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06 Dec 2004 06:40:21 AM |
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Even MORE depressing news about Bush.... |
In case any of you are feeling at all optimistic, the current issue of
Skeptic magazine has a nice article documenting how the Bush
administration tries to force science to conform to Bush's ideology,
rather than using it to help make rational decisions.
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MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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| Title: Re: Even MORE depressing news about Bush.... |
06 Dec 2004 07:41:04 PM |
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In article <pan.2004.12.06.12.41.20.392083@stopspam.net>,
MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
In case any of you are feeling at all optimistic, the current issue of
Skeptic magazine has a nice article documenting how the Bush
administration tries to force science to conform to Bush's ideology,
rather than using it to help make rational decisions.
Yeah, mon. That's just what we need to dwell on tonight. You don't mind
if I get a good little sleep before I read it, do you? {;-)
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Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
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| User: "Geoff" |
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| Title: Re: Even MORE depressing news about Bush.... |
06 Dec 2004 10:08:56 PM |
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"*nemo*" <nemo0037@earthlink.dieSPAM.net> wrote in message
news:nemo0037-4AC153.20410406122004@news1.east.earthlink.net...
In article <pan.2004.12.06.12.41.20.392083@stopspam.net>,
MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
In case any of you are feeling at all optimistic, the current issue of
Skeptic magazine has a nice article documenting how the Bush
administration tries to force science to conform to Bush's ideology,
rather than using it to help make rational decisions.
Yeah, mon. That's just what we need to dwell on tonight. You don't mind
if I get a good little sleep before I read it, do you? {;-)
Sleep well...sleep well.
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| User: "Woden" |
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06 Dec 2004 05:17:58 PM |
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MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote in news:pan.2004.12.06.12.41.20.392083
@stopspam.net:
In case any of you are feeling at all optimistic, the current issue of
Skeptic magazine has a nice article documenting how the Bush
administration tries to force science to conform to Bush's ideology,
rather than using it to help make rational decisions.
And this is a surprise?
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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| User: "Auntie Lib" |
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| Title: Re: Even MORE depressing news about Bush.... |
08 Dec 2004 03:07:01 PM |
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MarkA wrote:
In case any of you are feeling at all optimistic, the current issue
of Skeptic magazine has a nice article documenting how the Bush
administration tries to force science to conform to Bush's ideology,
rather than using it to help make rational decisions.
Take heart, Mark. The back page editorial of last week's Time Magazine
had a nice little rant on progress and the futility of the attempt to
hold it back. Cheered me up immeasurably. The current crop of neocons
can try with all their might to keep their fingers in the dam but they
can't hold back the water.
They've been trying since religion was first invented to quell science,
discovery, human evolution and the granting of human rights and they
haven't succeeded. Why? Because some things are inevitable. We're
living through a short hitch in the gitalong, nothing more. (I try to
imagine what it must've been like to live during the Red Scare era or
the depression or during the first days of WWII or the plagues in
Europe. Now is better.)
Dubya only has a couple of years to do what he's gonna do and then it's
all over for him. Regardless, the worst he does can always be undone.
Progress will be made. Stem cell research will go forward, homosexuals
will be accepted as human beings with the same rights, birth control
will get safer and more accurate, alternate sources of energy will be
found and exploited to a greater degree. And religious influence will
decline.
Maybe that's why they're so shrill in their "victory." They know
they're fighting an ultimately losing battle. I almost feel sorry for
them.
Almost.
elizabeth
aa#2098
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"The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion
is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also."
Mark Twain
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| User: "MarkA" |
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09 Dec 2004 06:45:15 AM |
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On Wed, 08 Dec 2004 13:07:01 -0800, Auntie Lib wrote:
MarkA wrote:
In case any of you are feeling at all optimistic, the current issue of
Skeptic magazine has a nice article documenting how the Bush
administration tries to force science to conform to Bush's ideology,
rather than using it to help make rational decisions.
Take heart, Mark. The back page editorial of last week's Time Magazine
had a nice little rant on progress and the futility of the attempt to hold
it back. Cheered me up immeasurably. The current crop of neocons can try
with all their might to keep their fingers in the dam but they can't hold
back the water.
They've been trying since religion was first invented to quell science,
discovery, human evolution and the granting of human rights and they
haven't succeeded. Why? Because some things are inevitable. We're
living through a short hitch in the gitalong, nothing more. (I try to
imagine what it must've been like to live during the Red Scare era or the
depression or during the first days of WWII or the plagues in Europe. Now
is better.)
Dubya only has a couple of years to do what he's gonna do and then it's
all over for him. Regardless, the worst he does can always be undone.
Progress will be made. Stem cell research will go forward, homosexuals
will be accepted as human beings with the same rights, birth control will
get safer and more accurate, alternate sources of energy will be found and
exploited to a greater degree. And religious influence will decline.
Maybe that's why they're so shrill in their "victory." They know they're
fighting an ultimately losing battle. I almost feel sorry for them.
Almost.
elizabeth
aa#2098
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "The easy
confidence with which I know another man's religion is folly teaches me to
suspect that my own is also." Mark Twain
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Thank you, Lib. Of course you (and Time magazine) are correct. The other
comforting thought is to remember that the worse the neocons screw
things up, the more potent the eventual backlash will be.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Auntie Lib" |
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09 Dec 2004 03:24:29 PM |
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You're welcome. Though it doesn't make it any easier to bear knowing
it's only a temporary setback. This is the only life I've got and I
hate to waste even a moment of it being *****.
Though that's especially hard when I hear that Bush's new Intelligence
Czar (and the beaurocracy accompanying it) is going to become a
reality. Hellooooo! Isn't gathering intelligence supposed to be the
job of the Pentagon and Joint Chiefs and the president? Oh, right. I
forgot. Intellectually, I know that Bush is just trying to insulate
himself from having to process data and make decisions he's too stupid
to understand but it still makes me want to tear my hair out that so
many people just don't see that we are being "led" by the Village
Idiot!
I'm having a really big bumper sticker made and I'm going to put it in
my car's back window. It's going to say: "WE TRIED TO WARN YOU!"
(The complaints are starting already here in California over Bush's
proposal to halt the labeling of produce with where it comes from.
They don't like that at all but, hey, he's "still better than Kerry."
The rationalization is starting early this time around.)
Ya just gotta laugh.
elizabeth
aa#2098
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"The easy confidence with which I know another man's religion
is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also."
Mark Twain
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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07 Dec 2004 05:47:15 PM |
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On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 12:40:21 GMT the ET form known as
MarkA<manthony@stopspam.net> sent a radio signal across the vast
expanse of deep space -._.--._.--._.--._.--._.--._.
In case any of you are feeling at all optimistic, the current issue of
Skeptic magazine has a nice article documenting how the Bush
administration tries to force science to conform to Bush's ideology,
rather than using it to help make rational decisions.
Neocons are Stalinists. Reality is what neocons make it. Theirs is not
to engage, discuss and debate, but rather to thrust and to rape.
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apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
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were dead and in Heaven, and that their neighbors were dead and in
Hell.
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Even MORE depressing news about Bush.... |
06 Dec 2004 05:49:47 PM |
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On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 12:40:21 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
In case any of you are feeling at all optimistic, the current issue of
Skeptic magazine has a nice article documenting how the Bush
administration tries to force science to conform to Bush's ideology,
rather than using it to help make rational decisions.
That's what it's called a false belief mag.
duke
*****
Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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06 Dec 2004 11:09:55 PM |
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On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 17:49:47 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> said in
alt.atheism:
On Mon, 06 Dec 2004 12:40:21 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
In case any of you are feeling at all optimistic, the current issue of
Skeptic magazine has a nice article documenting how the Bush
administration tries to force science to conform to Bush's ideology,
rather than using it to help make rational decisions.
That's what it's called a false belief mag.
You're Catholic, Earl - one of those the Bush types consider to be
idol worshippers.
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"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious
conviction."
- Blaise Pascal (1623-1662)
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Even MORE depressing news about Bush.... |
06 Dec 2004 10:56:03 PM |
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This is not new news. We knew this months ago.
jwk
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