"Crazyalec" <oleka2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Nikolaos D. Bougalis" <nikb@webmaster.com> wrote in message

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Then you should not have a problem providing solid, objective

evidence

to substantiate the "fact," should you?

vatican, inquisition, mormons, christians, judaism, islam.

Good try. Alas, those are not proof that religion is a business. The
last four are religions, and the rest are proof that people will do

crazy,

fucked up things and justify them under the guise of their various

religion.

A business cannot survive without customers. If for some reason all
catholics become non-catholics, Vatican will be out of business.

Who cares?

That won't make it true.

Fact is true by definition.

[ Sidenote: You should learn how to quote properly ]

Quote what?

The text that others have written, when you reply to them. Notice,

that

you put the text that I wrote ("That won't make it true") on the same

level

of indentation as your reply.

Its not on the same level in my google reader.

That won't make it true.

Fact is true by definition.

The first comment is my line, the second is yours. They are on the same
level. Idiot.

Alas, you've not presented any facts...

Running a religion is a very profitable business. Everybody knows
that, even Auntie agrees with me.

Great, but that does not mean that ALL religions are businesses.

Religion is an industry of selling a diety for a profit and power.
Different religious companies selling the same product, just like car
manufacturers selling the same product, a car.

There you go with that ***** again. Not all religions are businesses.
That has been demonstrated to you a million times over.

Some "religions" are there to make

money,

Bit it doesn't change the fact that religion is a business, and

you

are arguing about the product.

You're asserting it's a business, and it's been shown to you

that
not

all religion is a business. Yet, you continue making baseless

assertions,

and never provide any solid, objective evidence.

I never said ALL. Only those that ARE.

Then you should make that clear. When you say "religion is a

business"

without referring to any one particular religion, the rules of the

English

language suggest that you are referring to ALL religions.

Religion is a business as an industry. There is only one industry.
Those companies, that don't sell a diety, can be called spirituality
(kabbala, some forms of a buddhism).

Sorry, but you're not the one who decides what things can be called.

The problem with a religion is that they claim its a belief, when in
reality its a con game.

Whether you like it or not, religion entails belief. Here, take a look
at the definition of religion: "Belief in and reverence for a supernatural
power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe." See?
"Belief." Right there.

For the last time, religion qua religion is NOT a business. It

is a

belief in and reverence of a supernatural power (or powers) regarded

as

creator and governor of the universe.

That would be spirituality. But when they use that belief to justify
their actions, like its (a belief) is a fact, it becomes a con game of
selling an idea for a profit and power.

People always act on their beliefs -- right now, I'm acting on the
belief that arguing this with you will -- perhaps -- make you see logic,

and

get you to be more reasonable in your statements.

Thats fine. But when you start using that belief to harm a person,
then its not a belief anymore.

It's still a belief. It simply cannot be used as a means to place
oneself above the law. Paul Hill believed he was acting on behalf of God
when he took the lives of others. He violated the laws and was punished.

Christians act on their

belief, that it is their resposibility to share the Gospel. Muslims act

on

their beliefs, when they pray facing Mecca. The problem is not acting on
beliefs. The problem is breaking the laws or violating the rights others

in

doing so.

And thats what religion is famous for for thousands of years.

There you go, generalizing again... Haven't you learned anything, from
all the people who've corrected your flawed logic?

For example, you can believe that killing infidels will get you a
place in heaven with 72 virgins. You can believe all you want, just
keep it for yourself. But when you start to use it to kill innocent
people, its not a belief anymore.

It is still a belief -- albeit one that has turned you into a
cold-blooded murderer.

So if somebody has a belief that nuking terrorists is a good thing....

It's a belief. Does that make it right? No. Does the belief justify
action? No. Should someone who takes that action based solely on their
belief be held accountable? Absolutely.

That does not make ALL businessmen thieves, and by the same

token,
should

not make all religions money-making organizations.

Bad analogy.Try again

Really? That's funny, because it is the same analogy you use. Is

it

better when you use it, and bad when others do?

No, I don't use that analogy, and you shouldn't, because its a bad
analogy.

Actually, I think the analogy is quite good. Care to point out why

you

think otherwise?

religions ARE money making organizations, period. Its just a fact.

You don't know what "fact" means. That much is clear from your misuse of
the word.

islam is even worse than that. They want world domination, and using
muslim terrorist propaganda around the world to spread ideas of
Khilafah.

People -- regardless of their religious affiliation (or lack thereof)
always try to spread their ideas. Some are more fervent in doing it than
others.

Take you for example: your anti-Muslim,

Heck, your agenda for that whackjob of a pastor, whose webstore you were
advertising was clear,

guilty of peddling a product, you wised up and backed off.

-n

"Crazyalec" <oleka2000@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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"Nikolaos D. Bougalis" <nikb@webmaster.com> wrote in message

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Then you should not have a problem providing solid, objective

evidence

to substantiate the "fact," should you?

vatican, inquisition, mormons, christians, judaism, islam.

Good try. Alas, those are not proof that religion is a business. The
last four are religions, and the rest are proof that people will do

crazy,

fucked up things and justify them under the guise of their various

religion.

A business cannot survive without customers. If for some reason all
catholics become non-catholics, Vatican will be out of business.