Religions > Atheism > End of life - They are letting my grandmother starve to death.
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12 Oct 2005 05:57:39 PM |
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End of life - They are letting my grandmother starve to death. |
My grandmother slipped into a coma over the weekend. She had a stroke, they
say. She was only mildly responsive the first few days, and now she's not
responsive at all. She looks around and things but it doesn't appear that she's
actually aware of her environment. She cannot swallow. They say that if we
tried giving her water she would drown. In accordance with her wishes, they are
not keeping her on life support - this includes not feeding her or giving her
water. She is starving and dehydrating to death just like Terri Schiavo did.
It all seems so simple, so easy. No one is protesting, no one is fighting it.
It's what she wanted, and she made it known well in advance - in writing. All I
can say is people, get yourself a living will if that's what you want.
Otherwise, others might presume the right to put your loved ones through a
living hell when the time comes for those decisions to be made. It sounds
brutal, but I know my grandmother well enough to know she'd rather starve to
death than become a public spectacle "opportunist magnet" like Terry Schiavo
did.
My grandma was a deeply religious woman trapped in a loveless marriage to a
bitter and hate-filled man who - typical of homosexuals of his generation - felt
compelled to marry a woman because it was "God's will". They were both
"trapped", not just her, by the circumstances of the era into which they were
born.
Uncle Larry, if you're out there and happen to be reading this (I have reason to
suspect you might be), your mother is dying. I thought you should know, and I
don't believe they know how to contact you. If you're not, you'll find out the
next time you get in touch with anyone back in Jerome.
That's all. Thanks for reading.
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L8r,
Uncle Buck
BAAWA
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: End of life - They are letting my grandmother starve to death. |
12 Oct 2005 07:46:50 PM |
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"Uncle Buck" <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
news:o64rk1hfourjk4cgf0opmbu1882q6un8jl@4ax.com...
My grandmother slipped into a coma over the weekend. She had a stroke,
they
say. She was only mildly responsive the first few days, and now she's not
responsive at all. She looks around and things but it doesn't appear that
she's
actually aware of her environment. She cannot swallow. They say that if
we
tried giving her water she would drown. In accordance with her wishes,
they are
not keeping her on life support - this includes not feeding her or giving
her
water. She is starving and dehydrating to death just like Terri Schiavo
did.
It all seems so simple, so easy. No one is protesting, no one is fighting
it.
It's what she wanted, and she made it known well in advance - in writing.
All I
can say is people, get yourself a living will if that's what you want.
Otherwise, others might presume the right to put your loved ones through a
living hell when the time comes for those decisions to be made. It sounds
brutal, but I know my grandmother well enough to know she'd rather starve
to
death than become a public spectacle "opportunist magnet" like Terry
Schiavo
did.
My grandma was a deeply religious woman trapped in a loveless marriage to
a
bitter and hate-filled man who - typical of homosexuals of his
generation - felt
compelled to marry a woman because it was "God's will". They were both
"trapped", not just her, by the circumstances of the era into which they
were
born.
Uncle Larry, if you're out there and happen to be reading this (I have
reason to
suspect you might be), your mother is dying. I thought you should know,
and I
don't believe they know how to contact you. If you're not, you'll find
out the
next time you get in touch with anyone back in Jerome.
That's all. Thanks for reading.
Oh hon, I am SO sorry. However, I hope you do take comfort in the fact that
your grandmother's wishes are being upheld and she's leaving the planet with
the dignity she wanted and deserved.
Hang in there. I'll be thinking of you.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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| Title: Re: End of life - They are letting my grandmother starve to death. |
12 Oct 2005 06:02:54 PM |
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I'm sorry to hear that your grandmother is dying, Buck. I know you
said she left a living will, but it's still not easy to carry out her
wishes. My Mom died back in January of 2004, after we had her taken
off the respirator according to her living will. I know what you're
going through. I'm sending you some good vibes to get you through.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: End of life - They are letting my grandmother starve to death. |
12 Oct 2005 07:49:38 PM |
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"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:1129158174.705799.122760@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
I'm sorry to hear that your grandmother is dying, Buck. I know you
said she left a living will, but it's still not easy to carry out her
wishes. My Mom died back in January of 2004, after we had her taken
off the respirator according to her living will. I know what you're
going through. I'm sending you some good vibes to get you through.
Yep, my dad passed away December 2004 after being taken off the respirator
according to his living will. The hospital staff didn't even ask for it.
Just stated there was no hope and assumed (rightly) this is what he and we
would have wanted. They were extremely compassionate during a very
emotional time.
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: End of life - They are letting my grandmother starve to death. |
14 Oct 2005 10:34:48 PM |
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On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 18:57:39 -0400, Uncle Buck
<UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote:
My grandmother slipped into a coma over the weekend. She had a stroke, they
say. She was only mildly responsive the first few days, and now she's not
responsive at all. She looks around and things but it doesn't appear that she's
actually aware of her environment. She cannot swallow. They say that if we
tried giving her water she would drown. In accordance with her wishes, they are
not keeping her on life support - this includes not feeding her or giving her
water. She is starving and dehydrating to death just like Terri Schiavo did.
It all seems so simple, so easy. No one is protesting, no one is fighting it.
It's what she wanted, and she made it known well in advance - in writing.
[]
That's all. Thanks for reading.
Fortunately, she's unaware of what's happening. Gambaru=hang in
there. :\
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: Re: End of life - They are letting my grandmother starve to death. |
12 Oct 2005 08:53:51 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Uncle Buck
(UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com) made the light shine upon us with this:
My grandmother slipped into a coma over the weekend. She had a
stroke, they say. She was only mildly responsive the first few days,
and now she's not responsive at all. She looks around and things but
it doesn't appear that she's actually aware of her environment. She
cannot swallow. They say that if we tried giving her water she would
drown. In accordance with her wishes, they are not keeping her on
life support - this includes not feeding her or giving her water. She
is starving and dehydrating to death just like Terri Schiavo did.
It all seems so simple, so easy. No one is protesting, no one is
fighting it. It's what she wanted, and she made it known well in
advance - in writing. All I can say is people, get yourself a living
will if that's what you want. Otherwise, others might presume the
right to put your loved ones through a living hell when the time comes
for those decisions to be made. It sounds brutal, but I know my
grandmother well enough to know she'd rather starve to death than
become a public spectacle "opportunist magnet" like Terry Schiavo did.
My grandma was a deeply religious woman trapped in a loveless marriage
to a bitter and hate-filled man who - typical of homosexuals of his
generation - felt compelled to marry a woman because it was "God's
will". They were both "trapped", not just her, by the circumstances
of the era into which they were born.
Uncle Larry, if you're out there and happen to be reading this (I have
reason to suspect you might be), your mother is dying. I thought you
should know, and I don't believe they know how to contact you. If
you're not, you'll find out the next time you get in touch with anyone
back in Jerome.
That's all. Thanks for reading.
I'm sorry for your pain, but you seem to have a handle on the situation.
They don't last forever. Good luck with the relatives.
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Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
http://home.comcast.net/~vickman/
Today's example of Christian Love:
"1:19 And the LORD was with Judah; and he (JUDAH)drave out the
inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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| Title: Re: End of life - They are letting my grandmother starve to death. |
12 Oct 2005 08:34:32 PM |
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Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in
news:o64rk1hfourjk4cgf0opmbu1882q6un8jl@4ax.com:
My grandmother slipped into a coma over the weekend. She had a
stroke, they say. She was only mildly responsive the first few days,
and now she's not responsive at all. She looks around and things but
it doesn't appear that she's actually aware of her environment. She
cannot swallow. They say that if we tried giving her water she would
drown. In accordance with her wishes, they are not keeping her on
life support - this includes not feeding her or giving her water. She
is starving and dehydrating to death just like Terri Schiavo did.
I'm sorry.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
War Begins With Dubya
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| User: "Enkidu the Atheist" |
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12 Oct 2005 08:34:59 PM |
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Uncle Buck <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in
news:o64rk1hfourjk4cgf0opmbu1882q6un8jl@4ax.com:
My grandmother slipped into a coma over the weekend. She had a
stroke, they say. She was only mildly responsive the first few days,
and now she's not responsive at all. She looks around and things but
it doesn't appear that she's actually aware of her environment. She
cannot swallow. They say that if we tried giving her water she would
drown. In accordance with her wishes, they are not keeping her on
life support - this includes not feeding her or giving her water. She
is starving and dehydrating to death just like Terri Schiavo did.
I'm sorry.
--
Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
PGP ID: 0xC4CE8CF0
War Begins With Dubya
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| User: "wbarwell" |
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| Title: Re: End of life - They are letting my grandmother starve to death. |
12 Oct 2005 10:09:22 PM |
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Uncle Buck wrote:
My grandmother slipped into a coma over the weekend. She had a
stroke, they
say. She was only mildly responsive the first few days, and
now she's not
responsive at all. She looks around and things but it doesn't
appear that she's
actually aware of her environment. She cannot swallow. They
say that if we
tried giving her water she would drown. In accordance with her
wishes, they are not keeping her on life support - this
includes not feeding her or giving her
water. She is starving and dehydrating to death just like
Terri Schiavo did.
It all seems so simple, so easy. No one is protesting, no one
is fighting it.
It's what she wanted, and she made it known well in advance -
in writing. All I can say is people, get yourself a living
will if that's what you want. Otherwise, others might presume
the right to put your loved ones through a
living hell when the time comes for those decisions to be made.
It sounds brutal, but I know my grandmother well enough to
know she'd rather starve to death than become a public
spectacle "opportunist magnet" like Terry Schiavo did.
My grandma was a deeply religious woman trapped in a loveless
marriage to a bitter and hate-filled man who - typical of
homosexuals of his generation - felt
compelled to marry a woman because it was "God's will". They
were both "trapped", not just her, by the circumstances of the
era into which they were born.
Uncle Larry, if you're out there and happen to be reading this
(I have reason to
suspect you might be), your mother is dying. I thought you
should know, and I
don't believe they know how to contact you. If you're not,
you'll find out the next time you get in touch with anyone back
in Jerome.
That's all. Thanks for reading.
Sorry to hear this. My condolences.
I hope this works out to the best as best it can.
--
The official spokesman of the Foxes said
today that investigation into what happened
to the henhouse may be needed.
Cheerful Charlie
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| User: "Douglas Berry" |
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12 Oct 2005 08:14:33 PM |
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What's so funny about peace, love and Uncle Buck
<UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> posting the following on Wed, 12 Oct 2005
18:57:39 -0400 iin alt.atheism?
My grandmother slipped into a coma over the weekend.
May she have an easy passing.
Condolences offered, if you like.
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Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5
"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.
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