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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "Roy Jose Lorr"
Date: 27 Oct 2006 10:28:23 AM
Object: Evolution Frauds--2
http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=2128&enterthread=y
Ontogeny Recapitulates Phylogeny? Haekel's faked embryonic
drawings The theory of embryonic recapitulation asserts that
the human fetus goes through various stages of its
evolutionary history as it develops. Ernst Haeckel proposed
this theory in the late 1860's, promoting Darwin's theory of
evolution in Germany. He made detailed drawings of the
embryonic development of eight different embryos in three
stages of development, to bolster his claim. His work was
hailed as a great development in the understanding of human
evolution. A few years later his drawings were shown to have
been fabricated, and the data manufactured. He blamed the
artist for the discrepancies, without admitting that he was
the artist. (source: Russell Grigg, "Fraud Rediscovered",
Creation, Vol. 20, No. 2, pp.49-51) Haeckel' Forgeries
Creationary Links Another Evolution Fraud Exposed Evolution
Fraud in Current Biology Textbooks - Haeckel's Ontongeny
Haeckel's distortions did not help Darwin by Stephen Jay
Gould Haeckel's Fake Drawings - Pictures Please Urge
Publishers to Fix Textbooks by Texans for Better Science
Education
.

User: "Greywolf"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 27 Oct 2006 01:21:37 PM
"Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:DfGdnVN22v9fuN_YnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@comcast.com...



http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=2128&enterthread=y

Ontogeny Recapitulates Phylogeny? Haekel's faked embryonic drawings The
theory of embryonic recapitulation asserts that the human fetus goes
through various stages of its evolutionary history as it develops. Ernst
Haeckel proposed this theory in the late 1860's, promoting Darwin's theory
of evolution in Germany. He made detailed drawings of the embryonic
development of eight different embryos in three stages of development, to
bolster his claim. His work was hailed as a great development in the
understanding of human evolution. A few years later his drawings were
shown to have been fabricated, and the data manufactured. He blamed the
artist for the discrepancies, without admitting that he was the artist.
(source: Russell Grigg, "Fraud Rediscovered", Creation, Vol. 20, No. 2,
pp.49-51) Haeckel' Forgeries Creationary Links Another Evolution Fraud
Exposed Evolution Fraud in Current Biology Textbooks - Haeckel's Ontongeny
Haeckel's distortions did not help Darwin by Stephen Jay Gould Haeckel's
Fake Drawings - Pictures Please Urge Publishers to Fix Textbooks by Texans
for Better Science Education

Hmmm. UFO frauds ... reported 'ghost' sightings ... uh ... 'Bigfoot'
sightings ... 'Loch Ness 'monster' sightings ... burnt toast images of
Jesus/God ... 'Virgin' Mary apparitions ... phony-baloney 'real' Gospel
frauds ... oh, here it is ... Nude images of Mary Magdalene (gotta set
*those* aside) ... ahhh ... here it is ... False Theist Claims; no.
85,000,000,555,085! Oh shoot! I'm only half-way through the crap. Dang! When
will it ever end?
Greywolf
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User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 27 Oct 2006 11:43:35 PM
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 13:21:37 -0500, "Greywolf" <greywolf@cybrzn.com>
wrote:
- Refer: <12k4ji6gac6df56@corp.supernews.com>


"Roy Jose Lorr" <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:DfGdnVN22v9fuN_YnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@comcast.com...



http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=2128&enterthread=y

Ontogeny Recapitulates Phylogeny? Haekel's faked embryonic drawings The
theory of embryonic recapitulation asserts that the human fetus goes
through various stages of its evolutionary history as it develops. Ernst
Haeckel proposed this theory in the late 1860's, promoting Darwin's theory
of evolution in Germany. He made detailed drawings of the embryonic
development of eight different embryos in three stages of development, to
bolster his claim. His work was hailed as a great development in the
understanding of human evolution. A few years later his drawings were
shown to have been fabricated, and the data manufactured. He blamed the
artist for the discrepancies, without admitting that he was the artist.
(source: Russell Grigg, "Fraud Rediscovered", Creation, Vol. 20, No. 2,
pp.49-51) Haeckel' Forgeries Creationary Links Another Evolution Fraud
Exposed Evolution Fraud in Current Biology Textbooks - Haeckel's Ontongeny
Haeckel's distortions did not help Darwin by Stephen Jay Gould Haeckel's
Fake Drawings - Pictures Please Urge Publishers to Fix Textbooks by Texans
for Better Science Education


Hmmm. UFO frauds ... reported 'ghost' sightings ... uh ... 'Bigfoot'
sightings ... 'Loch Ness 'monster' sightings ... burnt toast images of
Jesus/God ... 'Virgin' Mary apparitions ... phony-baloney 'real' Gospel
frauds ... oh, here it is ... Nude images of Mary Magdalene (gotta set
*those* aside) ... ahhh ... here it is ... False Theist Claims; no.
85,000,000,555,085! Oh shoot! I'm only half-way through the crap. Dang! When
will it ever end?

When the human race goes exitinct...
.


User: "Don Kresch"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 27 Oct 2006 01:08:16 PM
In alt.atheism On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:28:23 -0700, Roy Jose Lorr
<Kenthz@comcast.net> let us all know that:
Poor Roy-boy.
http://www.kent-hovind.com/
For a real good one: http://www.kent-hovind.com/lies/eye.htm
Excerpt:
A common example of quote mining exhibited by Young Earth
Creationists is a comment written by Charles Darwin in On the Origin
of Species; “To suppose that the eye […..] could have been formed by
natural selection seems, I freely confess, absurd.” However, users
of this quote fail to mention this is a rhetorical statement and
Darwin goes on to explain his case for the evolution of eyes. See
here for more detailed explanation.

Following are three examples of Kent Hovind’s use of the “eye” quote.
Even Charles Darwin said in his book right here on page 217, Charlie
said, “To suppose that the eye could have been formed by natural
selection seems, I freely confess, absurd.” Charlie very much was
confused about the human eyeball because it is so complex. He said,
“How could this thing have evolved by chance?” Good question Charlie!
How can blind chance make a seeing eye? Explain that to me please!
[1]
We can see above that Hovind is aware of the page the quote comes
from, implying he has read the quote in context.
Darwin himself admitted the absurdity of believing that something as
complex as the eye could have formed by natural selection. [2]
It is very clear what Hovind intended by that statement. In the early
1990's Hovind claimed;
Charles Darwin himself said the thing that caused him to shudder was
the human eye. He said, "I can see no way it could evolve bit by
bit." [4]
The ‘eye’ misquote is both so blatant and pervasive that Answers in
Genesis included it as an example of Arguments We Think Creationists
Should NOT Use. [Original emphasis]
When confronted by Answers in Genesis’ list of Arguments We Think
Creationists Should NOT Use, Hovind wrote;
Darwin did indeed say: “To suppose that the eye . . . could have been
formed by natural selection, seems, I freely confess, absurd in the
highest degree.” […..] He went on to explain that he believed it must
have happened anyway and even made feeble attempts to invent a way it
“might have” happened but he did make the statement above. [3]
We now have confirmation that Hovind is fully aware of the context of
the quote and knowingly uses it out of context.
---
aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
.

User: "Brian E. Clark"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 27 Oct 2006 03:04:41 PM
In article <DfGdnVN22v9fuN_YnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@comcast.com>, Roy
Jose Lorr said...

Ontogeny Recapitulates Phylogeny? Haekel's faked embryonic
drawings

Ask your computer for the current date. Note that the year does
not begin with the numbers "18xx". Ponder your error.
--
-----------
Brian E. Clark
.

User: "Pip R. Lagenta"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 27 Oct 2006 01:12:17 PM
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 08:28:23 -0700, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net>
wrote:

http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=2128&enterthread=y

Ontogeny Recapitulates Phylogeny? Haekel's faked embryonic

[snip]
Jeez! Guy! How easy is this:
<http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB701.html>
<http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CB/CB701_1.html>
Crack a book, why don't ya?


--
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-- Pip R. Lagenta
President for Life
International Organization Of People Named Pip R. Lagenta
(If your name is Pip R. Lagenta, ask about our dues!)
<http://home.comcast.net/~galentripp/pip.html>
(For Email: I'm at home, not work.)
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User: "Uncle Vic"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 27 Oct 2006 04:03:29 PM
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Roy Jose Lorr
(Kenthz@comcast.net) made the light shine upon us with this:
<snip>
Denial of reality is a good thing.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Plonked by Kadaitcha Man
.

User: "Lee Oswald Ving"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 27 Oct 2006 10:39:25 AM
Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote in
news:DfGdnVN22v9fuN_YnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@comcast.com:

Ontogeny Recapitulates Phylogeny? Haekel's faked embryonic

"Exaggerated" is the word you're looking for, Lorr.
While we're on the subject of fraud, why is it that it's science and
*never* Creationists that catch the frauds and errors, even among
Creationists?
Why are Creationists so incompetent?
And why are Creationist frauds such as yourself screaming about something
they were unable to expose themselves, decades after science corrected it?
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 27 Oct 2006 02:18:02 PM
Lee Oswald Ving wrote:

Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote in
news:DfGdnVN22v9fuN_YnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@comcast.com:

Ontogeny Recapitulates Phylogeny? Haekel's faked embryonic


"Exaggerated" is the word you're looking for, Lorr.

While we're on the subject of fraud, why is it that it's science and
*never* Creationists that catch the frauds and errors, even among
Creationists?

Why are Creationists so incompetent?

And why are Creationist frauds such as yourself screaming about something
they were unable to expose themselves, decades after science corrected it?

Test-tube envy.
Chris
.


User: "Lucifer"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 27 Oct 2006 10:53:08 AM
Roy Jose Lorr wrote:
<snip>
And how long ago was that debunked, and by scientists no less, not
cretinists. I'd like something in the last century please.
Now *****
--
Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and
General Purpose Igor
The Anti-Theist
"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"
.
User: "John Wilkins"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 28 Oct 2006 07:45:24 PM
Lucifer <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote:

Roy Jose Lorr wrote:

<snip>

And how long ago was that debunked, and by scientists no less, not
cretinists. I'd like something in the last century please.

Now *****

How shall we *****, oh Lord?
--
John S. Wilkins, Postdoctoral Research Fellow, Biohumanities Project
University of Queensland - Blog: scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoughts
"He used... sarcasm. He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor,
bathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire. He was vicious."
.
User: "Walter Bushell"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 28 Oct 2006 10:15:13 PM
In article <1hnytrp.10v29xyn3qaviN%
>,
(John Wilkins) wrote:

Lucifer <wyrdology@hotmail.com> wrote:

Roy Jose Lorr wrote:

<snip>

And how long ago was that debunked, and by scientists no less, not
cretinists. I'd like something in the last century please.

Now *****


How shall we *****, oh Lord?

Probably doggy style, works with most critters that *****.
--
Divided we stand!
.


User: "Nashton"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 28 Oct 2006 06:05:57 AM
Lucifer wrote:

Roy Jose Lorr wrote:

<snip>

And how long ago was that debunked, and by scientists no less, not
cretinists. I'd like something in the last century please.

Now *****

--

Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and
General Purpose Igor

The Anti-Theist

"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"

Oh goody. As if the atheist riffraff wwasn't enough, now we've got
satanists.
--
Nicola
.
User: "Tiktaalik"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 28 Oct 2006 06:35:41 PM
Nashtyone babbled:

Lucifer wrote:

Roy Jose Lorr wrote:

<snip>

And how long ago was that debunked, and by scientists no less, not
cretinists. I'd like something in the last century please.

Now *****

--

Lucifer the Unsubtle, EAC Librarian of Dark Tomes of Excessive Evil and
General Purpose Igor

The Anti-Theist

"Don't worry, I won't bite.......hard"


Oh goody. As if the atheist riffraff wwasn't enough, now we've got
satanists.

So we're back to "Nicola" are we? What happened did you get a new
winter wardrobe? And where are your moronic excuses for sigs?


--

Nicola

Cornelius (not Cornelia).
"I am in favour of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the
way of a whole human being." (Abraham Lincoln).
.



User: "Bill Hudson"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 27 Oct 2006 10:43:44 AM
Roy Jose Lorr wrote:



http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=2128&enterthread=y


Ontogeny Recapitulates Phylogeny? Haekel's faked embryonic drawings The
theory of embryonic recapitulation asserts that the human fetus goes
through various stages of its evolutionary history as it develops. Ernst
Haeckel proposed this theory in the late 1860's, promoting Darwin's
theory of evolution in Germany. He made detailed drawings of the
embryonic development of eight different embryos in three stages of
development, to bolster his claim. His work was hailed as a great
development in the understanding of human evolution. A few years later
his drawings were shown to have been fabricated, and the data
manufactured. He blamed the artist for the discrepancies, without
admitting that he was the artist. (source: Russell Grigg, "Fraud
Rediscovered", Creation, Vol. 20, No. 2, pp.49-51) Haeckel' Forgeries
Creationary Links Another Evolution Fraud Exposed Evolution Fraud in
Current Biology Textbooks - Haeckel's Ontongeny Haeckel's distortions
did not help Darwin by Stephen Jay Gould Haeckel's Fake Drawings -
Pictures Please Urge Publishers to Fix Textbooks by Texans for Better
Science Education

Dude... learn to use the 'ENTER' key once in a while. Line breaks are
your friend. So are periods, commas and other punctuation marks.
--
Bill Hudson
.
User: "Geoff"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 27 Oct 2006 12:56:21 PM
"Bill Hudson" <oldgeek61-951@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:eht9fp0r67@news3.newsguy.com...

Dude... learn to use the 'ENTER' key once in a while. Line breaks are
your friend. So are periods, commas and other punctuation marks.

The only thing he uses is CNTL-v.
.

User: "Robert Carnegie"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 28 Oct 2006 07:49:27 AM
Bill Hudson wrote:

Dude... learn to use the 'ENTER' key once in a while. Line breaks are
your friend. So are periods, commas and other punctuation marks.

As someone else pointed out, he needs to use a browser and/or a news
editor that preserves line breaks in copy-and-pasted text. And get a
clue and get a life.
.
User: "Michael Gray"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 28 Oct 2006 09:30:08 AM
On 28 Oct 2006 05:49:27 -0700, "Robert Carnegie"
<rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
- Refer: <1162039767.741970.36980@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>

Bill Hudson wrote:

Dude... learn to use the 'ENTER' key once in a while. Line breaks are
your friend. So are periods, commas and other punctuation marks.


As someone else pointed out, he needs to use a browser and/or a news
editor that preserves line breaks in copy-and-pasted text. And get a
clue and get a life.

Not in that order, one hopes.
.

User: "Tom McDonald"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 28 Oct 2006 10:05:35 AM
Robert Carnegie wrote:

Bill Hudson wrote:

Dude... learn to use the 'ENTER' key once in a while. Line breaks are
your friend. So are periods, commas and other punctuation marks.


As someone else pointed out, he needs to use a browser and/or a news
editor that preserves line breaks in copy-and-pasted text.

That wouldn't solve the problem in this case. The original forum post
is as constipated as Roy faithfully preserves it.

And get a
clue and get a life.

Life is good.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 28 Oct 2006 05:22:59 PM
Tom McDonald wrote:

Robert Carnegie wrote:

Bill Hudson wrote:

Dude... learn to use the 'ENTER' key once in a while. Line breaks are
your friend. So are periods, commas and other punctuation marks.


As someone else pointed out, he needs to use a browser and/or a news
editor that preserves line breaks in copy-and-pasted text.


That wouldn't solve the problem in this case. The original forum post
is as constipated as Roy faithfully preserves it.

If that's the "original" forum post. It could have been copied from
somewhere else again.
In that case the lesson is to find the original and best source when
you're copying and not to use an inferior debased duplicate.
Case in point: the world has been mildly amused to hear, I think, that
on average an Australian singing while showering takes nine minutes
extra. This appears to arise from Australia's Sunday Telegraph
newspaper, reporting a press release from Energy Australia, but I went
in to the company site and checked it (JavaScript, ugh) and... strike
out the word "extra". Nine minutes with accompaniment, seven and a
half without. It's a pity, we could have had John Wilkins perform us a
medley, but I think he only has time for one verse and chorus of
"Waltzing Matilda".
The next generation of the same report has a transposon, of the time
(already misstated) taken to ventilate the glottic chink or to
exfoliate the body. I'm vaguely intrigued by the time take to "wash
body" versus "wash body only". I think they meant torso.
.




User: "Nashton"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 28 Oct 2006 06:04:24 AM
Roy Jose Lorr wrote:



http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=2128&enterthread=y


Ontogeny Recapitulates Phylogeny? Haekel's faked embryonic drawings The
theory of embryonic recapitulation asserts that the human fetus goes
through various stages of its evolutionary history as it develops. Ernst
Haeckel proposed this theory in the late 1860's, promoting Darwin's
theory of evolution in Germany. He made detailed drawings of the
embryonic development of eight different embryos in three stages of
development, to bolster his claim. His work was hailed as a great
development in the understanding of human evolution. A few years later
his drawings were shown to have been fabricated, and the data
manufactured. He blamed the artist for the discrepancies, without
admitting that he was the artist. (source: Russell Grigg, "Fraud
Rediscovered", Creation, Vol. 20, No. 2, pp.49-51) Haeckel' Forgeries
Creationary Links Another Evolution Fraud Exposed Evolution Fraud in
Current Biology Textbooks - Haeckel's Ontongeny Haeckel's distortions
did not help Darwin by Stephen Jay Gould Haeckel's Fake Drawings -
Pictures Please Urge Publishers to Fix Textbooks by Texans for Better
Science Education

Stay tuned for the usual: "you're exaggerating", "science corrects
itself", "you're a pathetic little liar", "you're anti-science" and the
list goes on.
And thanks for sharing the link.
--
Nicola
.
User: "Richard Forrest"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 28 Oct 2006 06:54:46 AM
Nashton wrote:

Roy Jose Lorr wrote:



http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=2128&enterthread=y


Ontogeny Recapitulates Phylogeny? Haekel's faked embryonic drawings The
theory of embryonic recapitulation asserts that the human fetus goes
through various stages of its evolutionary history as it develops. Ernst
Haeckel proposed this theory in the late 1860's, promoting Darwin's
theory of evolution in Germany. He made detailed drawings of the
embryonic development of eight different embryos in three stages of
development, to bolster his claim. His work was hailed as a great
development in the understanding of human evolution. A few years later
his drawings were shown to have been fabricated, and the data
manufactured. He blamed the artist for the discrepancies, without
admitting that he was the artist. (source: Russell Grigg, "Fraud
Rediscovered", Creation, Vol. 20, No. 2, pp.49-51) Haeckel' Forgeries
Creationary Links Another Evolution Fraud Exposed Evolution Fraud in
Current Biology Textbooks - Haeckel's Ontongeny Haeckel's distortions
did not help Darwin by Stephen Jay Gould Haeckel's Fake Drawings -
Pictures Please Urge Publishers to Fix Textbooks by Texans for Better
Science Education


Stay tuned for the usual: "you're exaggerating", "science corrects
itself", "you're a pathetic little liar", "you're anti-science" and the
list goes on.

And thanks for sharing the link.

--

Nicola

Actually, he is a pathetic little liar. His postings demonstrate that
very clearly.
He is a liar in that he denies that others have posted information when
it can be checked that they have.
He is pathetic in that his reponses degenerate into the endless
repetition of silly on-liners when pressed.
If you disagree with this, perhaps you could point out anywhere on any
posting on any thread to which he has contributed something of any
substance.
RF
.

User: "Turner"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 28 Oct 2006 10:47:01 AM
Nashton wrote:

Roy Jose Lorr wrote:



http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=2128&enterthread=y


Ontogeny Recapitulates Phylogeny? Haekel's faked embryonic drawings The
theory of embryonic recapitulation asserts that the human fetus goes
through various stages of its evolutionary history as it develops. Ernst
Haeckel proposed this theory in the late 1860's, promoting Darwin's
theory of evolution in Germany. He made detailed drawings of the
embryonic development of eight different embryos in three stages of
development, to bolster his claim. His work was hailed as a great
development in the understanding of human evolution. A few years later
his drawings were shown to have been fabricated, and the data
manufactured. He blamed the artist for the discrepancies, without
admitting that he was the artist. (source: Russell Grigg, "Fraud
Rediscovered", Creation, Vol. 20, No. 2, pp.49-51) Haeckel' Forgeries
Creationary Links Another Evolution Fraud Exposed Evolution Fraud in
Current Biology Textbooks - Haeckel's Ontongeny Haeckel's distortions
did not help Darwin by Stephen Jay Gould Haeckel's Fake Drawings -
Pictures Please Urge Publishers to Fix Textbooks by Texans for Better
Science Education


Stay tuned for the usual: "you're exaggerating", "science corrects
itself", "you're a pathetic little liar", "you're anti-science" and the
list goes on.

And thanks for sharing the link.
--

Nicola

*Clears throat*
You're exaggerating.
Science corrects itself.
You're a pathetic little liar.
You're anti-science.
.

User: ""

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 30 Oct 2006 07:59:25 AM
Nashton wrote:

Roy Jose Lorr wrote:



http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=2128&enterthread=y


Ontogeny Recapitulates Phylogeny? Haekel's faked embryonic drawings The
theory of embryonic recapitulation asserts that the human fetus goes
through various stages of its evolutionary history as it develops. Ernst
Haeckel proposed this theory in the late 1860's, promoting Darwin's
theory of evolution in Germany. He made detailed drawings of the
embryonic development of eight different embryos in three stages of
development, to bolster his claim. His work was hailed as a great
development in the understanding of human evolution. A few years later
his drawings were shown to have been fabricated, and the data
manufactured. He blamed the artist for the discrepancies, without
admitting that he was the artist. (source: Russell Grigg, "Fraud
Rediscovered", Creation, Vol. 20, No. 2, pp.49-51) Haeckel' Forgeries
Creationary Links Another Evolution Fraud Exposed Evolution Fraud in
Current Biology Textbooks - Haeckel's Ontongeny Haeckel's distortions
did not help Darwin by Stephen Jay Gould Haeckel's Fake Drawings -
Pictures Please Urge Publishers to Fix Textbooks by Texans for Better
Science Education

Very old "news." Ho hum.


Stay tuned for the usual: "you're exaggerating", "science corrects
itself", "you're a pathetic little liar", "you're anti-science" and the
list goes on.

And thanks for sharing the link.

What a suck-up.

--

Nicola

Eric Root
.
User: "Ghod"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 30 Oct 2006 10:17:40 AM
<eroot@swva.net> wrote in message
news:1162216765.195267.189910@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...

Nashton wrote:

Roy Jose Lorr wrote:

[snip]

Ontogeny Recapitulates Phylogeny? Haekel's faked embryonic

drawings The
[snip]

Very old "news." Ho hum.

[snip]

And thanks for sharing the link.


What a suck-up.

Really, more of a *****-up.....

Nicola


Eric Root

Any relation to Enoch Root?
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 30 Oct 2006 03:46:15 PM
Ghod wrote:

<eroot@swva.net> wrote in message
news:1162216765.195267.189910@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...

Nashton wrote:

Roy Jose Lorr wrote:

[snip]

Ontogeny Recapitulates Phylogeny? Haekel's faked embryonic

drawings The
[snip]

Very old "news." Ho hum.

[snip]

And thanks for sharing the link.


What a suck-up.


Really, more of a *****-up.....

Nicola


Eric Root


Any relation to Enoch Root?

Not that I know of.
Eric Root
.



User: "Turner"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 28 Oct 2006 10:47:21 AM
Nashton wrote:

Stay tuned for the usual: "you're exaggerating", "science corrects
itself", "you're a pathetic little liar", "you're anti-science" and the
list goes on.

And thanks for sharing the link.
--

Nicola

*Clears throat*
You're exaggerating.
Science corrects itself.
You're a pathetic little liar.
You're anti-science.
.

User: "Tiktaalik"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 28 Oct 2006 07:01:24 PM
Nashytone wailed:

Roy Jose Lorr wrote:



http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=2128&enterthread=y


Ontogeny Recapitulates Phylogeny? Haekel's faked embryonic drawings The
theory of embryonic recapitulation asserts that the human fetus goes
through various stages of its evolutionary history as it develops. Ernst
Haeckel proposed this theory in the late 1860's, promoting Darwin's
theory of evolution in Germany. He made detailed drawings of the
embryonic development of eight different embryos in three stages of
development, to bolster his claim. His work was hailed as a great
development in the understanding of human evolution. A few years later
his drawings were shown to have been fabricated, and the data
manufactured. He blamed the artist for the discrepancies, without
admitting that he was the artist. (source: Russell Grigg, "Fraud
Rediscovered", Creation, Vol. 20, No. 2, pp.49-51) Haeckel' Forgeries
Creationary Links Another Evolution Fraud Exposed Evolution Fraud in
Current Biology Textbooks - Haeckel's Ontongeny Haeckel's distortions
did not help Darwin by Stephen Jay Gould Haeckel's Fake Drawings -
Pictures Please Urge Publishers to Fix Textbooks by Texans for Better
Science Education


Stay tuned for the usual: "you're exaggerating", "science corrects
itself", "you're a pathetic little liar", "you're anti-science" and the
list goes on.

Yes the truth hurts doesn't it?

And thanks for sharing the link.

Like does attract like.

--

Nicola

Cornelius.
"I am in favour of animal rights as well as human rights. That is the
way of a whole human being." (Abraham Lincoln).
.


User: ""

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 27 Oct 2006 01:40:36 PM
Roy Jose Lorr wrote:

http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=2128&enterthread=y

Ontogeny Recapitulates Phylogeny? Haekel's faked embryonic
drawings The theory of embryonic recapitulation asserts that
the human fetus goes through various stages of its
evolutionary history as it develops. Ernst Haeckel proposed
this theory in the late 1860's, promoting Darwin's theory of
evolution in Germany. He made detailed drawings of the
embryonic development of eight different embryos in three
stages of development, to bolster his claim. His work was
hailed as a great development in the understanding of human
evolution. A few years later his drawings were shown to have
been fabricated, and the data manufactured. He blamed the
artist for the discrepancies, without admitting that he was
the artist.

This is a new twist. I haven't checked out your claims but I've never
read anywhere, up till now, the supposed fact that he blamed it on the
artist, but not revealing that he was the artist. This makes the
situation, if actual, worse for evolutionists DJT and et. al. Let's
wait and see.
JM
(source: Russell Grigg, "Fraud Rediscovered",

Creation, Vol. 20, No. 2, pp.49-51) Haeckel' Forgeries
Creationary Links Another Evolution Fraud Exposed Evolution
Fraud in Current Biology Textbooks - Haeckel's Ontongeny
Haeckel's distortions did not help Darwin by Stephen Jay
Gould Haeckel's Fake Drawings - Pictures Please Urge
Publishers to Fix Textbooks by Texans for Better Science
Education

.
User: "Dana Tweedy"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 27 Oct 2006 02:12:05 PM
<mccoy@sunset.net> wrote in message
news:mccoy-1161974435.931170.119220@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


Roy Jose Lorr wrote:

http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=2128&enterthread=y

Ontogeny Recapitulates Phylogeny? Haekel's faked embryonic
drawings The theory of embryonic recapitulation asserts that
the human fetus goes through various stages of its
evolutionary history as it develops. Ernst Haeckel proposed
this theory in the late 1860's, promoting Darwin's theory of
evolution in Germany. He made detailed drawings of the
embryonic development of eight different embryos in three
stages of development, to bolster his claim. His work was
hailed as a great development in the understanding of human
evolution. A few years later his drawings were shown to have
been fabricated, and the data manufactured. He blamed the
artist for the discrepancies, without admitting that he was
the artist.


This is a new twist.

Or it's not true.

I haven't checked out your claims but I've never
read anywhere, up till now, the supposed fact that he blamed it on the
artist, but not revealing that he was the artist. This makes the
situation, if actual, worse for evolutionists DJT and et. al. Let's
wait and see.

Why would this make it "worse"? Vertibrate embryos still show similarities
that demonstrate common descent.
DJT
.
User: "Dan Wood"

Title: Re: Evolution Frauds--2 27 Oct 2006 11:00:53 PM
"Dana Tweedy" <reddfrogg@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:cI6dnfxWadVxxN_YnZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d@comcast.com...


<mccoy@sunset.net> wrote in message
news:mccoy-1161974435.931170.119220@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...


Roy Jose Lorr wrote:


http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=2128&enterthread=y


Ontogeny Recapitulates Phylogeny? Haekel's faked embryonic
drawings The theory of embryonic recapitulation asserts that
the human fetus goes through various stages of its
evolutionary history as it develops. Ernst Haeckel proposed
this theory in the late 1860's, promoting Darwin's theory of
evolution in Germany. He made detailed drawings of the
embryonic development of eight different embryos in three
stages of development, to bolster his claim. His work was
hailed as a great development in the understanding of human
evolution. A few years later his drawings were shown to have
been fabricated, and the data manufactured. He blamed the
artist for the discrepancies, without admitting that he was
the artist.


This is a new twist.


Or it's not true.

I haven't checked out your claims but I've never
read anywhere, up till now, the supposed fact that he blamed it on the
artist, but not revealing that he was the artist. This makes the
situation, if actual, worse for evolutionists DJT and et. al. Let's
wait and see.


Why would this make it "worse"? Vertibrate embryos still show

similarities

that demonstrate common descent.

Explain why similarities demonstrate common descent rather than a common
designer working with a common theme with variation.
Mrs. D. Wood


DJT


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