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"J Young" |
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18 Aug 2007 09:52:42 PM |
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Evangelist Bill Graham Hospitalized |
I believe I can speak for everyone in wishing the Rev. Graham a full and
speedy recovery
http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=4105669&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.3.1
Evangelist Billy Graham was admitted to a hospital near his home early
Saturday for evaluation and treatment of an intestinal bleed, hospital
officials said.
Graham, 88, was resting comfortably Saturday afternoon, said Merrell
Gregory, a spokesman for Mission Health & Hospitals in Asheville.
Graham's doctors said his condition did not appear to be life-threatening,
said Graham's spokesman, Larry Ross. He estimated the ailing preacher could
be released from the hospital in a couple of days
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J Young
younginsights@aol.com
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| User: "Rick" |
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26 Aug 2007 08:43:26 PM |
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Syd wrote in message
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On Aug 25, 7:03 pm, "Rick" <pl1_alpha_g...@juNOSPAM.com> wrote:
Syd wrote in message
<1188064311.567406.150...@i13g2000prf.googlegroups.com>...
On Aug 24, 6:29 pm, "Rick" <pl1_alpha_g...@juNOSPAM.com> wrote:
Syd wrote in message
<1187992928.421718.233...@q4g2000prc.googlegroups.com>...>On Aug 24,
5:48
pm, "Rick" <pl1_alpha_g...@juNOSPAM.com> wrote:
[snip]
Did you really think the opion of an anoynemse group member troubles
me, *****?
By the nature of your responses to me, the answer is a resounding
YES!!!!
- Rick
I also noticed you didn't respong to my request for inhancement of my
offence..
Wich I take to mean youre just yelling to be heard.
Stop your blathering. You've lost touch with reality and rationality.
And please don't respong to this inhanced post.
- Rick
And don't tell me what to do, (P)Rick.
Ok. It's actually more fun to see you continue making a fool of yourself.
Respong away!
- Rick
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| User: "Syd" |
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24 Aug 2007 11:44:06 AM |
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On Aug 23, 7:26 pm, "Rick" <pl1_alpha_g...@juNOSPAM.com> wrote:
Syd wrote in message
<1187880369.980367.229...@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com>...>On Aug 22, 4:54 pm, "Rick" <pl1_alpha_g...@juNOSPAM.com> wrote:
Syd wrote in message
<1187804170.753590.308...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>...>On Aug 22,
12:13 pm, "Rick" <pl1_alpha_g...@juNOSPAM.com> wrote:
Rick wrote in message ...
Syd M. wrote in message
<1187542303.141892.47...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>...
On Aug 19, 3:59 am, "Rick" <pl1_alpha_g...@juNOSPAM.com> wrote:
Stephen Knight wrote in message ...
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:52:42 -0400, "J Young"
<younginsig...@aol.com>
wrote:
I believe I can speak for everyone in wishing the Rev. Graham a
full
and
speedy recovery
I hope he drops dead choking on his own blood.
If there's a god, Falwell will be butt fucking him while he's
sucking Hitler's *****.
Moron.
- Rick
Not read any JrkYoung post then, I take it.
Moron.
In another post (which you said you would not do) you wrote: "And all
of
my
responces are directed at JrkYoung and his anticks." That's a
bold-faced
lie. This comment was specifically in defense of an extremely violent
wish
towards Graham. As I've explained over and over again, that
hatefullness
was
not necessary to criticise J Young. I have absolute confidence that
once
more you will refuse to see the truth.
This is the post that started the mess you've gotten yourself in. You
didn't
have to explicitly mention Graham. Your comment gave tacet approval
to
an
extremely vile and ultra-violent insult towards Graham. Why would you
defend
that? I stand by everything I said to you. And again, I couldn't care
one
bit about what you think about J Young. However, it's no excuse to
make
a
complete and total fool of yourself by defending the indefensible.
- Rick- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
<Balated revolation>
I believe I can speak for everyone in wishing the Rev. Graham a full
and
speedy recovery
I believe I can speak for everyone here to tell you to go to hell,
JrkYoung
Ok. I've looked at my first post, and noticed perhaps how it plays..
I'm sorry if it looks like I mean ill-will towards the Graham family,
but that wasn't my intent. My intent was to tell JrkYoung he does not
speak for me.
Hmm.. It also seems I'm doing exactly what I accuse JrkYoung of doing.
Again, not my intent.
Holy Smokes!!! I thought you were beyond hope. I just hope this will
serve
as an example for you and many others here to think a little more
carefully
before knees are jerked.
- Rick
Well, I do sometimes post stuff without considering how they play to
the unitiated.
You're excusing and rationalizing your irrationality. You posted without
considering what you were saying.
Look, (P)Rick.. From here, your just another hysterical loon. And I
still have no idea what's got yer panties inna bunch.
Hell, I just thought about it at work, when I remembered JrkYoungs
original and my reply, and how that might look to someone who
considers him a great leader..
Who considers him a great leader? Not me. I thought you learned your lesson.
Stop digging your hole deeper. And stop lying about me.
...I'm begining to think whatever offence I made is all in your mind.
(I don't.. Not a believer, donchaknow)..
I thought you were all fired up about my hostility towards the
originator of this thread,
You had absolutely no basis for that. I EXPLICITLY MADE IT CLEAR I WAS NOT
DOING THAT!!! I don't think you've learned a thing.
At this point, I don't know what the hell is your problem.
hence my testy replies.. Didn't occur to me
that it looked like I was being callous towards the Graham family..
That's because you were a profoundly clueless hostile hot-headed knee-jerk.
Am I? Your the one posting hysterical rants against something I never
said..
Oh, well.. Sayla Vee.. ;->
I thought you learned your lesson. This post of your's displays considerable
denial. You should have quit while you almost ahead. You don't want to take
res[ponsibility for your errors.
- Rick, hoping Syd will be smart enough to stop digging his hole deeper- Hide quoted text -
Alright, (P)Rick.. Again, I challenge you to describe what you
consider my offence.
In painfull detail.
In order.
With footnotes and apendaxies.
Are you up for the challenge?
PDW
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| User: "Rick" |
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24 Aug 2007 04:57:07 PM |
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Syd wrote in message
<1187973846.343535.295360@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com>...
On Aug 23, 7:26 pm, "Rick" <pl1_alpha_g...@juNOSPAM.com> wrote:
Syd wrote in message
<1187880369.980367.229...@e9g2000prf.googlegroups.com>...>On Aug 22, 4:54
pm, "Rick" <pl1_alpha_g...@juNOSPAM.com> wrote:
Syd wrote in message
<1187804170.753590.308...@q3g2000prf.googlegroups.com>...>On Aug 22,
12:13 pm, "Rick" <pl1_alpha_g...@juNOSPAM.com> wrote:
Rick wrote in message ...
Syd M. wrote in message
<1187542303.141892.47...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com>...
On Aug 19, 3:59 am, "Rick" <pl1_alpha_g...@juNOSPAM.com> wrote:
Stephen Knight wrote in message ...
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:52:42 -0400, "J Young"
<younginsig...@aol.com>
wrote:
I believe I can speak for everyone in wishing the Rev. Graham
a
full
and
speedy recovery
I hope he drops dead choking on his own blood.
If there's a god, Falwell will be butt fucking him while
he's
sucking Hitler's *****.
Moron.
- Rick
Not read any JrkYoung post then, I take it.
Moron.
In another post (which you said you would not do) you wrote: "And
all
of
my
responces are directed at JrkYoung and his anticks." That's a
bold-faced
lie. This comment was specifically in defense of an extremely
violent
wish
towards Graham. As I've explained over and over again, that
hatefullness
was
not necessary to criticise J Young. I have absolute confidence that
once
more you will refuse to see the truth.
This is the post that started the mess you've gotten yourself in.
You
didn't
have to explicitly mention Graham. Your comment gave tacet
approval
to
an
extremely vile and ultra-violent insult towards Graham. Why would
you
defend
that? I stand by everything I said to you. And again, I couldn't
care
one
bit about what you think about J Young. However, it's no excuse to
make
a
complete and total fool of yourself by defending the indefensible.
- Rick- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
<Balated revolation>
I believe I can speak for everyone in wishing the Rev. Graham a full
and
speedy recovery
I believe I can speak for everyone here to tell you to go to hell,
JrkYoung
Ok. I've looked at my first post, and noticed perhaps how it plays..
I'm sorry if it looks like I mean ill-will towards the Graham family,
but that wasn't my intent. My intent was to tell JrkYoung he does not
speak for me.
Hmm.. It also seems I'm doing exactly what I accuse JrkYoung of
doing.
Again, not my intent.
Holy Smokes!!! I thought you were beyond hope. I just hope this will
serve
as an example for you and many others here to think a little more
carefully
before knees are jerked.
- Rick
Well, I do sometimes post stuff without considering how they play to
the unitiated.
You're excusing and rationalizing your irrationality. You posted without
considering what you were saying.
Look, (P)Rick.. From here, your just another hysterical loon. And I
still have no idea what's got yer panties inna bunch.
You appear to be lacking more than a few clues.
Hell, I just thought about it at work, when I remembered JrkYoungs
original and my reply, and how that might look to someone who
considers him a great leader..
Why are you implying that I consider J Young a great leader? That's
offensive to me. You wanted to bury the hatchet...in my back.
Who considers him a great leader? Not me. I thought you learned your
lesson.
Stop digging your hole deeper. And stop lying about me.
..I'm begining to think whatever offence I made is all in your mind.
Oh, it's very real. But I don't believe you want to understand.
(I don't.. Not a believer, donchaknow)..
I thought you were all fired up about my hostility towards the
originator of this thread,
You had absolutely no basis for that. I EXPLICITLY MADE IT CLEAR I WAS
NOT
DOING THAT!!! I don't think you've learned a thing.
At this point, I don't know what the hell is your problem.
hence my testy replies.. Didn't occur to me
that it looked like I was being callous towards the Graham family..
That's because you were a profoundly clueless hostile hot-headed
knee-jerk.
Am I? Your the one posting hysterical rants against something I never
said..
Oh, well.. Sayla Vee.. ;->
I thought you learned your lesson. This post of your's displays
considerable
denial. You should have quit while you almost ahead. You don't want to
take
res[ponsibility for your errors.
- Rick, hoping Syd will be smart enough to stop digging his hole deeper-
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Alright, (P)Rick.. Again, I challenge you to describe what you
consider my offence.
In painfull detail.
In order.
With footnotes and apendaxies.
Are you up for the challenge?
At this point it would be a total waste to describe again what I've posted
many times. You'll just have to read the whole thread again. It's all there.
- Rick
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| User: "Stephen Knight" |
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| Title: Re: Evangelist Bill Graham Hospitalized |
19 Aug 2007 09:36:00 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 02:59:46 -0500, "Rick"
<pl1_alpha_geek@juNOSPAM.com> wrote:
Stephen Knight wrote in message ...
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:52:42 -0400, "J Young" <younginsights@aol.com>
wrote:
I believe I can speak for everyone in wishing the Rev. Graham a full and
speedy recovery
I hope he drops dead choking on his own blood.
If there's a god, Falwell will be butt fucking him while he's
sucking Hitler's *****.
Moron.
Alright! I'm being called a Moron by some fuckwit with Mother
Theresa syndrome. Or as I call it, Religious Herpes. Once you get it,
it never goes away.
Graham fleeced millions out of their money by telling a lie.
He's not a 'nice guy'. He a Shamen Snake Oil salesman and he got
rich doing it.
So ***** you, *****!
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
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| User: "Rick" |
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19 Aug 2007 10:35:31 PM |
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Stephen Knight wrote in message
<70vhc3p5ach3vbrul4656c2de91d16mu1p@4ax.com>...
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 02:59:46 -0500, "Rick"
<pl1_alpha_geek@juNOSPAM.com> wrote:
Stephen Knight wrote in message ...
On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:52:42 -0400, "J Young" <younginsights@aol.com>
wrote:
I believe I can speak for everyone in wishing the Rev. Graham a full and
speedy recovery
I hope he drops dead choking on his own blood.
If there's a god, Falwell will be butt fucking him while he's
sucking Hitler's *****.
Moron.
Alright! I'm being called a Moron by some fuckwit with Mother
Theresa syndrome.
No, just someone who, unlike you, is informed.
Or as I call it, Religious Herpes. Once you get it,
it never goes away.
It's a thing called knowledge. Perhaps you should make its aquaintance.
Graham fleeced millions out of their money by telling a lie.
Please provide evidence of your claims. You've already provided enough
evidence of your ignorance-based hatred.
He's not a 'nice guy'. He a Shamen Snake Oil salesman and he got
rich doing it.
Exactly how rich did he get?
So ***** you, *****!
- Rick
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| User: "Don Martin" |
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20 Aug 2007 09:15:07 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 22:35:31 -0500, "Rick"
<pl1_alpha_geek@juNOSPAM.com> wrote:
He's not a 'nice guy'. He a Shamen Snake Oil salesman and he got
rich doing it.
Exactly how rich did he get?
Very difficult to tell, considering that religious organizations are
not required to make any public accounting; however, the Billy Graham
Evangelistic Association (BGEA) seems to be a going concern, able to
rent huge stadia at a single bound, run a number of "ministries" like
radio, television, film, etc. capable of making money. Billy Graham
may not be rich personally, but one does not need to be as CEO of a
non profit organization. Who needs money to pay the rent when one's
residences (rectories, I suppose) are furnished, along with staff, by
the BGEA? Why worry about the high price of gasoline when the BGEA
fills the tanks of the cars the BGEA buys and equips with chauffers?
Why fret the food bill, when the rectory is supplied with all one
needs for subsistence and entertainment? Billy Graham may not have a
personal dime to his name, yet he has been living the life of a very
rich man for over a half century that I know of.
What is wealth? Having money, or enjoying the things money buys?
WOA* #2278
If you can't be a dirty old man, what is the point of being an old man?
Through a jaundiced eye darkly--rheum with a view.
The Squeeky Wheel
http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
__________
*Wicked Old Atheist
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| User: "Rick" |
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20 Aug 2007 11:49:14 PM |
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Don Martin wrote in message ...
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 22:35:31 -0500, "Rick"
<pl1_alpha_geek@juNOSPAM.com> wrote:
He's not a 'nice guy'. He a Shamen Snake Oil salesman and he got
rich doing it.
Exactly how rich did he get?
Very difficult to tell,
You didn't give it a try, did you? It's much easier to resort to speculation
and insinuation.
considering that religious organizations are
not required to make any public accounting;
The BGEA financial statements are available. In fact, this last year,
someone here made some claim about how much Graham was making, and posted a
URL to a PDF. It was very large, and the person didn't care to point out
just where the info was found. I don't care to do someone else's homework,
so I never saw it.
however, the Billy Graham
Evangelistic Association (BGEA) seems to be a going concern, able to
rent huge stadia at a single bound,
Precisely what do you mean by "a single bound." I think you're trying too
hard to be melodramatic.
run a number of "ministries" like
radio, television, film, etc. capable of making money.
You're speculating as to the end goal of these ministries.
Billy Graham may not be rich personally,
Now you're conceding. Actually I'm quite confident that he's fairly well off
compared to the average preacher. But he did run a large organization.
but one does not need to be as CEO of a
non profit organization. Who needs money to pay the rent when one's
residences (rectories, I suppose)
You suppose wrong. That you would use the word "rectory" shows your
ignorance. He has a house. A very nice one, but it's just a house.
are furnished, along with staff, by
the BGEA? Why worry about the high price of gasoline when the BGEA
fills the tanks of the cars the BGEA buys and equips with chauffers?
How is the coverage of transportation expenses unique to Graham? Why don't
you condemn all non-profits, corporations, and, well, just about everybody?
Why fret the food bill, when the rectory is supplied with all one
needs for subsistence and entertainment?
Now you're making up stuff. Besides, just how much do you think might be
spend on supplying Graham and his wife with food? I don't think we're
talking really big bucks.
Billy Graham may not have a
personal dime to his name, yet he has been living the life of a very
rich
You're going to have to be more careful about defining your terms. How much
is "very rich?" As much as John Edwards or John Kerry?
man for over a half century that I know of.
What is wealth? Having money, or enjoying the things money buys?
I would hope that wealth includes having correct information to form one's
opinions. You are quite impoverished in that respect. Do your homework
before you respond.
- Rick
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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19 Aug 2007 12:32:13 PM |
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Stephen Knight wrote:
I hope he drops dead choking on his own blood.
Sure you're not confusing him with his son? The elder Graham is one of the last of a dying
breed -- literally -- of preachers with class and tact.
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is
for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more
bizarre and inexplicable.
There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
--Douglas Adams
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| User: "Venceremos" |
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19 Aug 2007 07:00:19 PM |
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Too bad! I liked the old guy. I will say my muslim prayer for him
tonight! may Allah help him see the truth!
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| User: "Stephen Knight" |
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19 Aug 2007 09:45:30 PM |
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On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:32:13 -0400, Dionisio
<moc-rr-thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote:
Stephen Knight wrote:
I hope he drops dead choking on his own blood.
Sure you're not confusing him with his son? The elder Graham is one of the last of a dying
breed -- literally -- of preachers with class and tact.
I don't for a second entertain the ideal of a preacher with tact
and class. They are all liars at the bottom line. They make a living
at the myth of death. That by itself, IMO, excludes them from respect
and integrity.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
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| User: "Rick" |
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20 Aug 2007 11:55:18 PM |
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Stephen Knight wrote in message ...
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:32:13 -0400, Dionisio
<moc-rr-thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote:
Stephen Knight wrote:
I hope he drops dead choking on his own blood.
Sure you're not confusing him with his son? The elder Graham is one of the
last of a dying
breed -- literally -- of preachers with class and tact.
I don't for a second entertain the ideal of a preacher with tact
and class. They are all liars at the bottom line. They make a living
at the myth of death. That by itself, IMO, excludes them from respect
and integrity.
That's pretty funny. Try telling it to Pastor's Dan Schultz and Chuck
Currie.
http://www.streetprophets.com
http://chuckcurrie.blogs.com
- Rick
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| User: "Stephen Knight" |
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21 Aug 2007 09:43:52 PM |
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On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:55:18 -0500, "Rick"
<pl1_alpha_geek@juNOSPAM.com> wrote:
Stephen Knight wrote in message ...
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:32:13 -0400, Dionisio
<moc-rr-thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote:
Stephen Knight wrote:
I hope he drops dead choking on his own blood.
Sure you're not confusing him with his son? The elder Graham is one of the
last of a dying
breed -- literally -- of preachers with class and tact.
I don't for a second entertain the ideal of a preacher with tact
and class. They are all liars at the bottom line. They make a living
at the myth of death. That by itself, IMO, excludes them from respect
and integrity.
That's pretty funny. Try telling it to Pastor's Dan Schultz and Chuck
Currie.
http://www.streetprophets.com
http://chuckcurrie.blogs.com
I checked out the website's above.
I am stunned! The information and dedication overwhelmed me!
I find myself at a loss for words. You send an atheist to a
god-soaked, bottom of the barrel imbecilic moronic site, drooling
superstitious drivel and expect me to give it the time of day.
I can't believe how out of touch you fucking idiots are.
It's so easy, a Caveman can figure it out... but not a christian.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
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| User: "Rick" |
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22 Aug 2007 11:06:46 AM |
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Stephen Knight wrote in message ...
On Mon, 20 Aug 2007 23:55:18 -0500, "Rick"
<pl1_alpha_geek@juNOSPAM.com> wrote:
Stephen Knight wrote in message ...
On Sun, 19 Aug 2007 13:32:13 -0400, Dionisio
<moc-rr-thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote:
Stephen Knight wrote:
I hope he drops dead choking on his own blood.
Sure you're not confusing him with his son? The elder Graham is one of
the
last of a dying
breed -- literally -- of preachers with class and tact.
I don't for a second entertain the ideal of a preacher with tact
and class. They are all liars at the bottom line. They make a living
at the myth of death. That by itself, IMO, excludes them from respect
and integrity.
That's pretty funny. Try telling it to Pastor's Dan Schultz and Chuck
Currie.
http://www.streetprophets.com
http://chuckcurrie.blogs.com
I checked out the website's above.
I am stunned! The information and dedication overwhelmed me!
I find myself at a loss for words.
Well, not a complete loss, but the ones you have are sure awkward.
You send an atheist to a
god-soaked, bottom of the barrel imbecilic moronic site, drooling
superstitious drivel and expect me to give it the time of day.
If that's what you think they are, you didn't spend any significant time
there. THere are quite a few atheists who post regularly at Street Prophets.
You might not recognize them, because they're not the usual bile-spewing
hatemongers like you.
I can't believe how out of touch you fucking idiots are.
I love the irony.
It's so easy, a Caveman can figure it out... but not a christian.
Again, at Street Prophets there are Christians, Buddhists, Muslims, Pagans,
agnostics, atheists, and many more.
- Rick
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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20 Aug 2007 06:27:09 AM |
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Stephen Knight wrote:
Dionisio <moc-rr-thgisni@5ellimd.com> wrote:
Sure you're not confusing him with his son? The elder Graham is one of the last of a dying
breed -- literally -- of preachers with class and tact.
I don't for a second entertain the ideal of a preacher with tact
and class.
Your loss.
They are all liars at the bottom line. They make a living
at the myth of death. That by itself, IMO, excludes them from respect
and integrity.
"Myth of death"? Perhaps you meant "myth of afterlife." Death seems to be rather non-mythical.
--
And the Thought of the Moment (TM) is:
"I don't like trickle-down-morality. If a nation is not ready to accept a universal
standard of righteousness, no President or Congress can impose it... Ministers who think
that government alone, or government mostly, can accomplish their legitimate objectives
might wish to reconsider this biblical truth: 'Not by might, not by power, but by my
spirit, says the Lord'"
-- Cal Thomas, writer & former vice-president of the Moral Majority, in a Los Angeles
Times column in 1992.
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| User: "Don Martin" |
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19 Aug 2007 11:02:09 AM |
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On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 22:52:42 -0400, "J Young" <younginsights@aol.com>
wrote:
I believe I can speak for everyone in wishing the Rev. Graham a full and
speedy recovery
Another false belief on your part.
WOA* #2278
If you can't be a dirty old man, what is the point of being an old man?
Through a jaundiced eye darkly--rheum with a view.
The Squeeky Wheel
http://home.comcast.net/~drdonmartin/
__________
*Wicked Old Atheist
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