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"Sound of Trumpet" |
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28 Dec 2006 02:31:28 AM |
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Even Movies About Space Aliens Must Insult Christians |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1757878/posts
Christianity under attack
TORONTO SUN ^ | Sat, December 23, 2006 | Michael Coren
Posted on 12/23/2006 4:21:49 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
As we prepare to celebrate the birthday of Jesus Christ there is surely
nobody who seriously believes that Christianity is not under attack in
North America. It was the author and critic Michael Medved, an Orthodox
Jew, who pretty much summed it all up.
He made the point that even in a film as banal and forgettable as Alien
3, the secular establishment and its poodle that is media and
entertainment managed to throw a few punches. In the movie, one of the
violent sexual maniacs on a futuristic penal colony explains, "You
know, we're all fundamentalist Christians here."
This, of course, is in outer space.
One would have thought the eternal struggle against man-eating aliens
had little to do with organized religion, but apparently not.
Out of context, out of place and just dumb, it nevertheless enabled
another group of Hollywood types to bash their favourite foe.
And let us be specific here. Organized religion invariably means
Christianity. To attack an Eastern faith or even Judaism would be seen
as being politically insensitive.
As for Islam, nobody in Hollywood or the Canadian movie and television
business has the courage to risk a fatwa or two.
But in the final analysis it doesn't really matter. Tearing down
Christmas trees, banning nativity scenes, mumbling happy holidays,
preventing prayer in schools and council chambers - all the dying
spasms of the liberal culture.
Now this is important. Never think that the attack upon Christianity is
a sign of the decline of the victim. On the contrary. These attacks are
evidence of the decline of the perpetrator. So insecure in their
ideology are the atheist hordes that they try to destroy anything and
everyone that reflects and exposes their weakness.
Every little victory for the secular culture is a major triumph for the
Messiah whose birthday we are about to commemorate. Just as the Church
was persecuted most harshly by a Rome in massive decline. The darkness
before the new dawn.
The attacks also mean that the weak and watery ones fall away, leaving
the faith to serious Christians who understand they are here not to
edit but to follow Christ. So the culture-friendly types, who submit to
every whim of decadence and materialism in their pathetic effort to
remain popular, become irrelevant.
It's why the United Church will effectively disappear within 20 years,
why the Anglicans will split and their liberal wing evaporate, why the
attempt to hijack genuine Catholicism is now stone dead and why solid,
orthodox churches are growing in all corners of the world.
It's not about socialism, recycling, sexual licence, climate change,
group hugs, self-esteem or never offending anyone. It's about truth,
unchanging Scriptural absolutes, church teaching, the undeniable facts
of the virgin birth and bodily resurrection, speaking God's message
even when it hurts the speaker as well as the hearer and unending love
and forgiveness.
It's about doing what is right but never blurring the lines of what is
wrong. About exposing sin but offering salvation. It comes at a cost
but it is worth more than the world.
Have a wonderful, faithful and prayerful Christmas. Oh, and look
forward to Alien 12, in which a sad group of once influential people
will announce, "You know, we're all secular fundamentalists here." Then
be eaten by an enormous spider from Neptune.
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30 Dec 2006 01:29:06 AM |
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"Alien 3" appeared in 1992. Where are all the anti-Christian movies
today?
"The Passion of the Christ" was pro-Christian, as was "The Nativity
Story." "The Da Vinci Code" was arguably pro-Christian. It promotes a
truer version of Christianity than the standard version. Every
Christmas movie or TV special featuring a miracle is arguably
pro-Christian.
In my area of study, every movie featuring indigenous people is either
implicitly or explicitly pro-Christian. These people are shown to be
primitives or savages with little or no religion. Examples include
"King Kong," "End of the Spear," "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's
Chest," and "Apocalypto." (See
http://www.bluecorncomics.com/newsrock.htm for more on Native movies.)
In addition, "For Your Consideration" satirized Jews and Judaism.
Movies showing Muslims as terrorists or criminals are more common than
movies showing them as heroes or normal people.
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30 Dec 2006 10:29:40 AM |
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On 29 Dec 2006 23:29:06 -0800, "robschmidt@compuserve.com"
<robschmidt@compuserve.com> wrote:
The Da Vinci Code" was arguably pro-Christian. It promotes a
truer version of Christianity than the standard version.
This is an oxymoron. Like saying Osama bin Laden is non-violent ..
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28 Dec 2006 09:08:58 AM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@myway.com> writes:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1757878/posts
Christianity under attack
So? That hasn't been news for at least 2010 or so years...
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Patrick "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick@io.com) Houston, Texas
chiefinstigator.us.tt/aeros.php (TCI's 2006-07 Houston Aeros)
LAST GAME: Houston 4, Chicago 3 (SO) (December 27)
NEXT GAME: Friday, December 29 at San Antonio, 7:05
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28 Dec 2006 11:10:16 AM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@myway.com> wrote in
news:1167294688.483085.304010@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1757878/posts
Christianity under attack
TORONTO SUN ^ | Sat, December 23, 2006 | Michael Coren
Posted on 12/23/2006 4:21:49 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
As we prepare to celebrate the birthday of Jesus Christ there is surely
nobody who seriously believes that Christianity is not under attack in
North America. It was the author and critic Michael Medved, an Orthodox
Jew, who pretty much summed it all up.
He made the point that even in a film as banal and forgettable as Alien
3, the secular establishment and its poodle that is media and
entertainment managed to throw a few punches. In the movie, one of the
violent sexual maniacs on a futuristic penal colony explains, "You
know, we're all fundamentalist Christians here."
It took him this long to be offended by that? It's only been 14 years.
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Doc Smartass
"There is no society in human history that ever suffered because its
people became too reasonable." -- Sam Harris
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28 Dec 2006 08:55:33 PM |
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Doc Smartass wrote:
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@myway.com> wrote in
news:1167294688.483085.304010@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1757878/posts
Christianity under attack
TORONTO SUN ^ | Sat, December 23, 2006 | Michael Coren
Posted on 12/23/2006 4:21:49 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
As we prepare to celebrate the birthday of Jesus Christ there is surely
nobody who seriously believes that Christianity is not under attack in
North America. It was the author and critic Michael Medved, an Orthodox
Jew, who pretty much summed it all up.
He made the point that even in a film as banal and forgettable as Alien
3, the secular establishment and its poodle that is media and
entertainment managed to throw a few punches. In the movie, one of the
violent sexual maniacs on a futuristic penal colony explains, "You
know, we're all fundamentalist Christians here."
It took him this long to be offended by that? It's only been 14 years.
He's too cheap for cable. Had to wait until it was on broadcast.
-Panama Floyd, Atl.
aa#2015, Member Knights of BAAWA!
EAC Martian Commander
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man Sept 06
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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28 Dec 2006 10:28:31 PM |
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wrote in
news:1167360933.753416.73370@a3g2000cwd.googlegroups.com:
Doc Smartass wrote:
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@myway.com> wrote in
news:1167294688.483085.304010@79g2000cws.googlegroups.com:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1757878/posts
Christianity under attack
TORONTO SUN ^ | Sat, December 23, 2006 | Michael Coren
Posted on 12/23/2006 4:21:49 PM PST by FormerACLUmember
As we prepare to celebrate the birthday of Jesus Christ there is
surely nobody who seriously believes that Christianity is not under
attack in North America. It was the author and critic Michael
Medved, an Orthodox Jew, who pretty much summed it all up.
He made the point that even in a film as banal and forgettable as
Alien 3, the secular establishment and its poodle that is media and
entertainment managed to throw a few punches. In the movie, one of
the violent sexual maniacs on a futuristic penal colony explains,
"You know, we're all fundamentalist Christians here."
It took him this long to be offended by that? It's only been 14
years.
He's too cheap for cable. Had to wait until it was on broadcast.
Coulda just gone with NetFlix.
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Doc Smartass
"There is no society in human history that ever suffered because its
people became too reasonable." -- Sam Harris
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28 Dec 2006 07:24:24 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@myway.com> wrote in message
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1757878/posts
Christianity under attack
<sigh>
There you go again with your paranoia, idiocy and lies.
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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31 Dec 2006 03:03:39 PM |
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As for Islam, nobody in Hollywood or the Canadian movie and television
business has the courage to risk a fatwa or two.
are you on crack? Muslims are hollywood's whipping boy in many movies.
actually one is hard pressed to find a muslim character that isn't a
bad guy.
Peace
Zonker
http://2000ah.blogspot.com/
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01 Jan 2007 06:59:59 PM |
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zonker <rahman70810@gmail.com> wrote in message
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As for Islam, nobody in Hollywood or the Canadian movie and television
business has the courage to risk a fatwa or two.
are you on crack? Muslims are hollywood's whipping boy in many movies.
actually one is hard pressed to find a muslim character that isn't a
bad guy.
Alladin.... and his flying prayer mat..... and he got the girl at the end of
the movie too.
Peace
Zonker
http://2000ah.blogspot.com/
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| User: "zonker" |
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31 Dec 2006 02:52:54 PM |
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As for Islam, nobody in Hollywood or the Canadian movie and television
business has the courage to risk a fatwa or two.
are you on crack, Muslims are the bad guys in a huge amount of movies.
the entire plot of many of a hollywood film is nothing more than a
hatefilled xenophobic rant agaisnt islam. in fact one is hard pressed
to think of a muslim character shown in a postive light.
Peace
Zonker
http://2000ah.blogspot.com/
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| User: "Mike Schilling" |
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28 Dec 2006 03:11:43 AM |
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As we prepare to celebrate the birthday of Jesus Christ there is surely
nobody who seriously believes that Christianity is not under attack in
North America.
A piece that starts with an obvious falsehood will only go downhill.from
there.
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| User: "Anarcissie" |
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28 Dec 2006 07:05:27 AM |
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Mike Schilling wrote:
As we prepare to celebrate the birthday of Jesus Christ there is surely
nobody who seriously believes that Christianity is not under attack in
North America.
A piece that starts with an obvious falsehood will only go downhill.from
there.
Fundies believe that unless they control everyone and everything
according to their principles, which they have a right to do, they
are "under attack". If a movie makes fun of their fascistic
politics and culture, it should have been suppressed.
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| User: "George Peatty" |
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28 Dec 2006 11:18:57 AM |
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On 28 Dec 2006 05:05:27 -0800, "Anarcissie" <anarcissie@gmail.com> wrote:
Fundies believe that unless they control everyone and everything
according to their principles, which they have a right to do, they
are "under attack". If a movie makes fun of their fascistic
politics and culture, it should have been suppressed.
I am a Fundie, and you do not have a clue about what I believe ..
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29 Dec 2006 11:07:45 AM |
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George Peatty wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 05:05:27 -0800, "Anarcissie" <anarcissie@gmail.com> wrote:
Fundies believe that unless they control everyone and everything
according to their principles, which they have a right to do, they
are "under attack". If a movie makes fun of their fascistic
politics and culture, it should have been suppressed.
I am a Fundie, and you do not have a clue about what I believe ..
When you define yourself as a Fundie, rather than as a Christian, you
give us a good idea.
I am a born-again Christian, but not a fundie. I do not think that
christianity is under attack because some people believe other things. I
do not claim that marriage is under attack because some people want it.
I do not demand censorship of library and school materials because I
think that all of society should be devoted to enforcing my particular
religious beliefs. I can use the word "scientists" without "godless" in
front of it. I can recognize that "The Passion of the Christ" was a sick
bloodfest, not a spiritual experience. I do not bristle in indignation
when someone says "Happy Holidays," because I recognize that Christmas
is not the only holiday at this time of year. I do not believe that
doctors should be killed because they perform a legal service for women.
These are a few of the differences between fundies and other Christians.
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29 Dec 2006 10:22:36 AM |
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Jon Schild wrote:
George Peatty wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 05:05:27 -0800, "Anarcissie" <anarcissie@gmail.com> wrote:
Fundies believe that unless they control everyone and everything
according to their principles, which they have a right to do, they
are "under attack". If a movie makes fun of their fascistic
politics and culture, it should have been suppressed.
I am a Fundie, and you do not have a clue about what I believe ..
When you define yourself as a Fundie, rather than as a Christian, you
give us a good idea.
I am a born-again Christian, but not a fundie. I do not think that
christianity is under attack because some people believe other things. I
do not claim that marriage is under attack because some people want it.
I do not demand censorship of library and school materials because I
think that all of society should be devoted to enforcing my particular
religious beliefs. I can use the word "scientists" without "godless" in
front of it. I can recognize that "The Passion of the Christ" was a sick
bloodfest, not a spiritual experience. I do not bristle in indignation
when someone says "Happy Holidays," because I recognize that Christmas
is not the only holiday at this time of year. I do not believe that
doctors should be killed because they perform a legal service for women.
These are a few of the differences between fundies and other Christians.
I'm curious. e.g., as to whether you believe that Jesus was the son of
God and rose after three days...
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29 Dec 2006 06:12:41 PM |
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moviePig wrote:
Jon Schild wrote:
George Peatty wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 05:05:27 -0800, "Anarcissie" <anarcissie@gmail.com> wrote:
Fundies believe that unless they control everyone and everything
according to their principles, which they have a right to do, they
are "under attack". If a movie makes fun of their fascistic
politics and culture, it should have been suppressed.
I am a Fundie, and you do not have a clue about what I believe ..
When you define yourself as a Fundie, rather than as a Christian, you
give us a good idea.
I am a born-again Christian, but not a fundie. I do not think that
christianity is under attack because some people believe other things. I
do not claim that marriage is under attack because some people want it.
I do not demand censorship of library and school materials because I
think that all of society should be devoted to enforcing my particular
religious beliefs. I can use the word "scientists" without "godless" in
front of it. I can recognize that "The Passion of the Christ" was a sick
bloodfest, not a spiritual experience. I do not bristle in indignation
when someone says "Happy Holidays," because I recognize that Christmas
is not the only holiday at this time of year. I do not believe that
doctors should be killed because they perform a legal service for women.
These are a few of the differences between fundies and other Christians.
I'm curious. e.g., as to whether you believe that Jesus was the son of
God and rose after three days...
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Yes, but I will NOT be drawn into an argument on your terms using your
terminology about my beliefs. This is not the place for it.
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29 Dec 2006 05:27:06 PM |
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Jon Schild wrote:
moviePig wrote:
Jon Schild wrote:
George Peatty wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 05:05:27 -0800, "Anarcissie" <anarcissie@gmail.com> wrote:
Fundies believe that unless they control everyone and everything
according to their principles, which they have a right to do, they
are "under attack". If a movie makes fun of their fascistic
politics and culture, it should have been suppressed.
I am a Fundie, and you do not have a clue about what I believe ..
When you define yourself as a Fundie, rather than as a Christian, you
give us a good idea.
I am a born-again Christian, but not a fundie. I do not think that
christianity is under attack because some people believe other things. I
do not claim that marriage is under attack because some people want it.
I do not demand censorship of library and school materials because I
think that all of society should be devoted to enforcing my particular
religious beliefs. I can use the word "scientists" without "godless" in
front of it. I can recognize that "The Passion of the Christ" was a sick
bloodfest, not a spiritual experience. I do not bristle in indignation
when someone says "Happy Holidays," because I recognize that Christmas
is not the only holiday at this time of year. I do not believe that
doctors should be killed because they perform a legal service for women.
These are a few of the differences between fundies and other Christians.
I'm curious. e.g., as to whether you believe that Jesus was the son of
God and rose after three days...
Yes, but I will NOT be drawn into an argument on your terms using your
terminology about my beliefs. This is not the place for it.
My "terms" usually intend only to cut to the chase... and I likewise
dispute whether, except on statutory grounds, this is not "the place
for it". But I seldom wish to draw anyone unwillingly into a
discussion, whatever their reasons. And, in this instance, fwiw, I
really was merely curious... and appreciate the answer...
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30 Dec 2006 06:55:36 AM |
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moviePig <pwallace@moviepig.com> wrote in message
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Jon Schild wrote:
moviePig wrote:
Jon Schild wrote:
George Peatty wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 05:05:27 -0800, "Anarcissie" <anarcissie@gmail.com>
wrote:
Fundies believe that unless they control everyone and everything
according to their principles, which they have a right to do, they
are "under attack". If a movie makes fun of their fascistic
politics and culture, it should have been suppressed.
I am a Fundie, and you do not have a clue about what I believe ..
When you define yourself as a Fundie, rather than as a Christian, you
give us a good idea.
I am a born-again Christian, but not a fundie. I do not think that
christianity is under attack because some people believe other things.
I
do not claim that marriage is under attack because some people want
it.
I do not demand censorship of library and school materials because I
think that all of society should be devoted to enforcing my particular
religious beliefs. I can use the word "scientists" without "godless"
in
front of it. I can recognize that "The Passion of the Christ" was a
sick
bloodfest, not a spiritual experience. I do not bristle in indignation
when someone says "Happy Holidays," because I recognize that Christmas
is not the only holiday at this time of year. I do not believe that
doctors should be killed because they perform a legal service for
women.
These are a few of the differences between fundies and other
Christians.
I'm curious. e.g., as to whether you believe that Jesus was the son of
God and rose after three days...
Yes, but I will NOT be drawn into an argument on your terms using your
terminology about my beliefs. This is not the place for it.
My "terms" usually intend only to cut to the chase... and I likewise
dispute whether, except on statutory grounds, this is not "the place
for it". But I seldom wish to draw anyone unwillingly into a
discussion, whatever their reasons. And, in this instance, fwiw, I
really was merely curious... and appreciate the answer...
I would think alt.atheism was the perfect place for a fundie *****-slapping
contest....
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29 Dec 2006 10:57:54 AM |
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:07:45 -0800, Jon Schild <jjs@aros.net> wrote:
I am a born-again Christian, but not a fundie.
This statement is an oxymoron .. Do you know what Fundamentalism is? Where
the name comes from? It was a movement by evangelicals at the start of the
last century to reclaim the important doctrines of the Christian faith from
errors. Being a fundamentalist is to "contend for the faith once delivered
to the saints .."
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29 Dec 2006 02:55:34 PM |
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George Peatty <peattyg47-1230@copper.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:07:45 -0800, Jon Schild <jjs@aros.net> wrote:
I am a born-again Christian, but not a fundie.
This statement is an oxymoron .. Do you know what Fundamentalism is?
Where
the name comes from? It was a movement by evangelicals at the start of
the
last century to reclaim the important doctrines of the Christian faith
from
errors. Being a fundamentalist is to "contend for the faith once
delivered
to the saints .."
Cool...... fundy *****-fight......
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29 Dec 2006 04:11:46 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:57:54 GMT, George Peatty
<peattyg47-1230@copper.net> wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:07:45 -0800, Jon Schild <jjs@aros.net> wrote:
I am a born-again Christian, but not a fundie.
This statement is an oxymoron .. Do you know what Fundamentalism is? Where
the name comes from? It was a movement by evangelicals at the start of the
last century to reclaim the important doctrines of the Christian faith from
errors.
And man at the beginning of the 20th century after Christ, knew better
what happened 2,000 years ago then did the people who were alive at
the time.
"Error", in this case, merely means "what we don't like" - which is
all Christianity ever was, the preferences of whoever was making the
rules at the time. First it was the Nicean Council (Christianity
before that time was a dying, fragmented mixture of beliefs), then it
was Luther, then it was a few thousand others, each inventing his own
brand of "Christianity". That's why there are thousands of separate
sects today.
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29 Dec 2006 11:06:57 AM |
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 16:57:54 GMT, in alt.atheism
George Peatty <peattyg47-1230@copper.net> wrote in
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 09:07:45 -0800, Jon Schild <jjs@aros.net> wrote:
I am a born-again Christian, but not a fundie.
This statement is an oxymoron .. Do you know what Fundamentalism is? Where
the name comes from? It was a movement by evangelicals at the start of the
last century to reclaim the important doctrines of the Christian faith from
errors. Being a fundamentalist is to "contend for the faith once delivered
to the saints .."
So Jon wasn't stating an oxymoron. Yes, there are the fundamentalists
who subscribe to the doctrines taught in The Fundamentals, the twentieth
century creed of Evangelicals who reject creeds, but there is also a
more general term that applies to any religion which describes zealots
who claim to take a very literal view of their religion. Either way, one
can properly claim to be born again without subscribing to the doctrines
taught in The Fundamentals or being a reactionary religious zealot.
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29 Dec 2006 02:57:40 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:06:57 GMT, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
Either way, one
can properly claim to be born again without subscribing to the doctrines
taught in The Fundamentals or being a reactionary religious zealot.
Not the first one, not in my crowd ..
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| User: "brique" |
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| Title: Re: Movies About Space Aliens Must Insult Christians |
30 Dec 2006 06:57:11 AM |
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George Peatty <peattyg47-1230@copper.net> wrote in message
news:g90bp29vki95mvtnjjhtkl39e4btgr345a@4ax.com...
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:06:57 GMT, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
Either way, one
can properly claim to be born again without subscribing to the doctrines
taught in The Fundamentals or being a reactionary religious zealot.
Not the first one, not in my crowd ..
Hoiww many fundies does it take to change a light bulb?
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| User: "Martin Kaletsch" |
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| Title: Re: Movies About Space Aliens Must Insult Christians |
30 Dec 2006 09:09:35 AM |
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brique wrote:
Hoiww many fundies does it take to change a light bulb?
None, they have yet to discover fire!
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Martin Kaletsch
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| User: "Ghod" |
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| Title: Re: Movies About Space Aliens Must Insult Christians |
30 Dec 2006 02:24:19 AM |
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George Peatty wrote:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:06:57 GMT, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
Either way, one
can properly claim to be born again without subscribing to the doctrines
taught in The Fundamentals or being a reactionary religious zealot.
Not the first one, not in my crowd ..
Your belief that you/your group makes the rules is quite silly....and
quite mistaken.
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| User: "Free Lunch" |
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| Title: Re: Movies About Space Aliens Must Insult Christians |
29 Dec 2006 04:48:49 PM |
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On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 20:57:40 GMT, in alt.atheism
George Peatty <peattyg47-1230@copper.net> wrote in
<g90bp29vki95mvtnjjhtkl39e4btgr345a@4ax.com>:
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:06:57 GMT, Free Lunch <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote:
Either way, one
can properly claim to be born again without subscribing to the doctrines
taught in The Fundamentals or being a reactionary religious zealot.
Not the first one, not in my crowd ..
Have you tuned your bagpipes for your No True Scotsman fallacy?
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| User: "Pastor Kutchie, ordained atheist minister" |
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| Title: Re: Movies About Space Aliens Must Insult Christians |
28 Dec 2006 01:01:43 PM |
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George Peatty wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 05:05:27 -0800, "Anarcissie" <anarcissie@gmail.com> wrote:
Fundies believe that unless they control everyone and everything
according to their principles, which they have a right to do, they
are "under attack". If a movie makes fun of their fascistic
politics and culture, it should have been suppressed.
I am a Fundie, and you do not have a clue about what I believe ..
That's because you've never seen fit to tell us, preferring instead to
resort to cheap sneers that have no substance. You could start by
telling us what YOU think of iBen's inane rants.
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| User: "Anarcissie" |
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| Title: Re: Movies About Space Aliens Must Insult Christians |
28 Dec 2006 12:11:29 PM |
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George Peatty wrote:
On 28 Dec 2006 05:05:27 -0800, "Anarcissie" <anarcissie@gmail.com> wrote:
Fundies believe that unless they control everyone and everything
according to their principles, which they have a right to do, they
are "under attack". If a movie makes fun of their fascistic
politics and culture, it should have been suppressed.
I am a Fundie, and you do not have a clue about what I believe ..
You could be an exception. I am going by the public professions
of people who seem to be generally acknowledged as leaders of
fundamentalist and Evangelical organizations. The theories that
Christianity is "under attack" if forced prayer is not required in
schools, or if Evolution is taught, or if Christianity is criticized or
made fun of in any way, are constantly encountered. If you differ
from other Christian fundamentalists on these issues you've got
your work cut out for you. However, I don't notice that you've
rebuked SoT much for his/her/its foolishness in this regard, so
it looks like you haven't even started yet. How about it?
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| User: "Howard Brazee" |
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| Title: Re: Movies About Space Aliens Must Insult Christians |
28 Dec 2006 07:36:06 PM |
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On Thu, 28 Dec 2006 12:18:57 -0500, George Peatty
<peattyg47-1230@copper.net> wrote:
I am a Fundie, and you do not have a clue about what I believe ..
Do you believe that the vast majority of God's Children will be
tortured forever and ever without hope of parole because they don't
believe in the right deity?
Do you believe that science is incredibly wrong by many orders of
magnitude about the age of the universe?
Do you believe in the Righteousness of how evil it is for gays to
marry - despite the lack of scriptural support for this?
Do you believe that you have the freedom to pick and choose which
commandments God gave in the Old Testament apply to you and which only
applied to the ancient Hebrews?
Or are you different from the vast majority fundamentalists we see?
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