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"Brooklyn Bugle" |
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27 Mar 2005 11:39:35 PM |
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Elements Of A Cult. |
7 ELEMENTS OF A CULTIC GROUP
1) A centralized form of leadership that rules with unquestioned
authority like the Governing Body of the Watchtower Society.
2) A body of convictions, beliefs, and practices set forth boldly as "the
truth" by all powerful leaders such as the Watchtower Society's Governing Body.
3) A compelling presentation of the group vision to prospects that is
inviting and challenging such as join us and get to enjoy eternal life in a paradise some day real soon.
4) A series of manipulative socializing sessions to instill psychological
dependence on the group suach as the Watchtower's 4 meetings a week - hours on Sunday.
5) A definable process of group dynamics used to unethically control and
manipulate members to the detriment of said members and their family.
6) A history of abuses of authority by group leaders freely using
deception
and fear tactics, followed by a reward if served and obeyed.
7) A history of psychological and spiritual abuses of group members that
destroy lives, like the teachings of the Watchtower Society.
Cults are organizations that freely use unethical and deceptive techniques
to recruit and control members like the Watchtower Bible & Track Society.
Cult groups do not depend solely upon theological and spiritual persuasion
to attract converts. Destructive cult groups also utilize sophisticated
techniques of actual and literal mind control to deliberately manipulate
prospects and new converts, often scare tactics followed by a reward for joining the group.
Cults can and do include groups and organizations that are not typically
viewed as cult groups, in the sense that religious overtones do not
necessarily have to be present among group members.
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28 Mar 2005 10:31:38 AM |
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"Brooklyn Bugle" <Anonymous-Remailer@See.Comment.Header> wrote in message
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7 ELEMENTS OF A CULTIC GROUP
1) A centralized form of leadership that rules with unquestioned
authority like the Governing Body of the Watchtower Society.
2) A body of convictions, beliefs, and practices set forth boldly as
"the
truth" by all powerful leaders such as the Watchtower Society's
Governing Body.
3) A compelling presentation of the group vision to prospects that is
inviting and challenging such as join us and get to enjoy eternal life
in a paradise some day real soon.
4) A series of manipulative socializing sessions to instill
psychological
dependence on the group suach as the Watchtower's 4 meetings a week -
hours on Sunday.
5) A definable process of group dynamics used to unethically control and
manipulate members to the detriment of said members and their family.
6) A history of abuses of authority by group leaders freely using
deception
and fear tactics, followed by a reward if served and obeyed.
7) A history of psychological and spiritual abuses of group members that
destroy lives, like the teachings of the Watchtower Society.
Cults are organizations that freely use unethical and deceptive
techniques
to recruit and control members like the Watchtower Bible & Track
Society.
Cult groups do not depend solely upon theological and spiritual
persuasion
to attract converts. Destructive cult groups also utilize sophisticated
techniques of actual and literal mind control to deliberately manipulate
prospects and new converts, often scare tactics followed by a reward for
joining the group.
Cults can and do include groups and organizations that are not typically
viewed as cult groups, in the sense that religious overtones do not
necessarily have to be present among group members.
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AMEN!!! :-) They're right up there with the Moonies, Jim Jones and David
Koresh....
--
CR.......
Wise men stare at the unknown, and boldly asks, WHY?
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling...
(God did it! God did it!)
~ Thus Spake God's Creator ~
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28 Mar 2005 11:22:42 AM |
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Brooklyn Bugle wrote:
7 ELEMENTS OF A CULTIC GROUP
1) A centralized form of leadership that rules with unquestioned
authority like the Governing Body of the Watchtower Society.
Much like the central authority of the apostles or the central
authority of Moses or the central authority of any organization
that needs to maintain some measure of order so that it doesn't
become a chaotic, anarchic mess. BTW, JW's question the authority
all the time, and when they do they often draw the same conclusion.
It's legitimate and appreciated. And when they don't, they leave.
Free will.
2) A body of convictions, beliefs, and practices set forth boldly as "the
truth" by all powerful leaders such as the Watchtower Society's Governing Body.
Nobody has to accept their understanding of Bible. Nobody is forced to become
a JW or remain a JW. If one believes what is taught is scriptural and
appreciates the spiritual food, they sign up (get baptized).
3) A compelling presentation of the group vision to prospects that is
inviting and challenging such as join us and get to enjoy eternal life in a paradise some day real soon.
People have Bibles. They have brains. They can read. They can reason. They
can decide for themselves if they think such teachings are indeed based
on the Bible or not. If someone doesn't, he can go into Christendom
for his lantern oil.
4) A series of manipulative socializing sessions to instill psychological
dependence on the group suach as the Watchtower's 4 meetings a week - hours on Sunday.
Nobody manipulates anyone. People are encouraged this way or that way
by friends just like all humans interact with each other. Nobody's
arm gets twisted. Nobody is psyched out. The WTS trys to publish
information that's beneficial for the congregations. Most people
see the good sense in it.
5) A definable process of group dynamics used to unethically control and
manipulate members to the detriment of said members and their family.
Nothing unethical anywhere in this religion. Group dynamics is based on
love for the brotherhood. JW's have more friends, good times, and are
happier than any other religion I have seen. There are always exceptions
to the rule, but overall, these people are very happy in their worship.
6) A history of abuses of authority by group leaders freely using
deception
and fear tactics, followed by a reward if served and obeyed.
Baloney.
7) A history of psychological and spiritual abuses of group members that
destroy lives, like the teachings of the Watchtower Society.
Baloney.
Cults are organizations that freely use unethical and deceptive techniques
to recruit and control members like the Watchtower Bible & Track Society.
If so, JW's are not a cult. As a whole, JW's are the most loving and
compassionate people you could ever meet. I'm so glad this religion
is on the earth.
Snipped the rest of your worthless drivel.
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| User: "Sarah Greensleeves" |
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| Title: Re: Elements Of A Cult. |
28 Mar 2005 01:43:38 PM |
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<Carol_the_troll@Don't_feed_the_troll.com> wrote in message
news:I3X1e.4542$Wu3.3187@fe02.lga...
Brooklyn Bugle wrote:
7 ELEMENTS OF A CULTIC GROUP
1) A centralized form of leadership that rules with unquestioned
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PLONK THE TROLL! :-D
--
CR.........
Here you will find clinical studies proving that the Jehovah's Witnesses
exhibit rates of mental illness between four and forty times the average
for the population at large:
http://google.com/groups?selm=D3J0QI5Z38234.4565046296@anonymous.poster
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Elements Of A Cult. |
28 Mar 2005 01:27:57 AM |
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Brooklyn Bugle wrote:
7 ELEMENTS OF A CULTIC GROUP
1) A centralized form of leadership that rules with unquestioned
authority like the Governing Body of the Watchtower Society.
2) A body of convictions, beliefs, and practices set forth boldly as
"the
truth" by all powerful leaders such as the Watchtower Society's
Governing Body.
3) A compelling presentation of the group vision to prospects that is
inviting and challenging such as join us and get to enjoy eternal
life in a paradise some day real soon.
4) A series of manipulative socializing sessions to instill
psychological
dependence on the group suach as the Watchtower's 4 meetings a week
- hours on Sunday.
5) A definable process of group dynamics used to unethically control
and
manipulate members to the detriment of said members and their family.
6) A history of abuses of authority by group leaders freely using
deception
and fear tactics, followed by a reward if served and obeyed.
7) A history of psychological and spiritual abuses of group members
that
destroy lives, like the teachings of the Watchtower Society.
Cults are organizations that freely use unethical and deceptive
techniques
to recruit and control members like the Watchtower Bible & Track
Society.
Cult groups do not depend solely upon theological and spiritual
persuasion
to attract converts. Destructive cult groups also utilize
sophisticated
techniques of actual and literal mind control to deliberately
manipulate
prospects and new converts, often scare tactics followed by a reward
for joining the group.
Cults can and do include groups and organizations that are not
typically
viewed as cult groups, in the sense that religious overtones do not
necessarily have to be present among group members.
While this is perhaps a better definition, much of it applies to all
churches.
So I prefer the definition that a cult is a religious group without a lot of
money.
Items 6 and 7 do apply to the JW's. I've seen first hand the fear that the
"elders" can cause in people when they don't obey.
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28 Mar 2005 10:42:04 AM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1mO1e.3771$zl.2235@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
Brooklyn Bugle wrote:
7 ELEMENTS OF A CULTIC GROUP
1) A centralized form of leadership that rules with unquestioned
authority like the Governing Body of the Watchtower Society.
2) A body of convictions, beliefs, and practices set forth boldly as
"the
truth" by all powerful leaders such as the Watchtower Society's
Governing Body.
3) A compelling presentation of the group vision to prospects that is
inviting and challenging such as join us and get to enjoy eternal
life in a paradise some day real soon.
4) A series of manipulative socializing sessions to instill
psychological
dependence on the group suach as the Watchtower's 4 meetings a week
- hours on Sunday.
5) A definable process of group dynamics used to unethically control
and
manipulate members to the detriment of said members and their family.
6) A history of abuses of authority by group leaders freely using
deception
and fear tactics, followed by a reward if served and obeyed.
7) A history of psychological and spiritual abuses of group members
that
destroy lives, like the teachings of the Watchtower Society.
Cults are organizations that freely use unethical and deceptive
techniques
to recruit and control members like the Watchtower Bible & Track
Society.
Cult groups do not depend solely upon theological and spiritual
persuasion
to attract converts. Destructive cult groups also utilize
sophisticated
techniques of actual and literal mind control to deliberately
manipulate
prospects and new converts, often scare tactics followed by a reward
for joining the group.
Cults can and do include groups and organizations that are not
typically
viewed as cult groups, in the sense that religious overtones do not
necessarily have to be present among group members.
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While this is perhaps a better definition, much of it applies to all
churches.
## My family are made up mostly of Mormons, Lutherans and Catholics and the
above does not apply. No one was coerced to go door to door (not even the
Mormons), none lived in fear someone would "rat them out" for brownie
points, none lived in fear of being DFed or forced to shun anyone.... what
religions are YOU talking about.
So I prefer the definition that a cult is a religious group without a lot
of
money.
## The WTS is not in that category. They rake in a few bil a year. They
recently built a huge multi-million dollar opulent complex in NY called the
Patterson Complex. Remember that all their "lower" rank employees are
unpaid. They don't even provide them with the minimum wage or death
benefits. Thus they enjoy obscene profits other Publishing Businesses can
only dream of.
Items 6 and 7 do apply to the JW's. I've seen first hand the fear that the
"elders" can cause in people when they don't obey.
## Virtually *ALL* of them apply to the Watchtower Society/JWs.
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CR........
"There are no loose threads in the web of life"
Creation "Science" Debunked:
http://www.geocities.com/lflank
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| User: "L Perez" |
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28 Mar 2005 03:19:45 AM |
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"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1mO1e.3771$zl.2235@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
Brooklyn Bugle wrote:
7 ELEMENTS OF A CULTIC GROUP
1) A centralized form of leadership that rules with unquestioned
authority like the Governing Body of the Watchtower Society.
2) A body of convictions, beliefs, and practices set forth boldly as
"the
truth" by all powerful leaders such as the Watchtower Society's
Governing Body.
3) A compelling presentation of the group vision to prospects that is
inviting and challenging such as join us and get to enjoy eternal
life in a paradise some day real soon.
4) A series of manipulative socializing sessions to instill
psychological
dependence on the group suach as the Watchtower's 4 meetings a week
- hours on Sunday.
5) A definable process of group dynamics used to unethically control
and
manipulate members to the detriment of said members and their family.
6) A history of abuses of authority by group leaders freely using
deception
and fear tactics, followed by a reward if served and obeyed.
7) A history of psychological and spiritual abuses of group members
that
destroy lives, like the teachings of the Watchtower Society.
Cults are organizations that freely use unethical and deceptive
techniques
to recruit and control members like the Watchtower Bible & Track
Society.
Cult groups do not depend solely upon theological and spiritual
persuasion
to attract converts. Destructive cult groups also utilize
sophisticated
techniques of actual and literal mind control to deliberately
manipulate
prospects and new converts, often scare tactics followed by a reward
for joining the group.
Cults can and do include groups and organizations that are not
typically
viewed as cult groups, in the sense that religious overtones do not
necessarily have to be present among group members.
While this is perhaps a better definition, much of it applies to all
churches.
So I prefer the definition that a cult is a religious group without a lot
of money.
Items 6 and 7 do apply to the JW's. I've seen first hand the fear that the
"elders" can cause in people when they don't obey.
I just snarfed my drink dude!
that is *too* funny!!!
as one of Jehovah's Witnesses I dont think I have ever seen a more egregious
misrepresentation of the role of elders. They are slaves of the one true
Almighty God Jehovah, volunteering all their free time to help all the
people in their congregation. If I had not formerly been a catholic and
spent years studying many other religions I suppose I might have been so
naive as to believe you; since you stated it so 'matter-of-factly' as if you
actually know something. But the simple fact is that you are merely a
purveyor of mendacity.
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28 Mar 2005 10:48:30 AM |
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"L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:lPSdnVmtw-qZUdrfRVn-pg@comcast.com...
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1mO1e.3771$zl.2235@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
Brooklyn Bugle wrote:
7 ELEMENTS OF A CULTIC GROUP
1) A centralized form of leadership that rules with unquestioned
authority like the Governing Body of the Watchtower Society.
2) A body of convictions, beliefs, and practices set forth boldly as
"the
truth" by all powerful leaders such as the Watchtower Society's
Governing Body.
3) A compelling presentation of the group vision to prospects that is
inviting and challenging such as join us and get to enjoy eternal
life in a paradise some day real soon.
4) A series of manipulative socializing sessions to instill
psychological
dependence on the group suach as the Watchtower's 4 meetings a week
- hours on Sunday.
5) A definable process of group dynamics used to unethically control
and
manipulate members to the detriment of said members and their family.
6) A history of abuses of authority by group leaders freely using
deception
and fear tactics, followed by a reward if served and obeyed.
7) A history of psychological and spiritual abuses of group members
that
destroy lives, like the teachings of the Watchtower Society.
Cults are organizations that freely use unethical and deceptive
techniques
to recruit and control members like the Watchtower Bible & Track
Society.
Cult groups do not depend solely upon theological and spiritual
persuasion
to attract converts. Destructive cult groups also utilize
sophisticated
techniques of actual and literal mind control to deliberately
manipulate
prospects and new converts, often scare tactics followed by a reward
for joining the group.
Cults can and do include groups and organizations that are not
typically
viewed as cult groups, in the sense that religious overtones do not
necessarily have to be present among group members.
While this is perhaps a better definition, much of it applies to all
churches.
So I prefer the definition that a cult is a religious group without a
lot
of money.
Items 6 and 7 do apply to the JW's. I've seen first hand the fear that
the
"elders" can cause in people when they don't obey.
===========================
I just snarfed my drink dude!
that is *too* funny!!!
as one of Jehovah's Witnesses I dont think I have ever seen a more
egregious
misrepresentation of the role of elders.
## ROLE of elders? Who are THEY to disfellowship people, counsel people
even thought they have no degrees in psychology, warn people etc? Are you
claiming they just exist to make sure the KH toilets are clean?
They are slaves of the one true
Almighty God Jehovah,
## They are power-hungry egotistical oafs - just like YOU! It's the only
power these sexist men (never women) have in their lives, most holding
low-wage, low-status jobs.
volunteering all their free time to help all the
people in their congregation.
## Help them HOW? All they do is MEDDLE in people's marriages and lives in
general.
If I had not formerly been a catholic and
spent years studying many other religions
## Which religions are those LyingLouie? You keep changing the story.
I suppose I might have been so
naive as to believe you; since you stated it so 'matter-of-factly'
## Gotta hide the truth about the WTS, eh Louie? Can't have the public
know about those "elders."
as if you
actually know something. But the simple fact is that you are merely a
purveyor of mendacity.
## Poor Louie, a HS dropout, has to keep using big words to feel
important......
--
CR......
L Perez bleated: BEWARE! there are people on this newsgroup who are only
here to slander and
lie about Jehovah's Witnesses. They do not offer any alternative
organization...
Note: No other organization can even come close to the WTS' record of six,
false-alarm end-of-the world predictions in the 20th century.
(Credit to RLM)
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28 Mar 2005 11:24:39 AM |
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Plonk the troll
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| User: "Fred Hall" |
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28 Mar 2005 03:49:15 AM |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 02:19:45 -0700, "L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1mO1e.3771$zl.2235@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
Brooklyn Bugle wrote:
7 ELEMENTS OF A CULTIC GROUP
1) A centralized form of leadership that rules with unquestioned
authority like the Governing Body of the Watchtower Society.
2) A body of convictions, beliefs, and practices set forth boldly as
"the
truth" by all powerful leaders such as the Watchtower Society's
Governing Body.
3) A compelling presentation of the group vision to prospects that is
inviting and challenging such as join us and get to enjoy eternal
life in a paradise some day real soon.
4) A series of manipulative socializing sessions to instill
psychological
dependence on the group suach as the Watchtower's 4 meetings a week
- hours on Sunday.
5) A definable process of group dynamics used to unethically control
and
manipulate members to the detriment of said members and their family.
6) A history of abuses of authority by group leaders freely using
deception
and fear tactics, followed by a reward if served and obeyed.
7) A history of psychological and spiritual abuses of group members
that
destroy lives, like the teachings of the Watchtower Society.
Cults are organizations that freely use unethical and deceptive
techniques
to recruit and control members like the Watchtower Bible & Track
Society.
Cult groups do not depend solely upon theological and spiritual
persuasion
to attract converts. Destructive cult groups also utilize
sophisticated
techniques of actual and literal mind control to deliberately
manipulate
prospects and new converts, often scare tactics followed by a reward
for joining the group.
Cults can and do include groups and organizations that are not
typically
viewed as cult groups, in the sense that religious overtones do not
necessarily have to be present among group members.
While this is perhaps a better definition, much of it applies to all
churches.
So I prefer the definition that a cult is a religious group without a lot
of money.
Items 6 and 7 do apply to the JW's. I've seen first hand the fear that the
"elders" can cause in people when they don't obey.
I just snarfed my drink dude!
that is *too* funny!!!
as one of Jehovah's Witnesses I dont think I have ever seen a more egregious
misrepresentation of the role of elders. They are slaves of the one true
Almighty God Jehovah, volunteering all their free time to help all the
people in their congregation. If I had not formerly been a catholic and
spent years studying many other religions I suppose I might have been so
naive as to believe you; since you stated it so 'matter-of-factly' as if you
actually know something. But the simple fact is that you are merely a
purveyor of mendacity.
You took up a lot of bandwidth to say:
"You're a fucking liar."
"I've become an expert on world religion"
"You're a fucking liar."
Why don't you address the problem of pedophilia within your borg. Or
does Barbara forbid that topic?
--
http://silentlambs.org
www.freeminds.org
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28 Mar 2005 11:00:46 AM |
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"Fred Hall" <fkhall@databasix.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 02:19:45 -0700, "L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:1mO1e.3771$zl.2235@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com...
Brooklyn Bugle wrote:
7 ELEMENTS OF A CULTIC GROUP
1) A centralized form of leadership that rules with unquestioned
authority like the Governing Body of the Watchtower Society.
2) A body of convictions, beliefs, and practices set forth boldly as
"the
truth" by all powerful leaders such as the Watchtower Society's
Governing Body.
3) A compelling presentation of the group vision to prospects that is
inviting and challenging such as join us and get to enjoy eternal
life in a paradise some day real soon.
4) A series of manipulative socializing sessions to instill
psychological
dependence on the group suach as the Watchtower's 4 meetings a week
- hours on Sunday.
5) A definable process of group dynamics used to unethically control
and
manipulate members to the detriment of said members and their family.
6) A history of abuses of authority by group leaders freely using
deception
and fear tactics, followed by a reward if served and obeyed.
7) A history of psychological and spiritual abuses of group members
that
destroy lives, like the teachings of the Watchtower Society.
Cults are organizations that freely use unethical and deceptive
techniques
to recruit and control members like the Watchtower Bible & Track
Society.
Cult groups do not depend solely upon theological and spiritual
persuasion
to attract converts. Destructive cult groups also utilize
sophisticated
techniques of actual and literal mind control to deliberately
manipulate
prospects and new converts, often scare tactics followed by a reward
for joining the group.
Cults can and do include groups and organizations that are not
typically
viewed as cult groups, in the sense that religious overtones do not
necessarily have to be present among group members.
While this is perhaps a better definition, much of it applies to all
churches.
So I prefer the definition that a cult is a religious group without a
lot
of money.
Items 6 and 7 do apply to the JW's. I've seen first hand the fear that
the
"elders" can cause in people when they don't obey.
I just snarfed my drink dude!
that is *too* funny!!!
as one of Jehovah's Witnesses I dont think I have ever seen a more
egregious
misrepresentation of the role of elders. They are slaves of the one true
Almighty God Jehovah, volunteering all their free time to help all the
people in their congregation. If I had not formerly been a catholic and
spent years studying many other religions I suppose I might have been so
naive as to believe you; since you stated it so 'matter-of-factly' as if
you
actually know something. But the simple fact is that you are merely a
purveyor of mendacity.
You took up a lot of bandwidth to say:
"You're a fucking liar."
"I've become an expert on world religion"
"You're a fucking liar."
Why don't you address the problem of pedophilia within your borg. Or
does Barbara forbid that topic?
http://silentlambs.org
www.freeminds.org
====================
The JWs call everyone liars when they expose the filthy slime covered
underbelly of their org. As for pedophilia, LyingLouie claimed he saw
nothing wrong with hiding the fact from the parents in the congs, that it
was the parent's job to protect the children - not the WTS's job! Louie
said even if the JW pervert threatened the child the child should still call
the police. It's the old WTS/GB "blame the victim game" we all learned so
well at mother WT's bloody knee. Keep in mind now that if two single adult
JWs have sex and get caught (a REAL CRIMINAL OFFENSE in their eyes) they are
DFed and would be stoned to death if that were still legal, as per the
bible. But a man can RAPE, SODOMIZE and terrorize an unwilling child,
destroy it's life, steal it's innocence.... and he remains in good standing.
The GB doesn't want it known these predators are roaming the KHs. The Org
comes before the lives and welfare of the children..... sickening!
Now unless the GB got some NEW LIGHT from the spirits they clam "direct"
them, you can be sure it's business as usual with the pedophiles and JW
children.
--
CR....
Wise men stare at the unknown, and boldly asks, WHY?
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling...
(God did it! God did it!)
~ Thus Spake God's Creator ~
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28 Mar 2005 11:25:11 AM |
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Plonk! the troll
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29 Mar 2005 12:34:35 AM |
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<Carol_the_troll@Don't_feed_the_troll.com> wrote in message
news:16X1e.4544$Wu3.3379@fe02.lga...
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Plonk! the troll
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DOUBLE PLONK!!! :-D
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L Perez bleated: BEWARE! there are people on this newsgroup who are only
here to slander and
lie about Jehovah's Witnesses. They do not offer any alternative
organization...
Note: No other organization can even come close to the WTS' record of six,
false-alarm end-of-the world predictions in the 20th century.
(Credit to RLM)
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| User: "Patrick Sharf" |
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| Title: Re: Elements Of A Cult. |
28 Mar 2005 07:41:34 AM |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 02:19:45 -0700, "L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I just snarfed my drink dude!
that is *too* funny!!!
as one of Jehovah's Witnesses I dont think I have ever seen a more egregious
misrepresentation of the role of elders. They are slaves of the one true
Almighty God Jehovah, volunteering all their free time to help all the
people in their congregation. If I had not formerly been a catholic and
spent years studying many other religions I suppose I might have been so
naive as to believe you; since you stated it so 'matter-of-factly' as if you
actually know something. But the simple fact is that you are merely a
purveyor of mendacity.
First you say the elders are slaves, then you say they're volunteers.
Make up your mind!
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| User: "L Perez" |
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| Title: Re: Elements Of A Cult. |
29 Mar 2005 12:35:06 AM |
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"Patrick Sharf" <kranick165@aol.com> wrote in message
news:oa2g41tqo9so32mbqt5vmph77aoudumv8u@4ax.com...
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 02:19:45 -0700, "L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I just snarfed my drink dude!
that is *too* funny!!!
as one of Jehovah's Witnesses I dont think I have ever seen a more
egregious
misrepresentation of the role of elders. They are slaves of the one true
Almighty God Jehovah, volunteering all their free time to help all the
people in their congregation. If I had not formerly been a catholic and
spent years studying many other religions I suppose I might have been so
naive as to believe you; since you stated it so 'matter-of-factly' as if
you
actually know something. But the simple fact is that you are merely a
purveyor of mendacity.
First you say the elders are slaves, then you say they're volunteers.
Make up your mind!
no need...
can one not be a volunteer slave?
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Elements Of A Cult. |
30 Mar 2005 04:45:59 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:35:06 -0700, "L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Patrick Sharf" <kranick165@aol.com> wrote in message
news:oa2g41tqo9so32mbqt5vmph77aoudumv8u@4ax.com...
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 02:19:45 -0700, "L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I just snarfed my drink dude!
that is *too* funny!!!
as one of Jehovah's Witnesses I dont think I have ever seen a more
egregious
misrepresentation of the role of elders. They are slaves of the one true
Almighty God Jehovah, volunteering all their free time to help all the
people in their congregation. If I had not formerly been a catholic and
spent years studying many other religions I suppose I might have been so
naive as to believe you; since you stated it so 'matter-of-factly' as if
you
actually know something. But the simple fact is that you are merely a
purveyor of mendacity.
First you say the elders are slaves, then you say they're volunteers.
Make up your mind!
no need...
can one not be a volunteer slave?
No. LMAO @ you!
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Bee" |
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| Title: Re: Elements Of A Cult. |
31 Mar 2005 02:03:32 AM |
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Fact is .. it doesn't matter what we belong to or not belong to .. if we
are giving of our free time .. we are serving the almighty of which helps
those that fear/hat rather than love/go forward that there is hope for them
to consider giving from the heart a little instead of looking for an
exchnagemant in return ..
L
Bee
"stoney" <stoney@the.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:35:06 -0700, "L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com>
wrote:
"Patrick Sharf" <kranick165@aol.com> wrote in message
news:oa2g41tqo9so32mbqt5vmph77aoudumv8u@4ax.com...
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 02:19:45 -0700, "L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com>
wrote:
I just snarfed my drink dude!
that is *too* funny!!!
as one of Jehovah's Witnesses I dont think I have ever seen a more
egregious
misrepresentation of the role of elders. They are slaves of the one true
Almighty God Jehovah, volunteering all their free time to help all the
people in their congregation. If I had not formerly been a catholic and
spent years studying many other religions I suppose I might have been so
naive as to believe you; since you stated it so 'matter-of-factly' as if
you
actually know something. But the simple fact is that you are merely a
purveyor of mendacity.
First you say the elders are slaves, then you say they're volunteers.
Make up your mind!
no need...
can one not be a volunteer slave?
No. LMAO @ you!
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Patrick Sharf" |
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| Title: Re: Elements Of A Cult. |
29 Mar 2005 08:22:32 AM |
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On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 23:35:06 -0700, "L Perez" <LPerezDncr@hotmail.com>
wrote:
First you say the elders are slaves, then you say they're volunteers.
Make up your mind!
no need...
can one not be a volunteer slave?
Slaves, in traditional sense of the word, are not volunteers and have
no choice in the matter of their servitude, (much like the kids that
I've seen dragged door to door) but if you want to flagellate yourself
over it, that's your business.
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