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"Ultra" |
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04 Jan 2008 09:50:43 PM |
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Evil - outweighed by free will |
Subject line says it all.
People claim God does not exist because he/she/it would not allow evil in
the world. The fact of the matter is that if there is any evil, it is
outweighed by the fact the we have free will.
That there is evil in the world does not mean there is no God.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Evil - outweighed by free will |
07 Jan 2008 09:50:14 AM |
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"Just James" <post_master@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Meteorite Debris wrote:
Last time that great scribe Ultra <ultra@ultra.ultra> chipped away at
his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
"Meteorite Debris" <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote in message
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Last time that great scribe Ultra <ultra@ultra.ultra> chipped away at
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"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jan 4, 10:50 pm, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
Subject line says it all.
People claim God does not exist because he/she/it would not allow
evil in
the world. The fact of the matter is that if there is any evil, it
is
outweighed by the fact the we have free will.
That there is evil in the world does not mean there is no God.
According to your Bible God is the source of all good and all evil.
Of course, but the net goodness is still positive due to the existence
of
free will.
Your post is trivial, there is so much that proves your God does not
exist.
There is in fact nothing.
Isaiah 45:7
I don't have a bible handy. Can you quote the verse?
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I
the lord do all these things"
So if everything God does is infinite, does that mean he is also
infinitely evil?
No, that would be David Warner in "Time Bandits" ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Savageduck" |
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| Title: Re: Evil - outweighed by free will |
05 Jan 2008 07:09:30 PM |
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On 2008-01-04 21:05:30 -0800, Meteorite Debris
<epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> said:
Last time that great scribe Ultra <ultra@ultra.ultra> chipped away at
his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:39dbd986-0a6c-43cb-93d8-85afa7326107@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 4, 10:50 pm, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
Subject line says it all.
People claim God does not exist because he/she/it would not allow evil in
the world. The fact of the matter is that if there is any evil, it is
outweighed by the fact the we have free will.
That there is evil in the world does not mean there is no God.
According to your Bible God is the source of all good and all evil.
Of course, but the net goodness is still positive due to the existence
of free will.
Your post is trivial, there is so much that proves your God does not
exist.
There is in fact nothing.
Isaiah 45:7
I call your Isaiah 45:7 with my Bucky 2:3 and raise you a Lenny 1:2
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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| Title: Re: Evil - outweighed by free will |
05 Jan 2008 07:25:00 PM |
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Last time that great scribe Savageduck <savageduck@savage.net> chipped
away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
On 2008-01-04 21:05:30 -0800, Meteorite Debris
<epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> said:
Last time that great scribe Ultra <ultra@ultra.ultra> chipped away at
his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:39dbd986-0a6c-43cb-93d8-85afa7326107@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 4, 10:50 pm, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
Subject line says it all.
People claim God does not exist because he/she/it would not allow evil in
the world. The fact of the matter is that if there is any evil, it is
outweighed by the fact the we have free will.
That there is evil in the world does not mean there is no God.
According to your Bible God is the source of all good and all evil.
Of course, but the net goodness is still positive due to the existence
of free will.
Your post is trivial, there is so much that proves your God does not
exist.
There is in fact nothing.
Isaiah 45:7
I call your Isaiah 45:7 with my Bucky 2:3 and raise you a Lenny 1:2
I'll raise your Becky with my Becky 2.44.
--
Remove both YOUR_SHOES before replying
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2009
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make
you commit atrocities." - Voltaire
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Evil - outweighed by free will |
07 Jan 2008 09:51:31 AM |
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"Meteorite Debris" <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:MPG.21ead1efb2b8d4cb9898ea@news.ade.connect.com.au...
Last time that great scribe Savageduck <savageduck@savage.net> chipped
away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
On 2008-01-04 21:05:30 -0800, Meteorite Debris
<epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> said:
Last time that great scribe Ultra <ultra@ultra.ultra> chipped away at
his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:39dbd986-0a6c-43cb-93d8-85afa7326107@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 4, 10:50 pm, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
Subject line says it all.
People claim God does not exist because he/she/it would not allow
evil in
the world. The fact of the matter is that if there is any evil, it
is
outweighed by the fact the we have free will.
That there is evil in the world does not mean there is no God.
According to your Bible God is the source of all good and all evil.
Of course, but the net goodness is still positive due to the existence
of free will.
Your post is trivial, there is so much that proves your God does not
exist.
There is in fact nothing.
Isaiah 45:7
I call your Isaiah 45:7 with my Bucky 2:3 and raise you a Lenny 1:2
I'll raise your Becky with my Becky 2.44.
I'll take you all out with a Victoria 34D.
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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| Title: Re: Evil - outweighed by free will |
07 Jan 2008 06:48:46 PM |
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Last time that great scribe Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com>
chipped away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
"Meteorite Debris" <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:MPG.21ead1efb2b8d4cb9898ea@news.ade.connect.com.au...
Last time that great scribe Savageduck <savageduck@savage.net> chipped
away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
On 2008-01-04 21:05:30 -0800, Meteorite Debris
<epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> said:
Last time that great scribe Ultra <ultra@ultra.ultra> chipped away at
his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:39dbd986-0a6c-43cb-93d8-85afa7326107@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 4, 10:50 pm, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
Subject line says it all.
People claim God does not exist because he/she/it would not allow
evil in
the world. The fact of the matter is that if there is any evil, it
is
outweighed by the fact the we have free will.
That there is evil in the world does not mean there is no God.
According to your Bible God is the source of all good and all evil.
Of course, but the net goodness is still positive due to the existence
of free will.
Your post is trivial, there is so much that proves your God does not
exist.
There is in fact nothing.
Isaiah 45:7
I call your Isaiah 45:7 with my Bucky 2:3 and raise you a Lenny 1:2
I'll raise your Becky with my Becky 2.44.
I'll take you all out with a Victoria 34D.
Too much for me. I can't even fill an A cup. :-)
--
Remove both YOUR_SHOES before replying
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2009
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make
you commit atrocities." - Voltaire
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Evil - outweighed by free will |
08 Jan 2008 07:56:25 AM |
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"Meteorite Debris" <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote in message
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Last time that great scribe Robibnikoff <witchypoo@broomstick.com>
chipped away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
"Meteorite Debris" <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:MPG.21ead1efb2b8d4cb9898ea@news.ade.connect.com.au...
Last time that great scribe Savageduck <savageduck@savage.net> chipped
away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
On 2008-01-04 21:05:30 -0800, Meteorite Debris
<epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> said:
Last time that great scribe Ultra <ultra@ultra.ultra> chipped away
at
his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:39dbd986-0a6c-43cb-93d8-85afa7326107@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 4, 10:50 pm, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
Subject line says it all.
People claim God does not exist because he/she/it would not allow
evil in
the world. The fact of the matter is that if there is any evil,
it
is
outweighed by the fact the we have free will.
That there is evil in the world does not mean there is no God.
According to your Bible God is the source of all good and all
evil.
Of course, but the net goodness is still positive due to the
existence
of free will.
Your post is trivial, there is so much that proves your God does
not
exist.
There is in fact nothing.
Isaiah 45:7
I call your Isaiah 45:7 with my Bucky 2:3 and raise you a Lenny 1:2
I'll raise your Becky with my Becky 2.44.
I'll take you all out with a Victoria 34D.
Too much for me. I can't even fill an A cup. :-)
LOL - Sometimes I wish I had that "problem" myself ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Savageduck" |
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| Title: Re: Evil - outweighed by free will |
07 Jan 2008 07:13:54 PM |
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On 2008-01-07 07:51:31 -0800, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> said:
"Meteorite Debris" <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote in
message news:MPG.21ead1efb2b8d4cb9898ea@news.ade.connect.com.au...
Last time that great scribe Savageduck <savageduck@savage.net> chipped
away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
On 2008-01-04 21:05:30 -0800, Meteorite Debris
<epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> said:
Last time that great scribe Ultra <ultra@ultra.ultra> chipped away at
his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:39dbd986-0a6c-43cb-93d8-85afa7326107@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 4, 10:50 pm, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
Subject line says it all.
People claim God does not exist because he/she/it would not allow evil in
the world. The fact of the matter is that if there is any evil, it is
outweighed by the fact the we have free will.
That there is evil in the world does not mean there is no God.
According to your Bible God is the source of all good and all evil.
Of course, but the net goodness is still positive due to the existence
of free will.
Your post is trivial, there is so much that proves your God does not
exist.
There is in fact nothing.
Isaiah 45:7
I call your Isaiah 45:7 with my Bucky 2:3 and raise you a Lenny 1:2
I'll raise your Becky with my Becky 2.44.
I'll take you all out with a Victoria 34D.
I fold.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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08 Jan 2008 07:56:53 AM |
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"Savageduck" <savageduck@savage.net> wrote in message
news:200801071713547826-savageduck@savagenet...
On 2008-01-07 07:51:31 -0800, "Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com>
said:
"Meteorite Debris" <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:MPG.21ead1efb2b8d4cb9898ea@news.ade.connect.com.au...
Last time that great scribe Savageduck <savageduck@savage.net> chipped
away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
On 2008-01-04 21:05:30 -0800, Meteorite Debris
<epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> said:
Last time that great scribe Ultra <ultra@ultra.ultra> chipped away at
his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:39dbd986-0a6c-43cb-93d8-85afa7326107@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 4, 10:50 pm, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
Subject line says it all.
People claim God does not exist because he/she/it would not allow
evil in
the world. The fact of the matter is that if there is any evil, it
is
outweighed by the fact the we have free will.
That there is evil in the world does not mean there is no God.
According to your Bible God is the source of all good and all evil.
Of course, but the net goodness is still positive due to the
existence
of free will.
Your post is trivial, there is so much that proves your God does not
exist.
There is in fact nothing.
Isaiah 45:7
I call your Isaiah 45:7 with my Bucky 2:3 and raise you a Lenny 1:2
I'll raise your Becky with my Becky 2.44.
I'll take you all out with a Victoria 34D.
I fold.
Woohoo! I win! ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Apostate" |
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04 Jan 2008 11:38:16 PM |
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On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:06:03 +1000, "Ultra" <ultra@ultra.ultra> wrote:
"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:39dbd986-0a6c-43cb-93d8-85afa7326107@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 4, 10:50 pm, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
Subject line says it all.
People claim God does not exist because he/she/it would not allow evil in
the world. The fact of the matter is that if there is any evil, it is
outweighed by the fact the we have free will.
That there is evil in the world does not mean there is no God.
According to your Bible God is the source of all good and all evil.
Of course, but the net goodness is still positive due to the existence of
free will.
Please define this property so we can tell it apart from, say, chocolatiness, or joy.
Then, if you'd be so kind, please show us that it exists as you claim (and makes any difference
from its not existing.) Bear in mind, unsupported claims won't count.
Thank you in advance for your best effort.
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Apostate a.a. #1931
..sig currently undergoing maintenance
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| User: "Terry Austin" |
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04 Jan 2008 11:52:59 PM |
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Apostate <godless.*****@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote in
news:9m5un3dfbnihe1sqrofqjtuptuuimcuco5@4ax.com:
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:06:03 +1000, "Ultra" <ultra@ultra.ultra> wrote:
"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:39dbd986-0a6c-43cb-93d8-85afa7326107@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com..
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On Jan 4, 10:50 pm, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
Subject line says it all.
People claim God does not exist because he/she/it would not allow
evil in the world. The fact of the matter is that if there is any
evil, it is outweighed by the fact the we have free will.
That there is evil in the world does not mean there is no God.
According to your Bible God is the source of all good and all evil.
Of course, but the net goodness is still positive due to the existence
of free will.
Please define this property so we can tell it apart from, say,
chocolatiness, or joy.
Then, if you'd be so kind, please show us that it exists as you claim
(and makes any difference from its not existing.) Bear in mind,
unsupported claims won't count.
So, in your world, there is no such thing as love, beauty, honor, or any of
the things that most people value the most. Because you cannot objectively
define them, nor can you show that they exist.
What a sad, empty life you must live.
--
Terry Austin
Beware the other head of science. It bites.
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| User: "Olrik" |
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05 Jan 2008 12:05:44 AM |
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On Jan 5, 12:52 am, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Apostate <godless.bast...@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote innews:9m5un3dfbnihe1sqrofqjtuptuuimcuco5@4ax.com:
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:06:03 +1000, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:39dbd986-0a6c-43cb-93d8-85afa7326107@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com..
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On Jan 4, 10:50 pm, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
Subject line says it all.
People claim God does not exist because he/she/it would not allow
evil in the world. The fact of the matter is that if there is any
evil, it is outweighed by the fact the we have free will.
That there is evil in the world does not mean there is no God.
According to your Bible God is the source of all good and all evil.
Of course, but the net goodness is still positive due to the existence
of free will.
Please define this property so we can tell it apart from, say,
chocolatiness, or joy.
Then, if you'd be so kind, please show us that it exists as you claim
(and makes any difference from its not existing.) Bear in mind,
unsupported claims won't count.
So, in your world, there is no such thing as love, beauty, honor, or any of
the things that most people value the most.
Yes, they're valued by most people, but specifics are not.
Because you cannot objectively
define them, nor can you show that they exist.
Fleeting human emotions. They *do* exist in your brain. Since we're
biologically the same, we do know that these emotions are pretty much
the same for everybody, but not the specifics.
Olrik
What a sad, empty life you must live.
--
Terry Austin
Beware the other head of science. It bites.
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| User: "Terry Austin" |
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05 Jan 2008 12:10:23 AM |
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Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> wrote in
news:4ad3c890-b255-472e-aecd-28e173dbba8c@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
On Jan 5, 12:52 am, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Apostate <godless.bast...@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote
innews:9m5un3dfbnihe1sqrofqjtuptuuimcuco5@4ax.com:
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:06:03 +1000, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra>
wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:39dbd986-0a6c-43cb-93d8-85afa7326107@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.co
m.. .
On Jan 4, 10:50 pm, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
Subject line says it all.
People claim God does not exist because he/she/it would not
allow evil in the world. The fact of the matter is that if
there is any evil, it is outweighed by the fact the we have free
will.
That there is evil in the world does not mean there is no God.
According to your Bible God is the source of all good and all
evil.
Of course, but the net goodness is still positive due to the
existence of free will.
Please define this property so we can tell it apart from, say,
chocolatiness, or joy.
Then, if you'd be so kind, please show us that it exists as you
claim (and makes any difference from its not existing.) Bear in
mind, unsupported claims won't count.
So, in your world, there is no such thing as love, beauty, honor, or
any of the things that most people value the most.
Yes, they're valued by most people, but specifics are not.
Belief is a diety is valued by most people, but specifics are not.
Because you cannot objectively
define them, nor can you show that they exist.
Fleeting human emotions. They *do* exist in your brain.
Prove it. Bear in mind, unsupported claims won't count.
Since we're
biologically the same, we do know that these emotions are pretty much
the same for everybody, but not the specifics.
We know a lot of things that aren't true. You can't prove it.
--
Terry Austin
Beware the other head of science. It bites.
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| User: "Olrik" |
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05 Jan 2008 12:21:35 AM |
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On Jan 5, 1:10 am, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Olrik <olrik...@gmail.com> wrote innews:4ad3c890-b255-472e-aecd-28e173dbba8c@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
On Jan 5, 12:52 am, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Apostate <godless.bast...@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote
innews:9m5un3dfbnihe1sqrofqjtuptuuimcuco5@4ax.com:
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:06:03 +1000, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra>
wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:39dbd986-0a6c-43cb-93d8-85afa7326107@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.co
m.. .
On Jan 4, 10:50 pm, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
Subject line says it all.
People claim God does not exist because he/she/it would not
allow evil in the world. The fact of the matter is that if
there is any evil, it is outweighed by the fact the we have free
will.
That there is evil in the world does not mean there is no God.
According to your Bible God is the source of all good and all
evil.
Of course, but the net goodness is still positive due to the
existence of free will.
Please define this property so we can tell it apart from, say,
chocolatiness, or joy.
Then, if you'd be so kind, please show us that it exists as you
claim (and makes any difference from its not existing.) Bear in
mind, unsupported claims won't count.
So, in your world, there is no such thing as love, beauty, honor, or
any of the things that most people value the most.
Yes, they're valued by most people, but specifics are not.
Belief is a diety is valued by most people, but specifics are not.
So "beliefs" are an emotion? That actually would make sense.
Because you cannot objectively
define them, nor can you show that they exist.
Fleeting human emotions. They *do* exist in your brain.
Prove it. Bear in mind, unsupported claims won't count.
No problem. Go to a clinic (or any drug dealer) and ask for LSD. Ask a
"before" and "after" tape.
Since we're
biologically the same, we do know that these emotions are pretty much
the same for everybody, but not the specifics.
We know a lot of things that aren't true.
Name one, just for the sake of argument.
You can't prove it.
Should one try to "prove" everything our brains spout?
Olrik
P.S. : Don't abuse or misuse "proof".
O.
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Terry Austin
Beware the other head of science. It bites.
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05 Jan 2008 12:31:15 AM |
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Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> wrote in
news:2be706ed-5ccc-4366-bd23-fb2800885948@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
On Jan 5, 1:10 am, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Olrik <olrik...@gmail.com> wrote
innews:4ad3c890-b255-472e-aecd-28e173dbba8c@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.c
om:
On Jan 5, 12:52 am, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Apostate <godless.bast...@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote
innews:9m5un3dfbnihe1sqrofqjtuptuuimcuco5@4ax.com:
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:06:03 +1000, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra>
wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:39dbd986-0a6c-43cb-93d8-85afa7326107@e6g2000prf.googlegroups
.co m.. .
On Jan 4, 10:50 pm, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
Subject line says it all.
People claim God does not exist because he/she/it would not
allow evil in the world. The fact of the matter is that if
there is any evil, it is outweighed by the fact the we have
free will.
That there is evil in the world does not mean there is no
God.
According to your Bible God is the source of all good and all
evil.
Of course, but the net goodness is still positive due to the
existence of free will.
Please define this property so we can tell it apart from, say,
chocolatiness, or joy.
Then, if you'd be so kind, please show us that it exists as you
claim (and makes any difference from its not existing.) Bear in
mind, unsupported claims won't count.
So, in your world, there is no such thing as love, beauty, honor,
or any of the things that most people value the most.
Yes, they're valued by most people, but specifics are not.
Belief is a diety is valued by most people, but specifics are not.
So "beliefs" are an emotion? That actually would make sense.
Indeed.
Because you cannot objectively
define them, nor can you show that they exist.
Fleeting human emotions. They *do* exist in your brain.
Prove it. Bear in mind, unsupported claims won't count.
No problem. Go to a clinic (or any drug dealer) and ask for LSD. Ask a
"before" and "after" tape.
Feel free to explain how a hallucinagenic drug proves that emotions
exist. Be specific. Cite sources.
Since we're
biologically the same, we do know that these emotions are pretty
much the same for everybody, but not the specifics.
We know a lot of things that aren't true.
Name one, just for the sake of argument.
You know that you're important.
You can't prove it.
Should one try to "prove" everything our brains spout?
One should make an effort to know what is objective, scientifically
meaningful knowledge, and what isn't. Just because something is
irrational doesn't mean it's automatically bad or useless.
Olrik
P.S. : Don't abuse or misuse "proof".
Why not? You did. Why do special rules apply to you? Very dishonest.
Typical atheist.
--
Terry Austin
Beware the other head of science. It bites.
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On Jan 5, 1:31 am, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Olrik <olrik...@gmail.com> wrote innews:2be706ed-5ccc-4366-bd23-fb2800885948@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
On Jan 5, 1:10 am, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Olrik <olrik...@gmail.com> wrote
innews:4ad3c890-b255-472e-aecd-28e173dbba8c@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.c
om:
On Jan 5, 12:52 am, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Apostate <godless.bast...@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote
innews:9m5un3dfbnihe1sqrofqjtuptuuimcuco5@4ax.com:
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:06:03 +1000, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra>
wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:39dbd986-0a6c-43cb-93d8-85afa7326107@e6g2000prf.googlegroups
.co m.. .
On Jan 4, 10:50 pm, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
Subject line says it all.
People claim God does not exist because he/she/it would not
allow evil in the world. The fact of the matter is that if
there is any evil, it is outweighed by the fact the we have
free will.
That there is evil in the world does not mean there is no
God.
According to your Bible God is the source of all good and all
evil.
Of course, but the net goodness is still positive due to the
existence of free will.
Please define this property so we can tell it apart from, say,
chocolatiness, or joy.
Then, if you'd be so kind, please show us that it exists as you
claim (and makes any difference from its not existing.) Bear in
mind, unsupported claims won't count.
So, in your world, there is no such thing as love, beauty, honor,
or any of the things that most people value the most.
Yes, they're valued by most people, but specifics are not.
Belief is a diety is valued by most people, but specifics are not.
So "beliefs" are an emotion? That actually would make sense.
Indeed.
Because you cannot objectively
define them, nor can you show that they exist.
Fleeting human emotions. They *do* exist in your brain.
Prove it. Bear in mind, unsupported claims won't count.
No problem. Go to a clinic (or any drug dealer) and ask for LSD. Ask a
"before" and "after" tape.
Feel free to explain how a hallucinagenic drug proves that emotions
exist. Be specific. Cite sources.
I do exist. Prove me wrong.
I do not exist. Prove me wrong.
Olrik
<snip>
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05 Jan 2008 11:54:11 AM |
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Olrik <olrik666@gmail.com> wrote in
news:5510b801-9ddb-49c8-a308-388b2ba0317b@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
On Jan 5, 1:31 am, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Olrik <olrik...@gmail.com> wrote
innews:2be706ed-5ccc-4366-bd23-fb2800885948@i12g2000prf.googlegroups.c
om:
On Jan 5, 1:10 am, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Olrik <olrik...@gmail.com> wrote
innews:4ad3c890-b255-472e-aecd-28e173dbba8c@s12g2000prg.googlegroup
s.c om:
On Jan 5, 12:52 am, Terry Austin
<terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com> wrote:
Apostate <godless.bast...@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote
innews:9m5un3dfbnihe1sqrofqjtuptuuimcuco5@4ax.com:
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:06:03 +1000, "Ultra"
<ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:39dbd986-0a6c-43cb-93d8-85afa7326107@e6g2000prf.googlegro
ups .co m.. .
On Jan 4, 10:50 pm, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
Subject line says it all.
People claim God does not exist because he/she/it would
not allow evil in the world. The fact of the matter is
that if there is any evil, it is outweighed by the fact
the we have free will.
That there is evil in the world does not mean there is no
God.
According to your Bible God is the source of all good and
all evil.
Of course, but the net goodness is still positive due to the
existence of free will.
Please define this property so we can tell it apart from,
say, chocolatiness, or joy.
Then, if you'd be so kind, please show us that it exists as
you claim (and makes any difference from its not existing.)
Bear in mind, unsupported claims won't count.
So, in your world, there is no such thing as love, beauty,
honor, or any of the things that most people value the most.
Yes, they're valued by most people, but specifics are not.
Belief is a diety is valued by most people, but specifics are not.
So "beliefs" are an emotion? That actually would make sense.
Indeed.
Because you cannot objectively
define them, nor can you show that they exist.
Fleeting human emotions. They *do* exist in your brain.
Prove it. Bear in mind, unsupported claims won't count.
No problem. Go to a clinic (or any drug dealer) and ask for LSD.
Ask a "before" and "after" tape.
Feel free to explain how a hallucinagenic drug proves that emotions
exist. Be specific. Cite sources.
I do exist. Prove me wrong.
Your claim, your responsibility to prove it. Or do different rules apply
to you than to the theists?
I do not exist. Prove me wrong.
See above.
--
Terry Austin
Beware the other head of science. It bites.
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05 Jan 2008 01:30:29 PM |
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On Jan 5, 1:10=A0am, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Olrik <olrik...@gmail.com> wrote innews:4ad3c890-b255-472e-aecd-28e173dbba=
8c@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
On Jan 5, 12:52 am, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Apostate <godless.bast...@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote
innews:9m5un3dfbnihe1sqrofqjtuptuuimcuco5@4ax.com:
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:06:03 +1000, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra>
wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:39dbd986-0a6c-43cb-93d8-85afa7326107@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.co
m.. .
On Jan 4, 10:50 pm, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
Subject line says it all.
People claim God does not exist because he/she/it would not
allow evil in the world. =A0The fact of the matter is that if
there is any evil, it is outweighed by the fact the we have free
will.
That there is evil in the world does not mean there is no God.
According to your Bible God is the source of all good and all
evil.
Of course, but the net goodness is still positive due to the
existence of free will.
Please define this property so we can tell it apart from, say,
chocolatiness, or joy.
Then, if you'd be so kind, please show us that it exists as you
claim (and makes any difference from its not existing.) =A0Bear in
mind, unsupported claims won't count.
So, in your world, there is no such thing as love, beauty, honor, or
any of the things that most people value the most.
Yes, they're valued by most people, but specifics are not.
Belief is a diety is valued by most people, but specifics are not.
Because you cannot objectively
define them, nor can you show that they exist.
Fleeting human emotions. They *do* exist in your brain.
Prove it. Bear in mind, unsupported claims won't count.
http://www.jyi.org/news/nb.php?id=3D274
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_love_top.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_pain_side.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_fear_top.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_joy_top.jpg
You're welcome.
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
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05 Jan 2008 04:27:06 PM |
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wrote in
news:e1129db5-2387-4bad-986c-14f239ed2453@v67g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
On Jan 5, 1:10 am, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Olrik <olrik...@gmail.com> wrote
innews:4ad3c890-b255-472e-aecd-28e173dbba
8c@s12g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
On Jan 5, 12:52 am, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Apostate <godless.bast...@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote
innews:9m5un3dfbnihe1sqrofqjtuptuuimcuco5@4ax.com:
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:06:03 +1000, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra>
wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:39dbd986-0a6c-43cb-93d8-85afa7326107@e6g2000prf.googlegroups
.co m.. .
On Jan 4, 10:50 pm, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
Subject line says it all.
People claim God does not exist because he/she/it would not
allow evil in the world. The fact of the matter is that if
there is any evil, it is outweighed by the fact the we have
free will.
That there is evil in the world does not mean there is no
God.
According to your Bible God is the source of all good and all
evil.
Of course, but the net goodness is still positive due to the
existence of free will.
Please define this property so we can tell it apart from, say,
chocolatiness, or joy.
Then, if you'd be so kind, please show us that it exists as you
claim (and makes any difference from its not existing.) Bear in
mind, unsupported claims won't count.
So, in your world, there is no such thing as love, beauty, honor,
or any of the things that most people value the most.
Yes, they're valued by most people, but specifics are not.
Belief is a diety is valued by most people, but specifics are not.
Because you cannot objectively
define them, nor can you show that they exist.
Fleeting human emotions. They *do* exist in your brain.
Prove it. Bear in mind, unsupported claims won't count.
http://www.jyi.org/news/nb.php?id=274
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_love_top.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_pain_side.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_fear_top.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_joy_top.jpg
A completely blank page and a bunch of pictures with no captions at all.
Thanks for admitting I'm right.
You're welcome.
You're fucking stupid.
--
Terry Austin
"Dude, we're all your *****, but only Ken's wearing the juice."
- tussock
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05 Jan 2008 05:30:15 PM |
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On Jan 5, 5:27=A0pm, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote innews:e1129db5-2387-4bad-986c-14f239ed2453@v=
67g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
snip
Fleeting human emotions. They *do* exist in your brain.
Prove it. Bear in mind, unsupported claims won't count.
http://www.jyi.org/news/nb.php?id=3D274
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_love_top.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_pain_side.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_fear_top.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_joy_top.jpg
A completely blank page and a bunch of pictures with no captions at all.
Thanks for admitting I'm right.
Lazy *****, you are...here, I've found it for you-since you're
obviously too ignorant to figure it out for yourself.
http://tinyurl.com/ynpopy
The rest of them are the images. They'll be back when the site is back
up.
You're welcome.
You're fucking stupid.
I'm smart enough to understand that websites sometimes require
maintenence, *****-for-brains.
Here, free bonus:
http://tinyurl.com/yrwbee
http://healthguide.howstuffworks.com/mri-dictionary.htm
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
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05 Jan 2008 09:14:18 PM |
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wrote in
news:548cea08-38db-4aca-bb38-33808ea47f16
@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
On Jan 5, 5:27 pm, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...
@gmail.com>
wrote:
panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote
innews:e1129db5-2387-4bad-986c-14f239ed2453@v
67g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
snip
Fleeting human emotions. They *do* exist in your
brain.
Prove it. Bear in mind, unsupported claims won't
count.
http://www.jyi.org/news/nb.php?id=274
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_love_top.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_pain_side.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_fear_top.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_joy_top.jpg
A completely blank page and a bunch of pictures with no
captions at
all. Thanks for admitting I'm right.
Lazy *****, you are...
Beacuse I can't read your mind? I got a blank page, and
four pictures
with no captions. What am I supposed to make of that, other
than that
you are agreeing with me?
here, I've found it for you-since you're
obviously too ignorant to figure it out for yourself.
Your claim, retard, you back it up.
http://tinyurl.com/ynpopy
Yeah, no scientist has ever speculated about what he
*might* prove,
eventually, and been wrong. In other words, it still
doesn't say what
you - in your profound stupidity - believe it says.
The rest of them are the images. They'll be back when the
site is back
up.
Whatever.
You're welcome.
You're fucking stupid.
I'm smart enough to understand that websites sometimes
require
maintenence, *****-for-brains.
Or you just provided a URL that didn't go anywhere and
hoped I wouldn't
notice. Because you're a liar, and a retard.
Here, free bonus:
http://tinyurl.com/yrwbee
http://healthguide.howstuffworks.com/mri-dictionary.htm
Yes, MRIs are machines that exist. Which book do you
imagine, in your
profound stupidity, provides an objective definition, much
less proof,
of emotions?
What a retard.
BTW, if you weren't a retard, you'd put a .sig delimiter
in. But you're
too fucking stupid to even figure out what one is, much
less how to use
one.
It seems a common form of mental retardation, all of a
sudden.
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
"..the prayer cloth of one aeon is the doormat of the
next."
-Mark Twain
Religious societies are *less* moral than secular ones:
http://moses.creighton.edu/JRS/2005/2005-11.html
--
Terry Austin
"Dude, we're all your *****, but only Ken's wearing the
juice."
- tussock
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06 Jan 2008 12:51:40 PM |
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On Jan 5, 10:14=A0pm, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote in
news:548cea08-38db-4aca-bb38-33808ea47f16
@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
On Jan 5, 5:27=A0pm, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...
@gmail.com>
wrote:
panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote
innews:e1129db5-2387-4bad-986c-14f239ed2453@v
67g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
snip
Fleeting human emotions. They *do* exist in your
brain.
Prove it. Bear in mind, unsupported claims won't
count.
http://www.jyi.org/news/nb.php?id=3D274
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_love_top.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_pain_side.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_fear_top.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_joy_top.jpg
A completely blank page and a bunch of pictures with no
captions at
all. Thanks for admitting I'm right.
Lazy *****, you are...
Beacuse I can't read your mind?
snip
I figured out what the blank pages are. They're scans of your empty
head. Were you born this stupid, or did your father skull-***** you as
an infant?
-PF
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06 Jan 2008 01:02:35 PM |
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wrote in news:9a8f3dc6-bb7c-4c68-ae14-
4e06bd84fbcb@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com:
On Jan 5, 10:14 pm, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote in
news:548cea08-38db-4aca-bb38-33808ea47f16
@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
On Jan 5, 5:27 pm, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...
@gmail.com>
wrote:
panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote
innews:e1129db5-2387-4bad-986c-14f239ed2453@v
67g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
snip
Fleeting human emotions. They *do* exist in your
brain.
Prove it. Bear in mind, unsupported claims won't
count.
http://www.jyi.org/news/nb.php?id=274
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_love_top.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_pain_side.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_fear_top.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_joy_top.jpg
A completely blank page and a bunch of pictures with no
captions at
all. Thanks for admitting I'm right.
Lazy *****, you are...
Beacuse I can't read your mind?
snip
I figured out what the blank pages are. They're scans of your empty
head. Were you born this stupid, or did your father skull-***** you as
an infant?
I know you are, but what am I?
--
Terry Austin
"Dude, we're all your *****, but only Ken's wearing the juice."
- tussock
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06 Jan 2008 11:05:23 AM |
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On Jan 6, 3:14 am, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote in
news:548cea08-38db-4aca-bb38-33808ea47f16
@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
On Jan 5, 5:27 pm, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...
@gmail.com>
wrote:
panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote
innews:e1129db5-2387-4bad-986c-14f239ed2453@v
67g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
snip
Fleeting human emotions. They *do* exist in your
brain.
Prove it. Bear in mind, unsupported claims won't
count.
http://www.jyi.org/news/nb.php?id=274
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_love_top.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_pain_side.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_fear_top.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_joy_top.jpg
A completely blank page and a bunch of pictures with no
captions at
all. Thanks for admitting I'm right.
Lazy *****, you are...
Beacuse I can't read your mind? I got a blank page, and
four pictures
with no captions.
Except for the fact that the pictures mere named as things like
"mri_love_top.jpg". It is fairly obvious that that meant that it was a
picture of joy being mapped on an MRI scanner from the top. As even
David Blunkett would have seen that, I can only conclude you are
fucking stupid.
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil
and General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist, BAAWA Lowly Evilmeister and tamer of the Demon Duck
of Doom
Convicted by Earthquack
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
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06 Jan 2008 12:46:36 PM |
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Lucifer <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in news:0193b8d2-b2bc-497f-be3b-
a8f6d71b1c14@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
On Jan 6, 3:14 am, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote in
news:548cea08-38db-4aca-bb38-33808ea47f16
@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
On Jan 5, 5:27 pm, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...
@gmail.com>
wrote:
panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote
innews:e1129db5-2387-4bad-986c-14f239ed2453@v
67g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
snip
Fleeting human emotions. They *do* exist in your
brain.
Prove it. Bear in mind, unsupported claims won't
count.
http://www.jyi.org/news/nb.php?id=274
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_love_top.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_pain_side.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_fear_top.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_joy_top.jpg
A completely blank page and a bunch of pictures with no
captions at
all. Thanks for admitting I'm right.
Lazy *****, you are...
Beacuse I can't read your mind? I got a blank page, and
four pictures
with no captions.
Except for the fact that the pictures mere named as things like
"mri_love_top.jpg".
So if I gvae you a URL of a picture names "you_are_a_retard.jpg", you
would *have* to agree that it proves you are a retard.
Or you're a liar, and a fucking idiot.
--
Terry Austin
"Dude, we're all your *****, but only Ken's wearing the juice."
- tussock
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06 Jan 2008 01:39:18 PM |
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On Jan 6, 6:46 pm, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Lucifer <wyrdol...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:0193b8d2-b2bc-497f-be3b-
a8f6d71b1...@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
On Jan 6, 3:14 am, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote in
news:548cea08-38db-4aca-bb38-33808ea47f16
@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
On Jan 5, 5:27 pm, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...
@gmail.com>
wrote:
panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote
innews:e1129db5-2387-4bad-986c-14f239ed2453@v
67g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
snip
Fleeting human emotions. They *do* exist in your
brain.
Prove it. Bear in mind, unsupported claims won't
count.
http://www.jyi.org/news/nb.php?id=274
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_love_top.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_pain_side.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_fear_top.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_joy_top.jpg
A completely blank page and a bunch of pictures with no
captions at
all. Thanks for admitting I'm right.
Lazy *****, you are...
Beacuse I can't read your mind? I got a blank page, and
four pictures
with no captions.
Except for the fact that the pictures mere named as things like
"mri_love_top.jpg".
So if I gvae you a URL of a picture names "you_are_a_retard.jpg", you
would *have* to agree that it proves you are a retard.
Oh dear...oh dear oh dear. Look, your foot is already riddled with
bullets, perhaps you shouldn't be using full automatic to blast your
toes. You claimed that emotions such as love were unprovable. Sir
Panama then provided evidence that they weren't, by showing you images
from an MRI scanner showing responses in the brain associated with
love, but you were too thick to see it. Once beaten, you decided to go
on the disastrous track of trying to attack to cover up your
stupidity, but once again, you simply failed.
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil
and General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist, BAAWA Lowly Evilmeister and tamer of the Demon Duck
of Doom
Convicted by Earthquack
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
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06 Jan 2008 01:50:27 PM |
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Lucifer <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote in news:a5f0be5c-a9c9-4eb8-9c10-
25c6f05535ef@d4g2000prg.googlegroups.com:
On Jan 6, 6:46 pm, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Lucifer <wyrdol...@hotmail.com> wrote in news:0193b8d2-b2bc-497f-be3b-
a8f6d71b1...@p69g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
On Jan 6, 3:14 am, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...@gmail.com>
wrote:
panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote in
news:548cea08-38db-4aca-bb38-33808ea47f16
@l1g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:
On Jan 5, 5:27 pm, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceper...
@gmail.com>
wrote:
panamfl...@hotmail.com wrote
innews:e1129db5-2387-4bad-986c-14f239ed2453@v
67g2000hse.googlegroups.com:
snip
Fleeting human emotions. They *do* exist in your
brain.
Prove it. Bear in mind, unsupported claims won't
count.
http://www.jyi.org/news/nb.php?id=274
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_love_top.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_pain_side.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_fear_top.jpg
http://www.insidestory.iop.org/images/mri_joy_top.jpg
A completely blank page and a bunch of pictures with no
captions at
all. Thanks for admitting I'm right.
Lazy *****, you are...
Beacuse I can't read your mind? I got a blank page, and
four pictures
with no captions.
Except for the fact that the pictures mere named as things like
"mri_love_top.jpg".
So if I gvae you a URL of a picture names "you_are_a_retard.jpg", you
would *have* to agree that it proves you are a retard.
Oh dear...oh dear oh dear. Look, your foot is already riddled with
bullets, perhaps you shouldn't be using full automatic to blast your
toes.
Victory by proclamation is an admission that you know I'm right.
You claimed that emotions such as love were unprovable. Sir
Panama then provided evidence that they weren't,
Liar. Or profoundly retarded. He provided a blank web page and some
pictures with no captions.
by showing you images
from an MRI scanner showing responses in the brain associated with
love, but you were too thick to see it.
Images with file names that kinds sorta imply that whoever named the
files, which may or may not be someone associated with actually creating
them, might have though they kinda sorta had something to do with the
subject. And a blank web page.
Which is to say, not evidence, except to a retard.
Once beaten, you decided to go
on the disastrous track of trying to attack to cover up your
stupidity, but once again, you simply failed.
I know you are, but what am I?
At least I'm not so fucking stupid that I can't figure out a .sig
delimiter. Retard.
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil
and General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist, BAAWA Lowly Evilmeister and tamer of the Demon Duck
of Doom
Convicted by Earthquack
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
--
Terry Austin
"Dude, we're all your *****, but only Ken's wearing the juice."
- tussock
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05 Jan 2008 12:31:45 AM |
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On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 05:52:59 -0000, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote:
Apostate <godless.*****@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote in
news:9m5un3dfbnihe1sqrofqjtuptuuimcuco5@4ax.com:
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:06:03 +1000, "Ultra" <ultra@ultra.ultra> wrote:
"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:39dbd986-0a6c-43cb-93d8-85afa7326107@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com..
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On Jan 4, 10:50 pm, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
Subject line says it all.
People claim God does not exist because he/she/it would not allow
evil in the world. The fact of the matter is that if there is any
evil, it is outweighed by the fact the we have free will.
That there is evil in the world does not mean there is no God.
According to your Bible God is the source of all good and all evil.
Of course, but the net goodness is still positive due to the existence
of free will.
Please define this property so we can tell it apart from, say,
chocolatiness, or joy.
Then, if you'd be so kind, please show us that it exists as you claim
(and makes any difference from its not existing.) Bear in mind,
unsupported claims won't count.
So, in your world, there is no such thing as love, beauty, honor, or any of
the things that most people value the most. Because you cannot objectively
define them, nor can you show that they exist.
What a sad, empty life you must live.
Strawman, and also non sequitur. Our friend Ultra has been relying, as though it can't fail,
on his assertion about free will. He needs to be able to support the assertion, or his
argument -- pretty much all of it -- is made toast. No reason I shouldn't task him.
You've wandered far outside the parameters of the conversation, drawing any inferences
about me or my beliefs, values or life. You may be entirely wrong, if that concept doesn't
blow your mind (and even if it does.)
--
Apostate a.a. #1931
..sig currently undergoing maintenance
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05 Jan 2008 11:55:00 AM |
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Apostate <godless.*****@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote in
news:qn8un3l4qkmscc2nmqo48gvnlar56ukbb8@4ax.com:
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 05:52:59 -0000, Terry Austin
<terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote:
Apostate <godless.*****@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote in
news:9m5un3dfbnihe1sqrofqjtuptuuimcuco5@4ax.com:
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:06:03 +1000, "Ultra" <ultra@ultra.ultra>
wrote:
"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:39dbd986-0a6c-43cb-93d8-85afa7326107@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com
.. .
On Jan 4, 10:50 pm, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
Subject line says it all.
People claim God does not exist because he/she/it would not allow
evil in the world. The fact of the matter is that if there is
any evil, it is outweighed by the fact the we have free will.
That there is evil in the world does not mean there is no God.
According to your Bible God is the source of all good and all
evil.
Of course, but the net goodness is still positive due to the
existence of free will.
Please define this property so we can tell it apart from, say,
chocolatiness, or joy.
Then, if you'd be so kind, please show us that it exists as you
claim (and makes any difference from its not existing.) Bear in
mind, unsupported claims won't count.
So, in your world, there is no such thing as love, beauty, honor, or
any of the things that most people value the most. Because you cannot
objectively define them, nor can you show that they exist.
What a sad, empty life you must live.
Strawman, and also non sequitur.
No. But feel free to continue to ignore stuff you don't know how to
answer.
--
Terry Austin
Beware the other head of science. It bites.
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| Title: Re: Evil - outweighed by free will |
05 Jan 2008 05:34:15 PM |
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On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:55:00 -0000, Terry Austin <terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote:
Apostate <godless.*****@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote in
news:qn8un3l4qkmscc2nmqo48gvnlar56ukbb8@4ax.com:
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 05:52:59 -0000, Terry Austin
<terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote:
Apostate <godless.*****@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote in
news:9m5un3dfbnihe1sqrofqjtuptuuimcuco5@4ax.com:
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 14:06:03 +1000, "Ultra" <ultra@ultra.ultra>
wrote:
"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:39dbd986-0a6c-43cb-93d8-85afa7326107@e6g2000prf.googlegroups.com
.. .
On Jan 4, 10:50 pm, "Ultra" <ul...@ultra.ultra> wrote:
Subject line says it all.
People claim God does not exist because he/she/it would not allow
evil in the world. The fact of the matter is that if there is
any evil, it is outweighed by the fact the we have free will.
That there is evil in the world does not mean there is no God.
According to your Bible God is the source of all good and all
evil.
Of course, but the net goodness is still positive due to the
existence of free will.
Please define this property so we can tell it apart from, say,
chocolatiness, or joy.
Then, if you'd be so kind, please show us that it exists as you
claim (and makes any difference from its not existing.) Bear in
mind, unsupported claims won't count.
So, in your world, there is no such thing as love, beauty, honor, or
any of the things that most people value the most. Because you cannot
objectively define them, nor can you show that they exist.
What a sad, empty life you must live.
Strawman, and also non sequitur.
No. But feel free to continue to ignore stuff you don't know how to
answer.
Yawn.
I remembered you from previous encounters, years ago.
I wondered, in the first one or two of your postings I spotted here yesterday or the day
before, how many posts it would take for you to settle into your familiar form. Three
seems to be about right. Have fun trolling. You won't waste my time doing it.
--
Apostate a.a. #1931
..sig currently undergoing maintenance
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05 Jan 2008 09:15:30 PM |
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Apostate <godless.*****@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote in
news:5r40o35oc7mva5tu4drcshbq5uorv0kqre@4ax.com:
On Sat, 05 Jan 2008 17:55:00 -0000, Terry Austin
<terry.notaniceperson@gmail.com> wrote:
Apostate <godless.*****@yeehaw.org.invalid> wrote in
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