Religions > Atheism > Evil Bible Quote of the Day for May 16 (Don't Pamper Your Slaves)
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16 May 2004 01:12:58 PM |
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Evil Bible Quote of the Day for May 16 (Don't Pamper Your Slaves) |
Evil Bible Quote of the Day for May 16, 2004 from www.EvilBible.com:
Don't Pamper Your Slaves (Proverbs 29:21 NAB)
"If a man pampers his servant from childhood, he will turn out to be
stubborn." (Proverbs 29:21 NAB)
What kind of person would get their moral guidance from an ancient book of
myths and magic that says it is OK to murder, rape, pillage, and plunder?
Read more about the evils of the Bible at www.EvilBible.com
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16 May 2004 01:29:36 PM |
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On 16-May-2004, "Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote:
"If a man pampers his servant from childhood, he will turn out to be
stubborn." (Proverbs 29:21 NAB)
Now THAT'S good advice. Applies to children, too. One of the major problem
with kids nowadays, they're pampered, and grow up with no sense of
responsibility.
H.
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| User: "Yang, AthD \h.c" |
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16 May 2004 02:24:42 PM |
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<hughbetcha@yessiree.ca> wrote in message
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On 16-May-2004, "Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote:
"If a man pampers his servant from childhood, he will turn out to be
stubborn." (Proverbs 29:21 NAB)
Now THAT'S good advice. Applies to children, too. One of the major problem
with kids nowadays, they're pampered, and grow up with no sense of
responsibility.
That must explain why according to Newsweek, children who are physcially
abused are more likely to grow up voting GOP.
Yang
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16 May 2004 04:30:04 PM |
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On 16-May-2004, "Yang, AthD \(h.c\)" <eacmole@//AWOLBUSH//mail.com> wrote:
That must explain why according to Newsweek, children who are physcially
abused are more likely to grow up voting GOP.
Now where did it say anything about abuse?
H.
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| User: "Yang, AthD \h.c" |
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17 May 2004 02:55:48 AM |
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<hughbetcha@yessiree.ca> wrote in message
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On 16-May-2004, "Yang, AthD \(h.c\)" <eacmole@//AWOLBUSH//mail.com> wrote:
That must explain why according to Newsweek, children who are physcially
abused are more likely to grow up voting GOP.
Now where did it say anything about abuse?
I'm sorry, the article says that kids who get the snot beat out of them are
more likely to vote GOP. But of course beating the ***** out of their kids
aren't really abuses, according to the rightwing abusers.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/4972441/
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| User: "" |
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17 May 2004 03:37:38 PM |
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On 17-May-2004, "Yang, AthD \(h.c\)" <eacmole@//AWOLBUSH//mail.com> wrote:
Now where did it say anything about abuse?
I'm sorry, the article says that kids who get the snot beat out of them
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more likely to vote GOP. But of course beating the ***** out of their kids
aren't really abuses, according to the rightwing abusers.
I meant the Bible quote; it didn't say anything about abuse. And, it only
makes sense that victims of abuse would favour a law-and-order party that
stands for traditional values; what's the issue here?
H.
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| User: "Steve Knight" |
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17 May 2004 06:48:21 PM |
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 20:37:38 GMT, wrote:
snip
And, it only
makes sense that victims of abuse would favour a law-and-order party that
stands for traditional values; what's the issue here?
I have a problem with 'traditional values'. It's always means
christian values. And we all know what happens when superstitions
control behavior.
If the US was a christian theocracy, it would be the most
suppressive society on Earth. We'd become muted droids without art,
music, dance or science.
Warlord Steve
BAAWA
www.sonic.net/~wooly
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| User: "lao fei zhu" |
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19 May 2004 05:13:16 AM |
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"Steve Knight" <whooly@sonic.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 20:37:38 GMT, wrote:
snip
And, it only
makes sense that victims of abuse would favour a law-and-order party that
stands for traditional values; what's the issue here?
I have a problem with 'traditional values'. It's always means
christian values. And we all know what happens when superstitions
control behavior.
If the US was a christian theocracy, it would be the most
suppressive society on Earth. We'd become muted droids without art,
music, dance or science.
ever been to oklahoma?
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| User: "Editor of EvilBible.com" |
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17 May 2004 05:37:14 AM |
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<hughbetcha@yessiree.ca> wrote in message
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On 16-May-2004, "Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote:
"If a man pampers his servant from childhood, he will turn out to be
stubborn." (Proverbs 29:21 NAB)
Now THAT'S good advice. Applies to children, too. One of the major problem
with kids nowadays, they're pampered, and grow up with no sense of
responsibility.
This verse is talking about child slaves. Why is it good advice to be harsh
to child slaves?
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17 May 2004 03:40:12 PM |
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On 17-May-2004, "Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote:
This verse is talking about child slaves. Why is it good advice to be
harsh
to child slaves?
Child slaves? Where does it say child slaves? Sometimes I wonder where your
brain is at, EvilEd.
H.
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| User: "Editor of EvilBible.com" |
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18 May 2004 05:13:07 PM |
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<hughbetcha@yessiree.ca> wrote in message
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On 17-May-2004, "Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote:
This verse is talking about child slaves. Why is it good advice to be
harsh
to child slaves?
Child slaves? Where does it say child slaves? Sometimes I wonder where
your
brain is at, EvilEd.
The word that is translated as "servant" here can be translated as either
slave or servant. This is because most slaves were household servants. It
also says "childhood". That's how you get "child slaves".
"If a man pampers his servant from childhood, he will turn out to be
stubborn." (Proverbs 29:21 NAB)
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| User: "TCS" |
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17 May 2004 04:11:36 PM |
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 20:40:12 GMT, <> wrote:
On 17-May-2004, "Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote:
This verse is talking about child slaves. Why is it good advice to be
harsh
to child slaves?
Child slaves? Where does it say child slaves? Sometimes I wonder where your
brain is at, EvilEd.
http://www.evilbible.com/Slavery.htm
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners
who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident
foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat
them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent
inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel,
your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
If you buy a Hebrew slave, he is to serve for only six years. Set him
free in the seventh year, and he will owe you nothing for his freedom. If
he was single when he became your slave and then married afterward, only he
will go free in the seventh year. But if he was married before he became a
slave, then his wife will be freed with him. If his master gave him a wife
while he was a slave, and they had sons or daughters, then the man will be
free in the seventh year, but his wife and children will still belong to his
master. But the slave may plainly declare, 'I love my master, my wife, and
my children. I would rather not go free.' If he does this, his master must
present him before God. Then his master must take him to the door and
publicly pierce his ear with an awl. After that, the slave will belong to
his master forever. (Exodus 21:2-6 NLT)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the
end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought
her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to
sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her.
And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no
longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If
he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her
food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any
of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any
payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that the
slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the slave
survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the slave is his
own property. (Exodus 21:20-21 NAB)
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear. Serve
them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 NLT)
Christians who are slaves should give their masters full respect so that
the name of God and his teaching will not be shamed. If your master is a
Christian, that is no excuse for being disrespectful. You should work all
the harder because you are helping another believer by your efforts. Teach
these truths, Timothy, and encourage everyone to obey them. (1 Timothy
6:1-2 NLT)
The servant will be severely punished, for though he knew his duty, he
refused to do it. "But people who are not aware that they are doing wrong
will be punished only lightly. Much is required from those to whom much is
given, and much more is required from those to whom much more is given."
(Luke 12:47-48 NLT)
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| User: "" |
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17 May 2004 05:27:59 PM |
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The original Evil Bible Quote...
"If a man pampers his servant from childhood, he will turn out to be
stubborn." (Proverbs 29:21 NAB)
Nope, nothing about child slaves. Nothing about being 'harsh', either, it
says 'don't pamper.'
You cut n' pasted a whole bunch of other verses; none of them from Proverbs,
nor any that relate to this particular verse. Uh oh... we're not running out
of Evil Quotes are we?
"Possibly Objectionable Bible Quote Depending on How You Interpret It of The
Day" sounds kinda lame, huh?
H.
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| User: "Ineedmoney" |
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17 May 2004 09:42:03 PM |
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<hughbetcha@yessiree.ca> wrote in message
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On 17-May-2004, (Ineedmoney) wrote:
Considering how "servant" in other passages really infers "slave" and
considering how [Exodus 21:20-21] says you may incapacitate your
"slave" for up to 2 days(!), I think possibily considering *that* you
might be able to see where he is coming from.
You guys have always been literalists when it came to Bible passages. Now
you're 'inferring'
*Im* not 'inferring', the Bible is (and Biblical.literalists) It seems to
make no distiction. For example, is a maid a 'servant' or a 'slave? -- Well
[Exodus 21:20-21] says a maid can be treated like a slave and so therefore
any mention of servant or slave we can logically assume (as this is
apparently God inspired) that any maids or slaves should be considered the
same kind of thing.
Secondly, please tell me exactly how you can interprete [Exodus 21:20-21]
to be anything other than pro-slavery, and pro beating your slave?
Well, I 'infer' from what you said that you're out of Evil Bible Quotes,
and
now have to make things up.
And yet you still fail to address passages like [Exodus 21:20-21] and
pretend they arent there, so you can continually bleat that the Bible doesnt
condone slavery.
<snip>
Ed
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| User: "Ineedmoney" |
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17 May 2004 08:48:55 PM |
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wrote in message news:<D4mdnZC7Ba36oTTdRVn2tA@giganews.com>...
The original Evil Bible Quote...
"If a man pampers his servant from childhood, he will turn out to be
stubborn." (Proverbs 29:21 NAB)
Nope, nothing about child slaves. Nothing about being 'harsh', either, it
says 'don't pamper.'
Considering how "servant" in other passages really infers "slave" and
considering how [Exodus 21:20-21] says you may incapacitate your
"slave" for up to 2 days(!), I think possibily considering *that* you
might be able to see where he is coming from.
You cut n' pasted a whole bunch of other verses; none of them from Proverbs,
nor any that relate to this particular verse. Uh oh... we're not running out
of Evil Quotes are we?
Why do they have to be from the same book, or are you saying the Bible
actually contradicts itself so doing so would actually be unfair?
"Possibly Objectionable Bible Quote Depending on How You Interpret It of The
Day" sounds kinda lame, huh?
I think you are lame.
Ed
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17 May 2004 09:18:47 PM |
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On 17-May-2004, (Ineedmoney) wrote:
Considering how "servant" in other passages really infers "slave" and
considering how [Exodus 21:20-21] says you may incapacitate your
"slave" for up to 2 days(!), I think possibily considering *that* you
might be able to see where he is coming from.
You guys have always been literalists when it came to Bible passages. Now
you're 'inferring'
Well, I 'infer' from what you said that you're out of Evil Bible Quotes, and
now have to make things up. Since EvilEd always seems to have 'child
slaves', beatings, abuse, whips and chains and stuff on his mind, it will
probably be along those lines.
I can't wait.
H.
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| User: "Ineedmoney" |
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17 May 2004 09:41:41 PM |
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<hughbetcha@yessiree.ca> wrote in message
news:8sudnZv2HL_i7zTdRVn2gA@giganews.com...
On 17-May-2004, (Ineedmoney) wrote:
Considering how "servant" in other passages really infers "slave" and
considering how [Exodus 21:20-21] says you may incapacitate your
"slave" for up to 2 days(!), I think possibily considering *that* you
might be able to see where he is coming from.
You guys have always been literalists when it came to Bible passages. Now
you're 'inferring'
*Im* not 'inferring', the Bible is (and Biblical.literalists) It seems to
make no distiction. For example, is a maid a 'servant' or a 'slave? -- Well
[Exodus 21:20-21] says a maid can be treated like a slave and so therefore
any mention of servant or slave we can logically assume (as this is
apparently God inspired) that any maids or slaves should be considered the
same kind of thing.
Secondly, please tell me exactly how you can interprete [Exodus 21:20-21]
to be anything other than pro-slavery, and pro beating your slave?
Well, I 'infer' from what you said that you're out of Evil Bible Quotes,
and
now have to make things up.
And yet you still fail to address passages like [Exodus 21:20-21] and
pretend they arent there, so you can continually bleat that the Bible doesnt
condone slavery.
<snip>
Ed
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17 May 2004 10:16:10 PM |
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On 17-May-2004, "Ineedmoney" <mail@fake.co.uk> wrote:
*Im* not 'inferring', the Bible is (and Biblical.literalists) It seems to
make no distiction. For example, is a maid a 'servant' or a 'slave? --
Well
[Exodus 21:20-21] says a maid can be treated like a slave and so therefore
any mention of servant or slave we can logically assume (as this is
apparently God inspired) that any maids or slaves should be considered the
same kind of thing.
Secondly, please tell me exactly how you can interprete [Exodus 21:20-21]
to be anything other than pro-slavery, and pro beating your slave?
The only 'beating' you're doing is 'around the bush'
H.
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| User: "David V." |
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17 May 2004 11:08:51 PM |
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wrote:
The original Evil Bible Quote...
"If a man pampers his servant from childhood, he will turn out to be
stubborn." (Proverbs 29:21 NAB)
Nope, nothing about child slaves.
Liar.
--
David V.
UDP for WebTV
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| User: "" |
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18 May 2004 04:09:11 PM |
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On 17-May-2004, "David V." <spam@hotmail.com> wrote:
The original Evil Bible Quote...
"If a man pampers his servant from childhood, he will turn out to be
stubborn." (Proverbs 29:21 NAB)
Nope, nothing about child slaves.
Liar.
Fool.
H.
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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16 May 2004 02:02:09 PM |
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<hughbetcha@yessiree.ca> wrote in message
news:b72dnTTOZrCWLjrdRVn2iQ@giganews.com...
On 16-May-2004, "Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote:
"If a man pampers his servant from childhood, he will turn out to be
stubborn." (Proverbs 29:21 NAB)
Now THAT'S good advice. Applies to children, too. One of the major problem
with kids nowadays, they're pampered, and grow up with no sense of
responsibility.
Well, maybe it has to do with the teaching that they'll automatically be
forgiven for everything they do.
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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16 May 2004 04:31:57 PM |
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On 16-May-2004, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
Well, maybe it has to do with the teaching that they'll automatically be
forgiven for everything they do.
Automatically? Hardly true. One must accept the mercy one is offered, must
earn it too.
H.
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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17 May 2004 01:00:29 AM |
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<hughbetcha@yessiree.ca> wrote in message
news:mZ6dnTRufZRUQDrdRVn2vA@giganews.com...
On 16-May-2004, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
Well, maybe it has to do with the teaching that they'll automatically be
forgiven for everything they do.
Automatically? Hardly true. One must accept the mercy one is offered, must
earn it too.
Now really, why would someone need to be protected from perfect justice?
Seems counterproductive, if justice is the aim.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http://www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "Spooked " |
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16 May 2004 08:04:50 PM |
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On Sun, 16 May 2004 21:31:57 GMT, wrote:
On 16-May-2004, "Denis Loubet" <dloubet@io.com> wrote:
Well, maybe it has to do with the teaching that they'll automatically be
forgiven for everything they do.
Automatically? Hardly true. One must accept the mercy one is offered, must
earn it too.
H.
Since when is mercy an earned favor rather than a compassionate gift?
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17 May 2004 03:51:23 PM |
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On 16-May-2004, Spooked <> wrote:
Since when is mercy an earned favor rather than a compassionate gift?
Okay, let's explain this in simple terms.
You are a child, suppose, and you oh, say, take daddy's electric razor and
shave a big stripe off the cat while it's sleeping. Bad kid! Of course
mommy and daddy are mad at you (although dad probably thinks it's kinda
funny, but that's beside the point.) Of course they will forgive you! You
know that even before you apologize and promise never to do it again. Now,
you had better NOT do it again, because if you do, what do you suppose you
make out of mom and dad's original mercy and forgiveness? Exactly, a
mockery. Do you see the point now?
....and don't worry, the cat forgave me too.
H.
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| User: "Spooked " |
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17 May 2004 05:32:18 PM |
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wrote:
...and don't worry, the cat forgave me too.
Just remember, DON'T do it again...
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