Religions > Atheism > Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Sept. 26 (God Kills Men and Beasts)
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Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Sept. 26 (God Kills Men and Beasts) |
Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Sept. 26, 2003 from www.EvilBible.com:
God Kills Men and Beasts (Jeremiah 21:4-10 NLT)
"'This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: I will make your
weapons useless against the king of Babylon and the Babylonians who are
attacking you. Yes, I will bring your enemies right into the heart of this
city. I myself will fight against you with great power, for I am very
angry. You have made me furious! I will send a terrible plague upon this
city, and both people and animals will die. And then, says the LORD, even
after King Zedekiah, his officials, and everyone else in the city have
survived war, famine, and disease, I will hand them over to King
Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon. He will slaughter them all without mercy, pity,
or compassion.' "Tell all the people, 'This is what the LORD says: Take
your choice of life or death! Everyone who stays in Jerusalem will die from
war, famine, or disease, but those who go out and surrender to the
Babylonians will live. For I have decided to bring disaster and not good
upon this city, says the LORD. It will be captured by the king of Babylon,
and he will reduce it to ashes.'"
What kind of person would get their moral guidance from an ancient book of
myths and magic that says it is OK to murder, rape, pillage, and plunder?
Read more about the evils of the Bible at www.EvilBible.com.
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26 Sep 2003 01:30:23 PM |
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So what is good in life then?
God is not responsible for any of mans demises. We all have choices we make,
and we can either accept to obey him or follow our own ways which ultimately
allows the devil to destroy us.
THE ANTICHRIST SPIRIT SEEMS TO SPEAK FREELY IN YOUR HATRED TEXT ON YOUR
WEBSITE.
REPENT....................
"Editor of EvilBible.com" <Dont_Reply@Here.com> wrote in message
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Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Sept. 26, 2003 from www.EvilBible.com:
God Kills Men and Beasts (Jeremiah 21:4-10 NLT)
"'This is what the LORD, the God of Israel, says: I will make your
weapons useless against the king of Babylon and the Babylonians who are
attacking you. Yes, I will bring your enemies right into the heart of
this
city. I myself will fight against you with great power, for I am very
angry. You have made me furious! I will send a terrible plague upon this
city, and both people and animals will die. And then, says the LORD, even
after King Zedekiah, his officials, and everyone else in the city have
survived war, famine, and disease, I will hand them over to King
Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon. He will slaughter them all without mercy,
pity,
or compassion.' "Tell all the people, 'This is what the LORD says: Take
your choice of life or death! Everyone who stays in Jerusalem will die
from
war, famine, or disease, but those who go out and surrender to the
Babylonians will live. For I have decided to bring disaster and not good
upon this city, says the LORD. It will be captured by the king of
Babylon,
and he will reduce it to ashes.'"
What kind of person would get their moral guidance from an ancient book of
myths and magic that says it is OK to murder, rape, pillage, and plunder?
Read more about the evils of the Bible at www.EvilBible.com.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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27 Sep 2003 12:30:15 AM |
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On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:30:23 +0100, "private"
<tp007g2217@blueyonder.co.uk> posted in alt.atheism:
God is not responsible for any of mans demises.
No? He's responsible for evil. Without it man would have a much
better life.
--
"So much blood has been shed by the Church because of an omission from the Gospel: "Ye
shall be indifferent as to what your neighbor's religion is." Not merely tolerant of it,
but indifferent to it. Divinity is claimed for many religions; but no religion is great
enough or divine enough to add that new law to its code."
- Mark Twain, a Biography
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "private" |
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27 Sep 2003 04:48:55 AM |
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Where could you possible come up with such a belief? Please explain!!!
If you believe in God, then you must believe in Satan.
The keyword been Religion in your quote below.
People follow a set of beliefs, which they concoct part from the bible, part
form other source.
They make up what suites themand call it this religion, that religion, and
do not follow the truth written in the bible.
Its like baking a cake, they add differnet ingredients to produce something
which suites their lifestyle, not what God teaches us to do.
One needs to experience Christ, not religion. Thats the bottom line
Without God, this world would self-destruct, just look whats happening in
the world around you. People ignoring and believing there is no God,
following their won ways. You cannot tell me the world is a better place
than it was 20 years ago.
Classic example is in the States, they took God out of school, now you have
gun-toting youths, with no morale understanding, going around killing
innocent fellow students and teachers.
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:ca4anv402q94ct4e2pfo89ju959h1le4sn@Pern.rk...
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:30:23 +0100, "private"
<tp007g2217@blueyonder.co.uk> posted in alt.atheism:
God is not responsible for any of mans demises.
No? He's responsible for evil. Without it man would have a much
better life.
--
"So much blood has been shed by the Church because of an omission from the
Gospel: "Ye
shall be indifferent as to what your neighbor's religion is." Not merely
tolerant of it,
but indifferent to it. Divinity is claimed for many religions; but no
religion is great
enough or divine enough to add that new law to its code."
- Mark Twain, a Biography
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Woden" |
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| Title: Re: Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Sept. 26 (God Kills Men and Beasts) |
27 Sep 2003 07:13:27 AM |
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"private" <tp007g2217@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
news:O3ddb.6248$f05.3244@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk:
Where could you possible come up with such a belief? Please explain!!!
The bible says just that. Look in Isiah 45:7
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I
the LORD do all these things."
If you believe in God, then you must believe in Satan.
And if you don't believe in gods, then Satan is just another myth like
YHWH.
The keyword been Religion in your quote below.
People follow a set of beliefs, which they concoct part from the
bible, part form other source.
They make up what suites themand call it this religion, that religion,
and do not follow the truth written in the bible.
Its like baking a cake, they add differnet ingredients to produce
something which suites their lifestyle, not what God teaches us to do.
One needs to experience Christ, not religion. Thats the bottom line
How does one experience a 2000 year old myth?
Without God, this world would self-destruct, just look whats happening
in the world around you. People ignoring and believing there is no
God, following their won ways. You cannot tell me the world is a
better place than it was 20 years ago.
Yeah, we've only had wars & murders & rapes & slavery & so on for the last
20 years haven't we? Of course, we didn't have PC's or the internet or
SUV's or GWB's imperial war back then either....hmmm...maybe you're on to
something here...
Classic example is in the States, they took God out of school, now you
have gun-toting youths, with no morale understanding, going around
killing innocent fellow students and teachers.
Yeah, they put "under god" in the plege of allegience and "in god we trust"
on the dollar back in the mid-50's and look at what's happening now. Those
"gun-toting youths with no morale understanding, going around killing
innocent fellow students and teachers."
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:ca4anv402q94ct4e2pfo89ju959h1le4sn@Pern.rk...
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:30:23 +0100, "private"
<tp007g2217@blueyonder.co.uk> posted in alt.atheism:
God is not responsible for any of mans demises.
No? He's responsible for evil. Without it man would have a much
better life.
--
"So much blood has been shed by the Church because of an omission
from the
Gospel: "Ye
shall be indifferent as to what your neighbor's religion is." Not
merely
tolerant of it,
but indifferent to it. Divinity is claimed for many religions; but no
religion is great
enough or divine enough to add that new law to its code."
- Mark Twain, a Biography
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political institution for the control of
people's thoughts, lives, and actions; based on
ancient myths and superstitions perpetrated through
generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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| User: "private" |
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27 Sep 2003 09:22:35 AM |
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"Woden" <woden@charter.net> wrote in message
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"private" <tp007g2217@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
news:O3ddb.6248$f05.3244@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk:
Where could you possible come up with such a belief? Please explain!!!
The bible says just that. Look in Isiah 45:7
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I
the LORD do all these things."
My translation of the bible differs somewhat from the part "and create
evil", it states "and create darkness"
This darkness....disaster suah as the darkness that plagued the Egyptians
If you believe in God, then you must believe in Satan.
And if you don't believe in gods, then Satan is just another myth like
YHWH.
So why then are you reading and quoting from the bible?? There must be some
interest shown on your part?
The keyword been Religion in your quote below.
People follow a set of beliefs, which they concoct part from the
bible, part form other source.
They make up what suites themand call it this religion, that religion,
and do not follow the truth written in the bible.
Its like baking a cake, they add differnet ingredients to produce
something which suites their lifestyle, not what God teaches us to do.
One needs to experience Christ, not religion. Thats the bottom line
How does one experience a 2000 year old myth?
One thing I have noticed is that you always refer to the old testament, try
looking a little into the new testament.
Well for one, you will never experience it with that attitude. I too was
stubborn and refused to believe, said there was no God, until he saved me
from my destruction, bought about by my own desires.
For one, my wife is a miracle that happened in my life.
Without God, this world would self-destruct, just look whats happening
in the world around you. People ignoring and believing there is no
God, following their won ways. You cannot tell me the world is a
better place than it was 20 years ago.
Yeah, we've only had wars & murders & rapes & slavery & so on for the last
20 years haven't we? Of course, we didn't have PC's or the internet or
SUV's or GWB's imperial war back then either....hmmm...maybe you're on to
something here...
Was the world so brutal then? Where you around then to know? You are
speaking about history or myths you have read.
Just as you try to portray the bible to be a myth. A bit of subjective
reading there then?
What I am speaking about is what I have seen and experienced in the last 20+
years. I can see that the world has become more Godless and strayed from the
truth.
Classic example is in the States, they took God out of school, now you
have gun-toting youths, with no morale understanding, going around
killing innocent fellow students and teachers.
Yeah, they put "under god" in the plege of allegience and "in god we
trust"
on the dollar back in the mid-50's and look at what's happening now. Those
"gun-toting youths with no morale understanding, going around killing
innocent fellow students and teachers."
Well, you can say things, like 75% of the UK say they are Christians, but do
they follow the bible and the truth?
absolutely not. What is the point of making a declaration and following the
principles?
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:ca4anv402q94ct4e2pfo89ju959h1le4sn@Pern.rk...
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:30:23 +0100, "private"
<tp007g2217@blueyonder.co.uk> posted in alt.atheism:
God is not responsible for any of mans demises.
No? He's responsible for evil. Without it man would have a much
better life.
--
"So much blood has been shed by the Church because of an omission
from the
Gospel: "Ye
shall be indifferent as to what your neighbor's religion is." Not
merely
tolerant of it,
but indifferent to it. Divinity is claimed for many religions; but no
religion is great
enough or divine enough to add that new law to its code."
- Mark Twain, a Biography
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political institution for the control of
people's thoughts, lives, and actions; based on
ancient myths and superstitions perpetrated through
generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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27 Sep 2003 02:14:41 PM |
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"private" <tp007g2217@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
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"Woden" <woden@charter.net> wrote in message
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"private" <tp007g2217@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
news:O3ddb.6248$f05.3244@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk:
Where could you possible come up with such a belief? Please
explain!!!
The bible says just that. Look in Isiah 45:7
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create
evil: I the LORD do all these things."
My translation of the bible differs somewhat from the part "and create
evil", it states "and create darkness"
This darkness....disaster suah as the darkness that plagued the
Egyptians
Now why should I have to worry about which translation is correct in order
to understand this god? Shouldn't an omnipotentent, omnscient, superbeing
that wants us to believe in him, be able to provide clear instructions in
whatever language people understand? Since this god can't (or at least
hasn't) provided such a document, then I see no reason to believe that he
is all powerful, all knowing and interested in my belief or my worship.
If you believe in God, then you must believe in Satan.
And if you don't believe in gods, then Satan is just another myth
like YHWH.
So why then are you reading and quoting from the bible?? There must be
some interest shown on your part?
Interest in understanding why fools like you think that the rest of us
should believe these fairy tales. And how to defend against further
efforts to incorporate these fairy tales into our government and laws.
The keyword been Religion in your quote below.
People follow a set of beliefs, which they concoct part from the
bible, part form other source.
They make up what suites themand call it this religion, that
religion, and do not follow the truth written in the bible.
Its like baking a cake, they add differnet ingredients to produce
something which suites their lifestyle, not what God teaches us to
do.
One needs to experience Christ, not religion. Thats the bottom line
How does one experience a 2000 year old myth?
One thing I have noticed is that you always refer to the old
testament, try looking a little into the new testament.
Been there, done that. It's not any better mythology.
Well for one, you will never experience it with that attitude. I too
was stubborn and refused to believe, said there was no God, until he
saved me from my destruction, bought about by my own desires.
Well, I guess I just wait for him to show himself to me.
For one, my wife is a miracle that happened in my life.
And my wife is a wonderful part of my life, but I fail to see how that's a
real miracle and some god was necessary?
Without God, this world would self-destruct, just look whats
happening in the world around you. People ignoring and believing
there is no God, following their won ways. You cannot tell me the
world is a better place than it was 20 years ago.
Yeah, we've only had wars & murders & rapes & slavery & so on for the
last 20 years haven't we? Of course, we didn't have PC's or the
internet or SUV's or GWB's imperial war back then
either....hmmm...maybe you're on to something here...
Was the world so brutal then? Where you around then to know? You are
speaking about history or myths you have read.
Just as you try to portray the bible to be a myth. A bit of subjective
reading there then?
Not near as much subjective reading as comes from those who believe such
fantasies.
What I am speaking about is what I have seen and experienced in the
last 20+ years. I can see that the world has become more Godless and
strayed from the truth.
What is the "truth"? And provide some real world, objective evidence that
it really is the "truth".
Classic example is in the States, they took God out of school, now
you have gun-toting youths, with no morale understanding, going
around killing innocent fellow students and teachers.
Yeah, they put "under god" in the plege of allegience and "in god we
trust"
on the dollar back in the mid-50's and look at what's happening now.
Those "gun-toting youths with no morale understanding, going around
killing innocent fellow students and teachers."
Well, you can say things, like 75% of the UK say they are Christians,
but do they follow the bible and the truth?
absolutely not. What is the point of making a declaration and
following the principles?
So you agree that your conjecture that taking god out of the schools has
lead to all these evils is just a bunch of BS. Good.
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political institution for the control of
people's thoughts, lives, and actions; based on
ancient myths and superstitions perpetrated through
generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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01 Oct 2003 08:30:29 PM |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:14:41 -0000, Woden <woden@charter.net>, Message
ID: <Xns940420E2AAE34wodennet@216.168.3.44> wrote in alt.atheism;
"private" <tp007g2217@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
news:w4hdb.348$Kh1.22@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk:
"Woden" <woden@charter.net> wrote in message
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"private" <tp007g2217@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
news:O3ddb.6248$f05.3244@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk:
Where could you possible come up with such a belief? Please
explain!!!
The bible says just that. Look in Isiah 45:7
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create
evil: I the LORD do all these things."
My translation of the bible differs somewhat from the part "and create
evil", it states "and create darkness"
This darkness....disaster suah as the darkness that plagued the
Egyptians
Now why should I have to worry about which translation is correct in order
to understand this god? Shouldn't an omnipotentent, omnscient, superbeing
that wants us to believe in him, be able to provide clear instructions in
whatever language people understand? Since this god can't (or at least
hasn't) provided such a document, then I see no reason to believe that he
is all powerful, all knowing and interested in my belief or my worship.
Especially when the 'tome of confession' called "The Bible" demonstrates
it isn't all-powerful or all-knowing. What is demonstrated is terminal
idiocy and cluelessness as well as malevolence and such perversions as
beastiality.
If you believe in God, then you must believe in Satan.
And if you don't believe in gods, then Satan is just another myth
like YHWH.
So why then are you reading and quoting from the bible?? There must be
some interest shown on your part?
Interest in understanding why fools like you think that the rest of us
should believe these fairy tales. And how to defend against further
efforts to incorporate these fairy tales into our government and laws.
Education would be a big help, but such would be detremental to the
superstition industry.
The keyword been Religion in your quote below.
People follow a set of beliefs, which they concoct part from the
bible, part form other source.
They make up what suites themand call it this religion, that
religion, and do not follow the truth written in the bible.
Its like baking a cake, they add differnet ingredients to produce
something which suites their lifestyle, not what God teaches us to
do.
One needs to experience Christ, not religion. Thats the bottom line
How does one experience a 2000 year old myth?
One thing I have noticed is that you always refer to the old
testament, try looking a little into the new testament.
Been there, done that. It's not any better mythology.
Both the OT and the NT are good examples of the GIGO (garbage in garbage
out) principle. Christianity is nothing more than items stolen from
other superstitions with the 'serial numbers' filed off and the names
and places changed.
Well for one, you will never experience it with that attitude. I too
was stubborn and refused to believe, said there was no God, until he
saved me from my destruction, bought about by my own desires.
Well, I guess I just wait for him to show himself to me.
You mean he's going to open his raincoat?
For one, my wife is a miracle that happened in my life.
And my wife is a wonderful part of my life, but I fail to see how that's a
real miracle and some god was necessary?
Such requires a mineascule(sp) threshold level to qualify for 'miracle.'
Without God, this world would self-destruct, just look whats
happening in the world around you. People ignoring and believing
there is no God, following their won ways. You cannot tell me the
world is a better place than it was 20 years ago.
Yeah, we've only had wars & murders & rapes & slavery & so on for the
last 20 years haven't we? Of course, we didn't have PC's or the
internet or SUV's or GWB's imperial war back then
either....hmmm...maybe you're on to something here...
Was the world so brutal then? Where you around then to know? You are
speaking about history or myths you have read.
Just as you try to portray the bible to be a myth. A bit of subjective
reading there then?
Not near as much subjective reading as comes from those who believe such
fantasies.
What I am speaking about is what I have seen and experienced in the
last 20+ years. I can see that the world has become more Godless and
strayed from the truth.
What is the "truth"? And provide some real world, objective evidence that
it really is the "truth".
The objective evidence indicates 'The Bible' and truth are strangers.
Classic example is in the States, they took God out of school, now
you have gun-toting youths, with no morale understanding, going
around killing innocent fellow students and teachers.
Yeah, they put "under god" in the plege of allegience and "in god we
trust"
on the dollar back in the mid-50's and look at what's happening now.
Those "gun-toting youths with no morale understanding, going around
killing innocent fellow students and teachers."
Well, you can say things, like 75% of the UK say they are Christians,
but do they follow the bible and the truth?
absolutely not. What is the point of making a declaration and
following the principles?
So you agree that your conjecture that taking god out of the schools has
lead to all these evils is just a bunch of BS. Good.
(chuckling)
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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27 Sep 2003 06:09:29 PM |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 15:22:35 +0100, "private"
<tp007g2217@blueyonder.co.uk> posted in alt.atheism:
"Woden" <woden@charter.net> wrote in message
news:Xns9403CD9CC32CEwodennet@216.168.3.44...
The bible says just that. Look in Isiah 45:7
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I
the LORD do all these things."
My translation of the bible differs somewhat from the part "and create
evil", it states "and create darkness"
This darkness....disaster suah as the darkness that plagued the Egyptians
Your translation leaves much to be desired. The word used is the same
word used for evil in other places.
If you believe in God, then you must believe in Satan.
And if you don't believe in gods, then Satan is just another myth like
YHWH.
So why then are you reading and quoting from the bible??
Because you made a claim that your bible shows to be false.
There must be some interest shown on your part?
Intelligent people aren't afraid to read the myths of others.
One thing I have noticed is that you always refer to the old testament
It's part of your religion. Jesus was a Jew whose ONLY bible was the
Old Testament.
try looking a little into the new testament.
The one that says that slavery is okay?
Well for one, you will never experience it with that attitude. I too was
stubborn and refused to believe, said there was no God, until he saved me
from my destruction, bought about by my own desires.
And stopped by your own desires. It's tough if you're so weak that
you need a belief in a god to stop self-destructive behavior, but
that's your problem, not proof that some god exists.
For one, my wife is a miracle that happened in my life.
It was physically impossible for her to be in your life? If not it's
not a miracle.
Without God, this world would self-destruct, just look whats happening
in the world around you. People ignoring and believing there is no
God, following their won ways. You cannot tell me the world is a
better place than it was 20 years ago.
Yeah, we've only had wars & murders & rapes & slavery & so on for the last
20 years haven't we? Of course, we didn't have PC's or the internet or
SUV's or GWB's imperial war back then either....hmmm...maybe you're on to
something here...
Was the world so brutal then? Where you around then to know?
Ever hear of "the Holocaust"? "The Rape of Nanking"?
You are speaking about history or myths you have read.
WWII wasn't a myth.
Just as you try to portray the bible to be a myth.
There's no objective evidence for any of the extraordinary claims in
the bible. There's tons (literally) of physical evidence of WWII.
What I am speaking about is what I have seen and experienced in the last 20+
years. I can see that the world has become more Godless and strayed from the
truth.
Aristotle saw the same thing happening - more than 2,000 years ago.
The bottom line is that you don't have the slightest shred of
objective evidence that your god (or any other god) exists
objectively.
--
"He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my
contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him, the
spinal cord would fully suffice."
- Albert Einstein
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28 Sep 2003 08:50:06 PM |
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"private" <tp007g2217@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
news:O3ddb.6248$f05.3244@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk:
Where could you possible come up with such a belief? Please explain!!!
If you believe in God, then you must believe in Satan.
Probably depends on which gods you believe in. Satan is an interesting god.
He was supposedly in a perfect place but rebelled. The theology doesn't
really explain why. If Satan rebelled then why not Jesus or Ghost. If they
rebelled they could team up with Satan or perhaps start up a third group.
For that matter why would human's be happy in heaven if satan wasn't? The
whole thing is so absurd that it's pretty obviously made up.
Rgds Llanzlan.
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| User: "stoney" |
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01 Oct 2003 08:40:55 PM |
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On 29 Sep 2003 13:50:06 +1200, Llanzlan Klazmon The 15th
<Llanzlan@Llurdiaxorb.net>, Message ID:
<Xns94058CB8B1822LlanzlanLlurdiaxorbn@203.97.37.6> wrote in alt.atheism;
"private" <tp007g2217@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
news:O3ddb.6248$f05.3244@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk:
Where could you possible come up with such a belief? Please explain!!!
If you believe in God, then you must believe in Satan.
Probably depends on which gods you believe in. Satan is an interesting god.
He was supposedly in a perfect place but rebelled.
Which indicates the lie about the place being perfect. Where there is
perfection there is stasis.
The theology doesn't
really explain why. If Satan rebelled then why not Jesus or Ghost. If they
rebelled they could team up with Satan or perhaps start up a third group.
For that matter why would human's be happy in heaven if satan wasn't? The
whole thing is so absurd that it's pretty obviously made up.
Made up? No. Saul/Paul wasn't that imaginative. The stuff was stolen
from myraid of other superstitions and modified.
Rgds Llanzlan.
<SNIP>
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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27 Sep 2003 01:31:14 PM |
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In article <O3ddb.6248$f05.3244@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>, private says...
Where could you possible come up with such a belief? Please explain!!!
If you believe in God, then you must believe in Satan.
Sorry, but you're wrong. I don't believe in either.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "private" |
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27 Sep 2003 01:43:50 PM |
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Again, that is the freedom God gives us, to make our own choices.
"Robibnikoff" <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in message
news:SHkdb.22185$cJ5.3074@www.newsranger.com...
In article <O3ddb.6248$f05.3244@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>, private
says...
Where could you possible come up with such a belief? Please explain!!!
If you believe in God, then you must believe in Satan.
Sorry, but you're wrong. I don't believe in either.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Billy Goat" |
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27 Sep 2003 09:48:41 PM |
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"private" <tp007g2217@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:<AVkdb.344$Fi2.16@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>...
Again, that is the freedom God gives us, to make our own choices.
Beliefs are not choices.
--Billy
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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27 Sep 2003 03:51:31 PM |
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In article <AVkdb.344$Fi2.16@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>, private says...
Again, that is the freedom God gives us, to make our own choices.
So, then you realize that I proved you were wrong when you made your original
statement, right?
"Robibnikoff" <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in message
news:SHkdb.22185$cJ5.3074@www.newsranger.com...
In article <O3ddb.6248$f05.3244@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>, private
says...
Where could you possible come up with such a belief? Please explain!!!
If you believe in God, then you must believe in Satan.
Sorry, but you're wrong. I don't believe in either.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "private" |
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27 Sep 2003 03:59:49 PM |
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Please enlighten me.....
So what is good in life then?
God is not responsible for any of mans demises. We all have choices we make,
and we can either accept to obey him or follow our own ways which ultimately
allows the devil to destroy us.
THE ANTICHRIST SPIRIT SEEMS TO SPEAK FREELY IN YOUR HATRED TEXT ON YOUR
WEBSITE. REPENT....................
"Robibnikoff" <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in message
news:nLmdb.22204$cJ5.3091@www.newsranger.com...
In article <AVkdb.344$Fi2.16@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>, private
says...
Again, that is the freedom God gives us, to make our own choices.
So, then you realize that I proved you were wrong when you made your
original
statement, right?
"Robibnikoff" <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in message
news:SHkdb.22185$cJ5.3074@www.newsranger.com...
In article <O3ddb.6248$f05.3244@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>, private
says...
Where could you possible come up with such a belief? Please explain!!!
If you believe in God, then you must believe in Satan.
Sorry, but you're wrong. I don't believe in either.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Sept. 26 (God Kills Men and Beasts) |
27 Sep 2003 08:55:10 PM |
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In article <qUmdb.555$tV2.166@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>, private says...
Please enlighten me.....
So what is good in life then?
Gracious, tons of stuff. My daughter's smile. The touch of my husband's hand
when he takes mine. A sunrise. The feel of my kitten's cold nose when it
touches my cheek early on a Sunday morning.....
God is not responsible for any of mans demises.
Goodness, I take it you've never read the bible then.
We all have choices we make,
and we can either accept to obey him or follow our own ways which ultimately
allows the devil to destroy us.
Devil? And the proof of its existence...........?
THE ANTICHRIST SPIRIT SEEMS TO SPEAK FREELY IN YOUR HATRED TEXT ON YOUR
WEBSITE. REPENT....................
Sounds like someone could use a Midol.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Sept. 26 (God Kills Men and Beasts) |
01 Oct 2003 08:38:04 PM |
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On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:55:10 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>,
Message ID: <2crdb.22227$cJ5.3124@www.newsranger.com> wrote in
alt.atheism;
In article <qUmdb.555$tV2.166@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>, private says...
Please enlighten me.....
So what is good in life then?
Gracious, tons of stuff. My daughter's smile. The touch of my husband's hand
when he takes mine. A sunrise. The feel of my kitten's cold nose when it
touches my cheek early on a Sunday morning.....
God is not responsible for any of mans demises.
Goodness, I take it you've never read the bible then.
"We should always be disposed to believe that that which
appears to us to be white is really black, if the
hierarchy of the church so decides."
- St. Ignatius Loyola
- Exercita spiritualia / 1541
We all have choices we make,
and we can either accept to obey him or follow our own ways which ultimately
allows the devil to destroy us.
Devil? And the proof of its existence...........?
What I find somewhat amusing is the 'devil' tells the truth and shows
'god' for the liar he is and yet the opposite position is adopted by
xtians. Mr. Loyola (the butcher) understated things.
THE ANTICHRIST SPIRIT SEEMS TO SPEAK FREELY IN YOUR HATRED TEXT ON YOUR
WEBSITE. REPENT....................
Sounds like someone could use a Midol.
Midol? More like anti-psychotic medications.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Sept. 26 (God Kills Men and Beasts) |
27 Sep 2003 08:11:06 PM |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:59:49 +0100, "private"
<tp007g2217@blueyonder.co.uk> posted in alt.atheism:
Please enlighten me.....
So what is good in life then?
Everything. We don't need a god to make ice cream taste good.
God is not responsible for any of mans demises.
Of course not. Myths aren't really "responsible" for anything.
THE ANTICHRIST SPIRIT SEEMS TO SPEAK FREELY IN YOUR HATRED TEXT ON YOUR
WEBSITE. REPENT....................
Robin has a website? You've been holding out on me, witch.
--
"If anyone comes to me, and does not hate his father, mother, wife, brothers, and sisters and even himself, he cannot be my disciple."
Luke 14:26
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Evil Bible Quote of the Day for Sept. 26 (God Kills Men and Beasts) |
27 Sep 2003 08:57:22 PM |
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In article <e6dcnv02clv6gd5edm9gaf8cb7ua050avr@Pern.rk>, Al Klein says...
On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 21:59:49 +0100, "private"
<tp007g2217@blueyonder.co.uk> posted in alt.atheism:
Please enlighten me.....
So what is good in life then?
Everything. We don't need a god to make ice cream taste good.
God is not responsible for any of mans demises.
Of course not. Myths aren't really "responsible" for anything.
THE ANTICHRIST SPIRIT SEEMS TO SPEAK FREELY IN YOUR HATRED TEXT ON YOUR
WEBSITE. REPENT....................
Robin has a website? You've been holding out on me, witch.
LOL, I most certainly do NOT!
Not that it hasn't always been a dream of mine <sigh> ;D
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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27 Sep 2003 11:01:18 PM |
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On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 01:57:22 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
posted in alt.atheism:
Robin has a website? You've been holding out on me, witch.
LOL, I most certainly do NOT!
Not that it hasn't always been a dream of mine <sigh> ;D
Pssst. Could I interest you in a web site? Cheap?
--
"To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and it remains
premature today."
- Isaac Asimov
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| User: "David" |
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27 Sep 2003 08:17:58 PM |
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private wrote:
Please enlighten me.....
We're trying to enlighten you, but you won't listen.
So what is good in life then?
Why do you need to invent a god to find "good" in life?
--
David V.
Yosemite Llama Ranch
dave@TheLlamaRanch.com
http://www.TheLlamaRanch.com
UDP for WebTV
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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27 Sep 2003 09:11:12 PM |
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In article <3f7636c1@news.sti.net>, David says...
private wrote:
Please enlighten me.....
We're trying to enlighten you, but you won't listen.
So what is good in life then?
Why do you need to invent a god to find "good" in life?
See, I've NEVER understood that. I have a full life with a wonderful, loving
husband, beautiful daughter, two lovely (and highly amusing) felines, great
friends and family - not to mention my art and other outside interests. What's
not to like? :)
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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27 Sep 2003 10:59:39 PM |
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On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 02:11:12 GMT, Robibnikoff <nospam@newsranger.com>
posted in alt.atheism:
See, I've NEVER understood that. I have a full life with a wonderful, loving
husband, beautiful daughter, two lovely (and highly amusing) felines, great
friends and family - not to mention my art and other outside interests. What's
not to like? :)
Your SILs?
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"He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my
contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him, the
spinal cord would fully suffice."
- Albert Einstein
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| User: "David" |
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27 Sep 2003 10:50:17 PM |
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Robibnikoff wrote:
In article <3f7636c1@news.sti.net>, David says...
private wrote:
Please enlighten me.....
We're trying to enlighten you, but you won't listen.
So what is good in life then?
Why do you need to invent a god to find "good" in life?
See, I've NEVER understood that. I have a full life with
a wonderful, loving husband, beautiful daughter, two
lovely (and highly amusing) felines...
Cats can be amusing - except for when they bring their LIVE
toys in the house.
great friends and family - not to mention my art and
other outside interests. What's not to like? :)
Life is great! I have that cat and 5 llamas. I put some
packs on the llamas and go hiking in the most beautiful park
in the world! If you have to invent a god to get some good
out of life, then you're not LIVING life.
--
David V.
Yosemite Llama Ranch
dave@TheLlamaRanch.com
http://www.TheLlamaRanch.com
UDP for WebTV
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01 Oct 2003 08:34:42 PM |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:17:58 -0700, David <dave@thellamaranch.com>,
Message ID: <3f7636c1@news.sti.net> wrote in alt.atheism;
private wrote:
Please enlighten me.....
We're trying to enlighten you, but you won't listen.
So what is good in life then?
Why do you need to invent a god to find "good" in life?
Slaves fear making mistakes.
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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27 Sep 2003 08:09:44 PM |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:43:50 +0100, "private"
<tp007g2217@blueyonder.co.uk> posted in alt.atheism:
Again, that is the freedom God gives us, to make our own choices.
It's the freedom we have, no god needed.
--
"I can't activate two neurons simultaneously, and I vote"
- The theistic majority
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| User: "stoney" |
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01 Oct 2003 08:33:38 PM |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 19:43:50 +0100, "private"
<tp007g2217@blueyonder.co.uk>, Message ID:
<AVkdb.344$Fi2.16@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in alt.atheism;
Again, that is the freedom God gives us, to make our own choices.
You unrepentantly bear false witness.
"Robibnikoff" <nospam@newsranger.com> wrote in message
news:SHkdb.22185$cJ5.3074@www.newsranger.com...
In article <O3ddb.6248$f05.3244@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>, private
says...
Where could you possible come up with such a belief? Please explain!!!
If you believe in God, then you must believe in Satan.
Sorry, but you're wrong. I don't believe in either.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo & EAC Spellcaster
#1557
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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| User: "David" |
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27 Sep 2003 08:16:55 PM |
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private wrote:
Again, that is the freedom God gives us, to make our own
choices.
How can a god that doesn't exist give anyone anything?
--
David V.
Yosemite Llama Ranch
dave@TheLlamaRanch.com
http://www.TheLlamaRanch.com
UDP for WebTV
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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27 Sep 2003 10:52:54 PM |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 18:16:55 -0700, David <dave@thellamaranch.com>
posted in alt.atheism:
private wrote:
Again, that is the freedom God gives us, to make our own
choices.
How can a god that doesn't exist give anyone anything?
That's what's so great about the Christian god. What other god do you
know that can give us things even though he doesn't exist? :)
--
"Every sensible man, every honest man, must hold the christian sect in horror. 'But what
shall we substitute in its place?' you say. What? A ferocious animal has sucked the
blood of my relatives. I tell you to rid yourselves of this beast and you ask me what
you shall put in its place?" - Voltaire
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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27 Sep 2003 06:00:31 PM |
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On Sat, 27 Sep 2003 10:48:55 +0100, "private"
<tp007g2217@blueyonder.co.uk> posted in alt.atheism:
"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:ca4anv402q94ct4e2pfo89ju959h1le4sn@Pern.rk...
On Fri, 26 Sep 2003 19:30:23 +0100, "private"
<tp007g2217@blueyonder.co.uk> posted in alt.atheism:
God is not responsible for any of mans demises.
No? He's responsible for evil. Without it man would have a much
better life.
Where could you possible come up with such a belief?
That your god is responsible for evil? He says so in your bible.
If you believe in God, then you must believe in Satan.
That's "if one believes in the Judeo/Christian god, one must believe
in Satan". Since I don't believe in either one, I'm not being
inconsistent.
People follow a set of beliefs, which they concoct part from the bible, part
form other source.
They make up what suites themand call it this religion, that religion, and
do not follow the truth written in the bible.
Just as you do. It's your bible that says that your god claims to be
responsible for evil.
One needs to experience Christ, not religion.
No, what one NEEDS is to not "experience" either one.
Without God, this world would self-destruct
Since there is no god, and the world's still here, there's something
wrong with your premise.
just look whats happening in the world around you. People ignoring and believing there is no God,
following their won ways. You cannot tell me the world is a better place
than it was 20 years ago.
Nor is it a worse place than it's been for thousands of years. Plato
made the same complaint you're making.
Classic example is in the States, they took God out of school
Typical Christian lie. And, in this case, from someone who has no
idea what he's talking about. Students have NEVER been prohibited
from praying in schools.
now you have gun-toting youths, with no morale understanding, going around killing
innocent fellow students and teachers.
The reason for which has nothing to do with religion. ALL of the kids
who shot people in schools were Christians. One such event happened
in a Christian (not a public) school, and you can't have more religion
in a school than you have in a Christian school. There's NEVER been
that much religion in the public schools.
--
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus (2nd century C.E.)
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