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"Editor of EvilBible.com" |
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13 Oct 2003 11:40:27 AM |
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Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Oct. 13 (Destroy People) |
Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Oct. 13, 2003 from www.EvilBible.com:
Destroy People (Psalms 106:34-35 NAB)
"They did not destroy the peoples as the LORD had commanded them, but
mingled with the nations and imitated their ways."
What kind of person would get their moral guidance from an ancient book of
myths and magic that says it is OK to murder, rape, pillage, and plunder?
Read more about the evils of the Bible at www.EvilBible.com.
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18 Oct 2003 09:25:48 AM |
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"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message news:<bmeki0$79a$1@bob.news.rcn.net>...
Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Oct. 13, 2003 from www.EvilBible.com:
Destroy People (Psalms 106:34-35 NAB)
"They did not destroy the peoples as the LORD had commanded them, but
mingled with the nations and imitated their ways."
Matthew Henry's Commentary:
Here, I. The narrative concludes with an account of Israel's conduct
in Canaan, which was of a piece with that in the wilderness, and God's
dealings with them, wherein, as all along, both justice and mercy
appeared.
1. They were very provoking to God. The miracles and mercies
which settled them in Canaan made no more deep and durable impressions
upon them than those which fetched them out of Egypt; for by the time
they were just settled in Canaan they corrupted themselves, and
forsook God. Observe,
(1.) The steps of their apostasy. [1.] They spared the nations
which God had doomed to destruction (v. 34); when they had got the
good land God had promised them they had no zeal against the wicked
inhabitants whom the Lord commanded them to extirpate, pretending
pity; but so merciful is God that no man needs to be in any case more
compassionate than he. [2.] When they spared them they promised
themselves that, notwithstanding this, they would not join in any
dangerous affinity with them. But the way of sin is down-hill;
omissions make way for commissions; when they neglect to destroy the
heathen the next news we hear is, They were mingled among the heathen,
made leagues with them and contracted an intimacy with them, so that
they learned their works, v. 35. That which is rotten will sooner
corrupt that which is sound than be cured or made sound by it. [3.]
When they mingled with them, and learned some of their works that
seemed innocent diversions and entertainments, yet they thought they
would never join with them in their worship; but by degrees they
learned that too (v. 36): They served their idols in the same manner,
and with the same rites, that they served them; and they became a
snare to them. That sin drew on many more, and brought the judgments
of God upon them, which they themselves could not but be sensible of
and yet knew not how to recover themselves. [4.] When they joined with
them in some of their idolatrous services, which they thought had
least harm in them, they little thought that ever they should be
guilty of that barbarous and inhuman piece of idolatry the sacrificing
of their living children to their dead gods; but they came to that at
last (v. 37, 38), in which Satan triumphed over his worshippers, and
regaled himself in blood and slaughter: They sacrificed their sons and
daughters, pieces of themselves, to devils, and added murder, the most
unnatural murder, to their idolatry; one cannot think of it without
horror. They shed innocent blood, the most innocent, for it was
infant-blood, nay, it was the blood of their sons and their daughters.
See the power of the spirit that works in the children of
disobedience, and see his malice. The beginning of idolatry and
superstition, like that of strife, is as the letting forth of water,
and there is no villany which those that venture upon it can be sure
they shall stop short of, for God justly gives them up to a reprobate
mind, Rom. i. 28.
(2.) Their sin was, in part, their own punishment; for by it,
[1.] They wronged their country: The land was polluted with blood, v.
38. That pleasant land, that holy land, was rendered uncomfortable to
themselves, and unfit to receive those kind tokens of God's favour and
presence in it which were designed to be its honour. [2.] They wronged
their consciences (v. 39): They went a whoring with their own
inventions, and so debauched their own minds, and were defiled with
their own works, and rendered odious in the eyes of the holy God, and
perhaps of their own consciences.
*****
What kind of person would think God evil when the Bible clearly states
that man chose to become evil by disobeying God's commands? And yet,
God loved us so much that he gave his only son Jesus to die on the
cross for our sins, that whoever believes and puts his/her faith in
him will not perish but have everlasting life in paradise?
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| User: "Editor of EvilBible.com" |
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18 Oct 2003 03:43:09 PM |
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"Jim Ignatuk" <jim_ignatuk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
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Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Oct. 13, 2003 from www.EvilBible.com:
Destroy People (Psalms 106:34-35 NAB)
"They did not destroy the peoples as the LORD had commanded them,
but
mingled with the nations and imitated their ways."
Matthew Henry's Commentary:
Here, I. The narrative concludes with an account of Israel's conduct
in Canaan, which was of a piece with that in the wilderness, and God's
dealings with them, wherein, as all along, both justice and mercy
appeared.
1. They were very provoking to God. The miracles and mercies
which settled them in Canaan made no more deep and durable impressions
upon them than those which fetched them out of Egypt; for by the time
they were just settled in Canaan they corrupted themselves, and
forsook God. Observe,
Don't you see anything wrong with killing atheists?
(1.) The steps of their apostasy. [1.] They spared the nations
which God had doomed to destruction (v. 34);
They has morals and didn't want to murder people. Why is that evil?
I snipped the rest of the ***** you posted. You apparently agree with
the murderous commentary and are so stupid that you don't see anything wrong
with murder. You would make a nice terrorist.
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| User: "Jim Ignatuk" |
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18 Oct 2003 08:00:05 PM |
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"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message news:<bms8la$1g2$1@bob.news.rcn.net>...
You would make a nice terrorist.
Ironically, you are the one who hates me... does that make you a Nazi? :-)
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| User: "Editor of EvilBible.com" |
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18 Oct 2003 08:35:38 PM |
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"Jim Ignatuk" <jim_ignatuk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
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You would make a nice terrorist.
Ironically, you are the one who hates me... does that make you a Nazi? :-)
I only hate evil assholes. If you are going to post a bunch of *****
that says it is totally moral to kill atheists like myself then you deserve
every bit of hatred that I can muster up.
And by the way I also hate Hitler. By your logic that would make me a Nazi.
Don't you see how stupid you are?
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| User: "Jim Ignatuk" |
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19 Oct 2003 01:14:01 AM |
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"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message news:<bmsppm$70s$1@bob.news.rcn.net>...
I only hate evil @#&$oles. If you are going to post a bunch of bull!$#t
that says it is totally moral to kill atheists like myself then you deserve
every bit of hatred that I can muster up.
Read the whole passage, look at the people God was upset at: they
practiced human sacrifice to demons, killing their own children (this
was the tribe the Lord wanted wiped out). Israel joined with these
horrible people, instead of wiping them out as they were supposed to.
I seem to remember the US making war against a group of people who
murdered innocents (WWII), would you call the US evil for warring
against Hitler?
34They did not destroy the peoples
as the LORD had commanded them,
35 but they mingled with the nations
and adopted their customs.
36 They worshiped their idols,
which became a snare to them.
37 They sacrificed their sons
and their daughters to demons.
38 They shed innocent blood,
the blood of their sons and daughters,
whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan,
and the land was desecrated by their blood.
39 They defiled themselves by what they did;
by their deeds they prostituted themselves.
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| User: "Editor of EvilBible.com" |
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19 Oct 2003 09:42:20 AM |
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"Jim Ignatuk" <jim_ignatuk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
news:<bmsppm$70s$1@bob.news.rcn.net>...
I only hate evil @#&$oles. If you are going to post a bunch of bull!$#t
that says it is totally moral to kill atheists like myself then you
deserve
every bit of hatred that I can muster up.
Read the whole passage, look at the people God was upset at: they
practiced human sacrifice to demons, killing their own children (this
was the tribe the Lord wanted wiped out). Israel joined with these
horrible people, instead of wiping them out as they were supposed to.
I seem to remember the US making war against a group of people who
murdered innocents (WWII), would you call the US evil for warring
against Hitler?
34They did not destroy the peoples
as the LORD had commanded them,
35 but they mingled with the nations
and adopted their customs.
36 They worshiped their idols,
which became a snare to them.
37 They sacrificed their sons
and their daughters to demons.
38 They shed innocent blood,
the blood of their sons and daughters,
whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan,
and the land was desecrated by their blood.
39 They defiled themselves by what they did;
by their deeds they prostituted themselves.
Did you ever think that maybe truth is the first casualty in war? What
better way to get support for a mass murder than to call them all baby
killers. And even if it was true, how is killing all the babies, men,
women, and children any better?
By the way, the Bible approves of quite a few instances of baby killing too.
See my web page at:
http://www.evilbible.com/Ritual_Human_Sacrifice.htm
Considering that these stories of ritual human sacrifice come from the same
people who were doing it, I find them more believable.
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| User: "carol" |
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19 Oct 2003 12:08:47 PM |
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I bet you get all warm and fuzzy inside from all that hate.
Kahlil
Editor of EvilBible.com wrote:
"Jim Ignatuk" <jim_ignatuk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
news:<bmsppm$70s$1@bob.news.rcn.net>...
I only hate evil @#&$oles. If you are going to post a bunch of bull!$#t
that says it is totally moral to kill atheists like myself then you
deserve
every bit of hatred that I can muster up.
Read the whole passage, look at the people God was upset at: they
practiced human sacrifice to demons, killing their own children (this
was the tribe the Lord wanted wiped out). Israel joined with these
horrible people, instead of wiping them out as they were supposed to.
I seem to remember the US making war against a group of people who
murdered innocents (WWII), would you call the US evil for warring
against Hitler?
34They did not destroy the peoples
as the LORD had commanded them,
35 but they mingled with the nations
and adopted their customs.
36 They worshiped their idols,
which became a snare to them.
37 They sacrificed their sons
and their daughters to demons.
38 They shed innocent blood,
the blood of their sons and daughters,
whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan,
and the land was desecrated by their blood.
39 They defiled themselves by what they did;
by their deeds they prostituted themselves.
Did you ever think that maybe truth is the first casualty in war? What
better way to get support for a mass murder than to call them all baby
killers. And even if it was true, how is killing all the babies, men,
women, and children any better?
By the way, the Bible approves of quite a few instances of baby killing too.
See my web page at:
http://www.evilbible.com/Ritual_Human_Sacrifice.htm
Considering that these stories of ritual human sacrifice come from the same
people who were doing it, I find them more believable.
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| User: "Jim Ignatuk" |
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19 Oct 2003 06:12:50 PM |
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Editor of EvilBible.com wrote:
By the way, the Bible approves of quite a few instances of baby killing too.
A proposterous statement, and your little website offers the weakest
case I've ever seen, it's no wonder you call yourself an "editor." :-)
Your first example, Abraham and Isaac, was nothing more than a test of
faith, which is proved by the fact that God stopped him from killing
his son before he could go through with it. Score one for God being
against human sacrifice.
Your second example, the plague on Egypt, was precluded by the Lord
first warning Pharoh six (6) times before leading up to this plague,
and for which God also provided a way of escape - blood sprinkled on
the crossbars of the doorway (symbolic of God's ultimate provision,
his son who died for us) - so that the firstborn sons would not have
to die. Score another one for God being against sacrifice - he gave
multiple warnings, and provided a way out, and it was the Lord's angel
who did the killing, no man was instructed to do so.
Your third example, Jephthah's daughter, was simply the man making a
rash promise to the Lord and choosing to honor it, not because God
told him to, but because he swore to the Lord of his own choice, not
because he was prompted or asked to by the Lord (there are numerous
places where the Bible says not to be quick to make oaths); the Lord
never commanded Jephthah to murder his own daughter, and nowhere was
the Lord pleased at this action, or at the oath which Jephthah took on
his own accord. Score a third for God not advocating human sacrifice.
Your most powerful example, which you failed to include in your
website, was Jesus' death on the cross, God's own son sent to die for
all mankind, so that we don't have to die for our sins. We are all
guilty of sin, and sin is punishable by death, God was extremely clear
about that from the beginning, even with Adam. Yet even though we
disobey, God provided a way out, his own son, so that we do not have
to die. Score a fourth for God not wanting us to die, even though we
are evil, disobey him, and even hate him, he still loves us. God will
not tolerate sin, but he will accept our faith in his son's payment
for that sin, and give us life everlasting in paradise.
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| User: "Editor of EvilBible.com" |
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19 Oct 2003 08:20:15 PM |
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"Jim Ignatuk" <jim_ignatuk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Editor of EvilBible.com wrote:
By the way, the Bible approves of quite a few instances of baby killing
too.
A proposterous statement, and your little website offers the weakest
case I've ever seen, it's no wonder you call yourself an "editor." :-)
Your first example, Abraham and Isaac, was nothing more than a test of
faith, which is proved by the fact that God stopped him from killing
his son before he could go through with it. Score one for God being
against human sacrifice.
Your second example, the plague on Egypt, was precluded by the Lord
first warning Pharoh six (6) times before leading up to this plague,
and for which God also provided a way of escape - blood sprinkled on
the crossbars of the doorway (symbolic of God's ultimate provision,
his son who died for us) - so that the firstborn sons would not have
to die. Score another one for God being against sacrifice - he gave
multiple warnings, and provided a way out, and it was the Lord's angel
who did the killing, no man was instructed to do so.
Your third example, Jephthah's daughter, was simply the man making a
rash promise to the Lord and choosing to honor it, not because God
told him to, but because he swore to the Lord of his own choice, not
because he was prompted or asked to by the Lord (there are numerous
places where the Bible says not to be quick to make oaths); the Lord
never commanded Jephthah to murder his own daughter, and nowhere was
the Lord pleased at this action, or at the oath which Jephthah took on
his own accord. Score a third for God not advocating human sacrifice.
Your most powerful example, which you failed to include in your
website, was Jesus' death on the cross, God's own son sent to die for
all mankind, so that we don't have to die for our sins. We are all
guilty of sin, and sin is punishable by death, God was extremely clear
about that from the beginning, even with Adam. Yet even though we
disobey, God provided a way out, his own son, so that we do not have
to die. Score a fourth for God not wanting us to die, even though we
are evil, disobey him, and even hate him, he still loves us. God will
not tolerate sin, but he will accept our faith in his son's payment
for that sin, and give us life everlasting in paradise.
Why did you ignore the clearest example from my web site? (Leviticus
27:28-29) "Note also that any one of his possessions which a man vows as
doomed to the Lord, whether it is a human being or an animal, or a
hereditary field, shall be neither sold nor ransomed; everything that is
thus doomed becomes most sacred to the Lord. All human beings that are
doomed lose the right to be redeemed; they must be put to death." It
doesn't get any clearer than that!!!
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| User: "Jim Ignatuk" |
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20 Oct 2003 09:02:03 AM |
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From: (Jim Ignatuk)
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Subject: Re: Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Oct. 13
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"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message news:<bmvd8n$3f4$1@bob.news.rcn.net>...
Why did you ignore the clearest example from my web site? (Leviticus
27:28-29) "Note also that any one of his possessions which a man vows as
doomed to the Lord, whether it is a human being or an animal, or a
hereditary field, shall be neither sold nor ransomed; everything that is
thus doomed becomes most sacred to the Lord. All human beings that are
doomed lose the right to be redeemed; they must be put to death." It
doesn't get any clearer than that!!!
There are several sins in the Mosaic Law punishable by death, this
passage says that those who commit sins punishable by death must be
put to death; then the Lord goes on to sacrifice his own son Jesus,
so that we do not have to die for our sins, but can by faith accept
God's payment for us, and do not have to die. God does not want us to
die - he loved us so much that he sent his own son, that whoever puts
their faith in him will not die, but will have everlasting life. (John
3:16)
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20 Oct 2003 09:19:34 AM |
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"Jim Ignatuk" <> wrote in message
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From: (Jim Ignatuk)
"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
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Why did you ignore the clearest example from my web site? (Leviticus
27:28-29) "Note also that any one of his possessions which a man vows
as
doomed to the Lord, whether it is a human being or an animal, or a
hereditary field, shall be neither sold nor ransomed; everything that is
thus doomed becomes most sacred to the Lord. All human beings that are
doomed lose the right to be redeemed; they must be put to death." It
doesn't get any clearer than that!!!
There are several sins in the Mosaic Law punishable by death, this
passage says that those who commit sins punishable by death must be
put to death; then the Lord goes on to sacrifice his own son Jesus,
so that we do not have to die for our sins, but can by faith accept
God's payment for us, and do not have to die. God does not want us to
die - he loved us so much that he sent his own son, that whoever puts
their faith in him will not die, but will have everlasting life. (John
3:16)
You must be smoking some really strong stuff to think that this verse is
talking about capital punishment! Why would someone punish a field? Read
the quote again several times when you aren't so high. It is *clearly*
talking about a sacrifice.
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| User: "Jim Ignatuk" |
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20 Oct 2003 01:57:47 PM |
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"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message news:<bn0qtu$qev$1@bob.news.rcn.net>...
"Jim Ignatuk" < > wrote in message
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From: (Jim Ignatuk)
There are several sins in the Mosaic Law punishable by death, this
passage says that those who commit sins punishable by death must be
put to death; then the Lord goes on to sacrifice his own son Jesus,
so that we do not have to die for our sins, but can by faith accept
God's payment for us, and do not have to die. God does not want us to
die - he loved us so much that he sent his own son, that whoever puts
their faith in him will not die, but will have everlasting life. (John
3:16)
You must be smoking some really strong stuff to think that this verse is
talking about capital punishment! Why would someone punish a field? Read
the quote again several times when you aren't so high. It is *clearly*
talking about a sacrifice.
It actually refers to that which is owed to the Lord, whether it be a
fruit or grain offering, a tithe of land, an animal sacrifice for a
sin, or capital punishment for a crime; all that is owed to the Lord
is to be given to the Lord and not spared, according to Mosaic law.
We all owe our lives to the Lord for our sins, yet the Lord sacrificed
his own son that we might be spared, if we put our faith in him we
will not die but have everlasting life in paradise.
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20 Oct 2003 10:17:09 PM |
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"Jim Ignatuk" <> wrote in message
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"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
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"Jim Ignatuk" < > wrote in message
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From: (Jim Ignatuk)
There are several sins in the Mosaic Law punishable by death, this
passage says that those who commit sins punishable by death must be
put to death; then the Lord goes on to sacrifice his own son Jesus,
so that we do not have to die for our sins, but can by faith accept
God's payment for us, and do not have to die. God does not want us to
die - he loved us so much that he sent his own son, that whoever puts
their faith in him will not die, but will have everlasting life. (John
3:16)
You must be smoking some really strong stuff to think that this verse is
talking about capital punishment! Why would someone punish a field?
Read
the quote again several times when you aren't so high. It is *clearly*
talking about a sacrifice.
It actually refers to that which is owed to the Lord, whether it be a
fruit or grain offering, a tithe of land, an animal sacrifice for a
sin, or capital punishment for a crime; all that is owed to the Lord
is to be given to the Lord and not spared, according to Mosaic law.
We all owe our lives to the Lord for our sins, yet the Lord sacrificed
his own son that we might be spared, if we put our faith in him we
will not die but have everlasting life in paradise.
(Leviticus 27:28-29) "Note also that any one of his possessions which a man
vows as doomed to the Lord, whether it is a human being or an animal, or a
hereditary field, shall be neither sold nor ransomed; everything that is
thus doomed becomes most sacred to the Lord. All human beings that are
doomed lose the right to be redeemed; they must be put to death." Nothing
about capital punishment here. You just made that up. Why would a person
who is guilty of a capital punishment sin be "most sacred to the Lord"?
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22 Oct 2003 06:49:37 AM |
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"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message news:<bn28g4$ce5$1@bob.news.rcn.net>...
"Jim Ignatuk" <jim_ignatuk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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It actually refers to that which is owed to the Lord, whether it be a
fruit or grain offering, a tithe of land, an animal sacrifice for a
sin, or capital punishment for a crime; all that is owed to the Lord
is to be given to the Lord and not spared, according to Mosaic law.
We all owe our lives to the Lord for our sins, yet the Lord sacrificed
his own son that we might be spared, if we put our faith in him we
will not die but have everlasting life in paradise.
(Leviticus 27:28-29) "Note also that any one of his possessions which a man
vows as doomed to the Lord, whether it is a human being or an animal, or a
hereditary field, shall be neither sold nor ransomed; everything that is
thus doomed becomes most sacred to the Lord. All human beings that are
doomed lose the right to be redeemed; they must be put to death." Nothing
about capital punishment here. You just made that up. Why would a person
who is guilty of a capital punishment sin be "most sacred to the Lord"?
Thanks for re-posting the verse. Notice it says that people who have
committed sins punishable by death are "doomed to the Lord" not
"sacred" as you said. Those individuals who are condemned to death by
the Mosaic Law must be put to death according to the Mosaic Law. It's
about capital punishment - you are the one making things up about
human sacrifice. Why are you so anti-Semitic?
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22 Oct 2003 10:33:05 AM |
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"Jim Ignatuk" <jim_ignatuk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
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"Jim Ignatuk" <jim_ignatuk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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It actually refers to that which is owed to the Lord, whether it be a
fruit or grain offering, a tithe of land, an animal sacrifice for a
sin, or capital punishment for a crime; all that is owed to the Lord
is to be given to the Lord and not spared, according to Mosaic law.
We all owe our lives to the Lord for our sins, yet the Lord sacrificed
his own son that we might be spared, if we put our faith in him we
will not die but have everlasting life in paradise.
(Leviticus 27:28-29) "Note also that any one of his possessions which a
man
vows as doomed to the Lord, whether it is a human being or an animal, or
a
hereditary field, shall be neither sold nor ransomed; everything that is
thus doomed becomes most sacred to the Lord. All human beings that are
doomed lose the right to be redeemed; they must be put to death."
Nothing
about capital punishment here. You just made that up. Why would a
person
who is guilty of a capital punishment sin be "most sacred to the Lord"?
Thanks for re-posting the verse. Notice it says that people who have
committed sins punishable by death are "doomed to the Lord" not
"sacred" as you said. Those individuals who are condemned to death by
the Mosaic Law must be put to death according to the Mosaic Law. It's
about capital punishment - you are the one making things up about
human sacrifice. Why are you so anti-Semitic?
1) It says NOTHING about capital punishment.
2) It says NOTHING about sins.
3) It DOES say "sacred". Read it again when you aren't so high. "everything
that is thus doomed becomes most ***sacred*** to the Lord."
Why would a sinner guilty of a capital punishment crime "become most sacred
to the Lord"?
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22 Oct 2003 03:41:50 PM |
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"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message news:<bn67vs$sik$1@bob.news.rcn.net>...
Why would a sinner guilty of a capital punishment crime "become most sacred
to the Lord"?
sacred (from Webster at m-w.com):
1 a : dedicated or set apart for the service or worship of a deity
b : devoted exclusively to one service or use
How about definition 1b, something devoted exclusively to a single
use, such as one doomed to die for a sin punishable by death.
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| User: "Editor of EvilBible.com" |
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22 Oct 2003 07:11:01 PM |
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"Jim Ignatuk" <jim_ignatuk@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
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Why would a sinner guilty of a capital punishment crime "become most
sacred
to the Lord"?
sacred (from Webster at m-w.com):
1 a : dedicated or set apart for the service or worship of a deity
b : devoted exclusively to one service or use
How about definition 1b, something devoted exclusively to a single
use, such as one doomed to die for a sin punishable by death.
I addressed this in a previous thread. I won't repeat it.
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| User: "David V." |
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20 Oct 2003 10:08:45 AM |
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Jim Ignatuk wrote:
There are several sins in the Mosaic Law punishable by
death, this passage says that those who commit sins
punishable by death must be put to death; then the Lord
goes on to sacrifice his own son Jesus, so that we do not
have to die for our sins...
No where in the bible does it say that. According to the
mythology jesus died for the ORIGINAL sin, not everyday sins.
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David V.
Yosemite Llama Ranch
UDP for WebTV
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| User: "Kenneth Doyle" |
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19 Oct 2003 07:22:26 PM |
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(Jim Ignatuk) wrote in
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Editor of EvilBible.com wrote:
By the way, the Bible approves of quite a few instances of
baby killing too.
A proposterous statement, and your little website offers
the weakest case I've ever seen, it's no wonder you call
yourself an "editor." :-)
Your first example, Abraham and Isaac, was nothing more
than a test of faith, which is proved by the fact that God
stopped him from killing his son before he could go through
with it. Score one for God being against human sacrifice.
It was no test of faith. How could it have been? Reportedly,
God spoke directly to Abraham. No faith necessary there.
Your second example, the plague on Egypt, was precluded by
the Lord first warning Pharoh six (6) times before leading
up to this plague,
How many times did Pharaoh change his mind, deciding to comply
with Moses' request. Why did God ignore that change of mind and
"harden his heart" (Pharaoh's), so that he would again refuse
Moses' request?
and for which God also provided a way of
escape - blood sprinkled on the crossbars of the doorway
(symbolic of God's ultimate provision, his son who died for
us) - so that the firstborn sons would not have to die.
Score another one for God being against sacrifice - he gave
multiple warnings,
and when Pharaoh heeded those warnings and changed his mind, God
hardened Pharaoh's heart so that he would again refuse Moses'
request. Care to explain again how it's all our fault because
we have free will?
and provided a way out, and it was the
Lord's angel who did the killing, no man was instructed to
do so.
Your third example, Jephthah's daughter, was simply the man
making a rash promise to the Lord and choosing to honor it,
not because God told him to, but because he swore to the
Lord of his own choice, not because he was prompted or
asked to by the Lord (there are numerous places where the
Bible says not to be quick to make oaths); the Lord never
commanded Jephthah to murder his own daughter, and nowhere
was the Lord pleased at this action, or at the oath which
Jephthah took on his own accord. Score a third for God not
advocating human sacrifice.
OK, you can have that one.
Your most powerful example, which you failed to include in
your website, was Jesus' death on the cross, God's own son
sent to die for all mankind, so that we don't have to die
for our sins. We are all guilty of sin, and sin is
punishable by death, God was extremely clear about that
from the beginning, even with Adam. Yet even though we
disobey, God provided a way out, his own son, so that we do
not have to die.
Score a fourth for God not wanting us to
die, even though we are evil, disobey him, and even hate
him, he still loves us.
You seem to be scoring points for different things, but adding
them up as if they were all the same thing.
God will not tolerate sin,
Yes, he will. In the case of Pharaoh, who tried to change his
mind and do the "right thing". God not only tolerates sin, but
forces Pharaoh to commit sin by "hardening his heart". Why does
he do that? Reportedly, the reason is so that everybody will
know that he is God. Well, did it work? Does everyone know
that God is who he says he is? All that carnage for an
extremely ineffective solution. Some God you got there cobber.
but he
will accept our faith in his son's payment for that sin,
and give us life everlasting in paradise.
Oh right, that proves it then.
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| User: "David V." |
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19 Oct 2003 07:36:17 PM |
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Jim Ignatuk wrote:
Editor of EvilBible.com wrote: By the way, the Bible
approves of quite a few instances of baby killing too.
A proposterous statement, and your little website offers
the weakest case I've ever seen, it's no wonder you call
yourself an "editor." :-)
It seems you don't know your own bible.
Your first example, Abraham and Isaac, was nothing more
than a test of faith, which is proved by the fact that
God stopped him from killing his son before he could go
through with it. Score one for God being against human
sacrifice.
That Abe was going to do it is just an example of how it was
common back then. This OT god needed blood to be appeased.
Your second example, the plague on Egypt, was precluded
by the Lord first warning Pharoh six (6) times before
leading up to this plague...
If you bothered to read the actual myth you'd see that the
Pharaoh said that they could go, but the god "hardened his
heart" and FORCED the Pharaoh to change his mind. The blood
is on your gods "hands".
What was left out was all the killings in Numbers and other
wars where they went and killed EVERYONE in the city. A
common practice back then. The OT god was pleased at that.
Your most powerful example, which you failed to include
in your website, was Jesus' death on the cross, God's own
son sent to die for all mankind, so that we don't have to
die for our sins....
Which is a pretty silly thing to do once you think about it.
--
David V.
Yosemite Llama Ranch
UDP for WebTV
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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19 Oct 2003 10:24:50 PM |
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On 18 Oct 2003 23:14:01 -0700, (Jim Ignatuk)
wrote:
"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message news:<bmsppm$70s$1@bob.news.rcn.net>...
I only hate evil @#&$oles. If you are going to post a bunch of bull!$#t
that says it is totally moral to kill atheists like myself then you deserve
every bit of hatred that I can muster up.
Read the whole passage, look at the people God was upset at: they
practiced human sacrifice to demons, killing their own children (this
was the tribe the Lord wanted wiped out). Israel joined with these
horrible people, instead of wiping them out as they were supposed to.
I seem to remember the US making war against a group of people who
murdered innocents (WWII), would you call the US evil for warring
against Hitler?
It kind of defeats the purpose when the Israelites are being told to
also wipe out the children they were so concerned about. That would
make them not only as evil but hypocrites, too. Or didn't you consider
this?
34They did not destroy the peoples
as the LORD had commanded them,
35 but they mingled with the nations
and adopted their customs.
36 They worshiped their idols,
which became a snare to them.
37 They sacrificed their sons
and their daughters to demons.
38 They shed innocent blood,
the blood of their sons and daughters,
whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan,
and the land was desecrated by their blood.
39 They defiled themselves by what they did;
by their deeds they prostituted themselves.
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| User: "Angeleyes" |
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13 Oct 2003 03:17:42 PM |
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and yet my child, with your blasphemy, Jesus Christ still loves you....
Let us pray for this poor soul...
That he who posts such blasphemy against Holy Trinity that he finds that his
lies are false and that he is being led by a false entity. Oh Dear Lord,
forgive him of his sins and bless him as you have forgave me of my sins
through your precious blood on the cross.
Let everyone on this newsgroup pray for this poor soul. May he find that
Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life.
Your in Christ my child
Chris
"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
news:bmeki0$79a$1@bob.news.rcn.net...
Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Oct. 13, 2003 from www.EvilBible.com:
Destroy People (Psalms 106:34-35 NAB)
"They did not destroy the peoples as the LORD had commanded them, but
mingled with the nations and imitated their ways."
What kind of person would get their moral guidance from an ancient book of
myths and magic that says it is OK to murder, rape, pillage, and plunder?
Read more about the evils of the Bible at www.EvilBible.com.
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| User: "Bill Litchfield" |
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13 Oct 2003 05:49:28 PM |
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"Angeleyes" <archangel-1@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
news:GLDib.127037$xx4.21404321@twister.neo.rr.com...
and yet my child, with your blasphemy, Jesus Christ still loves you....
Let us pray for this poor soul...
That he who posts such blasphemy against Holy Trinity that he finds that
his
lies are false and that he is being led by a false entity. Oh Dear Lord,
forgive him of his sins and bless him as you have forgave me of my sins
through your precious blood on the cross.
The Evil Bible Editor has an agenda, to be sure. However, every one of his
quotes comes straight out of your Holy Bible. Are you saying these quotes
are lies? Are you saying that by using said quotes, he is being led by a
false entity. If God inspired those quotes, is he that false entity?
Shalom,
Bill
Let everyone on this newsgroup pray for this poor soul. May he find that
Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life.
Your in Christ my child
Chris
"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
news:bmeki0$79a$1@bob.news.rcn.net...
Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Oct. 13, 2003 from www.EvilBible.com:
Destroy People (Psalms 106:34-35 NAB)
"They did not destroy the peoples as the LORD had commanded them,
but
mingled with the nations and imitated their ways."
What kind of person would get their moral guidance from an ancient book
of
myths and magic that says it is OK to murder, rape, pillage, and
plunder?
Read more about the evils of the Bible at www.EvilBible.com.
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| User: "Brian Ceccarelli" |
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17 Oct 2003 10:53:18 PM |
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Bill,
Come on. You are smarter than Evil Editor. You and I both know that
Evil Editor's posts come from the Bible. But we both know that EE has
taken every one of them out of context. Many times Evil Editor includes
the rebuttal in his post without even knowing it.
Satan quoted the Bible out of context too. Remember the quotes
Satan tried to tempt Jesus with during those forty days in the desert?
Evil Editor is just doing the same, except he is not nearly as good at
it. EE's name sake is quite appropriate. For that is exactly what he
does. Edits the Bible with an evil agenda. He reports only the bad
things, never the good. And his reports never mention the reasons, the
justice behind it.
Have you ever read the "The Grand Inquisitor" by the Russian author
Dosteyevsky {sp?}. It is a chapter in the Brothers Karamazov It is the
best treatise I have ever read explaining why Satan chose those 3 things to
tempt Jesus with.
EE should read this book too. Perhaps he'll get better at the art of
half truths.
Brian
http://www.talusmusic.com/Bible
"Bill Litchfield" <jomarie@hscis.net> wrote in message
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"Angeleyes" <archangel-1@neo.rr.com> wrote in message
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The Evil Bible Editor has an agenda, to be sure. However, every one of his
quotes comes straight out of your Holy Bible. Are you saying these quotes
are lies? Are you saying that by using said quotes, he is being led by a
false entity. If God inspired those quotes, is he that false entity?
Shalom,
Bill
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18 Oct 2003 03:31:39 PM |
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"Brian Ceccarelli" <spam@talusmusic.com> wrote in message
news:OO2kb.34769$SE3.11100@twister.southeast.rr.com...
Bill,
Come on. You are smarter than Evil Editor. You and I both know
that
Evil Editor's posts come from the Bible. But we both know that EE has
taken every one of them out of context. Many times Evil Editor includes
the rebuttal in his post without even knowing it.
Satan quoted the Bible out of context too. Remember the quotes
Satan tried to tempt Jesus with during those forty days in the desert?
Evil Editor is just doing the same, except he is not nearly as good
at
it. EE's name sake is quite appropriate. For that is exactly what
he
does. Edits the Bible with an evil agenda. He reports only the bad
things, never the good. And his reports never mention the reasons, the
justice behind it.
It's funny how nearly everyone who claims that my Bible quotes are taken out
of context never seem to want to explain what the "correct" context is. Why
don't you start with explaining the "correct" context for the quote that
started this thread? Let me repost it for you:
Destroy People (Psalms 106:34-35 NAB)
"They did not destroy the peoples as the LORD had commanded them, but
mingled with the nations and imitated their ways."
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| User: "Brian Ceccarelli" |
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24 Oct 2003 10:39:44 PM |
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It's funny how Editor of EvilBible is so blind as not read "but mingled with
the nations and imitated their ways." What are their ways EE? Get a
history book.
"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
news:bms7vo$t42$1@bob.news.rcn.net...
"Brian Ceccarelli" <spam@talusmusic.com> wrote in message
news:OO2kb.34769$SE3.11100@twister.southeast.rr.com...
Bill,
Come on. You are smarter than Evil Editor. You and I both know
that
Evil Editor's posts come from the Bible. But we both know that EE has
taken every one of them out of context. Many times Evil Editor
includes
the rebuttal in his post without even knowing it.
Satan quoted the Bible out of context too. Remember the quotes
Satan tried to tempt Jesus with during those forty days in the desert?
Evil Editor is just doing the same, except he is not nearly as good
at
it. EE's name sake is quite appropriate. For that is exactly what
he
does. Edits the Bible with an evil agenda. He reports only the bad
things, never the good. And his reports never mention the reasons, the
justice behind it.
It's funny how nearly everyone who claims that my Bible quotes are taken
out
of context never seem to want to explain what the "correct" context is.
Why
don't you start with explaining the "correct" context for the quote that
started this thread? Let me repost it for you:
Destroy People (Psalms 106:34-35 NAB)
"They did not destroy the peoples as the LORD had commanded them, but
mingled with the nations and imitated their ways."
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| User: "Editor of EvilBible.com" |
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25 Oct 2003 12:07:41 AM |
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"Brian Ceccarelli" <spam@talusmusic.com> wrote in message
news:4gmmb.17335$fl1.363724@twister.southeast.rr.com...
It's funny how Editor of EvilBible is so blind as not read "but mingled
with
the nations and imitated their ways." What are their ways EE? Get a
history book.
They worshiped other Gods.
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| User: "David V." |
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17 Oct 2003 11:56:57 PM |
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Brian Ceccarelli wrote:
Come on. You are smarter than Evil Editor. You and I
both know that Evil Editor's posts come from the Bible.
But we both know that EE has taken every one of them out
of context....
That's the problem. Most have not been out of context, but
just something the christians don't like.
--
David V.
Yosemite Llama Ranch
UDP for WebTV
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| User: "Roshard Davis" |
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13 Oct 2003 11:58:42 PM |
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"Angeleyes" <archangel-1@neo.rr.com> wrote in message news:<GLDib.127037$xx4.21404321@twister.neo.rr.com>...
and yet my child, with your blasphemy, Jesus Christ still loves you....
How can someone that doesn't exist love someone?
Let us pray for this poor soul...
....and why would I want to do something so stupid like that?
That he who posts such blasphemy against Holy Trinity that he finds that his
lies are false and that he is being led by a false entity. Oh Dear Lord,
forgive him of his sins and bless him as you have forgave me of my sins
through your precious blood on the cross.
It's not enough that people like this have to pray inspite the fact
that it doesn't work, but they also have to pray to a being that they
have no proof of it's existence.
Let everyone on this newsgroup pray for this poor soul. May he find that
Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life.
A fictional character is the way to the truth and the life. Wow! That
sounds real logical doesn't it?
Your in Christ my child
Chris
Looks like someone have been skipping their medication.
Visit My Website:
http://www.geocities.com/freedomwarrior5000
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| User: "oldriver" |
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21 Oct 2003 01:23:16 AM |
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"Angeleyes" <archangel-1@neo.rr.com> wrote in message news:<GLDib.127037$xx4.21404321@twister.neo.rr.com>...
and yet my child, with your blasphemy, Jesus Christ still loves you....
Let us pray for this poor soul...
That he who posts such blasphemy against Holy Trinity that he finds that his
lies are false and that he is being led by a false entity. Oh Dear Lord,
forgive him of his sins and bless him as you have forgave me of my sins
through your precious blood on the cross.
Let everyone on this newsgroup pray for this poor soul. May he find that
Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life.
Your in Christ my child
Chris
"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
news:bmeki0$79a$1@bob.news.rcn.net...
Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Oct. 13, 2003 from www.EvilBible.com:
Destroy People (Psalms 106:34-35 NAB)
"They did not destroy the peoples as the LORD had commanded them, but
mingled with the nations and imitated their ways."
....snip
....What, observe only Psalms 106:34-35, when one could observe Psalms 106:34-39
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