, and the conservation of
matter and
energy became meaningful scientific anchors of our common
understanding.
In the United States, that understanding is now undergoing some
dissolution, as
some school boards eliminate the teaching of evolution or require
that
religious versions of creation be represented as "scientific"
alternatives.
"Intelligent design," a recent replacement for straight-up
creationism,
essentially asserts that a sufficient quantity of complexity and
beauty is by
itself evidence of divine origin--a retrogression to the
pre-Darwinian
zoologist William Paley, who saw in the elegant construction of a
beetle's
antenna the work of a Creator.
--------------------------------
Read it at http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/308/5719/165
(get a login ID at
http://www.bugmenot.com/view.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sciencemag.org
)
I share your disquiet but don't share your conclusion. It is truly
terrifying that children in the most powerful nation on earth should be
denied the truth. It is truly terrifying that as we enter a new
Millennium we should actually seem to be regressing in our acceptance
of the truth of our situation here on earth. One would have hoped that
the battle for truth had been fought - and won - way back in the last
century. One would also have hoped that everybody, young and old, would
finally begin the process of coming to value our natural situation and
coming to value our long deliverance from the past.
Having said that, I don't think the Enlightenment is quite over. There
is the rest of the world, remember. Twilight hasn't descended there
yet, to my knowledge. And American science and technology generally
continues to be quite healthy. So, I think we can survive a few
school-boards in the heartlands. Just gotta keep up the good fight!
Joseph H
www.humanisation.org
J. Spaceman
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My email address (notreally@jspaceman.homelinux.org) is fake. Email
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| User: "Ike" |
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| Title: Re: Editorial: Twilight for the Enlightenment? |
08 Apr 2005 03:00:20 PM |
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"Joseph H" <joseph@humanisation.org> wrote in message
news:1112964838.355510.12520@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Jason Spaceman wrote:
I share your disquiet but don't share your conclusion. It is truly
terrifying that children in the most powerful nation on earth should be
denied the truth. It is truly terrifying that as we enter a new
Millennium we should actually seem to be regressing in our acceptance
of the truth of our situation here on earth. One would have hoped that
the battle for truth had been fought - and won - way back in the last
century. One would also have hoped that everybody, young and old, would
finally begin the process of coming to value our natural situation and
coming to value our long deliverance from the past.
Having said that, I don't think the Enlightenment is quite over. There
is the rest of the world, remember. Twilight hasn't descended there
yet, to my knowledge. And American science and technology generally
continues to be quite healthy. So, I think we can survive a few
school-boards in the heartlands. Just gotta keep up the good fight!
In fact, the whole article was full of crappy psuedo-intellectual historical
dillettantism, and I can't think of what else..
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| User: "James Ascher" |
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| Title: Re: Editorial: Twilight for the Enlightenment? |
08 Apr 2005 12:38:04 PM |
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Jason Spaceman wrote:
From the article:
---------------------------
Donald Kennedy
Editor-in-Chief
For much of their existence over the past two centuries, Europe and the United
States have been societies of questioners: nations in which skepticism has been
accepted and even welcomed, and where the culture has been characterized by
confidence in science and in rational methods of thought. We owe this tradition
in part to the birth of the Scottish Enlightenment of the early 18th century,
when the practice of executing religious heretics ended, to be gradually
replaced by a developing conviction that substituted faith in experiment for
reliance on inherited dogma.
That new tradition, prominently represented by the Scottish philosopher David
Hume, supplied important roots for the growth of modernity, and it has served
U.S. society well, as it has Europe's. The results of serious, careful
experimentation and analysis became a standard for the entry of a discovery or
theory into the common culture of citizens and the policies of their
governments. Thus, scientific determinations of the age of Earth and the
theories of gravity, biological evolution, and the conservation of matter and
energy became meaningful scientific anchors of our common understanding.
In the United States, that understanding is now undergoing some dissolution, as
some school boards eliminate the teaching of evolution or require that
religious versions of creation be represented as "scientific" alternatives.
"Intelligent design," a recent replacement for straight-up creationism,
essentially asserts that a sufficient quantity of complexity and beauty is by
itself evidence of divine origin--a retrogression to the pre-Darwinian
zoologist William Paley, who saw in the elegant construction of a beetle's
antenna the work of a Creator.
--------------------------------
Read it at http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/summary/308/5719/165
(get a login ID at
http://www.bugmenot.com/view.php?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sciencemag.org )
Is anyone who follows William Paley a Paley-entologist? ;>)
James
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| User: "John S. Wilkins" |
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| Title: Re: Editorial: Twilight for the Enlightenment? |
10 Apr 2005 12:20:50 AM |
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James Ascher wrote:
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Is anyone who follows William Paley a Paley-entologist? ;>)
Chez Watt!
--
John S. Wilkins
Postdoctoral Research Fellow
Biohumanities Project
School of History, Philosophy, Religion and Classics
The University of Queensland
Brisbane, QLD 4072, Australia
Tel +61 7 3365 6348
Mobile 0418 543 856
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| User: "Mitchell Coffey" |
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| Title: Re: Editorial: Twilight for the Enlightenment? |
16 Apr 2005 04:25:14 AM |
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On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:20:50 +1000, "John S. Wilkins"
<john@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
James Ascher wrote:
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Is anyone who follows William Paley a Paley-entologist? ;>)
Chez Watt!
Second.
Mitchell Coffey
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| User: "Robert Grumbine" |
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| Title: Chez Watt Re: Editorial: Twilight for the Enlightenment? |
18 Apr 2005 08:49:50 PM |
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In article <hs4161lps7a3ps4avqihhinr5k3lnem0ib@4ax.com>,
Mitchell Coffey <mdotcoffeyatstarpowerdotnet@giganews.com> wrote:
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:20:50 +1000, "John S. Wilkins"
<john@wilkins.id.au> wrote:
James Ascher wrote:
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Is anyone who follows William Paley a Paley-entologist? ;>)
Chez Watt!
Second.
I agree, and believe that chances are better of the nom. being
noticed if the subject line is modified.
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Robert Grumbine http://www.radix.net/~bobg/ Science faqs and amateur activities notes and links.
Sagredo (Galileo Galilei) "You present these recondite matters with too much
evidence and ease; this great facility makes them less appreciated than they
would be had they been presented in a more abstruse manner." Two New Sciences
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| User: "VoiceOfReason" |
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| Title: Re: Editorial: Twilight for the Enlightenment? |
19 Apr 2005 02:14:14 AM |
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James Ascher wrote:
Is anyone who follows William Paley a Paley-entologist? ;>)
Thank God his last name isn't Proctor.
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