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11 Dec 2006 01:36:10 AM |
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Elderly gay Catholic couple denied communion |
More hypocritical stupidity.
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Elderly gay Catholic couple denied communion
Poirier and Murphy announced their nuptials in the newspaper.
CTV.ca News Staff
Updated: Sun. Dec. 10 2006 11:32 PM ET
As MPs voted against a motion to restore the traditional definition of
marriage in Ottawa this week, a religious gay rights battle was shaping
up in Nova Scotia.
After life-long Roman Catholics Daniel Poirier and Jack Murphy announced
their nuptials in a newspaper, they said they were told that they can't
receive communion unless they agree to remain celibate.
The men, both 69 and parishioners of Stella Maris church in Meteghan
Centre, say they're being forced to choose between their religion and
their marriage.
Communion wafers are considered the body and blood of Christ. To
Catholics, receiving communion is one of the faith's most sacred rituals.
"Jesus reached out to the marginalized. He never would have denied
communion to us," Poirier told CTV on Sunday.
But their church has told them their marriage amounted to a public
scandal.
"We can't receive communion," said Murphy. Nor can they act in any
leadership roles at all, even perform readings, in the church.
Their trouble started when their wedding announcement caught the eye of
Archbishop Terrence Prendergast. He is head of the Halifax archdiocese
and administrator of the Yarmouth diocese, which includes Meteghan.
As long as their marriage was kept quiet, Poirier said, they may have
continued to receive communion.
"I don't think he would have denied us communion if we had not gone
public with a picture, as every heterosexual couple can do when they put
their marriage picture in the paper," said Poirier.
The announcement, according to the church, went too far. A spokesperson
for the archdiocese of Halifax issued a statement that said: "Those who
make public announcements that they are living in a manner completely
contrary to the teaching of the Church cannot expect to receive Holy
Communion."
After meeting with Prendergast to argue their case, the couple received
a letter telling them they could receive communion only if they remained
celibate.
"The curse of the Catholic church is that they feel so infallible," said
Poirier.
Although the teachings of the church on sexual matters are clear and
unequivocal, some parishioners are having doubts.
"Maybe they should reconsider," said one sympathetic parishioner. "I
think they should be receiving communion."
Earlier this year, 19 priests in Quebec signed an open letter condemning
the church's position on homosexuality.
"Gays and lesbians are welcome because they belong to Jesus Christ no
less, no more than I do," said Father John Walsh.
Although they still consider themselves to be Roman Catholic, the couple
have joined the Deacon United Church in Yarmouth for now. But they said
they hope their church will some day welcome them back.
With a report from CTV's John Vennavally-Rao
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Elderly gay Catholic couple denied communion |
11 Dec 2006 09:53:51 AM |
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 23:36:10 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
More hypocritical stupidity.
Elderly gay Catholic couple denied communion
Poirier and Murphy announced their nuptials in the newspaper.
But I'll bet that if they give Catholicism up completely, the Church
will still count them as Catholics for the purpose of counting how
many "members" of the Church there are.
I wonder how many of the world's "2 billion Christians" are being
counted more than once.
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surroundings, you will find yourself in a place which has conditions
exactly suitable to your being there. If the environment was
hostile or incompatible in some important way then you would not be
there in the first place. Therefore the suitability and seeming
perfection of your universe cannot be taken as evidence of anything
more than your existence in it."
- Edward Warren, "The naturalistic fallacy"
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Elderly gay Catholic couple denied communion |
12 Dec 2006 12:05:42 AM |
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In article <2lvqn25m2frr27bsn5iaf4or5d1p6qtqda@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 23:36:10 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote:
More hypocritical stupidity.
Elderly gay Catholic couple denied communion
Poirier and Murphy announced their nuptials in the newspaper.
But I'll bet that if they give Catholicism up completely, the Church
will still count them as Catholics for the purpose of counting how
many "members" of the Church there are.
Once in never out. It's worse than the Mafia.
I wonder how many of the world's "2 billion Christians" are being
counted more than once.
Guess where Enron got its accountants.
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Elderly gay Catholic couple denied communion |
12 Dec 2006 05:38:15 AM |
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On Sun, 10 Dec 2006 23:36:10 -0800, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote:
More hypocritical stupidity.
Sorry, Christ directed us that we are not to receive Holy Communion unworthily,
and gays do not quality when practicing that which God called despicable.
You see - it's really very simple.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Scott Richter" |
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| Title: Re: Elderly gay Catholic couple denied communion |
12 Dec 2006 09:17:28 PM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
More hypocritical stupidity.
Sorry, Christ directed us that we are not to receive Holy Communion
unworthily, and gays do not quality when practicing that which God called
despicable.
You see - it's really very simple.
Hate usually is...
duke, American-American Idiot-Idiot
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"The ***** is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul LXIX
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