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"Roy Jose Lorr" |
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26 Oct 2006 08:38:12 PM |
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Evolution Frauds |
http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=2128&enterthread=y
Human Ancestral Frauds Piltdown man: Found in a gravel pit
in Sussex England in 1912, this fossil was considered by
some sources to be the second most important fossil proving
the evolution of man - until it was found to be a complete
forgery 41 years later. The skull was found to be of modern
age. The fragments had been chemically stained to give the
appearance of age, and the teeth had been filed down!
Nebraska man: A single tooth, discovered in Nebraska in 1922
grew an entire evolutionary link between man and monkey,
until another identical tooth was found which was protruding
from the jawbone of a wild pig. Java man: Initially
discovered by Dutchman Eugene Dubois in 1891, all that was
found of this claimed originator of humans was a skullcap,
three teeth and a femur. The femur was found 50 feet away
from the original skullcap a full year later. For almost 30
years Dubois downplayed the Wadjak skulls (two undoubtedly
human skulls found very close to his "missing link").
(source: Hank Hanegraaff, The Face That Demonstrates The
Farce Of Evolution, [Word Publishing, Nashville, 1998],
pp.50-52) Orce man: Found in the southern Spanish town of
Orce in 1982, and hailed as the oldest fossilized human
remains ever found in Europe. One year later officials
admitted the skull fragment was not human but probably came
from a 4 month old donkey. Scientists had said the skull
belonged to a 17 year old man who lived 900,000 to 1.6
million years ago, and even had very detail drawings done to
represent what he would have looked like. (source: "Skull
fragment may not be human", Knoxville News-Sentinel, 1983)
Neanderthal: Still synonymous with brutishness, the first
Neanderthal remains were found in France in 1908. Considered
to be ignorant, ape-like, stooped and knuckle-dragging, much
of the evidence now suggests that Neanderthal was just as
human as us, and his stooped appearance was because of
arthritis and rickets. Neanderthals are now recognized as
skilled hunters, believers in an after-life, and even
skilled surgeons, as seen in one skeleton whose withered
right arm had been amputated above the elbow. (source:
"Upgrading Neanderthal Man", Time Magazine, May 17, 1971,
Vol. 97, No. 20) Human Ancestor Fraud - Creationist Links A
Human Ancestor Fraud Deceptive Fossil Interpretations of
Evolutionists from the Muslim online book Evolution Deceit
Features of Piltdown Skull "Deliberate Fakes" Human
Evolution - Frauds and Mistakes Lucy's Fraudulent Fame Orce
man hominid fraud Piltdown man fraud The Ape-men fallacy by
Malcolm Bowden (Review of book - Ape-men: Fact or Fallacy?)
The Face that Demonstrates the Farce of Evolution The
following is a transcript of The Apemen Frauds portion of
the audio tape. The Piltdown Man Fraud by Monty White The
Story of the Piltdown Man by the Creation-Evolution
Encyclopedia The Yale DNA Hybridization Scandal - A UC
Berkely professor reports on the intentional alteration of
hybridization data which was used to support the theory that
humans are more closely related to chimpanzees.
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| Title: Re: Evolution Frauds |
26 Oct 2006 08:54:26 PM |
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I snipped everything unrelated to the creation-evolution debate.
James
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| User: "John Burton" |
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28 Oct 2006 10:54:20 PM |
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rev.goetz wrote:
I snipped everything unrelated to the creation-evolution debate.
James
All of the remaining relevant material appears to be without error.
John
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| User: "SeppoP" |
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27 Oct 2006 12:46:17 AM |
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I took the liberty of making Ray's post more readable without losing any information content...
(Sorry about top posting)
Roy Jose Lorr wrote:
http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=2128&enterthread=y
Croak Croak Croak Croak croak: Croak croak croak croak croak croak Croak Croak croak 1912, croak croak croak croak croak
croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak - croak croak croak croak croak
croak croak croak croak 41 croak croak. Croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak. Croak croak croak croak
croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak, croak croak croak croak croak croak croak! Croak croak: CROAK croak
croak, croak croak Croak croak 1922 croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak, croak croak croak croak croak
croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak. Croak croak: Croak croak croak Croak Croak Croak
croak 1891, croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak, croak croak croak croak
croak. Croak croak croak croak 50 croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak. Croak croak 30 croak
Croak croak croak Croak croak (croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak "croak croak"). (croak: Croak
Croak, Croak Croak Croak Croak Croak Croak Croak Croak, [Croak Croak, Croak, 1998], croak.50-52) Croak croak: Croak
croak croak croak Croak croak croak Croak croak 1982, croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak
Croak. Croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak 4 croak croak
croak. Croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak 17 croak croak croak croak croak 900,000 croak 1.6 croak croak
croak, croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak. (croak: "Croak croak
croak croak croak croak", Croak Croak-Croak, 1983) Croak: Croak croak croak croak, croak croak Croak croak croak croak
croak Croak croak 1908. Croak croak croak croak, croak-croak, croak croak croak-croak, croak croak croak croak croak
croak croak Croak croak croak croak croak croak croak, croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak.
Croak croak croak croak croak croak croak, croak croak croak croak-croak, croak croak croak croak, croak croak croak
croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak. (croak: "Croak Croak Croak", Croak Croak, Croak
17, 1971, Croak. 97, Croak. 20) Croak Croak Croak - Croak Croak CROAK Croak Croak Croak Croak Croak Croak croak Croak
croak croak Croak croak croak Croak Croak Croak croak Croak Croak "Croak Croak" Croak Croak - Croak croak Croak
Croak'croak Croak Croak Croak croak croak croak Croak croak croak Croak Croak-croak croak croak Croak Croak (Croak croak
croak - Croak-croak: Croak croak Croak?) Croak Croak croak Croak croak Croak croak Croak Croak croak croak croak croak
croak Croak Croak Croak croak croak croak croak croak. Croak Croak Croak Croak croak Croak Croak Croak Croak croak croak
Croak Croak croak croak Croak-Croak Croak Croak Croak CROAK Croak Croak - CROAK CROAK Croak croak croak croak croak
croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak.
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Seppo P.
What's wrong with Theocracy? (a Finnish Taliban, Oct 1, 2005)
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| User: "Turner" |
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27 Oct 2006 08:46:38 AM |
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SeppoP wrote:
I took the liberty of making Ray's post more readable without losing any information content...
(Sorry about top posting)
Roy Jose Lorr wrote:
http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=2128&enterthread=y
Croak Croak Croak Croak croak: Croak croak croak croak croak croak Croak Croak croak 1912, croak croak croak croak croak
croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak - croak croak croak croak croak
croak croak croak croak 41 croak croak. Croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak. Croak croak croak croak
croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak, croak croak croak croak croak croak croak! Croak croak: CROAK croak
croak, croak croak Croak croak 1922 croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak, croak croak croak croak croak
croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak. Croak croak: Croak croak croak Croak Croak Croak
croak 1891, croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak, croak croak croak croak
croak. Croak croak croak croak 50 croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak. Croak croak 30 croak
Croak croak croak Croak croak (croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak "croak croak"). (croak: Croak
Croak, Croak Croak Croak Croak Croak Croak Croak Croak, [Croak Croak, Croak, 1998], croak.50-52) Croak croak: Croak
croak croak croak Croak croak croak Croak croak 1982, croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak
Croak. Croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak 4 croak croak
croak. Croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak 17 croak croak croak croak croak 900,000 croak 1.6 croak croak
croak, croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak. (croak: "Croak croak
croak croak croak croak", Croak Croak-Croak, 1983) Croak: Croak croak croak croak, croak croak Croak croak croak croak
croak Croak croak 1908. Croak croak croak croak, croak-croak, croak croak croak-croak, croak croak croak croak croak
croak croak Croak croak croak croak croak croak croak, croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak.
Croak croak croak croak croak croak croak, croak croak croak croak-croak, croak croak croak croak, croak croak croak
croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak. (croak: "Croak Croak Croak", Croak Croak, Croak
17, 1971, Croak. 97, Croak. 20) Croak Croak Croak - Croak Croak CROAK Croak Croak Croak Croak Croak Croak croak Croak
croak croak Croak croak croak Croak Croak Croak croak Croak Croak "Croak Croak" Croak Croak - Croak croak Croak
Croak'croak Croak Croak Croak croak croak croak Croak croak croak Croak Croak-croak croak croak Croak Croak (Croak croak
croak - Croak-croak: Croak croak Croak?) Croak Croak croak Croak croak Croak croak Croak Croak croak croak croak croak
croak Croak Croak Croak croak croak croak croak croak. Croak Croak Croak Croak croak Croak Croak Croak Croak croak croak
Croak Croak croak croak Croak-Croak Croak Croak Croak CROAK Croak Croak - CROAK CROAK Croak croak croak croak croak
croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak croak.
Ah, it makes so much more sense when you put it like that!
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Seppo P.
What's wrong with Theocracy? (a Finnish Taliban, Oct 1, 2005)
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27 Oct 2006 01:46:35 AM |
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SeppoP wrote:
I took the liberty of making Ray's post more readable without losing any information content...
(Sorry about top posting)
Roy Jose Lorr wrote:
http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=2128&enterthread=y
Croak Croak Croak Croak croak: Croak croak croak croak croak croak Croak Croak croak 1912, croak croak<snip for brevity>
Rivetting!
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| User: "Victor Eijkhout" |
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28 Oct 2006 09:55:10 PM |
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Pastor Kutchie <user13@heathens.org.uk> wrote:
Croak Croak Croak Croak croak: Croak croak croak croak croak croak Croak
Croak croak 1912, croak croak<snip for brevity>
Rivetting!
You're painting too rosy a picture.
Victor.
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Victor Eijkhout -- eijkhout at tacc utexas edu
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27 Oct 2006 05:04:53 PM |
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Pastor Kutchie wrote:
SeppoP wrote:
I took the liberty of making Ray's post more readable without losing any information content...
(Sorry about top posting)
Roy Jose Lorr wrote:
http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=2128&enterthread=y
Croak Croak Croak Croak croak: Croak croak croak croak croak croak Croak Croak croak 1912, croak croak<snip for brevity>
Rivetting!
I newt it meant something!
Jason Harvestdancer
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| User: "Mark Isaak" |
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27 Oct 2006 05:56:16 PM |
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On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:04:53 -0700, Harvest Dancer wrote:
Pastor Kutchie wrote:
SeppoP wrote:
I took the liberty of making Ray's post more readable without losing any information content...
(Sorry about top posting)
Roy Jose Lorr wrote:
http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=2128&enterthread=y
Croak Croak Croak Croak croak: Croak croak croak croak croak croak Croak Croak croak 1912, croak croak<snip for brevity>
Rivetting!
I newt it meant something!
It was a tad pole-mic.
--
Mark Isaak eciton (at) earthlink (dot) net
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of
the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are
being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and
exposing the country to danger." -- Hermann Goering
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27 Oct 2006 09:56:48 PM |
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Mark Isaak wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:04:53 -0700, Harvest Dancer wrote:
Pastor Kutchie wrote:
SeppoP wrote:
I took the liberty of making Ray's post more readable without losing any information content...
(Sorry about top posting)
Roy Jose Lorr wrote:
http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=2128&enterthread=y
Croak Croak Croak Croak croak: Croak croak croak croak croak croak Croak Croak croak 1912, croak croak<snip for brevity>
Rivetting!
I newt it meant something!
It was a tad pole-mic.
Ok, now the silliness is knee deep.
--
Mark Isaak eciton (at) earthlink (dot) net
"Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of
the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are
being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and
exposing the country to danger." -- Hermann Goering
Kermit
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| User: "John Wilkins" |
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27 Oct 2006 10:18:55 PM |
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Kermit <unrestrained_hand@hotmail.com> wrote:
Mark Isaak wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:04:53 -0700, Harvest Dancer wrote:
Pastor Kutchie wrote:
SeppoP wrote:
I took the liberty of making Ray's post more readable without
losing any information content... (Sorry about top posting)
Roy Jose Lorr wrote: >
http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=
7&threadid=2128&enterthread=y
Croak Croak Croak Croak croak: Croak croak croak croak croak croak
Croak Croak croak 1912, croak croak<snip for brevity>
Rivetting!
I newt it meant something!
It was a tad pole-mic.
Ok, now the silliness is knee deep.
Well, look before you leap, you cur. Mitts off our pun cascade.
--
John S. Wilkins, Postdoctoral Research Fellow, Biohumanities Project
University of Queensland - Blog: scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoughts
"He used... sarcasm. He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor,
bathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire. He was vicious."
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27 Oct 2006 10:52:45 PM |
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"John Wilkins" <j.wilkins1@uq.edu.au> wrote in message
news:1hnx5wu.7grx0r1vwrfujN%j.wilkins1@uq.edu.au...
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Croak Croak Croak Croak croak: Croak croak croak croak croak croak
Croak Croak croak 1912, croak croak<snip for brevity>
Rivetting!
I newt it meant something!
It was a tad pole-mic.
Ok, now the silliness is knee deep.
Well, look before you leap, you cur. Mitts off our pun cascade.
I hate to Rana on your parade, but I toad you so.....
DJT
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27 Oct 2006 11:01:12 PM |
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Dana Tweedy wrote:
"John Wilkins" <j.wilkins1@uq.edu.au> wrote in message
news:1hnx5wu.7grx0r1vwrfujN%j.wilkins1@uq.edu.au...
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Croak Croak Croak Croak croak: Croak croak croak croak croak croak
Croak Croak croak 1912, croak croak<snip for brevity>
Rivetting!
I newt it meant something!
It was a tad pole-mic.
Ok, now the silliness is knee deep.
Well, look before you leap, you cur. Mitts off our pun cascade.
I hate to Rana on your parade, but I toad you so.....
I cannot describe my amphibalence to that remark.
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28 Oct 2006 12:40:55 AM |
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"Ken Rode" <karode@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:1162008072.456840.292420@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Dana Tweedy wrote:
"John Wilkins" <j.wilkins1@uq.edu.au> wrote in message
news:1hnx5wu.7grx0r1vwrfujN%j.wilkins1@uq.edu.au...
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Croak Croak Croak Croak croak: Croak croak croak croak croak
croak
Croak Croak croak 1912, croak croak<snip for brevity>
Rivetting!
I newt it meant something!
It was a tad pole-mic.
Ok, now the silliness is knee deep.
Well, look before you leap, you cur. Mitts off our pun cascade.
I hate to Rana on your parade, but I toad you so.....
I cannot describe my amphibalence to that remark.
Another bufo thread hops onto the path of pun cascadeism..
Boikat
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| Title: Re: Evolution Frauds |
28 Oct 2006 03:52:31 AM |
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bullpup wrote:
"Ken Rode" <karode@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:1162008072.456840.292420@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Dana Tweedy wrote:
"John Wilkins" <j.wilkins1@uq.edu.au> wrote in message
news:1hnx5wu.7grx0r1vwrfujN%j.wilkins1@uq.edu.au...
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Croak Croak Croak Croak croak: Croak croak croak croak croak
croak
Croak Croak croak 1912, croak croak<snip for brevity>
Rivetting!
I newt it meant something!
It was a tad pole-mic.
Ok, now the silliness is knee deep.
Well, look before you leap, you cur. Mitts off our pun cascade.
I hate to Rana on your parade, but I toad you so.....
I cannot describe my amphibalence to that remark.
Another bufo thread hops onto the path of pun cascadeism..
I toad you it would all end in tears. Still, axolotl questions and
you'll get a lotl answers.
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28 Oct 2006 04:16:20 AM |
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Tiny Bulcher <RSGD9000@aol.com> wrote:
bullpup wrote:
"Ken Rode" <karode@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:1162008072.456840.292420@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Dana Tweedy wrote:
"John Wilkins" <j.wilkins1@uq.edu.au> wrote in message
news:1hnx5wu.7grx0r1vwrfujN%j.wilkins1@uq.edu.au...
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Croak Croak Croak Croak croak: Croak croak croak croak croak
croak
Croak Croak croak 1912, croak croak<snip for brevity>
Rivetting!
I newt it meant something!
It was a tad pole-mic.
Ok, now the silliness is knee deep.
Well, look before you leap, you cur. Mitts off our pun cascade.
I hate to Rana on your parade, but I toad you so.....
I cannot describe my amphibalence to that remark.
Another bufo thread hops onto the path of pun cascadeism..
I toad you it would all end in tears. Still, axolotl questions and
you'll get a lotl answers.
Anura lot of smart alecs would spawn a chorus of similar calls.
--
John S. Wilkins, Postdoctoral Research Fellow, Biohumanities Project
University of Queensland - Blog: scienceblogs.com/evolvingthoughts
"He used... sarcasm. He knew all the tricks, dramatic irony, metaphor,
bathos, puns, parody, litotes and... satire. He was vicious."
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27 Oct 2006 07:08:29 AM |
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In alt.atheism On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:38:12 -0700, Roy Jose Lorr
<Kenthz@comcast.net> let us all know that:
Oh Roy-boy, take a look at this:
Some fraudulent cretinist credentials:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/credentials.html
The huge fraud known at the "Paluxy river dinosaur and man
tracks"
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/paluxy.html
Lies told by members of the ICR:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/icr-whoppers.html
Quotes taken out of context or otherwise misused by
cretinists:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/quotes/mine/project.html
Don
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aa #51, Knight of BAAWA, DNRC o-, Member of the [H]orde
Atheist Minister for St. Dogbert.
"No being is so important that he can usurp the rights of another"
Picard to Data/Graves "The Schizoid Man"
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| User: "Pip R. Lagenta" |
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27 Oct 2006 01:35:20 PM |
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On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 18:38:12 -0700, Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net>
wrote:
http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&threadid=2128&enterthread=y
Human Ancestral Frauds Piltdown man: Found in a gravel pit
[snip]
Like, duh:
<http://www.talkorigins.org/indexcc/CC/CC001.html>
Been there... Done that...
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¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,
Pip R. Lagenta Pip R. Lagenta Pip R. Lagenta Pip R. Lagenta
ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°
-- Pip R. Lagenta
President for Life
International Organization Of People Named Pip R. Lagenta
(If your name is Pip R. Lagenta, ask about our dues!)
<http://home.comcast.net/~galentripp/pip.html>
(For Email: I'm at home, not work.)
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| User: "Ilas" |
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27 Oct 2006 02:36:33 AM |
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Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote in
news:QpedneHyYIOy_tzYnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com:
http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&th
readid=2128&enterthread=y
Human Ancestral Frauds Piltdown man blah blah blah blah
In 1,000 words or less, please explain why Piltdown Man (and/or any of the
other "frauds" the Christian Taliban are so keen on) provide any sort of
rebuttal of the ToE.
Once you've done that, in 1,000 words or less, please explain how Piltdown
Man (and/or any of the other "frauds" the Christian Taliban are so keen on)
provide any sort of proof that the Universe and everything in it was
created in 6 days, less than 10,000 years ago, by a supernatural being, a
loving being, who refuses to provide proof of his existance but then goes
on to damn to eternal torture the 99.9% of humans who have not followed his
frankly deranged teachings.
Thanks in advance.
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| User: "Kermit" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution Frauds |
27 Oct 2006 09:17:29 AM |
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Ilas wrote:
Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote in
news:QpedneHyYIOy_tzYnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com:
http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&th
readid=2128&enterthread=y
Human Ancestral Frauds Piltdown man blah blah blah blah
In 1,000 words or less, please explain why Piltdown Man (and/or any of the
other "frauds" the Christian Taliban are so keen on) provide any sort of
rebuttal of the ToE.
That's because this is the best case of fraud in evolutionary science
that they know of. Nevermind that it was debunked by scientists over
half a century ago, and there is no indication that ti was a scientist
who perpetrated it - it's the best they have.
Once you've done that, in 1,000 words or less, please explain how Piltdown
Man (and/or any of the other "frauds" the Christian Taliban are so keen on)
provide any sort of proof that the Universe and everything in it was
created in 6 days, less than 10,000 years ago, by a supernatural being, a
loving being, who refuses to provide proof of his existance but then goes
on to damn to eternal torture the 99.9% of humans who have not followed his
frankly deranged teachings.
Ditto for this. They have no better evidence for Young Earth
Creationism than a long-debunked faked fossil. Piltdown man was a fake;
therefore, Jesus.
Thanks in advance.
You're welcome.
Kermit
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| User: "Azaliah" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution Frauds |
27 Oct 2006 07:08:24 AM |
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On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:36:33 GMT, while bungee jumping, Ilas
<nobody@this.address.com> shouted thusly:
Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote in
news:QpedneHyYIOy_tzYnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com:
http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&th
readid=2128&enterthread=y
Human Ancestral Frauds Piltdown man blah blah blah blah
In 1,000 words or less, please explain why Piltdown Man (and/or any of the
other "frauds" the Christian Taliban are so keen on) provide any sort of
rebuttal of the ToE.
You sure can't be that stupid. No, of course you're not.
You're just trying to find a way out.
--
Azaliah (ats-al-yaw'-hoo) "Jah has reserved"
<((>< <((>< <((><
"Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."
- John 17:17
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| User: "Ilas" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution Frauds |
27 Oct 2006 07:41:55 AM |
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Azaliah <_giantwaffle_@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:9kt3k2pfnikrq3mcbllgg604hhanfavpkl@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:36:33 GMT, while bungee jumping, Ilas
<nobody@this.address.com> shouted thusly:
Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote in
news:QpedneHyYIOy_tzYnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com:
http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&
th readid=2128&enterthread=y
Human Ancestral Frauds Piltdown man blah blah blah blah
In 1,000 words or less, please explain why Piltdown Man (and/or any of
the other "frauds" the Christian Taliban are so keen on) provide any
sort of rebuttal of the ToE.
You sure can't be that stupid. No, of course you're not.
You're just trying to find a way out.
Assume I am. Please explain, in as many words as you want, why Piltdown Man
provides any sort of rebuttal of the ToE. Once you've done that, please
explain how the Piltdown Man fraud supports the idea that a supernatural
being, for which there is no evidence, created the universe and all in it.
Thank you.
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| User: "Azaliah" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution Frauds |
27 Oct 2006 08:34:11 AM |
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On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:41:55 GMT, while bungee jumping, Ilas
<nobody@this.address.com> shouted thusly:
Azaliah <_giantwaffle_@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:9kt3k2pfnikrq3mcbllgg604hhanfavpkl@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:36:33 GMT, while bungee jumping, Ilas
<nobody@this.address.com> shouted thusly:
Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote in
news:QpedneHyYIOy_tzYnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com:
http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&
th readid=2128&enterthread=y
Human Ancestral Frauds Piltdown man blah blah blah blah
In 1,000 words or less, please explain why Piltdown Man (and/or any of
the other "frauds" the Christian Taliban are so keen on) provide any
sort of rebuttal of the ToE.
You sure can't be that stupid. No, of course you're not.
You're just trying to find a way out.
Assume I am. Please explain, in as many words as you want, why Piltdown Man
provides any sort of rebuttal of the ToE.
Yes, of course. Fool yourself into thinking that when
your supposed evidence is destroyed, that it means
that your belief still stands and that no matter what,
the burden is always on the other person. You need
to fool yourself into believing that, because you hate
the idea of having to admit that without the evidence,
you have case.
--
Azaliah (ats-al-yaw'-hoo) "Jah has reserved"
<((>< <((>< <((><
"Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."
- John 17:17
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| User: "Ilas" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution Frauds |
27 Oct 2006 08:56:58 AM |
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Azaliah <_giantwaffle_@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:5k24k2putups63guj0gqc08ha8pg7s8j5l@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:41:55 GMT, while bungee jumping, Ilas
<nobody@this.address.com> shouted thusly:
Assume I am. Please explain, in as many words as you want, why
Piltdown Man provides any sort of rebuttal of the ToE.
Yes, of course. Fool yourself into thinking that when
your supposed evidence is destroyed, that it means
that your belief still stands and that no matter what,
the burden is always on the other person. You need
to fool yourself into believing that, because you hate
the idea of having to admit that without the evidence,
you have case.
I think you mean "no case".
OK, let's try again. You've made some assertions about how I'm "fooling
myself" and that I have "[no] case; what you forgot to do was answer my
question. Here it is again, in full:
"Please explain, in as many words as you want, why Piltdown Man provides
any sort of rebuttal of the ToE."
From your words above ("you hate the idea of having to admit that without
the evidence"), it seems that you believe that Piltdown Man forms or formed
a large or significant part of the body of evidence for the ToE, or that
the ToE somehow relies or relied on Piltdown Man. Most people who know of
Piltdown Man know that this is not true, and I've found that those who
claim it is true are usually deeply dishonest. If you do believe this, I'm
happy to point you towards many thousands of pieces of evidence that
support the ToE, none of which rely on Piltdown Man. Would that help your
answer?
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| User: "Kermit" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution Frauds |
27 Oct 2006 09:53:50 AM |
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Azaliah wrote:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 12:41:55 GMT, while bungee jumping, Ilas
<nobody@this.address.com> shouted thusly:
Azaliah <_giantwaffle_@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:9kt3k2pfnikrq3mcbllgg604hhanfavpkl@4ax.com:
On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 07:36:33 GMT, while bungee jumping, Ilas
<nobody@this.address.com> shouted thusly:
Roy Jose Lorr <Kenthz@comcast.net> wrote in
news:QpedneHyYIOy_tzYnZ2dnUVZ_rWdnZ2d@comcast.com:
http://www.prolifeamerica.com/fusetalk/forum/messageview.cfm?catid=7&
th readid=2128&enterthread=y
Human Ancestral Frauds Piltdown man blah blah blah blah
In 1,000 words or less, please explain why Piltdown Man (and/or any of
the other "frauds" the Christian Taliban are so keen on) provide any
sort of rebuttal of the ToE.
You sure can't be that stupid. No, of course you're not.
You're just trying to find a way out.
Assume I am. Please explain, in as many words as you want, why Piltdown Man
provides any sort of rebuttal of the ToE.
Yes, of course. Fool yourself into thinking that when
your supposed evidence
Ummm...
Surely you realize that we have hundreds of significant fossils on
premodern hominids alone. Piltdown Man was no important to our
understanding of human development; it didn't fit into the pattern of
fossils, and was in any event debunked (by scientists) over half a
century ago.
There are millions of fossils providing a very clear picture of the
overall process of evolution; the broad picture is clear and
indisputable, given the evidence we have. And the fossil evidence is
not the most important - the genetic evidence is.
The story of the origins of the species are written not only in stone
but also in the blood that flows thru our veins. Plus there is
important and supporting evidence from ice cores, behavioral sciences,
lab work, speciation in the field, history and anthropology, etc. And
the picture revealed by all of these lines of evidence converge on the
same fact: existing species, and past, now extinct, species, are
descended by modification from a common ancestor.
Scientists rejected Piltdown Man. What do you say of Turkana Boy?
is destroyed,
The evidence was debunked, by scientists. Science is self-correcting,
which is why it is so respected, and so successful.
that it means
that your belief still stands and that no matter what,
the burden is always on the other person.
Feel free to offer a testable model that fits the evidence which *isn't
evolution. If you do that, you'll be famous. But it must be testable,
and it must fit the data, or it isn't science.
Young Earth Creationism, for instance, flies in the face of the
astronomical, biological, radiological, and astronomical evidence.
You need
to fool yourself into believing that, because you hate
the idea of having to admit that without the evidence,
you have case.
There is no science without evidence. What on Earth are you talking
about? Scientists understand this perfectly well. Science is all about
explaining the evidence.
Piltdown is nothing. It has been nothing for 50 years, and it was
trivial before that. If the James Ossuary turns out to be a fraud, is
all of Christianity refuted?
http://www.bibleinterp.com/articles/Official_Report.htm
--
Azaliah (ats-al-yaw'-hoo) "Jah has reserved"
<((>< <((>< <((><
"Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."
- John 17:17
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Kermit
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| User: "Ernest Major" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution Frauds |
27 Oct 2006 01:50:34 PM |
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In message <1161960829.939828.231940@m7g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
Kermit <unrestrained_hand@hotmail.com> writes
The story of the origins of the species are written not only in stone
but also in the blood that flows thru our veins.
If I may remind people (well, bibliolators)-
http://www.echoschildren.org/CDlyrics/WORDGOD.HTML
--
alias Ernest Major
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| User: "Azaliah" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution Frauds |
27 Oct 2006 10:16:59 AM |
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On 27 Oct 2006 07:53:50 -0700, while bungee jumping, "Kermit"
<unrestrained_hand@hotmail.com> shouted thusly:
There are millions of fossils providing a very clear picture of the
overall process of evolution;
That's a lie.
--
Azaliah (ats-al-yaw'-hoo) "Jah has reserved"
<((>< <((>< <((><
"Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."
- John 17:17
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| User: "Ilas" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution Frauds |
27 Oct 2006 10:37:32 AM |
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Azaliah <_giantwaffle_@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:2m84k25kf6dq5e8rvu2s7tkbnbumoqk1kn@4ax.com:
On 27 Oct 2006 07:53:50 -0700, while bungee jumping, "Kermit"
<unrestrained_hand@hotmail.com> shouted thusly:
There are millions of fossils providing a very clear picture of the
overall process of evolution;
That's a lie.
Is it? Could you provide any proof of that? Thanks.
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| User: "SeppoP" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution Frauds |
27 Oct 2006 10:27:34 AM |
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Azaliah wrote:
On 27 Oct 2006 07:53:50 -0700, while bungee jumping, "Kermit"
<unrestrained_hand@hotmail.com> shouted thusly:
There are millions of fossils providing a very clear picture of the
overall process of evolution;
That's a lie.
I'm quite sure you'll be providing contrary evidence in no time...
Right?
--
Seppo P.
What's wrong with Theocracy? (a Finnish Taliban, Oct 1, 2005)
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| User: "Kermit" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution Frauds |
27 Oct 2006 03:03:14 PM |
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Azaliah wrote:
On 27 Oct 2006 07:53:50 -0700, while bungee jumping, "Kermit"
<unrestrained_hand@hotmail.com> shouted thusly:
There are millions of fossils providing a very clear picture of the
overall process of evolution;
That's a lie.
Curious accusation, that, when any visit to a natural history museum
will show hundreds on display. And they all have thousands in the back
rooms. And there are thousands of such museums around the world. Not to
mention your local university probably has a small display in the
biology and possibly geology departments.
My wife worked for the university one summer as a student and sorted
thousands of diatom fossils for one of the paleontologists there.
Or perhaps you mean that there *are millions of fossils, but they
instead paint a picture of special creation - stretched over several
hundred million years, with each specially-created species just a
little different than its predecessor?
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Azaliah (ats-al-yaw'-hoo) "Jah has reserved"
That's all! Yahoo!
<((>< <((>< <((><
"Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth."
- John 17:17
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The truth being, apparently, anything that makes you feel good, but not
anything which matches reality. So, does this mean you are one of those
post-modernist socialist deconstructionists? Reality as well as
literature can be perceived thru the distorting lens of your politics,
and don't bother you with details - such as facts?
Also, you forgot to mark the snips.
Kermit
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| User: "Pip R. Lagenta" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution Frauds |
27 Oct 2006 01:00:50 PM |
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On Fri, 27 Oct 2006 15:16:59 GMT, Azaliah <_giantwaffle_@yahoo.com>
wrote:
On 27 Oct 2006 07:53:50 -0700, while bungee jumping, "Kermit"
<unrestrained_hand@hotmail.com> shouted thusly:
There are millions of fossils providing a very clear picture of the
overall process of evolution;
That's a lie.
Really? Well, then, what *are* all those millions of fossil-like
things that you, yourself, can go study in museums, should you so
chose to? Why don't you study them *first*, before you try to tell
anybody that they don't exist? That way, when someone asks you what
they are, you can give a truthful answer. "Give a truthful answer"?
I'm asking too much of you, aren't I?
--
¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,
Pip R. Lagenta Pip R. Lagenta Pip R. Lagenta Pip R. Lagenta
ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°
-- Pip R. Lagenta
President for Life
International Organization Of People Named Pip R. Lagenta
(If your name is Pip R. Lagenta, ask about our dues!)
<http://home.comcast.net/~galentripp/pip.html>
(For Email: I'm at home, not work.)
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