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"Bill M" |
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14 Jan 2008 06:48:25 AM |
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EVIDENCE OF AN AUTHENTIC GOD |
I have been active in these newsgroups for many years and have yet to see
anyone supply authentic objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods
exist.
There are hundreds of different God beliefs. Is one authentic and all the
others fakes? Or all of them fakes and purely the Gods of peoples
imaginations?
How about some religious leader or believer out there supplying us with some
objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods exist.
If no one can, we must believe that all Gods are pure myths and fables and
do not actually exist.
Should we base our lives on nothing more than myths and fables???
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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| Title: Re: EVIDENCE OF AN AUTHENTIC GOD |
14 Jan 2008 04:52:31 PM |
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"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:9gNij.40981$k27.4696@bignews2.bellsouth.net...
I have been active in these newsgroups for many years and have yet to see
anyone supply authentic objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods
exist.
There are hundreds of different God beliefs. Is one authentic and all the
others fakes? Or all of them fakes and purely the Gods of peoples
imaginations?
How about some religious leader or believer out there supplying us with
some objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods exist.
If no one can, we must believe that all Gods are pure myths and fables and
do not actually exist.
Should we base our lives on nothing more than myths and fables???
nope, all gods, including the muslim and christian gods are nothing but
total and complete horseshit.
the bible is nothing more than the ***** ramblings of some superstitious
cave dwellers and goat fuckers
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| User: "bob young" |
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| Title: Re: EVIDENCE OF AN AUTHENTIC GOD |
15 Jan 2008 03:11:01 AM |
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Bill M wrote:
I have been active in these newsgroups for many years and have yet to see
anyone supply authentic objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods
exist.
There are hundreds of different God beliefs. Is one authentic and all the
others fakes? Or all of them fakes and purely the Gods of peoples
imaginations?
How about some religious leader or believer out there supplying us with some
objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods exist.
If no one can, we must believe that all Gods are pure myths and fables and
do not actually exist.
Should we base our lives on nothing more than myths and fables???
We certainly should not, if we are to avoid the next world conflagration that
could well be called 'The first Nuclear reiigious word War' it may well wipe
half of us out when Islam gets parity with the West in terms of nuclear weapons
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| User: "Bill M" |
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| Title: Re: EVIDENCE OF AN AUTHENTIC GOD |
14 Jan 2008 01:57:37 PM |
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Evidence of an authentic god is that there are hundreds of them and NONE of
them have actually spoken to us or saved us from painful accidents or
diseases!
The only authentic god is those in peoples over active imaginations!
"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <killgod@killgod.com> wrote in message
news:85woribxodwoe26@corp.supernews.com...
in God as their whole and everlasting
portion; and of their ardent and longing desire after God, to have
communion with Him; and others, more of their abhorrence to themselves
for their past sins, and earnest longings to live to God's glory for the
time to come. But it seems evidently to be the same work, the same
habitual change wrought in the heart; it all tends the same way, and to
the same end; and it is plainly the same spirit that breathes and acts
in various persons. There is an endless variety in the particular manner
and circumstances in which persons are wrought on; and an opportunity of
seeing so much will show that God is further from confining Himself to a
particular method in His work on souls than some imagine. I believe it
has occasioned some good people amongst us, who were before too ready to
make their own experience a rule to others, to be less censorious and
more extended in their charity; and this is an excellent advantage
indeed. The work of God has been glorious in its variety; it has the
more displayed the manifold and unsearchable wisdom of God, and wrought
more charity among His people.
There is a great difference among those who are converted, as to the
degree of hope and satisfaction they have concerning their own state.
Some have a high degree of satisfaction in this matter almost
constantly; and yet it is rare that any enjoy so full an assurance of
their interest in Christ that self-examination should seem needless to
them; unless it be at particular seasons, while in the actual enjoyment
of some great discovery God gives of His glory and rich grace in Christ,
to the drawing forth of extraordinary acts of grace. But the greater
part, as they sometimes fall into dead frames of spirit, are frequently
exercised with scruples and fears concerning their condition.
They generally have an awful apprehension of the dreadful nature of a
false hope; and there has been observable in most
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: EVIDENCE OF AN AUTHENTIC GOD |
14 Jan 2008 06:59:56 PM |
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:48:25 -0000, "Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
I have been active in these newsgroups for many years and have yet to see
anyone supply authentic objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods
exist.
I have repeatedly presented evidence for several real gods.
Amongst them:
* The Sun
* Prince Phillip
* The Emporer of Japan
There are hundreds of different God beliefs. Is one authentic and all the
others fakes? Or all of them fakes and purely the Gods of peoples
imaginations?
How about some religious leader or believer out there supplying us with some
objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods exist.
If no one can, we must believe that all Gods are pure myths and fables and
do not actually exist.
Should we base our lives on nothing more than myths and fables???
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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| Title: Re: EVIDENCE OF AN AUTHENTIC GOD |
14 Jan 2008 07:06:56 PM |
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:29:56 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:48:25 -0000, "Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
I have been active in these newsgroups for many years and have yet to see
anyone supply authentic objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods
exist.
I have repeatedly presented evidence for several real gods.
Amongst them:
* The Sun
* Prince Phillip
* The Emporer of Japan
Unfortunately just because some people worship them as gods, that
doesn't make them such in the real world.
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| User: "Pastor Frank" |
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| Title: Re: EVIDENCE OF AN AUTHENTIC GOD |
15 Jan 2008 07:21:01 PM |
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"Christopher A.Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:0o1oo3lglqerka049ahnohsh9g1g9ertpd@4ax.com...
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:29:56 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:48:25 -0000, "Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
I have been active in these newsgroups for many years and have yet to see
anyone supply authentic objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods
exist.
I have repeatedly presented evidence for several real gods.
Amongst them:
* The Sun
* Prince Phillip
* The Emporer of Japan
Unfortunately just because some people worship them as gods, that
doesn't make them such in the real world.
"God" has nothing to do with physical things, like the sun, Prince
Philip or even the Emperor of Japan, but with spiritual matters of quality
and perfection. No wonder you are an atheist, for you are totally clueless
as to what anything means.
Pastor Frank
Our Christian "God is love" (1 John 4:8,16) become fully manifested in
Jesus Christ giving His life for us sinners on the cross of Calvary. We
therefore know our God and have seen Him. (Jesus in John 14:6-10)
Atheists don't know our God and therefore cannot recognise Him, (Jesus
in John 3:3)
--
Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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| Title: Re: EVIDENCE OF AN AUTHENTIC GOD |
16 Jan 2008 05:12:47 AM |
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"Pastor Frank" <PF@christfirst.edu> wrote in message
news:478d51fe$0$3042$88260bb3@free.teranews.com...
"Christopher A.Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:0o1oo3lglqerka049ahnohsh9g1g9ertpd@4ax.com...
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:29:56 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:48:25 -0000, "Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
I have been active in these newsgroups for many years and have yet to
see
anyone supply authentic objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods
exist.
I have repeatedly presented evidence for several real gods.
Amongst them:
* The Sun
* Prince Phillip
* The Emporer of Japan
Unfortunately just because some people worship them as gods, that
doesn't make them such in the real world.
"God" has nothing to do with physical things, like the sun, Prince
Philip or even the Emperor of Japan, but with spiritual matters of
quality and perfection. No wonder you are an atheist, for you are totally
clueless as to what anything means.
so then you're admitting that the stories in the bible are a crock of crap
and are just the overactive imagination of some ancient superstitious cave
dwellers and goat fuckers?
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| User: "Richard Anacker" |
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| Title: Re: EVIDENCE OF AN AUTHENTIC GOD |
16 Jan 2008 01:45:59 AM |
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Pastor Frank , 01.16.2008:
Unfortunately just because some people worship them as gods, that
doesn't make them such in the real world.
"God" has nothing to do with physical things, like the sun, Prince
Philip or even the Emperor of Japan, but with spiritual matters of quality
and perfection. No wonder you are an atheist, for you are totally clueless
as to what anything means.
read again, pastor.
Unfortunately just because some people worship them as gods, that
doesn't make them such in the real world.
You non't understand that, do you?
greets
richie
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F'up2: alt.christnet.evangelical
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"Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it
ceases
to be serious when people laugh."
- George Bernard Shaw
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: EVIDENCE OF AN AUTHENTIC GOD |
15 Jan 2008 12:13:38 AM |
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On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:06:56 -0500, Christopher A.Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:29:56 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:48:25 -0000, "Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
I have been active in these newsgroups for many years and have yet to see
anyone supply authentic objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods
exist.
I have repeatedly presented evidence for several real gods.
Amongst them:
* The Sun
* Prince Phillip
* The Emporer of Japan
Unfortunately just because some people worship them as gods, that
doesn't make them such in the real world.
But until someone can coherently define "god" or "gods", my claim
stands as being eminently reasonable.
Can you define a "god"?
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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| Title: Re: EVIDENCE OF AN AUTHENTIC GOD |
15 Jan 2008 01:13:11 AM |
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:43:38 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:06:56 -0500, Christopher A.Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:29:56 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:48:25 -0000, "Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
I have been active in these newsgroups for many years and have yet to see
anyone supply authentic objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods
exist.
I have repeatedly presented evidence for several real gods.
Amongst them:
* The Sun
* Prince Phillip
* The Emporer of Japan
Unfortunately just because some people worship them as gods, that
doesn't make them such in the real world.
But until someone can coherently define "god" or "gods", my claim
stands as being eminently reasonable.
Can you define a "god"?
Only in terms of the belief and who believes it.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: EVIDENCE OF AN AUTHENTIC GOD |
15 Jan 2008 02:51:26 AM |
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On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 02:13:11 -0500, Christopher A.Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 16:43:38 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 20:06:56 -0500, Christopher A.Lee
<calee@optonline.net> wrote:
On Tue, 15 Jan 2008 11:29:56 +1030, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:48:25 -0000, "Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net>
wrote:
I have been active in these newsgroups for many years and have yet to see
anyone supply authentic objective verifiable evidence that ANY REAL Gods
exist.
I have repeatedly presented evidence for several real gods.
Amongst them:
* The Sun
* Prince Phillip
* The Emporer of Japan
Unfortunately just because some people worship them as gods, that
doesn't make them such in the real world.
But until someone can coherently define "god" or "gods", my claim
stands as being eminently reasonable.
Can you define a "god"?
Only in terms of the belief and who believes it.
Then how is that different from my above offering?
Or how does it exclude them?
The belief and the believers in the above are extant, numerous, and
utterly sincere.
I do not understand the "essential" difference between your
definition, and my clear examples of same.
I have quizzed many folk, atheist and not, but am yet to get a
coherent and consistent reply, apart from "Apostate", (I think), who
agrees with me.
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| User: "Bill M" |
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| Title: Re: EVIDENCE OF AN AUTHENTIC GOD |
15 Jan 2008 05:52:26 AM |
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This appears to be a forgery.
"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <killgod@killgod.com> wrote in message
news:85woribxodwoe26@corp.supernews.com...
in God as their whole and everlasting
portion; and of their ardent and longing desire after God, to have
communion with Him; and others, more of their abhorrence to themselves
for their past sins, and earnest longings to live to God's glory for the
time to come. But it seems evidently to be the same work, the same
habitual change wrought in the heart; it all tends the same way, and to
the same end; and it is plainly the same spirit that breathes and acts
in various persons. There is an endless variety in the particular manner
and circumstances in which persons are wrought on; and an opportunity of
seeing so much will show that God is further from confining Himself to a
particular method in His work on souls than some imagine. I believe it
has occasioned some good people amongst us, who were before too ready to
make their own experience a rule to others, to be less censorious and
more extended in their charity; and this is an excellent advantage
indeed. The work of God has been glorious in its variety; it has the
more displayed the manifold and unsearchable wisdom of God, and wrought
more charity among His people.
There is a great difference among those who are converted, as to the
degree of hope and satisfaction they have concerning their own state.
Some have a high degree of satisfaction in this matter almost
constantly; and yet it is rare that any enjoy so full an assurance of
their interest in Christ that self-examination should seem needless to
them; unless it be at particular seasons, while in the actual enjoyment
of some great discovery God gives of His glory and rich grace in Christ,
to the drawing forth of extraordinary acts of grace. But the greater
part, as they sometimes fall into dead frames of spirit, are frequently
exercised with scruples and fears concerning their condition.
They generally have an awful apprehension of the dreadful nature of a
false hope; and there has been observable in most
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| User: "SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" |
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| Title: Re: EVIDENCE OF AN AUTHENTIC GOD |
15 Jan 2008 11:49:26 AM |
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"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:Ix5jj.73128$L%6.27309@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
This appears to be a forgery.
"SheBlewHimDidYouBlowHim" <killgod@killgod.com> wrote in message
news:85woribxodwoe26@corp.supernews.com...
yes that was a forgery, the christian nutcases don't pay attention to the
news server it's coming from for one of the most basic things . .
it is quite comical to upset the christian nuts and the lengths they go to
amazing that the christian retards an NEVER provide any OBJECTABLE,
VERIFIABLE EVIDENCE for their horseshit claims
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LMAO
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