Religions > Atheism > Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Aug 15 (God Will Kill Everyone)
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Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Aug 15 (God Will Kill Everyone) |
Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Aug 15, 2004 from www.EvilBible.com:
God Will Kill Everyone (Zephaniah 1:2-6 NLT)
"I will sweep away everything in all your land," says the LORD. "I will
sweep away both people and animals alike. Even the birds of the air and the
fish in the sea will die. I will reduce the wicked to heaps of rubble,
along with the rest of humanity," says the LORD. "I will crush Judah and
Jerusalem with my fist and destroy every last trace of their Baal worship.
I will put an end to all the idolatrous priests, so that even the memory of
them will disappear. For they go up to their roofs and bow to the sun,
moon, and stars. They claim to follow the LORD, but then they worship
Molech, too. So now I will destroy them! And I will destroy those who used
to worship me but now no longer do. They no longer ask for the LORD's
guidance or seek my blessings." (Zephaniah 1:2-6 NLT)
What kind of person would get their moral guidance from an ancient book of
myths and magic that says it is OK to murder, rape, pillage, and plunder?
Read more about the evils of the Bible at www.EvilBible.com
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15 Aug 2004 11:20:21 AM |
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Editor of EvilBible.com wrote:
Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Aug 15, 2004 from www.EvilBible.com:
God Will Kill Everyone (Zephaniah 1:2-6 NLT)
"I will sweep away everything in all your land," says the LORD. "I
will
sweep away both people and animals alike. Even the birds of the air and
the
fish in the sea will die. I will reduce the wicked to heaps of rubble,
along with the rest of humanity," says the LORD. "I will crush Judah and
Jerusalem with my fist and destroy every last trace of their Baal worship.
I will put an end to all the idolatrous priests, so that even the memory
of
them will disappear. For they go up to their roofs and bow to the sun,
moon, and stars. They claim to follow the LORD, but then they worship
Molech, too. So now I will destroy them! And I will destroy those who
used
to worship me but now no longer do. They no longer ask for the LORD's
guidance or seek my blessings." (Zephaniah 1:2-6 NLT)
What kind of person would get their moral guidance from an ancient book of
myths and magic that says it is OK to murder, rape, pillage, and plunder?
Read more about the evils of the Bible at www.EvilBible.com
What does myths and magic have to do with the Bible? This is God's Justice!
These people claimed to follow God. The same "jealous God" that forbids
"worshipping any other God".
They claimed to be followers of the Almighty, but were also worshipping
false Gods. This is clearly against God's law!
Why shouldn't God destroy them?
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Donovan Hill
Canadian, Linux User, All around nice guy!
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15 Aug 2004 10:34:04 PM |
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"alt" <spamtrap@lazyeyez.net> wrote in message
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Editor of EvilBible.com wrote:
Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Aug 15, 2004 from www.EvilBible.com:
God Will Kill Everyone (Zephaniah 1:2-6 NLT)
"I will sweep away everything in all your land," says the LORD. "I
will
sweep away both people and animals alike. Even the birds of the air and
the
fish in the sea will die. I will reduce the wicked to heaps of rubble,
along with the rest of humanity," says the LORD. "I will crush Judah
and
Jerusalem with my fist and destroy every last trace of their Baal
worship.
I will put an end to all the idolatrous priests, so that even the memory
of
them will disappear. For they go up to their roofs and bow to the sun,
moon, and stars. They claim to follow the LORD, but then they worship
Molech, too. So now I will destroy them! And I will destroy those who
used
to worship me but now no longer do. They no longer ask for the LORD's
guidance or seek my blessings." (Zephaniah 1:2-6 NLT)
What kind of person would get their moral guidance from an ancient book
of
myths and magic that says it is OK to murder, rape, pillage, and
plunder?
Read more about the evils of the Bible at www.EvilBible.com
What does myths and magic have to do with the Bible?
Everything.
This is God's Justice!
A lot of Moslems think that 9-11 is God's justice. That doesn't make it
true.
These people claimed to follow God. The same "jealous God" that forbids
"worshipping any other God".
Just like the Moslem terrorists.
They claimed to be followers of the Almighty, but were also worshipping
false Gods. This is clearly against God's law!
God's law also says to kill people who work on the Sabbath. Do you think we
should kill them?
Why shouldn't God destroy them?
God doesn't exist. If he did exist then he shouldn't kill people because it
is immoral.
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16 Aug 2004 11:51:09 AM |
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Editor of EvilBible.com wrote:
"alt" <spamtrap@lazyeyez.net> wrote in message
news:93MTc.16135$S55.9098@clgrps12...
Editor of EvilBible.com wrote:
Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Aug 15, 2004 from www.EvilBible.com:
God Will Kill Everyone (Zephaniah 1:2-6 NLT)
"I will sweep away everything in all your land," says the LORD. "I
will
sweep away both people and animals alike. Even the birds of the air and
the
fish in the sea will die. I will reduce the wicked to heaps of rubble,
along with the rest of humanity," says the LORD. "I will crush Judah
and
Jerusalem with my fist and destroy every last trace of their Baal
worship.
I will put an end to all the idolatrous priests, so that even the
memory of
them will disappear. For they go up to their roofs and bow to the sun,
moon, and stars. They claim to follow the LORD, but then they worship
Molech, too. So now I will destroy them! And I will destroy those who
used
to worship me but now no longer do. They no longer ask for the LORD's
guidance or seek my blessings." (Zephaniah 1:2-6 NLT)
What kind of person would get their moral guidance from an ancient book
of
myths and magic that says it is OK to murder, rape, pillage, and
plunder?
Read more about the evils of the Bible at www.EvilBible.com
What does myths and magic have to do with the Bible?
Everything.
This is God's Justice!
A lot of Moslems think that 9-11 is God's justice. That doesn't make it
true.
Tell me, in Zephaniah, who carried out this justice. Was it God or Man? I
see no mention of man carrying out God's Justice.
These people claimed to follow God. The same "jealous God" that forbids
"worshipping any other God".
Just like the Moslem terrorists.
So God is a Moslem terrorist?
They claimed to be followers of the Almighty, but were also worshipping
false Gods. This is clearly against God's law!
God's law also says to kill people who work on the Sabbath. Do you think
we should kill them?
Matthew 12:1-13
Why shouldn't God destroy them?
God doesn't exist. If he did exist then he shouldn't kill people because
it is immoral.
By who's standard?
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Donovan Hill
Canadian, Linux User, All around nice guy!
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| User: "Claytonman...Claytonman....Does What Ever A Beer Can" |
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15 Aug 2004 08:33:37 PM |
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"alt" <spamtrap@lazyeyez.net> wrote in message
news:93MTc.16135$S55.9098@clgrps12...
Editor of EvilBible.com wrote:
Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Aug 15, 2004 from www.EvilBible.com:
God Will Kill Everyone (Zephaniah 1:2-6 NLT)
<snip>
What kind of person would get their moral guidance from an ancient book
of
myths and magic that says it is OK to murder, rape, pillage, and
plunder?
Read more about the evils of the Bible at www.EvilBible.com
What does myths and magic have to do with the Bible? This is God's
Justice!
These people claimed to follow God. The same "jealous God" that forbids
"worshipping any other God".
They claimed to be followers of the Almighty, but were also worshipping
false Gods. This is clearly against God's law!
Why shouldn't God destroy them?
A perfect example of how thoroughly fucked up the religious mind is and why
Christianity must be brought to an end!!!
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16 Aug 2004 11:52:55 AM |
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Claytonman...Claytonman....Does What Ever A Beer Can wrote:
"alt" <spamtrap@lazyeyez.net> wrote in message
news:93MTc.16135$S55.9098@clgrps12...
Editor of EvilBible.com wrote:
Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Aug 15, 2004 from www.EvilBible.com:
God Will Kill Everyone (Zephaniah 1:2-6 NLT)
<snip>
What kind of person would get their moral guidance from an ancient book
of
myths and magic that says it is OK to murder, rape, pillage, and
plunder?
Read more about the evils of the Bible at www.EvilBible.com
What does myths and magic have to do with the Bible? This is God's
Justice!
These people claimed to follow God. The same "jealous God" that forbids
"worshipping any other God".
They claimed to be followers of the Almighty, but were also worshipping
false Gods. This is clearly against God's law!
Why shouldn't God destroy them?
A perfect example of how thoroughly fucked up the religious mind is and
why Christianity must be brought to an end!!!
Yes. We can't have those Christians telling you about God's love and warning
you about your eternal destination. Can't have those nasty Christians who
love and respect God's laws running around polluting your children's minds
with *gasp* morals.
--
Donovan Hill
Canadian, Linux User, All around nice guy!
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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16 Aug 2004 01:36:00 PM |
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One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach alt:
Claytonman...Claytonman....Does What Ever A Beer Can wrote:
"alt" <spamtrap@lazyeyez.net> wrote in message
news:93MTc.16135$S55.9098@clgrps12...
Editor of EvilBible.com wrote:
Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Aug 15, 2004 from
www.EvilBible.com:
God Will Kill Everyone (Zephaniah 1:2-6 NLT)
<snip>
What kind of person would get their moral guidance from an ancient
book
of
myths and magic that says it is OK to murder, rape, pillage, and
plunder?
Read more about the evils of the Bible at www.EvilBible.com
What does myths and magic have to do with the Bible? This is God's
Justice!
These people claimed to follow God. The same "jealous God" that
forbids "worshipping any other God".
They claimed to be followers of the Almighty, but were also
worshipping false Gods. This is clearly against God's law!
Why shouldn't God destroy them?
A perfect example of how thoroughly fucked up the religious mind is
and why Christianity must be brought to an end!!!
Yes. We can't have those Christians telling you about God's love and
warning you about your eternal destination. Can't have those nasty
Christians who love and respect God's laws running around polluting your
children's minds with *gasp* morals.
As if your god actually existed....
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to be
as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]
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15 Aug 2004 12:43:23 PM |
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"alt" <spamtrap@lazyeyez.net> wrote in message news:93MTc.16135$S55.9098@clgrps12...
They claimed to be followers of the Almighty, but were also worshipping
false Gods. This is clearly against God's law!
Why shouldn't God destroy them?
Because it's not nice to destroy people?
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| User: "William" |
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15 Aug 2004 04:49:17 PM |
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On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 16:20:21 GMT, alt <spamtrap@lazyeyez.net> wrote:
Editor of EvilBible.com wrote:
God Will Kill Everyone (Zephaniah 1:2-6 NLT)
"I will sweep away everything in all your land," says the LORD. "I
will
sweep away both people and animals alike. Even the birds of the air and
the
fish in the sea will die. I will reduce the wicked to heaps of rubble,
along with the rest of humanity," says the LORD. "I will crush Judah and
Jerusalem with my fist and destroy every last trace of their Baal worship.
I will put an end to all the idolatrous priests, so that even the memory
of
them will disappear. For they go up to their roofs and bow to the sun,
moon, and stars. They claim to follow the LORD, but then they worship
Molech, too. So now I will destroy them! And I will destroy those who
used
to worship me but now no longer do. They no longer ask for the LORD's
guidance or seek my blessings." (Zephaniah 1:2-6 NLT)
What kind of person would get their moral guidance from an ancient book of
myths and magic that says it is OK to murder, rape, pillage, and plunder?
Read more about the evils of the Bible at www.EvilBible.com
What does myths and magic have to do with the Bible? This is God's Justice!
These people claimed to follow God. The same "jealous God" that forbids
"worshipping any other God".
They claimed to be followers of the Almighty, but were also worshipping
false Gods. This is clearly against God's law!
Why shouldn't God destroy them?
There are around 2000 different and often mutually contradictory
christian denominations, sects and cults around at the moment. Since
they all can't be worshipping the same God there must be hundreds who
are claimed to be followers of the Almighty but are worshipping false
Gods. Why doesn't God destroy them as he used to do? Has he gone soft
or has he changed his mind or has he lost his touch or what?
William
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15 Aug 2004 07:30:51 PM |
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William wrote:
On Sun, 15 Aug 2004 16:20:21 GMT, alt <spamtrap@lazyeyez.net> wrote:
Editor of EvilBible.com wrote:
God Will Kill Everyone (Zephaniah 1:2-6 NLT)
"I will sweep away everything in all your land," says the LORD. "I
will
sweep away both people and animals alike. Even the birds of the air and
the
fish in the sea will die. I will reduce the wicked to heaps of rubble,
along with the rest of humanity," says the LORD. "I will crush Judah
and Jerusalem with my fist and destroy every last trace of their Baal
worship. I will put an end to all the idolatrous priests, so that even
the memory of
them will disappear. For they go up to their roofs and bow to the sun,
moon, and stars. They claim to follow the LORD, but then they worship
Molech, too. So now I will destroy them! And I will destroy those who
used
to worship me but now no longer do. They no longer ask for the LORD's
guidance or seek my blessings." (Zephaniah 1:2-6 NLT)
What kind of person would get their moral guidance from an ancient book
of myths and magic that says it is OK to murder, rape, pillage, and
plunder?
Read more about the evils of the Bible at www.EvilBible.com
What does myths and magic have to do with the Bible? This is God's
Justice! These people claimed to follow God. The same "jealous God" that
forbids "worshipping any other God".
They claimed to be followers of the Almighty, but were also worshipping
false Gods. This is clearly against God's law!
Why shouldn't God destroy them?
There are around 2000 different and often mutually contradictory
christian denominations, sects and cults around at the moment. Since
they all can't be worshipping the same God there must be hundreds who
are claimed to be followers of the Almighty but are worshipping false
Gods. Why doesn't God destroy them as he used to do? Has he gone soft
or has he changed his mind or has he lost his touch or what?
William
I don't believe he has lost anything. Jesus' death and resurrection brought
about a new covenant between Man and God. God has been extending his mercy
and grace over the Earth since then. He has allowed Man to wallow in his
sin and evil, almost completely unbounded.
The things that happened in the OT, specifically regarding the above
passage, were before that new covenant.
Through Jesus Christ, God gives up much more mercy than we deserve. And
through Jesus Christ, our sins are forgiven and we are brought back into
full communion with God (which is how God intended his relationship with us
to be).
--
Donovan Hill
Canadian, Linux User, All around nice guy!
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15 Aug 2004 09:30:42 PM |
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One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach alt:
There are around 2000 different and often mutually contradictory
christian denominations, sects and cults around at the moment. Since
they all can't be worshipping the same God there must be hundreds who
are claimed to be followers of the Almighty but are worshipping false
Gods. Why doesn't God destroy them as he used to do? Has he gone soft
or has he changed his mind or has he lost his touch or what?
William
I don't believe he has lost anything. Jesus' death and resurrection
brought about a new covenant between Man and God. God has been
extending his mercy and grace over the Earth since then. He has
allowed Man to wallow in his sin and evil, almost completely
unbounded.
Yup, as if he didn't exist at all.
The things that happened in the OT, specifically regarding the above
passage, were before that new covenant.
Then I guess the Christians that have been opposing the removal of the
Ten Commandments monuments from government property should be ignored,
right?
Through Jesus Christ, God gives up much more mercy than we deserve.
And through Jesus Christ, our sins are forgiven and we are brought
back into full communion with God (which is how God intended his
relationship with us to be).
It's no wonder some of you Christians become serial killers.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________
The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to
be as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]
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16 Aug 2004 11:41:44 AM |
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Vic Sagerquist wrote:
One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach alt:
There are around 2000 different and often mutually contradictory
christian denominations, sects and cults around at the moment. Since
they all can't be worshipping the same God there must be hundreds who
are claimed to be followers of the Almighty but are worshipping false
Gods. Why doesn't God destroy them as he used to do? Has he gone soft
or has he changed his mind or has he lost his touch or what?
William
I don't believe he has lost anything. Jesus' death and resurrection
brought about a new covenant between Man and God. God has been
extending his mercy and grace over the Earth since then. He has
allowed Man to wallow in his sin and evil, almost completely
unbounded.
Yup, as if he didn't exist at all.
Just because you never met Ghandi, doesn't mean he didn't exist. Just
because you've never met Mohammed doesn't mean he didn't exist. In the same
way, just because God doesn't intervene in the ways of this world doesn't
mean he exists.
The things that happened in the OT, specifically regarding the above
passage, were before that new covenant.
Then I guess the Christians that have been opposing the removal of the
Ten Commandments monuments from government property should be ignored,
right?
Why? The 10 commandments are embodied by Jesus in Mark 12:30-31
(paraphrased) "Love the Lord your God with all your heard, all your soul,
all your mind and all your strength. Love your neighbour as yourself".
That statement embodies the 10 commandments. The 10 commandments are here
for those that do not have the Love of Christ. Those of us who have the
Love of Christ don't need those 10 commandments, because the Love of Christ
supercedes those commandments and eclipses them.
BTW, the last stats I heard were that only 1 in 5 Americans wanted that
monument removed.
Through Jesus Christ, God gives up much more mercy than we deserve.
And through Jesus Christ, our sins are forgiven and we are brought
back into full communion with God (which is how God intended his
relationship with us to be).
It's no wonder some of you Christians become serial killers.
That's quite uncalled for. Your statement has no relevance to mine. That's
like saying, "it's no wonder some of you Americans become serial killers."
--
Donovan Hill
Canadian, Linux User, All around nice guy!
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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16 Aug 2004 01:32:46 PM |
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One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach alt:
Vic Sagerquist wrote:
One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach alt:
There are around 2000 different and often mutually contradictory
christian denominations, sects and cults around at the moment. Since
they all can't be worshipping the same God there must be hundreds
who are claimed to be followers of the Almighty but are worshipping
false Gods. Why doesn't God destroy them as he used to do? Has he
gone soft or has he changed his mind or has he lost his touch or
what?
William
I don't believe he has lost anything. Jesus' death and resurrection
brought about a new covenant between Man and God. God has been
extending his mercy and grace over the Earth since then. He has
allowed Man to wallow in his sin and evil, almost completely
unbounded.
Yup, as if he didn't exist at all.
Just because you never met Ghandi, doesn't mean he didn't exist. Just
because you've never met Mohammed doesn't mean he didn't exist. In the
same way, just because God doesn't intervene in the ways of this world
doesn't mean he exists.
I can prove Ghandi existed through modern writings of contemporary
historians. Can you produce writings from God's contemporary historians?
Warning: The Bible does not prove the existence of Biblegod.
The things that happened in the OT, specifically regarding the above
passage, were before that new covenant.
Then I guess the Christians that have been opposing the removal of the
Ten Commandments monuments from government property should be ignored,
right?
Why? The 10 commandments are embodied by Jesus in Mark 12:30-31
(paraphrased) "Love the Lord your God with all your heard, all your
soul, all your mind and all your strength. Love your neighbour as
yourself".
That statement embodies the 10 commandments. The 10 commandments are
here for those that do not have the Love of Christ. Those of us who have
the Love of Christ don't need those 10 commandments, because the Love of
Christ supercedes those commandments and eclipses them.
Are the Ten Commandments from Exodus to be replaced by the writings in
Mark? If so, why are Christians acting so "horror show" about the removal
of the monuments?
BTW, the last stats I heard were that only 1 in 5 Americans wanted that
monument removed.
Which means 4 out of 5 would like them to stay. In light of Mark 12:30-31,
why?
Through Jesus Christ, God gives up much more mercy than we deserve.
And through Jesus Christ, our sins are forgiven and we are brought
back into full communion with God (which is how God intended his
relationship with us to be).
It's no wonder some of you Christians become serial killers.
That's quite uncalled for. Your statement has no relevance to mine.
That's like saying, "it's no wonder some of you Americans become serial
killers."
Your statement above ("Through JC....") belittles mankind. The Christian
doctrine itself injects a very poor sense of self-esteem into the believer.
It makes the common church goer subconsciously believe he is unworthy of
understanding the workings of his surroundings, capable only of servitude
to some higher being, or worship thereof.
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________
The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to be
as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]
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16 Aug 2004 04:24:59 PM |
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On 16-Aug-2004, (Vic Sagerquist) wrote:
I can prove Ghandi existed through modern writings of contemporary
historians. Can you produce writings from God's contemporary historians?
Warning: The Bible does not prove the existence of Biblegod.
Can you produce writings from contemporary historians that prove the
existence of Alexander the Great? Julius Caesar? Augustus? Hannibal of
Carthage?... No? Does that they mean they didn't exist? By your logic, it
must.
Are the Ten Commandments from Exodus to be replaced by the writings in
Mark? If so, why are Christians acting so "horror show" about the removal
of the monuments?
The REAL question is, why are atheists, et al. so "horror show" about the
presence of the monuments?
Your statement above ("Through JC....") belittles mankind. The Christian
doctrine itself injects a very poor sense of self-esteem into the
believer.
It makes the common church goer subconsciously believe he is unworthy of
understanding the workings of his surroundings, capable only of servitude
to some higher being, or worship thereof.
I would disagree, Christian doctrine says that we fall short of perfection,
certainly, but also that we are imbued with dignity and honor that cannot be
comprised. We are important enough for God to take our sins upon himself.
H.
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His love at once and dread instruct our thought;
As man He suffer'd and as God He taught.
- Edmund Waller
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16 Aug 2004 05:08:23 PM |
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One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach :
On 16-Aug-2004, (Vic Sagerquist) wrote:
I can prove Ghandi existed through modern writings of contemporary
historians. Can you produce writings from God's contemporary
historians?
Warning: The Bible does not prove the existence of Biblegod.
Can you produce writings from contemporary historians that prove the
existence of Alexander the Great? Julius Caesar? Augustus? Hannibal of
Carthage?... No? Does that they mean they didn't exist? By your logic,
it must.
Check the writings of The Plinys (elder and younger), also Josephus, to
name just a few. I have not read their work, but I know they made no
mention of your gods.
Are the Ten Commandments from Exodus to be replaced by the writings in
Mark? If so, why are Christians acting so "horror show" about the
removal
of the monuments?
The REAL question is, why are atheists, et al. so "horror show" about
the presence of the monuments?
Judeo-Christian theology is not the only religion present in the USA,
besides its antithesis, atheism. The presence of the monuments on
government property suggests government endorsement of Judeo-Christian
theology, which contradicts the First Amendment. Would you object to a
statue of Mohammad in your hometown post office?
Your statement above ("Through JC....") belittles mankind. The
Christian doctrine itself injects a very poor sense of self-esteem
into the believer.
It makes the common church goer subconsciously believe he is unworthy
of understanding the workings of his surroundings, capable only of
servitude to some higher being, or worship thereof.
I would disagree, Christian doctrine says that we fall short of
perfection, certainly, but also that we are imbued with dignity and
honor that cannot be comprised. We are important enough for God to take
our sins upon himself.
Your opinion, of course. Other xians have told me otherwise. "Unworthy"
is a common word.
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
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The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to be
as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]
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16 Aug 2004 06:25:26 PM |
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On 16-Aug-2004, (Vic Sagerquist) wrote:
Can you produce writings from contemporary historians that prove the
existence of Alexander the Great? Julius Caesar? Augustus? Hannibal of
Carthage?... No? Does that they mean they didn't exist? By your logic,
it must.
Check the writings of The Plinys (elder and younger), also Josephus, to
name just a few. I have not read their work, but I know they made no
mention of your gods.
Pliny the Younger does mention Christ, and Flavius Josephus did act; but
that particular section is commonly considered a forgery. The mighty Tacitus
mentioned Jesus
The REAL question is, why are atheists, et al. so "horror show" about
the presence of the monuments?
Judeo-Christian theology is not the only religion present in the USA,
besides its antithesis, atheism. The presence of the monuments on
government property suggests government endorsement of Judeo-Christian
theology, which contradicts the First Amendment. Would you object to a
statue of Mohammad in your hometown post office?
Muslims do not make statues, but that's beside the point. If I lived in a
predominatly Muslim country, then yes, I would expect to see Koranic
passages and minarets. Even in my own country, I see nothing wrong with
recognizing the ethnic makeup of the community. People seem to want to
'sterilize' public buildings of anything remotely hinting of religion, and
are using the 1st amendment as an excuse, not as a valid reason.
I would disagree, Christian doctrine says that we fall short of
perfection, certainly, but also that we are imbued with dignity and
honor that cannot be comprised. We are important enough for God to take
our sins upon himself.
Your opinion, of course. Other xians have told me otherwise. "Unworthy"
is a common word.
Yes, that's true, a lot of Christians seem to have missed the point.
H
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"Science sees signs; Poetry the thing signified."
- A.W. Hare
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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16 Aug 2004 09:22:56 PM |
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One day in alt.atheism, Also Sprach :
On 16-Aug-2004, (Vic Sagerquist) wrote:
Can you produce writings from contemporary historians that prove the
existence of Alexander the Great? Julius Caesar? Augustus? Hannibal
of Carthage?... No? Does that they mean they didn't exist? By your
logic, it must.
Check the writings of The Plinys (elder and younger), also Josephus,
to name just a few. I have not read their work, but I know they made
no mention of your gods.
Pliny the Younger does mention Christ, and Flavius Josephus did act;
but that particular section is commonly considered a forgery. The
mighty Tacitus mentioned Jesus
Pliny the Younger mentioned Christ as a god people sang praise to. Since
he was born around 62 CE, he probably began his writings fifty years
after the "Christ event". Hardly a contemporary then was he, nor was
Tacitus, who wrote in the second century CE. Here's a snippet from
Tacitus.
"Christus, the founder of the name, was put to death by Pontius Pilate,
procurator of Judea in the reign of Tiberius: but the pernicious
superstition, repressed for a time broke out again, not only through
Judea, where the mischief originated, but through the city of Rome also,
where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find
their center and become popular."
Pernicious superstition. Interesting.
Pliny the Elder would have been 10-11 years old at the time of the
purported Christ Miracles. Certainly he would have remembered such a
glorious set of events, and perhaps even mentioned them in his writings a
few decades later, if they actually happened.
There is no doubt the worship of a "Christ" began around this time. But
there is no historical evidence that the miracles this "Christ" performed
around the time frame the worshippers assert they did actually happened.
The REAL question is, why are atheists, et al. so "horror show"
about the presence of the monuments?
Judeo-Christian theology is not the only religion present in the USA,
besides its antithesis, atheism. The presence of the monuments on
government property suggests government endorsement of
Judeo-Christian theology, which contradicts the First Amendment.
Would you object to a statue of Mohammad in your hometown post
office?
Muslims do not make statues, but that's beside the point. If I lived
in a predominatly Muslim country, then yes, I would expect to see
Koranic passages and minarets. Even in my own country, I see nothing
wrong with recognizing the ethnic makeup of the community.
Funny how I beg to differ. I consider myself an American. Sometimes
even a Patriot. But I am made to feel ostrasized when I encounter
religious icons on secular grounds... religious icons that support only
one of the many diverse beliefs of the legal citizens of this once great
country.
People seem
to want to 'sterilize' public buildings of anything remotely hinting
of religion, and are using the 1st amendment as an excuse, not as a
valid reason.
You refuse to see the validity because you cannot see your own religion
as merely a belief, akin to the beliefs of your peers. Yours is not the
only belief in this country, as are anyone else's, including my lack of
belief. There are other people in this country, who do not think, act,
or believe as you do. Get used to it.
I would disagree, Christian doctrine says that we fall short of
perfection, certainly, but also that we are imbued with dignity and
honor that cannot be comprised. We are important enough for God to
take our sins upon himself.
Your opinion, of course. Other xians have told me otherwise.
"Unworthy" is a common word.
Yes, that's true, a lot of Christians seem to have missed the point.
Why is your version the correct one? Why are the others wrong? I only
ask because this is the main reason I have chosen to trash religion as
*****.
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
______________
The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that
intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree?
Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to
be as smart as God. We can't have that."
[Frank Zappa]
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15 Aug 2004 09:04:14 PM |
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alt wrote:
What does myths and magic have to do with the Bible?
The bible is a myth.
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David V.
UDP for WebTV
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15 Aug 2004 09:50:18 PM |
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"David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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alt wrote:
What does myths and magic have to do with the Bible?
The bible is a myth.
Nope, the Bible exists, unfortunately. But, most of its
contents are myths, along with a bunch of mostly
outdated laws and some poetry that alternates between
murderous and plain, old-fashioned sexy.
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"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never
stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and
neither do we." George Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004
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