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"Eris" |
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07 Sep 2007 04:24:30 PM |
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Enuff already end the damn Korean war |
Bring our boys home
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
Praise Jesus!!!
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07 Sep 2007 05:01:31 PM |
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"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189200270.861606.219750@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Bring our boys home
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
Praise Jesus!!!
This post shows how narrow minded and stupid the left is. The United
Nations and North Korea are the only one who can end the war. The United
Nations called it a police action and over 25 countries sent troops to
Korea.
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| User: "La N" |
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07 Sep 2007 05:21:28 PM |
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"Jack Granade" <jgranade@pioneernet.net> wrote in message
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"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189200270.861606.219750@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Bring our boys home
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
Praise Jesus!!!
This post shows how narrow minded and stupid the left is. The United
Nations and North Korea are the only one who can end the war. The United
Nations called it a police action and over 25 countries sent troops to
Korea.
In Bush's defence (holy cow!), I thought the President of Korea acted very
immaturely. He was definitely putting on a show for the home audience.
And, that is right ... only the UN and NK can end the war. I think the
Korean President was thinking that he could pressure GWB to pressure the UN.
- nilita (and I guess I could be considered part of "the left")
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| User: "Nigel Brooks" |
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| Title: Re: Enuff already end the damn Korean war |
07 Sep 2007 05:25:20 PM |
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"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189200270.861606.219750@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Bring our boys home
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
Praise Jesus!!!
You mean snotty like this?
During a photo opportunity with the two leaders, Bush said that during his
talks with Roh, he had reaffirmed the U.S. position that when North Korean
leader Kim Jong Il dismantles his nuclear program, the United States would
formally end the Korean War.
As cameras clicked, Roh listened to the translation and responded that he
"did not hear President Bush mention the - a declaration to end the Korean
War just now."
Bush said he thought he was being clear, but obliged Roh and restated the
U.S. position.
That wasn't good enough either. "If you could be a little bit clearer in
your message," Roh said.
Bush, looking irritated, replied: "I can't make it any more clear, Mr.
President. We look forward to the day when we can end the Korean War. That
will end - will happen when Kim verifiably gets rid of his weapons programs
and his weapons."
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14232535
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Nigel Brooks
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| User: "Eris" |
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08 Sep 2007 10:03:36 AM |
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On Sep 7, 6:25 pm, "Nigel Brooks" <nbro...@msn.com> wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189200270.861606.219750@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Bring our boys home
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
Praise Jesus!!!
You mean snotty like this?
During a photo opportunity with the two leaders, Bush said that during his
talks with Roh, he had reaffirmed the U.S. position that when North Korean
leader Kim Jong Il dismantles his nuclear program, the United States would
formally end the Korean War.
As cameras clicked, Roh listened to the translation and responded that he
"did not hear President Bush mention the - a declaration to end the Korean
War just now."
Bush said he thought he was being clear, but obliged Roh and restated the
U.S. position.
That wasn't good enough either. "If you could be a little bit clearer in
your message," Roh said.
Bush, looking irritated, replied: "I can't make it any more clear, Mr.
President. We look forward to the day when we can end the Korean War. That
will end - will happen when Kim verifiably gets rid of his weapons programs
and his weapons."
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14232535
--
Nigel Brooks
Exactly, and then the Bush staff blamed it on the interpreter.
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| User: "La N" |
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08 Sep 2007 10:10:51 AM |
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"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189263816.739991.234400@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 7, 6:25 pm, "Nigel Brooks" <nbro...@msn.com> wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189200270.861606.219750@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Bring our boys home
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
Praise Jesus!!!
You mean snotty like this?
During a photo opportunity with the two leaders, Bush said that during
his
talks with Roh, he had reaffirmed the U.S. position that when North
Korean
leader Kim Jong Il dismantles his nuclear program, the United States
would
formally end the Korean War.
As cameras clicked, Roh listened to the translation and responded that he
"did not hear President Bush mention the - a declaration to end the
Korean
War just now."
Bush said he thought he was being clear, but obliged Roh and restated the
U.S. position.
That wasn't good enough either. "If you could be a little bit clearer in
your message," Roh said.
Bush, looking irritated, replied: "I can't make it any more clear, Mr.
President. We look forward to the day when we can end the Korean War.
That
will end - will happen when Kim verifiably gets rid of his weapons
programs
and his weapons."
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14232535
--
Nigel Brooks
Exactly, and then the Bush staff blamed it on the interpreter.
Jayzus Murphy. Some of your assertions make me want to stand up for Bush.
What the staff on both sides - Korea and the U.S. - were doing was to
soften the discomfort felt by all, by saying that there was something lost
in translation. Even a lot of the so-called "liberal media" pundits thought
that what the S. Korean President said/did was out of place.
- nilita
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| User: "Eris" |
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08 Sep 2007 10:29:41 AM |
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On Sep 8, 11:10 am, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189263816.739991.234400@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 7, 6:25 pm, "Nigel Brooks" <nbro...@msn.com> wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189200270.861606.219750@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Bring our boys home
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
Praise Jesus!!!
You mean snotty like this?
During a photo opportunity with the two leaders, Bush said that during
his
talks with Roh, he had reaffirmed the U.S. position that when North
Korean
leader Kim Jong Il dismantles his nuclear program, the United States
would
formally end the Korean War.
As cameras clicked, Roh listened to the translation and responded that he
"did not hear President Bush mention the - a declaration to end the
Korean
War just now."
Bush said he thought he was being clear, but obliged Roh and restated the
U.S. position.
That wasn't good enough either. "If you could be a little bit clearer in
your message," Roh said.
Bush, looking irritated, replied: "I can't make it any more clear, Mr.
President. We look forward to the day when we can end the Korean War.
That
will end - will happen when Kim verifiably gets rid of his weapons
programs
and his weapons."
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14232535
--
Nigel Brooks
Exactly, and then the Bush staff blamed it on the interpreter.
Jayzus Murphy. Some of your assertions make me want to stand up for Bush.
What the staff on both sides - Korea and the U.S. - were doing was to
soften the discomfort felt by all, by saying that there was something lost
in translation. Even a lot of the so-called "liberal media" pundits thought
that what the S. Korean President said/did was out of place.
- nilita
Our local paper didn't and I live in the Bible belt.
Remember I am only as good as my sources:-)
Actually I was quite surprised that the war had not ended.
Remember the Tom Leher song
Who's Next?
First we got the bomb, and that was good,
'Cause we love peace and motherhood.
Then Russia got the bomb, but that's okay,
'Cause the balance of power's maintained that way.
Who's next?
France got the bomb, but don't you grieve,
'Cause they're on our side (I believe).
China got the bomb, but have no fears,
They can't wipe us out for at least five years.
Who's next?
Then Indonesia claimed that they
Were gonna get one any day.
South Africa wants two, that's right:
One for the black and one for the white.
Who's next?
Egypt's gonna get one too,
Just to use on you know who.
So Israel's getting tense.
Wants one in self defense.
"The Lord's our shepherd," says the psalm,
But just in case, we better get a bomb.
Who's next?
Luxembourg is next to go,
And (who knows?) maybe Monaco.
We'll try to stay serene and calm
When Alabama gets the bomb.
Who's next?
Who's next?
Who's next?
Who's next?
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| User: "BigRedWingsFan" |
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| Title: Re: Enuff already end the damn Korean war |
08 Sep 2007 02:08:00 PM |
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"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189265381.195012.139920@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 8, 11:10 am, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189263816.739991.234400@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 7, 6:25 pm, "Nigel Brooks" <nbro...@msn.com> wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189200270.861606.219750@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Bring our boys home
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end
the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
Praise Jesus!!!
You mean snotty like this?
During a photo opportunity with the two leaders, Bush said that during
his
talks with Roh, he had reaffirmed the U.S. position that when North
Korean
leader Kim Jong Il dismantles his nuclear program, the United States
would
formally end the Korean War.
As cameras clicked, Roh listened to the translation and responded that
he
"did not hear President Bush mention the - a declaration to end the
Korean
War just now."
Bush said he thought he was being clear, but obliged Roh and restated
the
U.S. position.
That wasn't good enough either. "If you could be a little bit clearer
in
your message," Roh said.
Bush, looking irritated, replied: "I can't make it any more clear, Mr.
President. We look forward to the day when we can end the Korean War.
That
will end - will happen when Kim verifiably gets rid of his weapons
programs
and his weapons."
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14232535
--
Nigel Brooks
Exactly, and then the Bush staff blamed it on the interpreter.
Jayzus Murphy. Some of your assertions make me want to stand up for
Bush.
What the staff on both sides - Korea and the U.S. - were doing was to
soften the discomfort felt by all, by saying that there was something
lost
in translation. Even a lot of the so-called "liberal media" pundits
thought
that what the S. Korean President said/did was out of place.
- nilita
Our local paper didn't and I live in the Bible belt.
Flint, MI is nowhere near the Bible Belt.
Remember I am only as good as my sources:-)
Try reading one of those newspapers you take out of the trash at the Bishop
Airport to use as a blanket, you might learn something.
Actually I was quite surprised that the war had not ended.
Governess Granholm would be proud of you.
Remember the Tom Leher song
Who's Next?
First we got the bomb, and that was good,
'Cause we love peace and motherhood.
Then Russia got the bomb, but that's okay,
'Cause the balance of power's maintained that way.
Who's next?
France got the bomb, but don't you grieve,
'Cause they're on our side (I believe).
China got the bomb, but have no fears,
They can't wipe us out for at least five years.
Who's next?
Then Indonesia claimed that they
Were gonna get one any day.
South Africa wants two, that's right:
One for the black and one for the white.
Who's next?
Egypt's gonna get one too,
Just to use on you know who.
So Israel's getting tense.
Wants one in self defense.
"The Lord's our shepherd," says the psalm,
But just in case, we better get a bomb.
Who's next?
Luxembourg is next to go,
And (who knows?) maybe Monaco.
We'll try to stay serene and calm
When Alabama gets the bomb.
Who's next?
Who's next?
Who's next?
Who's next?
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| User: "La N" |
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08 Sep 2007 10:36:31 AM |
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"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189265381.195012.139920@57g2000hsv.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 8, 11:10 am, "La N" <nilita2004NOS...@yahoo.com> wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189263816.739991.234400@y42g2000hsy.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 7, 6:25 pm, "Nigel Brooks" <nbro...@msn.com> wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1189200270.861606.219750@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
Bring our boys home
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end
the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
Praise Jesus!!!
You mean snotty like this?
During a photo opportunity with the two leaders, Bush said that during
his
talks with Roh, he had reaffirmed the U.S. position that when North
Korean
leader Kim Jong Il dismantles his nuclear program, the United States
would
formally end the Korean War.
As cameras clicked, Roh listened to the translation and responded that
he
"did not hear President Bush mention the - a declaration to end the
Korean
War just now."
Bush said he thought he was being clear, but obliged Roh and restated
the
U.S. position.
That wasn't good enough either. "If you could be a little bit clearer
in
your message," Roh said.
Bush, looking irritated, replied: "I can't make it any more clear, Mr.
President. We look forward to the day when we can end the Korean War.
That
will end - will happen when Kim verifiably gets rid of his weapons
programs
and his weapons."
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=14232535
--
Nigel Brooks
Exactly, and then the Bush staff blamed it on the interpreter.
Jayzus Murphy. Some of your assertions make me want to stand up for
Bush.
What the staff on both sides - Korea and the U.S. - were doing was to
soften the discomfort felt by all, by saying that there was something
lost
in translation. Even a lot of the so-called "liberal media" pundits
thought
that what the S. Korean President said/did was out of place.
- nilita
Our local paper didn't and I live in the Bible belt.
Remember I am only as good as my sources:-)
Actually I was quite surprised that the war had not ended.
Remember the Tom Leher song
Who's Next?
First we got the bomb, and that was good,
'Cause we love peace and motherhood.
Then Russia got the bomb, but that's okay,
'Cause the balance of power's maintained that way.
Who's next?
France got the bomb, but don't you grieve,
'Cause they're on our side (I believe).
China got the bomb, but have no fears,
They can't wipe us out for at least five years.
Who's next?
Then Indonesia claimed that they
Were gonna get one any day.
South Africa wants two, that's right:
One for the black and one for the white.
Who's next?
Egypt's gonna get one too,
Just to use on you know who.
So Israel's getting tense.
Wants one in self defense.
"The Lord's our shepherd," says the psalm,
But just in case, we better get a bomb.
Who's next?
Luxembourg is next to go,
And (who knows?) maybe Monaco.
We'll try to stay serene and calm
When Alabama gets the bomb.
Who's next?
Who's next?
Who's next?
Who's next?
Yeah, I remember that song.
And btw, last night I was reading the MySpace of a former Marine in Vietnam
now living in El-Ay. He still has great memories of his days as a Marine
(medic) but not of war. He got me re-listening to Phil Ochs - rather,
looking at / listening to the late Phil Ochs on YouTube.
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| User: "Horvath" |
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07 Sep 2007 05:53:04 PM |
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:24:30 -0700, Eris <vithant@gmail.com> wrote
this crap:
Bring our boys home
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
Yeah. Clinton would have asked for a ***** first.
My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
ultimate power in the universe."
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| User: "BigRedWingsFan" |
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| Title: Re: Enuff already end the damn Korean war |
07 Sep 2007 07:03:51 PM |
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"Horvath" <Horvath@Horvath.nossepam.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:24:30 -0700, Eris <vithant@gmail.com> wrote
this crap:
Bring our boys home
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
Yeah. Clinton would have asked for a ***** first.
ErrAss would've obliged him too.
Horvath@Horvath.net
My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
ultimate power in the universe."
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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07 Sep 2007 07:51:29 PM |
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:24:30 -0700, Eris <vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
Bring our boys home
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
There are 7 year olds who could teach him things.
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| User: "The Cunning Linguist" |
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| Title: Re: Enuff already end the damn Korean war |
07 Sep 2007 08:42:00 PM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:1gs3e31tci8ftdbmbsgpeta7c1tdcfk9eh@4ax.com...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:24:30 -0700, Eris <vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
Bring our boys home
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
There are 7 year olds who could teach him things.
The settlement of the Korean War is a UN thing, not US.
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| User: "The Wolf With the Red Roses" |
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| Title: Re: Enuff already end the damn Korean war |
08 Sep 2007 12:45:09 PM |
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 01:42:00 GMT, "The Cunning Linguist"
<thinhthi@pacbell.net> wrote something wonderfully witty:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:1gs3e31tci8ftdbmbsgpeta7c1tdcfk9eh@4ax.com...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:24:30 -0700, Eris <vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
Bring our boys home
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
There are 7 year olds who could teach him things.
The settlement of the Korean War is a UN thing, not US.
While that maybe true, personally I think its a Korean thing. If the
South Korean Prez wants the War over & done, he needs to cut a deal
with the North & tell the UN to *****-off.
However, that would put the whole issue in his lap now wouldn't it?
--
"Some try to tell me, thoughts they cannot defend,
Just what you want to be, you will be in the end." -- Moody Blues
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| User: "Colin Campbell remove underscore" |
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08 Sep 2007 11:28:32 PM |
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 13:45:09 -0400, The Wolf With the Red Roses
<after-dark-arms@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 01:42:00 GMT, "The Cunning Linguist"
<thinhthi@pacbell.net> wrote something wonderfully witty:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:1gs3e31tci8ftdbmbsgpeta7c1tdcfk9eh@4ax.com...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:24:30 -0700, Eris <vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
Bring our boys home
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
There are 7 year olds who could teach him things.
The settlement of the Korean War is a UN thing, not US.
While that maybe true, personally I think its a Korean thing. If the
South Korean Prez wants the War over & done, he needs to cut a deal
with the North & tell the UN to *****-off.
He cannot do this because the North Koreans refuse to negotiate with
South Korea.
--
There can be no triumph without loss.
No victory without suffering.
No freedom without sacrifice.
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| User: "i2p6 west" |
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08 Sep 2007 11:59:02 PM |
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Colin Campbell wrote:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 13:45:09 -0400, The Wolf With the Red Roses
<after-dark-arms@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 01:42:00 GMT, "The Cunning Linguist"
<thinhthi@pacbell.net> wrote something wonderfully witty:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:1gs3e31tci8ftdbmbsgpeta7c1tdcfk9eh@4ax.com...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:24:30 -0700, Eris <vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
Bring our boys home
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
There are 7 year olds who could teach him things.
The settlement of the Korean War is a UN thing, not US.
While that maybe true, personally I think its a Korean thing. If the
South Korean Prez wants the War over & done, he needs to cut a deal
with the North & tell the UN to *****-off.
He cannot do this because the North Koreans refuse to negotiate with
South Korea.
Ha Ha Ha!!!
What, they want the war declared over, but will never talk to South Korea?
Got damn! Campbell you are one dumb *****.
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| User: "Horvath" |
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09 Sep 2007 07:11:58 AM |
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 21:59:02 -0700, i2p6 west <i2p6west@nospam.com>
wrote this crap:
He cannot do this because the North Koreans refuse to negotiate with
South Korea.
Ha Ha Ha!!!
What, they want the war declared over, but will never talk to South Korea?
Got damn! Campbell you are one dumb *****.
Actually, he's right, you dumbass.
My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
ultimate power in the universe."
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| User: "The Cunning Linguist" |
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09 Sep 2007 10:59:18 AM |
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"Horvath" <Horvath@Horvath.nossepam.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 21:59:02 -0700, i2p6 west <i2p6west@nospam.com>
wrote this crap:
He cannot do this because the North Koreans refuse to negotiate with
South Korea.
Ha Ha Ha!!!
What, they want the war declared over, but will never talk to South Korea?
Got damn! Campbell you are one dumb *****.
Actually, he's right, you dumbass.
The South Korean president might live to regret his question. There's no
way the US will return if the UN just calls it over and the US leaves.
Personally, I think the US should have left long, long ago and let nature
take its course.
Horvath@Horvath.net
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09 Sep 2007 11:21:14 AM |
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 21:28:32 -0700, Colin Campbell
<activated_95b@gmail.com (remove underscore)> wrote something
wonderfully witty:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 13:45:09 -0400, The Wolf With the Red Roses
<after-dark-arms@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 01:42:00 GMT, "The Cunning Linguist"
<thinhthi@pacbell.net> wrote something wonderfully witty:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:1gs3e31tci8ftdbmbsgpeta7c1tdcfk9eh@4ax.com...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:24:30 -0700, Eris <vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
Bring our boys home
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
There are 7 year olds who could teach him things.
The settlement of the Korean War is a UN thing, not US.
While that maybe true, personally I think its a Korean thing. If the
South Korean Prez wants the War over & done, he needs to cut a deal
with the North & tell the UN to *****-off.
He cannot do this because the North Koreans refuse to negotiate with
South Korea.
And we refuse to even talk to the North, let alone negotiate. At
least the South does talk to the North, even if it isn't specifically
about "ending the war" which is only a paperwork exercise anyways.
Roh Moo Hyun was elected on a platform that is very much
Anti-American. After decades of the South Koreans putting up with the
debauchery of American GI's, and the fact that until just fairly
recently they weren't even in charge of their own military, I'm not
surprised that many Korean's want us out, along with blame us for the
poor relations with their other half.
Many Koreans see the unification of Germany and the restoration of the
Eastern Block Countries to be a signal that it can be accomplished on
the peninsula as well. They see the US as the biggest impediment to
that.
Now all that being said from the Korean perspective, it is my
perspective that Bush's policy of "Not Talking" doesn't really get us
anywhere with anybody. However, when I was stationed in Korea
multiple times through the 70's, 80' & 90's, I often got the feeling
that our troops were there to stop the South from invading the North,
not the other way around. Now of course that was under Conservative
Korean leadership, this new batch of leaders (many who were locked up
under the old regimes) seem to be on occasion, agent provocateurs of
the North.
--
"Some try to tell me, thoughts they cannot defend,
Just what you want to be, you will be in the end." -- Moody Blues
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09 Sep 2007 11:35:00 AM |
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"The Wolf With the Red Roses" <after-dark-arms@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4c28e39hjtqhneq5rqgk50hobqlrmulecu@4ax.com...
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 21:28:32 -0700, Colin Campbell
<activated_95b@gmail.com (remove underscore)> wrote something
wonderfully witty:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 13:45:09 -0400, The Wolf With the Red Roses
<after-dark-arms@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 01:42:00 GMT, "The Cunning Linguist"
<thinhthi@pacbell.net> wrote something wonderfully witty:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:1gs3e31tci8ftdbmbsgpeta7c1tdcfk9eh@4ax.com...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:24:30 -0700, Eris <vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
Bring our boys home
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
There are 7 year olds who could teach him things.
The settlement of the Korean War is a UN thing, not US.
While that maybe true, personally I think its a Korean thing. If the
South Korean Prez wants the War over & done, he needs to cut a deal
with the North & tell the UN to *****-off.
He cannot do this because the North Koreans refuse to negotiate with
South Korea.
And we refuse to even talk to the North, let alone negotiate. At
least the South does talk to the North, even if it isn't specifically
about "ending the war" which is only a paperwork exercise anyways.
Roh Moo Hyun was elected on a platform that is very much
Anti-American. After decades of the South Koreans putting up with the
debauchery of American GI's, and the fact that until just fairly
recently they weren't even in charge of their own military, I'm not
surprised that many Korean's want us out, along with blame us for the
poor relations with their other half.
Many Koreans see the unification of Germany and the restoration of the
Eastern Block Countries to be a signal that it can be accomplished on
the peninsula as well. They see the US as the biggest impediment to
that.
Now all that being said from the Korean perspective, it is my
perspective that Bush's policy of "Not Talking" doesn't really get us
anywhere with anybody. However, when I was stationed in Korea
multiple times through the 70's, 80' & 90's, I often got the feeling
that our troops were there to stop the South from invading the North,
not the other way around. Now of course that was under Conservative
Korean leadership, this new batch of leaders (many who were locked up
under the old regimes) seem to be on occasion, agent provocateurs of
the North.
--
Spot-on analysis. Kudos to you.
As boorish as the S. Korean President was by embarrassing GWB in public, he
really *was* playing to the masses - his electorate many of whom have very
strong feelings about the U.S., whether "we" like it or not.
- nilita
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| User: "La N" |
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09 Sep 2007 11:35:50 AM |
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"La N" <nilita2004NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:UgVEi.51137$vP5.49229@edtnps90...
"The Wolf With the Red Roses" <after-dark-arms@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4c28e39hjtqhneq5rqgk50hobqlrmulecu@4ax.com...
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 21:28:32 -0700, Colin Campbell
<activated_95b@gmail.com (remove underscore)> wrote something
wonderfully witty:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 13:45:09 -0400, The Wolf With the Red Roses
<after-dark-arms@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 01:42:00 GMT, "The Cunning Linguist"
<thinhthi@pacbell.net> wrote something wonderfully witty:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:1gs3e31tci8ftdbmbsgpeta7c1tdcfk9eh@4ax.com...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:24:30 -0700, Eris <vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
Bring our boys home
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end
the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
There are 7 year olds who could teach him things.
The settlement of the Korean War is a UN thing, not US.
While that maybe true, personally I think its a Korean thing. If the
South Korean Prez wants the War over & done, he needs to cut a deal
with the North & tell the UN to *****-off.
He cannot do this because the North Koreans refuse to negotiate with
South Korea.
And we refuse to even talk to the North, let alone negotiate. At
least the South does talk to the North, even if it isn't specifically
about "ending the war" which is only a paperwork exercise anyways.
Roh Moo Hyun was elected on a platform that is very much
Anti-American. After decades of the South Koreans putting up with the
debauchery of American GI's, and the fact that until just fairly
recently they weren't even in charge of their own military, I'm not
surprised that many Korean's want us out, along with blame us for the
poor relations with their other half.
Many Koreans see the unification of Germany and the restoration of the
Eastern Block Countries to be a signal that it can be accomplished on
the peninsula as well. They see the US as the biggest impediment to
that.
Now all that being said from the Korean perspective, it is my
perspective that Bush's policy of "Not Talking" doesn't really get us
anywhere with anybody. However, when I was stationed in Korea
multiple times through the 70's, 80' & 90's, I often got the feeling
that our troops were there to stop the South from invading the North,
not the other way around. Now of course that was under Conservative
Korean leadership, this new batch of leaders (many who were locked up
under the old regimes) seem to be on occasion, agent provocateurs of
the North.
--
Spot-on analysis. Kudos to you.
As boorish as the S. Korean President was by embarrassing GWB in public,
he really *was* playing to the masses - his electorate many of whom have
very strong feelings about the U.S., whether "we" like it or not.
I meant to say strong "negative" feelings ...
- nilita
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09 Sep 2007 12:24:46 PM |
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"La N" <nilita2004NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"La N" <nilita2004NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"The Wolf With the Red Roses" <after-dark-arms@cox.net> wrote in message
news:4c28e39hjtqhneq5rqgk50hobqlrmulecu@4ax.com...
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 21:28:32 -0700, Colin Campbell
<activated_95b@gmail.com (remove underscore)> wrote something
wonderfully witty:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 13:45:09 -0400, The Wolf With the Red Roses
<after-dark-arms@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 01:42:00 GMT, "The Cunning Linguist"
<thinhthi@pacbell.net> wrote something wonderfully witty:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:1gs3e31tci8ftdbmbsgpeta7c1tdcfk9eh@4ax.com...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:24:30 -0700, Eris <vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
Bring our boys home
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end
the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
There are 7 year olds who could teach him things.
The settlement of the Korean War is a UN thing, not US.
While that maybe true, personally I think its a Korean thing. If the
South Korean Prez wants the War over & done, he needs to cut a deal
with the North & tell the UN to *****-off.
He cannot do this because the North Koreans refuse to negotiate with
South Korea.
And we refuse to even talk to the North, let alone negotiate. At
least the South does talk to the North, even if it isn't specifically
about "ending the war" which is only a paperwork exercise anyways.
Roh Moo Hyun was elected on a platform that is very much
Anti-American. After decades of the South Koreans putting up with the
debauchery of American GI's, and the fact that until just fairly
recently they weren't even in charge of their own military, I'm not
surprised that many Korean's want us out, along with blame us for the
poor relations with their other half.
Many Koreans see the unification of Germany and the restoration of the
Eastern Block Countries to be a signal that it can be accomplished on
the peninsula as well. They see the US as the biggest impediment to
that.
Now all that being said from the Korean perspective, it is my
perspective that Bush's policy of "Not Talking" doesn't really get us
anywhere with anybody. However, when I was stationed in Korea
multiple times through the 70's, 80' & 90's, I often got the feeling
that our troops were there to stop the South from invading the North,
not the other way around. Now of course that was under Conservative
Korean leadership, this new batch of leaders (many who were locked up
under the old regimes) seem to be on occasion, agent provocateurs of
the North.
--
Spot-on analysis. Kudos to you.
As boorish as the S. Korean President was by embarrassing GWB in public,
he really *was* playing to the masses - his electorate many of whom have
very strong feelings about the U.S., whether "we" like it or not.
I meant to say strong "negative" feelings ...
- nilita
I was just traveling through and thought I'd leave a little history. The
real reason for US troops on the DMZ in Korea goes back to the "tripwire
strategy" developed after Secretary of State Acheson left out South Korea
during a briefing on what was US "vital interests" in the world. "Vital
Interests" is State-speak for "this is what we will go to war over." Since
he didn't, Kim-Il-Sung (the elder) convinced Stalin that the US was not
opposed to Korean reunification under the communists. You know the rest of
that story.
US troops, although in numerical minority, are important, as, if they get
run over by the North Koreans, it insures that we will be at war.
The US commander (technically still the UN commander) is important as he is
seen as "an honest broker" by *both* Koreas - one that is not going to
support any arbitrary going to war.
And, yes, it has become fashionable for both South Korean hawks, as well as
communist sympathizers, to bash the US, in hopes that we will have less
influence. The hawks want to be free to "maybe" invade the north, or at
least seem more of a threat to change the North Korean state, and the
commies - well, we all know what they want.
But, probably, the vast majority of South Koreans would, when faced with US
withdrawal, say, "Wait a minute here! This political posturing is one
thing, you're not *really* going to leave are you?" Think of Hyundai, think
of Kia, think of.....
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09 Sep 2007 01:16:42 PM |
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"Billzz" <billzzstring@starband.net> wrote in message
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"The Wolf With the Red Roses" <after-dark-arms@cox.net> wrote in message
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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 21:28:32 -0700, Colin Campbell
<activated_95b@gmail.com (remove underscore)> wrote something
wonderfully witty:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 13:45:09 -0400, The Wolf With the Red Roses
<after-dark-arms@cox.net> wrote:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 01:42:00 GMT, "The Cunning Linguist"
<thinhthi@pacbell.net> wrote something wonderfully witty:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:1gs3e31tci8ftdbmbsgpeta7c1tdcfk9eh@4ax.com...
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:24:30 -0700, Eris <vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
Bring our boys home
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end
the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
There are 7 year olds who could teach him things.
The settlement of the Korean War is a UN thing, not US.
While that maybe true, personally I think its a Korean thing. If the
South Korean Prez wants the War over & done, he needs to cut a deal
with the North & tell the UN to *****-off.
He cannot do this because the North Koreans refuse to negotiate with
South Korea.
And we refuse to even talk to the North, let alone negotiate. At
least the South does talk to the North, even if it isn't specifically
about "ending the war" which is only a paperwork exercise anyways.
Roh Moo Hyun was elected on a platform that is very much
Anti-American. After decades of the South Koreans putting up with the
debauchery of American GI's, and the fact that until just fairly
recently they weren't even in charge of their own military, I'm not
surprised that many Korean's want us out, along with blame us for the
poor relations with their other half.
Many Koreans see the unification of Germany and the restoration of the
Eastern Block Countries to be a signal that it can be accomplished on
the peninsula as well. They see the US as the biggest impediment to
that.
Now all that being said from the Korean perspective, it is my
perspective that Bush's policy of "Not Talking" doesn't really get us
anywhere with anybody. However, when I was stationed in Korea
multiple times through the 70's, 80' & 90's, I often got the feeling
that our troops were there to stop the South from invading the North,
not the other way around. Now of course that was under Conservative
Korean leadership, this new batch of leaders (many who were locked up
under the old regimes) seem to be on occasion, agent provocateurs of
the North.
--
Spot-on analysis. Kudos to you.
As boorish as the S. Korean President was by embarrassing GWB in public,
he really *was* playing to the masses - his electorate many of whom
have very strong feelings about the U.S., whether "we" like it or not.
I meant to say strong "negative" feelings ...
- nilita
I was just traveling through and thought I'd leave a little history. The
real reason for US troops on the DMZ in Korea goes back to the "tripwire
strategy" developed after Secretary of State Acheson left out South Korea
during a briefing on what was US "vital interests" in the world. "Vital
Interests" is State-speak for "this is what we will go to war over."
Since he didn't, Kim-Il-Sung (the elder) convinced Stalin that the US was
not opposed to Korean reunification under the communists. You know the
rest of that story.
US troops, although in numerical minority, are important, as, if they get
run over by the North Koreans, it insures that we will be at war.
The US commander (technically still the UN commander) is important as he
is seen as "an honest broker" by *both* Koreas - one that is not going to
support any arbitrary going to war.
And, yes, it has become fashionable for both South Korean hawks, as well
as communist sympathizers, to bash the US, in hopes that we will have less
influence. The hawks want to be free to "maybe" invade the north, or at
least seem more of a threat to change the North Korean state, and the
commies - well, we all know what they want.
But, probably, the vast majority of South Koreans would, when faced with
US withdrawal, say, "Wait a minute here! This political posturing is one
thing, you're not *really* going to leave are you?" Think of Hyundai,
think of Kia, think of.....
Thank you for this, Colonel. I believe you're right. If the S. Koreans
really REALLY wanted the US out, they'd be out by now, I would think.
- nilita
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| User: "Colin Campbell remove underscore" |
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09 Sep 2007 01:04:17 PM |
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On Sun, 09 Sep 2007 12:21:14 -0400, The Wolf With the Red Roses
<after-dark-arms@cox.net> wrote:
He cannot do this because the North Koreans refuse to negotiate with
South Korea.
And we refuse to even talk to the North, let alone negotiate. At
least the South does talk to the North, even if it isn't specifically
about "ending the war" which is only a paperwork exercise anyways.
We do negotiate with North Korea. In fact this happens all the time.
However we have made the inclusion of South Korea as a precondition
for any peace negotiations.
Roh Moo Hyun was elected on a platform that is very much
Anti-American. After decades of the South Koreans putting up with the
debauchery of American GI's, and the fact that until just fairly
recently they weren't even in charge of their own military, I'm not
surprised that many Korean's want us out, along with blame us for the
poor relations with their other half.
I suggest that you go back and look up what the South Korean reaction
was when we began talking about pulling our troops out of their
country.
In fact the primary reason that South Korea sent troops to Iraq was to
get us to keep out troops in their country.
Many Koreans see the unification of Germany and the restoration of the
Eastern Block Countries to be a signal that it can be accomplished on
the peninsula as well. They see the US as the biggest impediment to
that.
Is this the 'Korean' perspective or the perspective of _some_ Koreans?
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There can be no triumph without loss.
No victory without suffering.
No freedom without sacrifice.
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08 Sep 2007 12:22:49 AM |
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Al Klein wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:24:30 -0700, Eris <vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
Bring our boys home
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
There are 7 year olds who could teach him things.
there are 7 day olds that could teach you.....
redc1c4,
wanna talk metabolism? %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "Horvath" |
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08 Sep 2007 01:18:11 AM |
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 20:51:29 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote this crap:
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him. Great diplomacy, lots of
gravitas! Dignity restored to the presidency at last.
There are 7 year olds who could teach him things.
There are six year olds who could teach you things. What's your
point?
My T-shirt says, "This shirt is the
ultimate power in the universe."
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| User: "!Jones" |
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09 Sep 2007 08:24:08 PM |
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On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:24:30 -0700, in alt.war.vietnam Eris
<vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him.
Brang 'em on!!!
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| User: "Eris" |
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09 Sep 2007 08:59:10 PM |
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On Sep 9, 9:24 pm, !Jones <p...@off.com> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:24:30 -0700, in alt.war.vietnam Eris
<vith...@gmail.com> wrote:
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him.
Brang 'em on!!!
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| User: "Eris" |
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09 Sep 2007 09:00:05 PM |
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On Sep 9, 9:24 pm, !Jones <p...@off.com> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:24:30 -0700, in alt.war.vietnam Eris
<vith...@gmail.com> wrote:
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him.
Brang 'em on!!!
Like my Colonel in Nam remarked, there are entirely too many teen age
boys.
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| User: "redc1c4" |
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10 Sep 2007 02:03:08 AM |
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Eris wrote:
On Sep 9, 9:24 pm, !Jones <p...@off.com> wrote:
On Fri, 07 Sep 2007 14:24:30 -0700, in alt.war.vietnam Eris
<vith...@gmail.com> wrote:
The leader of Korea asked our dumb ***** president to officially end the
Korean war and Bush gets snotty with him.
Brang 'em on!!!
Like my Colonel in Nam remarked, there are entirely too many teen age
boys.
since you were never in 'Nam, this hardly applies.
redc1c4,
why do you want someone to "bring on" teenage boys? %-)
--
"Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear
considerable watching."
Army Officer's Guide
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| User: "!Jones" |
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15 Sep 2007 09:30:26 PM |
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 07:03:08 GMT, in alt.war.vietnam redc1c4
<redc1c4@drunkenbastards.org.ies> wrote:
since you were never in 'Nam, this hardly applies.
I do not understand why people say this kind of thing.
1) It didn't take a rocket scientist to get to Vietnam.
2) What good does it do someone to claim to have been in Vietnam? It
wasn't exactly a popular war and we're generally seen as druggies
holding signs" "WILL WORK FOR FOOD" at freeway entrances.
Jones
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