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"Michelle Malkin" |
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15 Apr 2005 01:02:51 AM |
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Ellen Johnson of American Atheists On Larry King Show Now |
9pm Thursday 04/14/05
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| User: "Neil Kelsey" |
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| Title: Re: Ellen Johnson of American Atheists On Larry King Show Now |
15 Apr 2005 03:27:31 PM |
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
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9pm Thursday 04/14/05
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I watched that. ahem. Besides being the only one of the discussion panel who
makes any sense, which goes without saying, she has several of the
attributes that the superficial male admires*. I thought the next most
reasonable panelist was the muslim guy, much to my surprise, although
religion and rationality do not belong together, which showed any time he
had to speak from a doctrinal point of view. The catholic priest was not
coherent, the rabbi was just weird, the new age lady should be kicked every
time she opens her mouth, but the baptist preacher was just a raging loon,
and a complete bully.
* shamelessly stolen from Seinfeld
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| User: "LP" |
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| Title: Re: Ellen Johnson of American Atheists On Larry King Show Now |
25 Apr 2005 10:52:02 AM |
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 21:02:51 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
9pm Thursday 04/14/05
The show was actually reasonably fair. Larry King, to my surprise,
actually asked a couple of difficult questions of the panel. I had
lost all respect for Larry King after seeing his Sylvia Browne show. I
have regained at least a small amount of respect for him after seeing
the way he handled this particular show.
Here are a few of Larry King's questions put to the panel.
KING: Isn't it true, ..... All religion is based on fear of dying?
KING: Do you think, Rabbi Hier, in your heart more people think the
way Ellen (atheist) thinks -- they don't say it. They go to church.
They go to synagogue. But in their heart they think she's right?
KING: Father Manning, if there is a better place a coming why are we
so sad when people die?
Here is one of the questions asked by a caller:
CALLER: If Jesus is the only way to get into heaven, was heaven empty
and devoid of souls before Jesus came to Earth?
Here is the transcript of the show:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0504/14/lkl.01.html
Here are a few choice word given by the evangelical Christian, pastor,
teacher at Grace Community Church - (MacArthur)
MACARTHUR: Well, yes -- the only way to heaven -- and at this point I
respectfully disagree with the rabbi. Nobody can live a righteous
life. The Bible says that no one can obey the law of God. No one.
KING: So no one is going to heaven?
MACARTHUR: So no one can go to heaven on their own merits or on their
own works. I don't care how many good works they do. The New Testament
is crystal clear on the fact that...
KING: So a bad guy who believes in Christ, he's going to heaven, and
the good guy who doesn't is going to hell.
MACARTHUR: But when he truly believes...
KING: That don't sound just.
MACARTHUR: But when he truly believes -- Larry, we don't want justice.
Justice...
KING: You don't want justice?
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KING: Don't you question it, John MacArthur -- when 9/11 occurs --
don't you question your faith?
MACARTHUR: No, I don't question my faith.
KING: The guys who took the plane into the building didn't question
theirs either. And they....
MACARTHUR: I don't like that association too well.
KING: Wait a minute. They didn't give their ultimate gift?
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MACARTHUR: ....... I believe the Bible is true. I believe the Bible
stands up scientifically, historically, prophetically, I believe every
test to the scripture yields that.
KING: There's no hypocrisy.
There are contradictions.
MACARTHUR: There are hypocrites described in the Bible, but the Bible
itself...
KING: We got to take a break. Ellen, what do you believe about Jesus
Christ?
JOHNSON: Well, I'm here to give the reality point of view, I guess.
Because the reality is there is not one shred of secular evidence
there ever was a Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ and Christianity is a
modern religion. And Jesus Christ is a compilation from other Gods:
Horas, Mithra, who had the same origins, the same death as the
mythological Jesus Christ.
KING: So you don't believe there was a Jesus Christ.
JOHNSON: There was not. It is not what I believe. There is no secular
evidence that JC, Jesus Christ, ever existed.
For more of the transcript:
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0504/14/lkl.01.html
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