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"quibbler" |
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29 Aug 2004 10:24:47 AM |
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Enormous Fucking Crucifix |
Most of the crucifixes I've seen are tiny little necklaces. But I saw a
woman the other day who was sporting a truly enormous one. It must have
been several pounds and almost a foot tall. It's possible that she was
a nun, though she wasn't in the traditional garb.
I commented to my brother, some distance away, "that crucifix is large
enough to kill Jesus a second time if he ever manages to come back". I
suspect that the cross ***** didn't hear me, but if she had it probably
only would have reinforced her smug and sanctimonious delusions. She's
sticking her religion out in everyone's face and probably hopes to catch
some abuse so she can revel in her martyrdom fantasies. At the same
time, she also lets other xians know that she considers herself at least
a few notches "holier" than they are.
Either way, I'm not sure the cross does her much good. Other than being
a several pound albatross around her neck and the philosophical
equivalent of a dunce cap, I'm not sure why such people feel the need
for jewelry that large. I mean, I guess in primitive cultures they do
wear those enormous earrings, exaggerated head gear, etc. But hopefully
we aren't devolving back into that with the steady drumbeat of religion.
BTW, as a side note, this wasn't just a large crucifix. It appeared to
have a silver finish with rhinestones down the middle. So if they did
crucify baby jesus on it, assuming that god knocks up some other
floozy, then he'd have to ascend all the way back to heaven with shards
of glass sticking in his butt and back. I'd probably rather have the
crown of thorns thing, all things considered, but then again, I don't
expect most xians to bother to think that far ahead.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "torch" |
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| Title: Re: Enormous Fucking Crucifix |
29 Aug 2004 02:44:58 PM |
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"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Most of the crucifixes I've seen are tiny little necklaces. But I saw a
woman the other day who was sporting a truly enormous one. It must have
been several pounds and almost a foot tall.
Perhaps it takes batteries
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| User: "Honus" |
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| Title: Re: Enormous Fucking Crucifix |
30 Aug 2004 04:00:36 AM |
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"torch" <torch@torch.com> wrote in message
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"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Most of the crucifixes I've seen are tiny little necklaces. But I saw a
woman the other day who was sporting a truly enormous one. It must have
been several pounds and almost a foot tall.
Perhaps it takes batteries
So it's a big *****, like in The Exorcist?
Remember that scene? "Let Jesus ***** you!"
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Enormous Fucking Crucifix |
29 Aug 2004 10:58:57 AM |
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"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Most of the crucifixes I've seen are tiny little necklaces. But I saw a
woman the other day who was sporting a truly enormous one. It must have
been several pounds and almost a foot tall. It's possible that she was
a nun, though she wasn't in the traditional garb.
I commented to my brother, some distance away, "that crucifix is large
enough to kill Jesus a second time if he ever manages to come back". I
suspect that the cross ***** didn't hear me, but if she had it probably
only would have reinforced her smug and sanctimonious delusions. She's
sticking her religion out in everyone's face and probably hopes to catch
some abuse so she can revel in her martyrdom fantasies. At the same
time, she also lets other xians know that she considers herself at least
a few notches "holier" than they are.
Either way, I'm not sure the cross does her much good. Other than being
a several pound albatross around her neck and the philosophical
equivalent of a dunce cap, I'm not sure why such people feel the need
for jewelry that large. I mean, I guess in primitive cultures they do
wear those enormous earrings, exaggerated head gear, etc. But hopefully
we aren't devolving back into that with the steady drumbeat of religion.
BTW, as a side note, this wasn't just a large crucifix. It appeared to
have a silver finish with rhinestones down the middle. So if they did
crucify baby jesus on it, assuming that god knocks up some other
floozy, then he'd have to ascend all the way back to heaven with shards
of glass sticking in his butt and back. I'd probably rather have the
crown of thorns thing, all things considered, but then again, I don't
expect most xians to bother to think that far ahead.
The idea of trying to make an instrument of torture and death pretty by the
inclusion of rhinestones is mind-shredding all by itself. The only time
that's effective is when you're TRYING to be ironic.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "kathryn" |
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| Title: Re: Enormous Fucking Crucifix |
29 Aug 2004 12:24:01 PM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Most of the crucifixes I've seen are tiny little necklaces. But I saw a
woman the other day who was sporting a truly enormous one. It must have
been several pounds and almost a foot tall. It's possible that she was
a nun, though she wasn't in the traditional garb.
I commented to my brother, some distance away, "that crucifix is large
enough to kill Jesus a second time if he ever manages to come back". I
suspect that the cross ***** didn't hear me, but if she had it probably
only would have reinforced her smug and sanctimonious delusions. She's
sticking her religion out in everyone's face and probably hopes to catch
some abuse so she can revel in her martyrdom fantasies. At the same
time, she also lets other xians know that she considers herself at least
a few notches "holier" than they are.
Either way, I'm not sure the cross does her much good. Other than being
a several pound albatross around her neck and the philosophical
equivalent of a dunce cap, I'm not sure why such people feel the need
for jewelry that large. I mean, I guess in primitive cultures they do
wear those enormous earrings, exaggerated head gear, etc. But hopefully
we aren't devolving back into that with the steady drumbeat of religion.
BTW, as a side note, this wasn't just a large crucifix. It appeared to
have a silver finish with rhinestones down the middle. So if they did
crucify baby jesus on it, assuming that god knocks up some other
floozy, then he'd have to ascend all the way back to heaven with shards
of glass sticking in his butt and back. I'd probably rather have the
crown of thorns thing, all things considered, but then again, I don't
expect most xians to bother to think that far ahead.
The idea of trying to make an instrument of torture and death pretty by
the
inclusion of rhinestones is mind-shredding all by itself. The only time
that's effective is when you're TRYING to be ironic.
--
Denis Loubet
That was one thing that got me about the passion of christ - all the
merchandising. Im pretty sure that if there were an actual "christian" god,
he'd be against merchandising. Actually he'd probably be against the movie
as well.
Saying that - crosses can be fashion accessories rather than a statement of
faith.
Kathryn
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| User: "jwk" |
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| Title: Re: Enormous Fucking Crucifix |
29 Aug 2004 05:37:49 PM |
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"kathryn" <bob@bob.com> wrote in message news:<cgt3fe$fv$1@hercules.btinternet.com>...
"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message
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"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Most of the crucifixes I've seen are tiny little necklaces. But I saw a
woman the other day who was sporting a truly enormous one. It must have
been several pounds and almost a foot tall. It's possible that she was
a nun, though she wasn't in the traditional garb.
I commented to my brother, some distance away, "that crucifix is large
enough to kill Jesus a second time if he ever manages to come back". I
suspect that the cross ***** didn't hear me, but if she had it probably
only would have reinforced her smug and sanctimonious delusions. She's
sticking her religion out in everyone's face and probably hopes to catch
some abuse so she can revel in her martyrdom fantasies. At the same
time, she also lets other xians know that she considers herself at least
a few notches "holier" than they are.
Either way, I'm not sure the cross does her much good. Other than being
a several pound albatross around her neck and the philosophical
equivalent of a dunce cap, I'm not sure why such people feel the need
for jewelry that large. I mean, I guess in primitive cultures they do
wear those enormous earrings, exaggerated head gear, etc. But hopefully
we aren't devolving back into that with the steady drumbeat of religion.
BTW, as a side note, this wasn't just a large crucifix. It appeared to
have a silver finish with rhinestones down the middle. So if they did
crucify baby jesus on it, assuming that god knocks up some other
floozy, then he'd have to ascend all the way back to heaven with shards
of glass sticking in his butt and back. I'd probably rather have the
crown of thorns thing, all things considered, but then again, I don't
expect most xians to bother to think that far ahead.
The idea of trying to make an instrument of torture and death pretty by
the
inclusion of rhinestones is mind-shredding all by itself. The only time
that's effective is when you're TRYING to be ironic.
--
Denis Loubet
That was one thing that got me about the passion of christ - all the
merchandising. Im pretty sure that if there were an actual "christian" god,
he'd be against merchandising. Actually he'd probably be against the movie
as well.
Saying that - crosses can be fashion accessories rather than a statement of
faith.
Kathryn
No, it cannot.
jwk
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: Enormous Fucking Crucifix |
29 Aug 2004 05:58:35 PM |
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"jwk" <jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Saying that - crosses can be fashion accessories rather than a statement
of
faith.
Kathryn
No, it cannot.
Tell that to Madonna or whatever the ***** she calls herself now.
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| User: "jwk" |
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30 Aug 2004 01:23:06 PM |
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"Geoff" <gebobs@yahoo.nospam.com> wrote in message news:<vctYc.337576$%_6.263225@attbi_s01>...
"jwk" <jwkinraleigh@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Saying that - crosses can be fashion accessories rather than a statement
of
faith.
Kathryn
No, it cannot.
Tell that to Madonna or whatever the ***** she calls herself now.
What I objected to was the "rather than" in that statement. Sure it can be both.
jwk
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| User: "anne marie hovgaard" |
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30 Aug 2004 08:18:23 AM |
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"Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote in message news:<FeKdnVUB5eRbYazcRVn-pA@io.com>...
"quibbler" <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1b9ba32e5d71aa4b9898ce@news.individual.net...
Most of the crucifixes I've seen are tiny little necklaces. But I saw a
woman the other day who was sporting a truly enormous one. It must have
been several pounds and almost a foot tall. It's possible that she was
a nun, though she wasn't in the traditional garb.
I commented to my brother, some distance away, "that crucifix is large
enough to kill Jesus a second time if he ever manages to come back". I
suspect that the cross ***** didn't hear me, but if she had it probably
only would have reinforced her smug and sanctimonious delusions. She's
sticking her religion out in everyone's face and probably hopes to catch
some abuse so she can revel in her martyrdom fantasies. At the same
time, she also lets other xians know that she considers herself at least
a few notches "holier" than they are.
Either way, I'm not sure the cross does her much good. Other than being
a several pound albatross around her neck and the philosophical
equivalent of a dunce cap, I'm not sure why such people feel the need
for jewelry that large. I mean, I guess in primitive cultures they do
wear those enormous earrings, exaggerated head gear, etc. But hopefully
we aren't devolving back into that with the steady drumbeat of religion.
BTW, as a side note, this wasn't just a large crucifix. It appeared to
have a silver finish with rhinestones down the middle. So if they did
crucify baby jesus on it, assuming that god knocks up some other
floozy, then he'd have to ascend all the way back to heaven with shards
of glass sticking in his butt and back. I'd probably rather have the
crown of thorns thing, all things considered, but then again, I don't
expect most xians to bother to think that far ahead.
The idea of trying to make an instrument of torture and death pretty by the
inclusion of rhinestones is mind-shredding all by itself. The only time
that's effective is when you're TRYING to be ironic.
I sometimes wear a crucifix when I go to goth clubs, and I love
explaining to people that to me this is not a religious symbol, but an
instrument of torture ;) And if they don't understand what I mean I'm
quite willing to demonstrate, if they'll promise to hold still while
the nails go in...
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| User: "BMR" |
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30 Aug 2004 09:09:09 AM |
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"anne marie hovgaard" <amhovgaard@yahoo.no> ha scritto nel messaggio
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I sometimes wear a crucifix when I go to goth clubs, and I love
explaining to people that to me this is not a religious symbol, but an
instrument of torture ;)
People don't understand that anything, superstitions included, perpetuates
through symbols. The case we got here in Italy, in the town of Ofena, shows
it all. But differently from other "spiritual totems", church needs those
symbols to subliminally impress the fable of "Jesus" (and his pain) over and
over even in the minds of whom are keen to believe not in christianism. This
is just a paradigm of promotion.
--
B. Catalano
www.alexamenos.com
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| User: "anne marie hovgaard" |
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31 Aug 2004 06:28:56 AM |
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"BMR" <blocktrap@alexamenos.com> wrote in message news:<9yGYc.170059$OR2.8039086@news3.tin.it>...
"anne marie hovgaard" <amhovgaard@yahoo.no> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:705782b9.0408300518.69fdb1c4@posting.google.com...
I sometimes wear a crucifix when I go to goth clubs, and I love
explaining to people that to me this is not a religious symbol, but an
instrument of torture ;)
People don't understand that anything, superstitions included, perpetuates
through symbols. The case we got here in Italy, in the town of Ofena, shows
it all. But differently from other "spiritual totems", church needs those
symbols to subliminally impress the fable of "Jesus" (and his pain) over and
over even in the minds of whom are keen to believe not in christianism. This
is just a paradigm of promotion.
....and that's why it's fun to point out to Christians the S/M
connotations of their obsession with this practically-naked, tortured,
bleeding male body suspended from a cross by nails driven through his
hands and feet. Symbols typically have multiple meanings, and this one
is no exception.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Enormous Fucking Crucifix |
29 Aug 2004 03:08:45 PM |
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 10:58:57 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
The idea of trying to make an instrument of torture and death pretty by the
inclusion of rhinestones is mind-shredding all by itself. The only time
that's effective is when you're TRYING to be ironic.
You're as all wet as quib.
It's not worn as an instrument of torture and death, but of honor for one man giving the
greatest thing he can for another man - his life. Thank you Jesus.
I suspect you two try to put your shoes on your ears in the morning.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "BMR" |
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29 Aug 2004 06:43:11 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> ha scritto nel messaggio
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It's not worn as an instrument of torture and death, but of honor for one
man giving the
greatest thing he can for another man - his life. Thank you Jesus.
<snip all the remainder>
And infacts, it is not just an "instrument of death"... it is a *roman*
instrument of death used to punish a political rebel who was afterward
transformed into a "savior of mankind" by his very killers
--
B. Catalano
www.alexamenos.com
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| User: "Honus" |
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30 Aug 2004 04:03:42 AM |
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"BMR" <blocktrap@alexamenos.com> wrote in message
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> ha scritto nel messaggio
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It's not worn as an instrument of torture and death, but of honor for
one
man giving the
greatest thing he can for another man - his life. Thank you Jesus.
<snip all the remainder>
And infacts, it is not just an "instrument of death"... it is a *roman*
instrument of death used to punish a political rebel who was afterward
transformed into a "savior of mankind" by his very killers
Since it's a Roman instrument of death, that means that it's the Romans that
killed him. (Anti-Semites, take note.) His killers didn't turn him into the
savior of mankind; they just executed a rebel.
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| User: "BMR" |
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30 Aug 2004 08:56:52 AM |
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"Honus" <honus1@earthlink.net.is.invalid> ha scritto nel messaggio
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Since it's a Roman instrument of death, that means that it's the Romans
that
killed him. (Anti-Semites, take note.) His killers didn't turn him into
the
savior of mankind; they just executed a rebel.
The "partnership" between the romans of Pilate's circle (and of many other
prefects who ruled the Celesiria duringe that timeframe) is undoubtful;
Talmud laments often the corruption of Haifa and his kinsmen. But priests
had to safeguard just their mundane interests against many preachers who has
been presented as "messiahs" from the Maccabeans' times 'til Bar Kokab's
revolt, whom will be joined to form a unique figure called "Jesus"; so they
are partly excused, though aren't to be blamed for a "sacrifice".
Infacts, if you mind, the handwashing of Pilate is nothing but the very
formula of a sacrifier who is near to accomply a sacrifice (s. Deuteronomy),
repeated in the circumstances of the sacrifice of Azazel's scapegoat; the
same as for the "that his blood shall be upon us and our childs". These was
ritual formulas for sacrifice. Definitively, the gospels' "passion" got no
historical ground whatsoever.
http://www.alexamenos.com/index.php?itemid=86
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B. Catalano
www.alexamenos.com
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| User: "duke" |
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30 Aug 2004 05:09:57 AM |
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 23:43:11 GMT, "BMR" <blocktrap@alexamenos.com> wrote:
And infacts, it is not just an "instrument of death"... it is a *roman*
instrument of death used to punish a political rebel who was afterward
transformed into a "savior of mankind" by his very killers
Thank you, Jesus.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "BMR" |
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30 Aug 2004 08:56:58 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> ha scritto nel messaggio
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Thank you, Jesus.
You'd rather ought to say, thank you "Pilate", instead.
--
B. Catalano
www.alexamenos.com
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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31 Aug 2004 12:31:34 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 23:43:11 GMT, "BMR" <blocktrap@alexamenos.com> wrote:
And infacts, it is not just an "instrument of death"... it is a *roman*
instrument of death used to punish a political rebel who was afterward
transformed into a "savior of mankind" by his very killers
Thank you, Jesus.
No, you should thank the Romans, they killed Jesus so you wouldn't have to.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "JessHC" |
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30 Aug 2004 10:03:35 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<r6v5j05l6dl6refi2mjeoreg4l1kvbmk15@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 23:43:11 GMT, "BMR" <blocktrap@alexamenos.com> wrote:
And infacts, it is not just an "instrument of death"... it is a *roman*
instrument of death used to punish a political rebel who was afterward
transformed into a "savior of mankind" by his very killers
Thank you, Jesus.
Yes, thank you for threatening us with eternal torture unless we
worship you for forgiving us for being how you made us.
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| User: "Jez" |
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30 Aug 2004 08:00:33 AM |
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 23:43:11 GMT, "BMR" <blocktrap@alexamenos.com> wrote:
And infacts, it is not just an "instrument of death"... it is a *roman*
instrument of death used to punish a political rebel who was afterward
transformed into a "savior of mankind" by his very killers
Thank you, Jesus.
For what ? Fucking up our civilization for 2000 years or so ?
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
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| User: "Dale" |
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30 Aug 2004 10:57:33 AM |
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"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 23:43:11 GMT, "BMR" <blocktrap@alexamenos.com>
wrote:
And infacts, it is not just an "instrument of death"... it is a *roman*
instrument of death used to punish a political rebel who was afterward
transformed into a "savior of mankind" by his very killers
Thank you, Jesus.
For what ? Fucking up our civilization for 2000 years or so ?
Hmmm...I don't know about that. What exactly do you think "our" civilisation
would have been like without christianity? Anyway, it probably saved us from
Islam!
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| User: "Jez" |
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31 Aug 2004 06:58:20 AM |
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Dale wrote:
"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 23:43:11 GMT, "BMR" <blocktrap@alexamenos.com>
wrote:
And infacts, it is not just an "instrument of death"... it is a *roman*
instrument of death used to punish a political rebel who was afterward
transformed into a "savior of mankind" by his very killers
Thank you, Jesus.
For what ? Fucking up our civilization for 2000 years or so ?
Hmmm...I don't know about that. What exactly do you think "our" civilisation
would have been like without christianity?
None of the repression that came from things like 'The divine right of
kings' would have occured,
Perhaps even the peasants would have been allowed to read and
right...bringing knowledge to people a lot sooner...
Gawd.....the list goes on and on !!
Anyway, it probably saved us from
Islam!
Would you rather be eaten by a Wolf or a Lion ? Does it matter ?
You'd still be eaten.
--
Jez
"The condition of alienation, of being asleep, of being unconscious,
of being out of one's mind, is the condition of the normal man. Society
highly values its normal man.It educates children to lose themselves
and to become absurd,and thus to be normal. Normal men have killed
perhaps 100,000,000 of their fellow normal men in the last fifty years."
R.D. Laing
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon" |
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| Title: Re: Enormous Fucking Crucifix |
31 Aug 2004 09:34:56 PM |
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Jez <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in
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Dale wrote:
"Jez" <iced_spear@NOSPAMdsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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duke wrote:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 23:43:11 GMT, "BMR" <blocktrap@alexamenos.com>
wrote:
And infacts, it is not just an "instrument of death"... it is a
*roman* instrument of death used to punish a political rebel who
was afterward transformed into a "savior of mankind" by his very
killers
Thank you, Jesus.
For what ? Fucking up our civilization for 2000 years or so ?
Hmmm...I don't know about that. What exactly do you think "our"
civilisation would have been like without christianity?
None of the repression that came from things like 'The divine right of
kings' would have occured,
Well that isn't exclusive to Christianity. Egyptian Pharoah, Japanese
emperor etc.
Perhaps even the peasants would have been allowed to read and
right...bringing knowledge to people a lot sooner...
Gawd.....the list goes on and on !!
It would be an interesting 'what if' supposing Constantine had not
decreed Christianity to be the state religion of the empire. Doesn't
necessarily mean things would have turned out any better though. There
would still have been plenty on scam artists around, ready and willing to
fleece the gullible.
Anyway, it probably saved us from
Islam!
Would you rather be eaten by a Wolf or a Lion ? Does it matter ?
You'd still be eaten.
Good point.
LK.
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Enormous Fucking Crucifix |
29 Aug 2004 07:05:05 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 10:58:57 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
The idea of trying to make an instrument of torture and death pretty by
the
inclusion of rhinestones is mind-shredding all by itself. The only time
that's effective is when you're TRYING to be ironic.
You're as all wet as quib.
It's not worn as an instrument of torture and death, but of honor for one
man giving the
greatest thing he can for another man - his life. Thank you Jesus.
And the insults you offer us "honor" him too, I suppose.
I suspect you two try to put your shoes on your ears in the morning.
Well, now we know what Jesus would do: he'd offer lame insults.
Thanks Duke.
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Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Enormous Fucking Crucifix |
30 Aug 2004 05:11:14 AM |
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 19:05:05 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
It's not worn as an instrument of torture and death, but of honor for one
man giving the
greatest thing he can for another man - his life. Thank you Jesus.
And the insults you offer us "honor" him too, I suppose.
That you don't understand the greatest gift of one man for another is your problem to live
with, not me.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "BMR" |
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| Title: Re: Enormous Fucking Crucifix |
30 Aug 2004 09:04:33 AM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> ha scritto nel messaggio
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That you don't understand the greatest gift of one man for another is your
problem to live
with, not me.
So, why you came to bother here, if to be happy with that is just a issue of
yours? Can't you see that if you see that, you seem nothing but the classic
parrot feeling imbued of a "divine mission"?
Those "didascalic" fables are not new at all: we got many of them way before
the greek mythologists, from Heracles and Alkestis to Tammuz and Ishtar. You
are just nasty pawns working for money fleechers grown upon redundant
fraudhood.
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B. Catalano
www.alexamenos.com
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Enormous Fucking Crucifix |
30 Aug 2004 12:21:03 PM |
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"duke" <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 19:05:05 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
It's not worn as an instrument of torture and death, but of honor for
one
man giving the
greatest thing he can for another man - his life. Thank you Jesus.
And the insults you offer us "honor" him too, I suppose.
That you don't understand the greatest gift of one man for another is your
problem to live
with, not me.
Can't answer the question, can you? Do your insults honor Jesus?
Do they?
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "JessHC" |
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| Title: Re: Enormous Fucking Crucifix |
30 Aug 2004 10:01:08 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<08v5j0lhi5rornp8f0bbuvm99be0mqjt27@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 19:05:05 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
It's not worn as an instrument of torture and death, but of honor for one
man giving the
greatest thing he can for another man - his life. Thank you Jesus.
And the insults you offer us "honor" him too, I suppose.
That you don't understand the greatest gift of one man for another is your problem to live
with, not me.
Does that mean you're going to lay down your life for us? Or do you
consider your obnoxious insults and unwanted prattling "gifts"?
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Enormous Fucking Crucifix |
30 Aug 2004 03:00:35 AM |
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 15:08:45 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 10:58:57 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
The idea of trying to make an instrument of torture and death pretty by the
inclusion of rhinestones is mind-shredding all by itself. The only time
that's effective is when you're TRYING to be ironic.
You're as all wet as quib.
It's not worn as an instrument of torture and death, but of honor for one man giving the
greatest thing he can for another man - his life. Thank you Jesus.
I suspect you two try to put your shoes on your ears in the morning.
Throw down the shoes, and follow the holy gourd!
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| User: "Alan Hobson" |
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| Title: Re: Enormous Fucking Crucifix |
30 Aug 2004 12:12:36 AM |
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message news:<7qd4j0hqjqib633sngk88tmen847qfqfkc@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 10:58:57 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
The idea of trying to make an instrument of torture and death pretty by the
inclusion of rhinestones is mind-shredding all by itself. The only time
that's effective is when you're TRYING to be ironic.
You're as all wet as quib.
It's not worn as an instrument of torture and death, but of honor for one man giving the
greatest thing he can for another man - his life. Thank you Jesus.
So a great fan of Abe Lincoln could honor him by wearing a Derringer
around his neck? He gave his life for his country. "Thank you Abe"
-Alan
aa#1608
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| User: "Dale" |
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| Title: Re: Enormous Fucking Crucifix |
30 Aug 2004 10:52:50 AM |
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"Alan Hobson" <alhob@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 10:58:57 -0500, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com>
wrote:
The idea of trying to make an instrument of torture and death pretty by
the
inclusion of rhinestones is mind-shredding all by itself. The only time
that's effective is when you're TRYING to be ironic.
You're as all wet as quib.
It's not worn as an instrument of torture and death, but of honor for
one man giving the
greatest thing he can for another man - his life. Thank you Jesus.
So a great fan of Abe Lincoln could honor him by wearing a Derringer
around his neck? He gave his life for his country. "Thank you Abe"
Actually, many religious nuts think Abe was Satan personified because he
trampled on the Constitution and plunged the nation into Civil War.
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