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Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Budikka666" |
| Date: |
06 Nov 2005 11:20:26 PM |
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Evidence of "Macroevolution" - Examples 609 - 615 |
609.
The fossil record shows five major times of mass extinction and
subsequent rediversification of organisms:
The Ordovician-Silurian (440-450 million years ago). 27% of all
families and 57% of all genera became extinct.
The Devonian (375 million years ago). 19% of all families and 50% of
all genera went extinct.
The Permian-Triassic (251 million years ago). 57% of all families and
83% of all genera went extinct.
The Triassic-Jurassic (205 million years ago). 3% of all families and
48% of all genera went extinct.
The Cretaceous-Tertiary (65 million years ago). 17% of all families
and 50% of all genera went extinct.
Read more detail here:
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/extinction/
This means that organisms were, for whatever reason, wiped out en masse
and new organisms arose over time to replace them. The sixth major
extinction is going on right now. If there is no so-called
macroevolution, how did this repeated rediversification take place?
610.
If there is no so-called "macroevolution", where did a family of five
filoviruses come from?
http://tinyurl.com/7als7
Did they "vary" from the male and female "kind" of virus on the ark?
Did a god specially create five separate hemorrhagic viruses where none
would do? Or did they evolve?
611.
http://tinyurl.com/dwsjd
Details the evolution of the mammalian vagina. It had to be
macroevolution and none of it makes sense if you try to purvey it
through non-existent so-called intelligent so-called design "pathways".
612.
Evolution of red and green color vision in vertebrates;
http://www.genetics.org/cgi/content/full/158/4/1697
613.
Cichlid fish in the East African Rift Valley lakes (also mentioned in
Richard Dawkins's "The Ancestor's Tale" pps 336-344:
http://hcgs.unh.edu/CichlidEvol/CichlidEvol.html
http://omniomix.com/inthenews.php?id=46150
There are three main lakes: Malawi, Tanganyika, and Victoria. each
containing about the same number of species, but each set of species
differing from the set in the other two lakes. The result of a genetic
survey in Victoria and surrounding aquatic bodies showed that about
100,000 years ago (which ties in to geological dating of the lake),
there began a diversification of species (in other words, there began
significant macroevolution).
614.
The idea that wings arose from gills is supported by this:
http://pharyngula.org/index/weblog/comments/flap_those_gills_and_fly/
but it begs a parallel question: Wouldn't a gills-to-wings transition
require a simultaneous change in gas exchange? Yep! here it is:
http://pandasthumb.org/archives/2005/10/pharyngula_an_e.html
Macroevolution and an example of a prediction evolution science made
which was fulfilled!
615.
And since DaveJr (but curiously, not the poster using the handle
"axolotl"!) suggested that I include the axolotl in this series, here
it is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axolotl
http://www.axolotl.org/
This is not only an example of macroevolution, it's also almost a
single-organism transitional series, and it's also one that defies
explanation from the creationists and the so-called intelligent
so-called design advocates.
The axolotl has both gills and lungs, and can breathe through its skin
(why, if it was intelligently designed?!). It spends its whole life in
the larval stage (rather like many fundies who post messages to
alt.atheism) because it has lost the genetics to continue its growth
into adult form. It can evolve into an adult salamander when
artificially induced to do so, but this tends to shorten its life.
This begs so many questions as to make a person dizzy in trying to
figure out which to ask first.
Why would a god design a creature whose life is significantly shorter
when it grows up that if it retains childhood throughout its life? Was
this a mistake this god made? Is this the only way this god could give
humans a decent life span - by inducing neoteny in them? Did he get
the idea from the axolotl?
Did Noah have two axolotls on his ark? If so, how did they get there
from Mexico, and how did they return after the flood receded? Or were
there just two salamanders on the ark, in which case, macroevolution
must have taken place to arrive at the axolotl and all the other
salamanders which exist today.
The axolotl can regrow limbs. Why can't we, if we're the pinnacle of
creation? And if a brand new limb can be regrown from nothing, where
is the foundation for the creationist objection to macroevolution?
Budikka
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