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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: ""
Date: 27 May 2006 10:35:31 PM
Object: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs
The time to end this ghoulish procedure is now. Attempts at playing God have
proven unsuccessful
http://www.lifenews.com/bio1530.html
Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- While lawmakers in Washington are calling
for votes on a bill that would overturn the president's limits on using
taxpayer funds to pay for embryonic stem cell research, the controversial
science has still not yielded any medical breakthroughs.
The recent scandal in South Korea shows embryonic stem cell research still
has a long, long way to go before it produces cures for patients -- if it
ever does.
Biotech lobbyists continue attack President Bush and pro-life lawmakers for
holding up votes to advance embryonic stem cell research, and can hardly
contain their glee when someone votes against funding the unproven research.
But even Sean Tipton, president of the Coalition for the Advancement of
Medical Research, a leading lobbyist for the biotech industry, acknowledges
that the controversial science is making little progress.
In his calls for a vote on funding, he admitted that "at present there's
nothing that's ready for therapeutic use."
Dr. David Stevens of the Christian Medical Association told Focus on the
Family that there are several reasons for that.
"Nobody has been able to get over the tremendous problems of getting these
cells in a pure culture so they don't cause tumors when they're
transplanted," he told Family News in Focus.
"(There's also) the problem of immune rejection - the body seeing them as
foreign material and rejecting them, and also scientists are finding that
they're not functionally normal," Dr. Stevens added.
Led by disgraced scientist Hwang Woo-suk, the South Korean research team was
supposed to have overcome that hurdle.
Hwang's team claimed to have cloned a human embryo and created
patient-specific embryonic stem cells that could be injected as cures
without a person's immune system rejecting them. However, it turned out that
the claims were false and no such specialized embryonic cells ever existed.
Without federal taxpayer funding, embryonic stem cell researchers have
continued their studies on the controversial cells with private funds, but
have still made no progress.
Dr. David Prentice, a former Indiana State University professor now with the
Family Research Council, told FNIF that embryonic stem cell research is at a
dead end.
"They've got cells; they've got federal money; they've got state money;
they've got private money," he said. "There's just frankly nothing there."
At the same time, scientists continue to have tremendous successes with
adult stem cells, which have already produced cures and treatments for
dozens of conditions and diseases.
While President Bush limited using public money for embryonic stem cell
research he's paved the way for hundreds of millions to be spent annually
since 2001 on adult stem cell research.
--
----------
J Young
youngopinions@aol.com
.

User: "Ray Fischer"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 28 May 2006 12:20:30 AM
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote:

The time to end this ghoulish procedure is now. Attempts at playing God have
proven unsuccessful

but still you keep trying to force everybody to obey you.
--
Ray Fischer
rfischer@sonic.net
.

User: "The Chief Instigator"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 28 May 2006 09:11:10 AM
<youngopinions@aol.com> writes:

The time to end this ghoulish procedure is now. Attempts at playing God have
proven unsuccessful
http://www.lifenews.com/bio1530.html

Enough said - if the nuts at Lifenews claim it, it's good enough for you,
whether it has anything to do with reality or not.
--
Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Benham, Kentucky
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2005-06 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Milwaukee 4, Houston 2 (May 9)
NEXT GAME: October 2006, opponent/venue/time TBA
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User: "Denis Loubet"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 28 May 2006 12:57:11 AM
<youngopinions@aol.com> wrote in message
news:oJudnQHOt7vNh-TZRVn-pg@giganews.com...

The time to end this ghoulish procedure is now. Attempts at playing God
have
proven unsuccessful

I wasn't aware they had to live up to your timetable, you ignorant *****.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
http://www.ashenempires.com
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User: "Parsifal"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 28 May 2006 02:23:09 AM
*The time to end this ghoulish procedure is now. Attempts at playing
God have
*proven unsuccessful
Do you mean that when the time come, you'll say no to chimiotherapy,
open-heart surgery or the help of a defibrillator? of a pacemaker? All
ghoulish procedures as we know...
THen you agree that keeping Terri Schiavo alive was also wrong since
she was already dead and that we were just playing god with her...
Why are you so dumb?
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 28 May 2006 03:27:23 AM
On 28 May 2006 00:23:09 -0700,
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote:

Ignorant Bigot, "Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" spewed:

The time to end this ghoulish procedure is now. Attempts
at playing God have proven unsuccessful.

Do you mean that when the time come, you'll say no to
chemotherapy, open-heart surgery or the help of a defibrillator?
Or a pacemaker? All ghoulish procedures as we know...

Then you agree that keeping Terri Schiavo alive was also
wrong since she was already dead and that we were just
playing God with her...

Why are you so dumb?

No sensible person is ever likely to confuse "Jon"/"IBen"
with intelligent life. (See sig.)
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 28 May 2006 08:44:43 PM
Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:

On 28 May 2006 00:23:09 -0700,
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote:

Ignorant Bigot, "Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" spewed:



The time to end this ghoulish procedure is now. Attempts
at playing God have proven unsuccessful.


Do you mean that when the time come, you'll say no to
chemotherapy, open-heart surgery or the help of a defibrillator?
Or a pacemaker? All ghoulish procedures as we know...

Then you agree that keeping Terri Schiavo alive was also
wrong since she was already dead and that we were just
playing God with her...

Why are you so dumb?


No sensible person is ever likely to confuse "Jon"/"IBen"
with intelligent life. (See sig.)

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.

Why are you so hateful toward people who cannot talk?
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 28 May 2006 11:26:14 PM
On 28 May 2006 00:23:09 -0700,
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote:

Ignorant Bigot, "Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" spewed:

The time to end this ghoulish procedure is now. Attempts
at playing God have proven unsuccessful.

Do you mean that when the time come, you'll say no to
chemotherapy, open-heart surgery or the help of a defibrillator?
Or a pacemaker? All ghoulish procedures as we know...

Then you agree that keeping Terri Schiavo alive was also
wrong since she was already dead and that we were just
playing God with her...

Why are you so dumb?

No sensible person is ever likely to confuse "Jon"/"IBen"
with intelligent life. (See sig.)
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 30 May 2006 08:08:41 AM
Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:

On 28 May 2006 00:23:09 -0700,
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote:

Ignorant Bigot, "Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" spewed:



The time to end this ghoulish procedure is now. Attempts
at playing God have proven unsuccessful.


Do you mean that when the time come, you'll say no to
chemotherapy, open-heart surgery or the help of a defibrillator?
Or a pacemaker? All ghoulish procedures as we know...

Then you agree that keeping Terri Schiavo alive was also
wrong since she was already dead and that we were just
playing God with her...

Why are you so dumb?

You are wrong, Craig. I am able to talk. I also hear voices.
Robert B. Winn
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 30 May 2006 09:15:10 AM
On 30 May 2006 06:08:41 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton wrote:

"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote:

Ignorant Bigot, "Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" spewed:

The time to end this ghoulish procedure is now. Attempts
at playing God have proven unsuccessful.

Do you mean that when the time come, you'll say no to
chemotherapy, open-heart surgery or the help of a defibrillator?
Or a pacemaker? All ghoulish procedures as we know...

Then you agree that keeping Terri Schiavo alive was also
wrong since she was already dead and that we were just
playing God with her...

Why are you so dumb?

You are wrong, Craig. I am able to talk. I also hear voices.

I'll bet you DO, Winn!! LOL!!! Nice of you to *admit* that!
And I'll bet they come through very clearly while you're
wearing your tinfoil hat!

Robert B. Winn

.

User: "David"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 30 May 2006 11:22:54 AM
On 30 May 2006 06:08:41 -0700,
typed furiously:


Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!! wrote:

On 28 May 2006 00:23:09 -0700,
"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote:

Ignorant Bigot, "Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" spewed:



The time to end this ghoulish procedure is now. Attempts
at playing God have proven unsuccessful.


Do you mean that when the time come, you'll say no to
chemotherapy, open-heart surgery or the help of a defibrillator?
Or a pacemaker? All ghoulish procedures as we know...

Then you agree that keeping Terri Schiavo alive was also
wrong since she was already dead and that we were just
playing God with her...

Why are you so dumb?

You are wrong, Craig. I am able to talk. I also hear voices.

Robert B. Winn

At least you admit it. Are you receiving help for your condition?
;-)}}}
--
David
At the bottom of the application where it says
"sign here". I put "Sagittarius"
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 30 May 2006 12:26:47 PM
On 30 May 2006 06:08:41 -0700,
Robert B. Winn <rbwinn3@juno.com> wrote:

Craig Chilton wrote:

"Parsifal" <jeanpascalvachon@gmail.com> wrote:

Ignorant Bigot, "Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" spewed:

The time to end this ghoulish procedure is now. Attempts
at playing God have proven unsuccessful.

Do you mean that when the time come, you'll say no to
chemotherapy, open-heart surgery or the help of a defibrillator?
Or a pacemaker? All ghoulish procedures as we know...

Then you agree that keeping Terri Schiavo alive was also
wrong since she was already dead and that we were just
playing God with her...

Why are you so dumb?

You are wrong, Craig. I am able to talk. I also hear voices.

I'll bet you DO, Winn!! LOL!!! Nice of you to *admit* that!
And I'll bet they come through very clearly while you're
wearing your tinfoil hat!

Robert B. Winn

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
.







User: "Richo"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 28 May 2006 09:08:43 PM
wrote:

Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- While lawmakers in Washington are calling
for votes on a bill that would overturn the president's limits on using
taxpayer funds to pay for embryonic stem cell research, the controversial
science has still not yielded any medical breakthroughs.

So give up without trying?
If the US decides to get out of this new medical technology then it
will import the results of it later from China and Europe and Korea and
Australia and... for large chunks of money.
Mark.
.

User: "cbruce"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 02 Jun 2006 02:10:41 AM
Do you feel this way about all research that doesn't give practical
results? Because another branch of research that hasn't yet born fruit
is the Pentagon's baby-- the anti-ICBM-missile. The Anti-Missile
missile. Star Wars. The one ***** Cheny was trying to sell us a few
years ago. The one where they had the rigged tests. In one of the
instances of rigging the test, they put a homing beacon in the target
missle. This is the one that Cheny shoved down our thoats in 2002 (i
think). He said it would protect us from terrorism!? It easily passed
both Houses.
(i was gonna go into more detail and drag this out more, but screw it)
That piece of ***** has cost over a trillion dollars since Regan's day,
and we got *****, to show for it.
_____________________
youngopinions@aol.com wrote:

The time to end this ghoulish procedure is now. Attempts at playing God have
proven unsuccessful



http://www.lifenews.com/bio1530.html






Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- While lawmakers in Washington are calling
for votes on a bill that would overturn the president's limits on using
taxpayer funds to pay for embryonic stem cell research, the controversial
science has still not yielded any medical breakthroughs.

The recent scandal in South Korea shows embryonic stem cell research still
has a long, long way to go before it produces cures for patients -- if it
ever does.
Biotech lobbyists continue attack President Bush and pro-life lawmakers for
holding up votes to advance embryonic stem cell research, and can hardly
contain their glee when someone votes against funding the unproven research.

But even Sean Tipton, president of the Coalition for the Advancement of
Medical Research, a leading lobbyist for the biotech industry, acknowledges
that the controversial science is making little progress.

In his calls for a vote on funding, he admitted that "at present there's
nothing that's ready for therapeutic use."

Dr. David Stevens of the Christian Medical Association told Focus on the
Family that there are several reasons for that.

"Nobody has been able to get over the tremendous problems of getting these
cells in a pure culture so they don't cause tumors when they're
transplanted," he told Family News in Focus.

"(There's also) the problem of immune rejection - the body seeing them as
foreign material and rejecting them, and also scientists are finding that
they're not functionally normal," Dr. Stevens added.

Led by disgraced scientist Hwang Woo-suk, the South Korean research team was
supposed to have overcome that hurdle.

Hwang's team claimed to have cloned a human embryo and created
patient-specific embryonic stem cells that could be injected as cures
without a person's immune system rejecting them. However, it turned out that
the claims were false and no such specialized embryonic cells ever existed.

Without federal taxpayer funding, embryonic stem cell researchers have
continued their studies on the controversial cells with private funds, but
have still made no progress.

Dr. David Prentice, a former Indiana State University professor now with the
Family Research Council, told FNIF that embryonic stem cell research is at a
dead end.

"They've got cells; they've got federal money; they've got state money;
they've got private money," he said. "There's just frankly nothing there."

At the same time, scientists continue to have tremendous successes with
adult stem cells, which have already produced cures and treatments for
dozens of conditions and diseases.

While President Bush limited using public money for embryonic stem cell
research he's paved the way for hundreds of millions to be spent annually
since 2001 on adult stem cell research.














--
----------

J Young
youngopinions@aol.com

.

User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 27 May 2006 10:45:04 PM
On Sat, 27 May 2006 23:35:31 -0400,
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:

Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still
Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs

Not to worry -- it surely WILL!
And there are many indications that the medical
benefits to humanity will be WONDROUS!
(So get lost, pathetic little malcontent. Or keep
on making a total FOOL of yourself. Either way, the
readers in here WIN.)
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
.
User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 28 May 2006 10:17:59 AM
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:807i721ip5n9os4b7stmhl9kvltqhii12g@4ax.com...

On Sat, 27 May 2006 23:35:31 -0400,
"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:


Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still
Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs


Not to worry -- it surely WILL!

After how many years of this fetus body disposal activity do you think you
can continue to mask fetal body disposal as stem cell research?

And there are many indications that the medical
benefits to humanity will be WONDROUS!

Where?
Show us.
LOL!!!!!!!!!
Where are the indications?
LOL!
We want real, proven benefits. not some airbag full of nothing.

(So get lost, pathetic little malcontent. Or keep
on making a total FOOL of yourself. Either way, the
readers in here WIN.)

Nah, fool.
We don't like spending billions on the Pro-Choice fetus body destruction
business that is so unproductive.
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 28 May 2006 11:50:13 AM
On Sun, 28 May 2006 11:17:59 -0400,
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky spewed:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:

Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still
Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs

Not to worry -- it surely WILL!

<IDIOCY-flush. (Wentzky's really GOOD at being a blithering
idiot. But, unfortunately, not for much of anything else.)>

And there are many indications that the medical
benefits to humanity will be WONDROUS!

Where? Show us.

ROTFL!!! That's like asking that of ANY precursor of medical
breakthroughs. Fortunately, the researchers brushed off such
POINTLESS skepticism, and proceeded unabated through the
steps that led to the breakthroughs.
There is absolutely NO reason *not* to do this research.
It will either succeed spectacularly, or it'll be a draw. But
no one will lose as a result of their making these efforts.

(So get lost, pathetic little malcontent. Or keep
on making a total FOOL of yourself. Either way, the
readers in here WIN.)

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
.
User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 28 May 2006 11:58:11 AM
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:95lj72h9peejbs636l05u624hgr48v066t@4ax.com...

On Sun, 28 May 2006 11:17:59 -0400,
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky spewed:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:



Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still
Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs


Not to worry -- it surely WILL!


<IDIOCY-flush.

You erased the part that you know shows you are a windbag.

(Wentzky's really GOOD at being a blithering
idiot. But, unfortunately, not for much of anything else.)>

Why do you project your own faults so much?

And there are many indications that the medical
benefits to humanity will be WONDROUS!


Where? Show us.


ROTFL!!! That's like asking that of ANY precursor of medical
breakthroughs. Fortunately, the researchers brushed off such
POINTLESS skepticism, and proceeded unabated through the
steps that led to the breakthroughs.

There is absolutely NO reason *not* to do this research.

It will either succeed spectacularly, or it'll be a draw. But
no one will lose as a result of their making these efforts.

Where are the results then?
They have been saying that same ***** for years and years already, windbag.
Your freaking problem is you do not understand what is really beneficial to
society at large and you resist plans for good in order to support some
wasteful ***** oligarchial crap arrangement that enriches very few people
at the expense of almost everyone while you falsely assume that persons such
as me are totally against any sort of stem cell research at all.
You are the idiot, because you support stem cell research as a method to
destroy aborted fetus bodies, you idiot.
Your methods cause strife and hate and division within society.
Your methods are imperfect and they are hated by millions.
And, they are unproductive and wasteful.
You are the loser.
DOGMEAT!
DOGBRAINS!
DOGHEAD!

(So get lost, pathetic little malcontent. Or keep
on making a total FOOL of yourself. Either way, the
readers in here WIN.)

Nah, weenie brain.
You get lost.
I am probably at least ten times; i.e., at least one order of magnitude
(correct?) smarter than you.
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 28 May 2006 01:42:54 PM
On Sun, 28 May 2006 12:58:11 -0400,
Ignorant Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky spewed:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:

Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still
Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs

Not to worry -- it surely WILL!

<IDIOCY-flush.

(Wentzky's really GOOD at being a blithering
idiot. But, unfortunately, not for much of anything else.)>

And there are many indications that the medical
benefits to humanity will be WONDROUS!

Where? Show us.

ROTFL!!! That's like asking that of ANY precursor of medical
breakthroughs. Fortunately, the researchers brushed off such
POINTLESS skepticism, and proceeded unabated through the
steps that led to the breakthroughs.

There is absolutely NO reason *not* to do this research.

It will either succeed spectacularly, or it'll be a draw. But
no one will lose as a result of their making these efforts.

Where are the results then?

What part of the word, "precursor," as used above, lies
beyond your LIMITED comprehension capabilities.

They have been saying that same ***** for years and
years already.

JUST as people did for decades *before* the atomic bomb
was developed. Then there came the Manhattan Project which
PROVED those atomic theories and produced the Bomb.
There is NO reason to regard the potential benefits of
human embryonic stem cell research any differently. Meanwhile,
all such research is 100% HARMLESS. (Instead, evidently, in the
selfish and bone-IGNORANT minds of dolts like you. Fortunately,
you dolts have NO say in the matter, and are nothing but pathetic
laughingstocks.
<mindless bullcrap flushed>

Your methods cause strife and hate and division within society.

Nope. But the mindless STUPIDITY of noisy (and noisome)
louts like you has that potential. But society puts up with most
of that idiocy because you provide us with so much comic relief.
<IDIOCY-flush>

(So get lost, pathetic little malcontent. Or keep
on making a total FOOL of yourself. Either way, the
readers in here WIN.)

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
.
User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 28 May 2006 02:27:27 PM
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:aprj72pv50o7c3ien12fdm5f17l09a7edb@4ax.com...

On Sun, 28 May 2006 12:58:11 -0400,
Ignorant Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky spewed:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:



Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still
Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs


Not to worry -- it surely WILL!


<IDIOCY-flush.

(Wentzky's really GOOD at being a blithering
idiot. But, unfortunately, not for much of anything else.)>


And there are many indications that the medical
benefits to humanity will be WONDROUS!


Where? Show us.


ROTFL!!! That's like asking that of ANY precursor of medical
breakthroughs. Fortunately, the researchers brushed off such
POINTLESS skepticism, and proceeded unabated through the
steps that led to the breakthroughs.

There is absolutely NO reason *not* to do this research.

It will either succeed spectacularly, or it'll be a draw. But
no one will lose as a result of their making these efforts.


Where are the results then?


What part of the word, "precursor," as used above, lies
beyond your LIMITED comprehension capabilities.

None. How about thinking about precursors and some reasonable time frame?
As I asked you already two times or more, where are these promised wonderful
breakthroughs?
How much $$ has been spent on it in total and how many benefits have been
seen?

They have been saying that same ***** for years and
years already.


JUST as people did for decades *before* the atomic bomb
was developed. Then there came the Manhattan Project which
PROVED those atomic theories and produced the Bomb.

Atomic bombs are much different than stem cell research.

There is NO reason to regard the potential benefits of
human embryonic stem cell research any differently.

So, you think fission and stem cells are that related?

Meanwhile,
all such research is 100% HARMLESS. (Instead, evidently, in the
selfish and bone-IGNORANT minds of dolts like you. Fortunately,
you dolts have NO say in the matter, and are nothing but pathetic
laughingstocks.

You are who is laughed at currently.
Pisses you off, huh?

<mindless bullcrap flushed>

The part you can not refute is the part you delete.
LOL!

Your methods cause strife and hate and division within society.


Nope.

Tsk, tsk.

But the mindless STUPIDITY of noisy (and noisome)
louts like you has that potential.

A division within the Pro-Choice camp?
Wow.
You never thought that could happen?
You're losing control.
People are turning on you already.
Aborting living humans in utero is passe'.

But society puts up with most
of that idiocy because you provide us with so much comic relief.

Society is pissed and laughing at you, numbskull.

<IDIOCY-flush>

Deletion of that you can not refute noted, again.
[snip]
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 28 May 2006 03:42:34 PM
On Sun, 28 May 2006 15:27:27 -0400,
Ignorant Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Ignorant Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky spewed:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:

Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still
Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs

Not to worry -- it surely WILL!

And there are many indications that the medical
benefits to humanity will be WONDROUS!

Where? Show us.

ROTFL!!! That's like asking that of ANY precursor of medical
breakthroughs. Fortunately, the researchers brushed off such
POINTLESS skepticism, and proceeded unabated through the
steps that led to the breakthroughs.

There is absolutely NO reason *not* to do this research.

It will either succeed spectacularly, or it'll be a draw. But
no one will lose as a result of their making these efforts.

Where are the results then?

What part of the word, "precursor," as used above, lies
beyond your LIMITED comprehension capabilities.

<redundant idiocy flushed>

They have been saying that same ***** for years and
years already.

JUST as people did for decades *before* the atomic bomb
was developed. Then there came the Manhattan Project which
PROVED those atomic theories and produced the Bomb.

Atomic bombs are much different than stem cell research.

[[[ READERS: The Miller Analogies Test was accepted by
Mensa decades ago for admission into their high-IQ frat.
Here's a good example of why that is. People of lower
mentality aren't able to distinguish and integrate those
subtleties as well. And the closer the person comes to
mentally-challenged status, the more OBVIOUS the
analogies can be, and still not be comprehended. As
Wentzky just proved to all of us so WELL. (For sure...
RRR cult lemmings are FAR from being the brightest
candles in the beacon shop.) ]]]

There is NO reason to regard the potential benefits of
human embryonic stem cell research any differently.

So, you think fission and stem cells are that related?

See above note to the readers, dullard.

Meanwhile, all such research is 100% HARMLESS. (Instead,
evidently, in the selfish and bone-IGNORANT minds of dolts like
you. Fortunately, you dolts have NO say in the matter, and are
nothing but pathetic laughingstocks.


You are who is laughed at currently.

By DOLTS only! I would be worried if that *weren't* the case!
As long as that happens, I know I'm doing my job right as a fair-
minded and sensible humanitarian/egalitarian.

Pisses you off, huh?

To the contrary. As long as that happens on the part of losers
like YOU, I'm happy as a clam!

Your methods cause strife and hate and division
within society.

Nope. But the mindless STUPIDITY of noisy (and noisome)
louts like you has that potential.

<IDIOCY-flush>

But society puts up with most of that idiocy because you
provide us with so much comic relief.

(So get lost, pathetic little malcontent. Or keep
on making a total FOOL of yourself. Either way, the
readers in here WIN.)

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
--
RRR cult lemmings... dumber than dirt.
America's mentally-challenged version of the Taliban.

Where common sense and intelligence combine,
a fair-minded egalitarian is ALWAYS the result. RRR
Cult lemmings always lack either one or the other, or
both, of those two elements.
.
User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 28 May 2006 06:48:57 PM
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:lp2k721f16kfkg5j36i44635o9bf8uvjq2@4ax.com...

On Sun, 28 May 2006 15:27:27 -0400,
Ignorant Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Ignorant Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky spewed:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:



Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still
Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs


Not to worry -- it surely WILL!

And there are many indications that the medical
benefits to humanity will be WONDROUS!


Where? Show us.


ROTFL!!! That's like asking that of ANY precursor of medical
breakthroughs. Fortunately, the researchers brushed off such
POINTLESS skepticism, and proceeded unabated through the
steps that led to the breakthroughs.

There is absolutely NO reason *not* to do this research.

It will either succeed spectacularly, or it'll be a draw. But
no one will lose as a result of their making these efforts.


Where are the results then?


What part of the word, "precursor," as used above, lies
beyond your LIMITED comprehension capabilities.


<redundant idiocy flushed>

IOW, redundant refusal to answer that which you seem unable to refute.

They have been saying that same ***** for years and
years already.


JUST as people did for decades *before* the atomic bomb
was developed. Then there came the Manhattan Project which
PROVED those atomic theories and produced the Bomb.


Atomic bombs are much different than stem cell research.


[[[ READERS: The Miller Analogies Test was accepted by
Mensa decades ago for admission into their high-IQ frat.
Here's a good example of why that is. People of lower
mentality aren't able to distinguish and integrate those
subtleties as well. And the closer the person comes to
mentally-challenged status, the more OBVIOUS the
analogies can be, and still not be comprehended. As
Wentzky just proved to all of us so WELL. (For sure...
RRR cult lemmings are FAR from being the brightest
candles in the beacon shop.) ]]]

ad hominem attack noted

There is NO reason to regard the potential benefits of
human embryonic stem cell research any differently.


So, you think fission and stem cells are that related?


See above note to the readers, dullard.

ad hominem attack was already noted.
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 28 May 2006 06:58:02 PM
On Sun, 28 May 2006 15:27:27 -0400,
Ignorant Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Ignorant Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky spewed:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:

Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still
Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs

Not to worry -- it surely WILL!

And there are many indications that the medical
benefits to humanity will be WONDROUS!

Where? Show us.

ROTFL!!! That's like asking that of ANY precursor of medical
breakthroughs. Fortunately, the researchers brushed off such
POINTLESS skepticism, and proceeded unabated through the
steps that led to the breakthroughs.

There is absolutely NO reason *not* to do this research.

It will either succeed spectacularly, or it'll be a draw. But
no one will lose as a result of their making these efforts.

Where are the results then?

What part of the word, "precursor," as used above, lies
beyond your LIMITED comprehension capabilities.

<redundant idiocy flushed>

They have been saying that same ***** for years and
years already.

JUST as people did for decades *before* the atomic bomb
was developed. Then there came the Manhattan Project which
PROVED those atomic theories and produced the Bomb.

Atomic bombs are much different than stem cell research.

[[[ READERS: The Miller Analogies Test was accepted by
Mensa decades ago for admission into their high-IQ frat.
Here's a good example of why that is. People of lower
mentality aren't able to distinguish and integrate those
subtleties as well. And the closer the person comes to
mentally-challenged status, the more OBVIOUS the
analogies can be, and still not be comprehended. As
Wentzky just proved to all of us so WELL. (For sure...
RRR cult lemmings are FAR from being the brightest
candles in the beacon shop.) ]]]

There is NO reason to regard the potential benefits of
human embryonic stem cell research any differently.

So, you think fission and stem cells are that related?

See above note to the readers, dullard.

Meanwhile, all such research is 100% HARMLESS. (Instead,
evidently, in the selfish and bone-IGNORANT minds of dolts like
you. Fortunately, you dolts have NO say in the matter, and are
nothing but pathetic laughingstocks.


You are who is laughed at currently.

By DOLTS only! I would be worried if that *weren't* the case!
As long as that happens, I know I'm doing my job right as a fair-
minded and sensible humanitarian/egalitarian.

Pisses you off, huh?

To the contrary. As long as that happens on the part of losers
like YOU, I'm happy as a clam!

Your methods cause strife and hate and division
within society.

Nope. But the mindless STUPIDITY of noisy (and noisome)
louts like you has that potential.

<IDIOCY-flush>

But society puts up with most of that idiocy because you
provide us with so much comic relief.

(So get lost, pathetic little malcontent. Or keep
on making a total FOOL of yourself. Either way, the
readers in here WIN.)

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
--
RRR cult lemmings... dumber than dirt.
America's mentally-challenged version of the Taliban.

Where common sense and intelligence combine,
a fair-minded egalitarian is ALWAYS the result. RRR
Cult lemmings always lack either one or the other, or
both, of those two elements.
.
User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 28 May 2006 07:23:58 PM
So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 28 May 2006 11:25:34 PM
On Sun, 28 May 2006 15:27:27 -0400,
Ignorant Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Ignorant Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky spewed:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

"Jon Young"/"IBen Getiner" wrote:

Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still
Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs

Not to worry -- it surely WILL!

And there are many indications that the medical
benefits to humanity will be WONDROUS!

Where? Show us.

ROTFL!!! That's like asking that of ANY precursor of medical
breakthroughs. Fortunately, the researchers brushed off such
POINTLESS skepticism, and proceeded unabated through the
steps that led to the breakthroughs.

There is absolutely NO reason *not* to do this research.

It will either succeed spectacularly, or it'll be a draw. But
no one will lose as a result of their making these efforts.

Where are the results then?

What part of the word, "precursor," as used above, lies
beyond your LIMITED comprehension capabilities.

<redundant idiocy flushed>

They have been saying that same ***** for years and
years already.

JUST as people did for decades *before* the atomic bomb
was developed. Then there came the Manhattan Project which
PROVED those atomic theories and produced the Bomb.

Atomic bombs are much different than stem cell research.

[[[ READERS: The Miller Analogies Test was accepted by
Mensa decades ago for admission into their high-IQ frat.
Here's a good example of why that is. People of lower
mentality aren't able to distinguish and integrate those
subtleties as well. And the closer the person comes to
mentally-challenged status, the more OBVIOUS the
analogies can be, and still not be comprehended. As
Wentzky just proved to all of us so WELL. (For sure...
RRR cult lemmings are FAR from being the brightest
candles in the beacon shop.) ]]]

There is NO reason to regard the potential benefits of
human embryonic stem cell research any differently.

So, you think fission and stem cells are that related?

See above note to the readers, dullard.

Meanwhile, all such research is 100% HARMLESS. (Instead,
evidently, in the selfish and bone-IGNORANT minds of dolts like
you. Fortunately, you dolts have NO say in the matter, and are
nothing but pathetic laughingstocks.


You are who is laughed at currently.

By DOLTS only! I would be worried if that *weren't* the case!
As long as that happens, I know I'm doing my job right as a fair-
minded and sensible humanitarian/egalitarian.

Pisses you off, huh?

To the contrary. As long as that happens on the part of losers
like YOU, I'm happy as a clam!

Your methods cause strife and hate and division
within society.

Nope. But the mindless STUPIDITY of noisy (and noisome)
louts like you has that potential.

<IDIOCY-flush>

But society puts up with most of that idiocy because you
provide us with so much comic relief.

(So get lost, pathetic little malcontent. Or keep
on making a total FOOL of yourself. Either way, the
readers in here WIN.)

-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
--
RRR cult lemmings... dumber than dirt.
America's mentally-challenged version of the Taliban.

Where common sense and intelligence combine,
a fair-minded egalitarian is ALWAYS the result. RRR
Cult lemmings always lack either one or the other, or
both, of those two elements.
.

User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 28 May 2006 11:25:18 PM
On Sun, 28 May 2006 20:23:58 -0400,
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:

So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.

Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...
.
User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 28 May 2006 11:29:17 PM
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:attk72l1llmu1gos8tjpmqdquk59au4ajl@4ax.com...

On Sun, 28 May 2006 20:23:58 -0400,
Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:


So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.


Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...

IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem unable to refute.
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 29 May 2006 12:21:36 AM
On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:

So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.

Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...

IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.

You, as the quintessential example of a profoundly
socially-retarded RRR Cult lemming, could probably be
rebutted by the average lab rat.
You wouldn't know a relevant FACT if you tripped
over it.
Which is probably just as well, since NO relevant
facts that support your anti-social agendas even EXIST
for you to draw upon.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
.
User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 29 May 2006 07:50:46 AM
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:u61l72hgiv56s7eq08di2u8be12d9ll6po@4ax.com...

On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:



So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.


Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...


IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.


You, as the quintessential example of a profoundly
socially-retarded RRR Cult lemming, could probably be
rebutted by the average lab rat.

You wouldn't know a relevant FACT if you tripped
over it.

Which is probably just as well, since NO relevant
facts that support your anti-social agendas even EXIST
for you to draw upon.

ad hominem noted
.
User: "Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 29 May 2006 09:50:54 AM
On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:

So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.

Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...

IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.

You, as the quintessential example of a profoundly
socially-retarded RRR Cult lemming, could probably be
rebutted by the average lab rat.
You wouldn't know a relevant FACT if you tripped
over it.
Which is probably just as well, since NO relevant
facts that support your anti-social agendas even EXIST
for you to draw upon.
-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.
.
User: "Johnny"

Title: Re: Embryonic Stem Cell Research Has Still Not Yielded Medical Breakthroughs 29 May 2006 12:40:32 PM
"Craig Chilton -- Get us the hell OUT of Iraq -- NOW!!!"
<xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote in message
news:8i2m7295d4hum9097s27841cl1v5r9vcm3@4ax.com...

On Mon, 29 May 2006 00:29:17 -0400,
Bigoted Loser, John Wentzky wrote:

Craig Chilton <xanadu222@mchsi.com> wrote:

Mindless Bigot, John Wentzky wrote:



So, when you are unable to rebutt you repeat.


Wrong, liar. I repeat my posts whenever my opponent
has made NO valid points, as an indicator of same. Just
as I am doing NOW...


IOW, another refusal to answer that which you seem
unable to refute.

ad hominem follows:


You, as the quintessential example of a profoundly
socially-retarded RRR Cult lemming, could probably be
rebutted by the average lab rat.

You wouldn't know a relevant FACT if you tripped
over it.

Which is probably just as well, since NO relevant
facts that support your anti-social agendas even EXIST
for you to draw upon.


-- Craig Chilton <xanadu222_@mchsi.com>
---
RRR Cult lemmings.
Dumber than dirt. America's own version of the Taliban.
Selfishly, hatefully, and mindlessly supporting sociopathic
agendas that seek to destroy vital personal liberties of
millions of people. (That's as dumb as it GETS!!!)
And constantly proving that to everyone.

.

















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