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05 Sep 2003 09:33:21 AM |
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Evolution in action (Amish Road Rage) |
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On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 14:14:59 GMT, Anon Guy <AnonGuy@The.Basement.Cave> wrote:
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 07:03:24 -0700, Scott in Aztlan
<qinencnyn@lnubb.pbz> wrote:
Just heard this story on the Howard Stern Radio Show: a bunch of Amish kids who
were hiding in a cornfield threw tomatoes at a passing car (Lincoln or
Cadillac). The driver got out and returned fire - with a shotgun. Now one of
those tomato-throwing punkasses is dead.
Let's hope the survivors learn a lesson and think twice before vandalizing other
vehicles...
REPOST
Akron Beacon Journal
Tue, Sep. 02, 2003
Enraged motorist kills prankster
Victim, 23, was hurling tomatoes at passing cars in Holmes County
By Sallie Cook
Special to the Beacon Journal
MOUNT HOPE - A motorist enraged by a group of young people
throwing tomatoes at his car killed a 23-year-old Apple Creek man
late Monday by firing a shotgun into a cornfield.
Steven L. Keim of Swinehart Road, and 11 others, ages 15 to 23,
were throwing tomatoes and firing paint balls at passing vehicles
along state Route 241, north of Mount Hope, said Nathan L. Fritz,
Holmes County sheriff's chief deputy.
Keim was the only one in the group of women and men who was
struck by shotgun pellets, Fritz said. None of the others, all from
Wayne and Holmes counties, was injured, he said.
Deputies have no suspects. The motorist is described as having a
medium build and is middle-aged by the sound of his voice, Fritz
said.
``There is no artificial light out there,'' Fritz said. ``They didn't
recognize him.''
The motorist, who was driving a light-colored Lincoln or Cadillac,
stopped, got out of the car and warned that he would shoot
whoever threw the tomatoes. The vehicle continued north for a
short distance, turned around and drove by the cornfield again. The
car was struck by tomatoes a second time.
The man yelled obscenities at the group and drove off, Fritz said.
About 25 minutes later, the car drove by the cornfield a third time,
stopped, and the motorist challenged the group to throw more
tomatoes. The motorist then grabbed a shotgun from his car and
fired it three to five times into the cornfield, striking Keim, who
was about 35 yards away. Four shell casings have been recovered,
Fritz said.
Keim ran about 20 yards back into the cornfield then collapsed,
Fritz said. One of his friends called police by cell phone.
According to witnesses, the car drove by the cornfield twice more
before it turned onto Township Road 616 and was not seen again,
Fritz said.
The shots were not random, said Fritz, but were directed to one
part of the cornfield.
Fritz said he did not know if the man planned to shoot Keim. All of
the group was hiding one or two rows back in the cornfield, Fritz
said. Neighbors heard the commotion and called deputies about
11:30 p.m. Keim was struck about 10 minutes later, Fritz said.
Fritz said deputies plan to reinterview the teens and young adults
today. ``Some had conflicting stories,'' he said.
Fritz said incidents of throwing tomatoes at cars often happen
during the fall. A sheriff's cruiser was struck by a tomato Sunday
night, he said.
``It's something that goes on and is hard to prevent,'' he said.
The Stark County Coroner's Office was to have conducted an
autopsy Tuesday afternoon. Preliminary results are expected today,
a spokeswoman said.
Calling hours for Keim will be from 6 to 8 p.m. Thursday and 2 to
4 p.m. and 6 to 8 p.m. Friday at East Union Mennonite Church,
10678 Old Lincoln Way. Funeral services will be at 10 a.m.
Saturday at the church. Burial will be at Erb Cemetery in East
Union Township.
Keim was a partner in Reroof Specialties of Apple Creek. He is
survived by parents Reuben I. and Gladys V. Keim; sisters Juanita
and Rosanna; and a brother, Merlin D. Keim, all of Apple Creek.
Spidell funeral home in Mount Eaton is handling arrangements.
http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/6677011.htm
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| User: "Beowulf" |
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05 Sep 2003 03:27:53 PM |
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On 05 Sep 2003 14:33:21 GMT, TCS
<The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> ejaculated:
from rec.autos.driving
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 14:14:59 GMT, Anon Guy <AnonGuy@The.Basement.Cave> wrote:
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 07:03:24 -0700, Scott in Aztlan
<qinencnyn@lnubb.pbz> wrote:
Just heard this story on the Howard Stern Radio Show: a bunch of **Amish** kids who
were hiding in a cornfield threw tomatoes at a passing car (Lincoln or
<snip>
Calling hours for Keim will be from 6 to 8 p.m. Thursday and 2 to
4 p.m. and 6 to 8 p.m. Friday at East Union **Mennonite** Church,
10678 Old Lincoln Way. Funeral services will be at 10 a.m.
Umm, Mennonites are not Amish.
--
Diesels do it by squeezing real hard.
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| User: "John Popelish" |
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05 Sep 2003 06:03:02 PM |
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Beowulf wrote:
On 05 Sep 2003 14:33:21 GMT, TCS
<The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> ejaculated:
from rec.autos.driving
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 14:14:59 GMT, Anon Guy <AnonGuy@The.Basement.Cave> wrote:
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 07:03:24 -0700, Scott in Aztlan
<qinencnyn@lnubb.pbz> wrote:
Just heard this story on the Howard Stern Radio Show: a bunch of **Amish** kids who
were hiding in a cornfield threw tomatoes at a passing car (Lincoln or
<snip>
Calling hours for Keim will be from 6 to 8 p.m. Thursday and 2 to
4 p.m. and 6 to 8 p.m. Friday at East Union **Mennonite** Church,
10678 Old Lincoln Way. Funeral services will be at 10 a.m.
Umm, Mennonites are not Amish.
And a 23 year old man is not a kid, but murder is still murder.
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John Popelish
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| User: "Kronk" |
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05 Sep 2003 12:01:55 PM |
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On 05 Sep 2003 14:33:21 GMT, TCS
<The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote:
from rec.autos.driving
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 14:14:59 GMT, Anon Guy <AnonGuy@The.Basement.Cave> wrote:
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 07:03:24 -0700, Scott in Aztlan
<qinencnyn@lnubb.pbz> wrote:
Just heard this story on the Howard Stern Radio Show: a bunch of Amish kids who
were hiding in a cornfield threw tomatoes at a passing car (Lincoln or
Cadillac).
An Amish family that goes to a Mennonite church?
The driver got out and returned fire - with a shotgun. Now one of
those tomato-throwing punkasses is dead.
Let's hope the survivors learn a lesson and think twice before vandalizing other
vehicles...
I do hope the kids will stop throwing tomatoes at cars, but I also
hope the driver is found, convicted of murder, and put away for many
years.
K.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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05 Sep 2003 10:18:56 PM |
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On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:01:55 GMT, (Kronk) posted in
alt.atheism:
On 05 Sep 2003 14:33:21 GMT, TCS
<The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote:
from rec.autos.driving
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 14:14:59 GMT, Anon Guy <AnonGuy@The.Basement.Cave> wrote:
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 07:03:24 -0700, Scott in Aztlan
<qinencnyn@lnubb.pbz> wrote:
Just heard this story on the Howard Stern Radio Show: a bunch of Amish kids who
were hiding in a cornfield threw tomatoes at a passing car (Lincoln or
Cadillac).
An Amish family that goes to a Mennonite church?
You expect Howard to take the trouble to differentiate between Amish,
Mennonite, Anabaptist and any other sect he's not familiar with?
--
Zymurgist # 2
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "TCS" |
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05 Sep 2003 12:45:01 PM |
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On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:01:55 GMT, Kronk <void@isp.com> wrote:
On 05 Sep 2003 14:33:21 GMT, TCS
<The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote:
from rec.autos.driving
I do hope the kids will stop throwing tomatoes at cars, but I also
hope the driver is found, convicted of murder, and put away for many
years.
I don't. I consider daring somebody with a shotgun to shoot equal to
suicide.
Convict the driver of "assisted suicide" if you must convict him of
something.
Stupidity has always been a capital offense.
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| User: "Maverick" |
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06 Sep 2003 06:27:58 AM |
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"TCS" <The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote in message
news:slrnblhist.ei0.The.Central.Scrutinizer@turing.kaosol.net...
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:01:55 GMT, Kronk <void@isp.com> wrote:
On 05 Sep 2003 14:33:21 GMT, TCS
<The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote:
from rec.autos.driving
I do hope the kids will stop throwing tomatoes at cars, but I also
hope the driver is found, convicted of murder, and put away for many
years.
I don't. I consider daring somebody with a shotgun to shoot equal to
suicide.
Convict the driver of "assisted suicide" if you must convict him of
something.
Stupidity has always been a capital offense.
One does not shoot and kill people because they threw tomatos at one's car.
Well, unless one is a bit of a savage.
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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06 Sep 2003 07:43:13 AM |
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On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 13:27:58 +0200, Maverick wrote:
"TCS" <The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote in message
news:slrnblhist.ei0.The.Central.Scrutinizer@turing.kaosol.net...
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:01:55 GMT, Kronk <void@isp.com> wrote:
On 05 Sep 2003 14:33:21 GMT, TCS
<The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote:
from rec.autos.driving
I do hope the kids will stop throwing tomatoes at cars, but I also
hope the driver is found, convicted of murder, and put away for many
years.
I don't. I consider daring somebody with a shotgun to shoot equal to
suicide.
Convict the driver of "assisted suicide" if you must convict him of
something.
Stupidity has always been a capital offense.
One does not shoot and kill people because they threw tomatos at one's
car. Well, unless one is a bit of a savage.
Hm... there appears to be a stray "a bit of" that fell into your sentence.
Here, let me get that out of there.
One does not shoot and kill people because they threw tomatos at one's
car. Well, unless one is a savage.
There we go!
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Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "Liz" |
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05 Sep 2003 05:41:46 PM |
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On 05 Sep 2003 17:45:01 GMT, TCS
<The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> in news message
<slrnblhist.ei0.The.Central.Scrutinizer@turing.kaosol.net> wrote:
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:01:55 GMT, Kronk <void@isp.com> wrote:
On 05 Sep 2003 14:33:21 GMT, TCS
<The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote:
from rec.autos.driving
I do hope the kids will stop throwing tomatoes at cars, but I also
hope the driver is found, convicted of murder, and put away for many
years.
I don't. I consider daring somebody with a shotgun to shoot equal to
suicide.
Either you or Howard Stern has read much more into the story than what
actually happened. Yes, the kids were throwing tomatoes. Stupid, but
it is not a capital offense. OTOH, the man drove to get a shotgun,
returned to the corn field 25 minutes later, and drove past the kids
two more times. Nothing was thrown at the car after he returned.
Despite this, the man got out of the car and shot into the corn field
killing one young man.
http://www.the-daily-record.com/article.php?pathToFile=/archive/09032003/news/&file=_news1.txt&article=1
Convict the driver of "assisted suicide" if you must convict him of
something.
I assume that if he is located, the charge will be either premeditated
murder or reckless homicide. Any person who would deliberately take a
life on so little provocation is dangerous to society.
Stupidity has always been a capital offense.
You are wrong. President Bush is alive and well.
Liz #658 BAAWA
Get your facts first, and then you can distort them
as much as you please. -- Mark Twain
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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06 Sep 2003 06:35:38 PM |
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Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> thought hard and said:
Stupidity has always been a capital offense.
You are wrong. President Bush is alive and well.
Oh, no.
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-Kolle; 15 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, and Gustav Mahler are my Gods.
Madly Insane EAC Scientist.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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05 Sep 2003 10:20:29 PM |
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On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:41:46 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> posted in
alt.atheism:
On 05 Sep 2003 17:45:01 GMT, TCS
<The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> in news message
<slrnblhist.ei0.The.Central.Scrutinizer@turing.kaosol.net> wrote:
Stupidity has always been a capital offense.
You are wrong. President Bush is alive and well.
And is capitally offensive. :)
--
"Christians, it is needless to say, utterly detest each other. They slander each
other constantly with the vilest forms of abuse and cannot come to any sort of
agreement in their teachings. Each sect brands its own, fills the head of its own
with deceitful nonsense, and makes perfect little pigs of those it wins over to its
side."
- Celsus (2nd century C.E.)
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "TCS" |
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05 Sep 2003 10:41:49 PM |
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On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:41:46 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
On 05 Sep 2003 17:45:01 GMT, TCS
<The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> in news message
<slrnblhist.ei0.The.Central.Scrutinizer@turing.kaosol.net> wrote:
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:01:55 GMT, Kronk <void@isp.com> wrote:
On 05 Sep 2003 14:33:21 GMT, TCS
<The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote:
from rec.autos.driving
I do hope the kids will stop throwing tomatoes at cars, but I also
hope the driver is found, convicted of murder, and put away for many
years.
I don't. I consider daring somebody with a shotgun to shoot equal to
suicide.
Either you or Howard Stern has read much more into the story than what
actually happened. Yes, the kids were throwing tomatoes. Stupid, but
it is not a capital offense. OTOH, the man drove to get a shotgun,
returned to the corn field 25 minutes later, and drove past the kids
two more times. Nothing was thrown at the car after he returned.
Despite this, the man got out of the car and shot into the corn field
killing one young man.
Maybe the kids should have done what any sane person and run like
hell instead of continuing to taunt the madman.
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| User: "johac" |
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06 Sep 2003 02:12:16 AM |
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In article
<slrnblilrr.2ro.The.Central.Scrutinizer@linux.adamf625.kaosol.net>,
TCS <The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote:
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:41:46 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
On 05 Sep 2003 17:45:01 GMT, TCS
<The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> in news message
<slrnblhist.ei0.The.Central.Scrutinizer@turing.kaosol.net> wrote:
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:01:55 GMT, Kronk <void@isp.com> wrote:
On 05 Sep 2003 14:33:21 GMT, TCS
<The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote:
from rec.autos.driving
I do hope the kids will stop throwing tomatoes at cars, but I also
hope the driver is found, convicted of murder, and put away for many
years.
I don't. I consider daring somebody with a shotgun to shoot equal to
suicide.
Either you or Howard Stern has read much more into the story than what
actually happened. Yes, the kids were throwing tomatoes. Stupid, but
it is not a capital offense. OTOH, the man drove to get a shotgun,
returned to the corn field 25 minutes later, and drove past the kids
two more times. Nothing was thrown at the car after he returned.
Despite this, the man got out of the car and shot into the corn field
killing one young man.
Maybe the kids should have done what any sane person and run like
hell instead of continuing to taunt the madman.
I would make it a point not to taunt a person carrying a gun, unless I
were holding a bigger one. ;-)
--
John Hachmann, aa #1782
Pierre Laplace, when asked by Napoleon on why he made
no mention of a god in his book on astronomy: "Sire,
I have no need of that hypothesis."
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| User: "Liz" |
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06 Sep 2003 06:54:37 PM |
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On 06 Sep 2003 03:41:49 GMT, TCS
<The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> in news message
<slrnblilrr.2ro.The.Central.Scrutinizer@linux.adamf625.kaosol.net>
wrote:
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 22:41:46 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
On 05 Sep 2003 17:45:01 GMT, TCS
<The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> in news message
<slrnblhist.ei0.The.Central.Scrutinizer@turing.kaosol.net> wrote:
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:01:55 GMT, Kronk <void@isp.com> wrote:
On 05 Sep 2003 14:33:21 GMT, TCS
<The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote:
from rec.autos.driving
I do hope the kids will stop throwing tomatoes at cars, but I also
hope the driver is found, convicted of murder, and put away for many
years.
I don't. I consider daring somebody with a shotgun to shoot equal to
suicide.
Either you or Howard Stern has read much more into the story than what
actually happened. Yes, the kids were throwing tomatoes. Stupid, but
it is not a capital offense. OTOH, the man drove to get a shotgun,
returned to the corn field 25 minutes later, and drove past the kids
two more times. Nothing was thrown at the car after he returned.
Despite this, the man got out of the car and shot into the corn field
killing one young man.
Maybe the kids should have done what any sane person and run like
hell instead of continuing to taunt the madman.
According to the latests news stories, the motorist was the one doing
the taunting.
http://www.the-daily-record.com/article.php?pathToFile=/articles/news/&file=_news1.txt&article=1&tD=
http://www.the-daily-record.com/article.php?pathToFile=/articles/news/&file=_news2.txt&article=1&tD=
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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| User: "Kronk" |
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05 Sep 2003 03:27:57 PM |
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On 05 Sep 2003 17:45:01 GMT, TCS
<The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote:
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:01:55 GMT, Kronk <void@isp.com> wrote:
On 05 Sep 2003 14:33:21 GMT, TCS
<The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote:
from rec.autos.driving
I do hope the kids will stop throwing tomatoes at cars, but I also
hope the driver is found, convicted of murder, and put away for many
years.
I don't. I consider daring somebody with a shotgun to shoot equal to
suicide.
I saw nothing in the article that would suggest any of the kids
throwing tomatoes were wanting to die. Do you think the death penalty
is an appropriate punishment for throwing tomatoes?
And are people with guns to be regarded as blameless forces of nature
when they blow up at anyone they feel has slighted them? Is there
anything about going back to fetch a gun, returning to the scene,
challenging the kids to throw more tomatoes, and then opening fire on
them that does not sound like premeditation to you?
Kronk
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06 Sep 2003 06:34:20 PM |
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TCS <The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> thought hard and said:
<snip>
Heh heh heh. Fucking idiots.
--
-Kolle; 15 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, and Gustav Mahler are my Gods.
Madly Insane EAC Scientist.
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05 Sep 2003 10:59:12 AM |
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TCS <The.Central.Scrutinizer@p.o.b.o.x.com> wrote:
from rec.autos.driving
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 14:14:59 GMT, Anon Guy <AnonGuy@The.Basement.Cave> wrote:
On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 07:03:24 -0700, Scott in Aztlan
<qinencnyn@lnubb.pbz> wrote:
Just heard this story on the Howard Stern Radio Show: a bunch of Amish kids who
were hiding in a cornfield threw tomatoes at a passing car (Lincoln or
Cadillac). The driver got out and returned fire - with a shotgun. Now one of
those tomato-throwing punkasses is dead.
Let's hope the survivors learn a lesson and think twice before vandalizing other
vehicles...
REPOST
Akron Beacon Journal
Tue, Sep. 02, 2003
Enraged motorist kills prankster
Victim, 23, was hurling tomatoes at passing cars in Holmes County
By Sallie Cook
Special to the Beacon Journal
MOUNT HOPE - A motorist enraged by a group of young people
throwing tomatoes at his car killed a 23-year-old Apple Creek man
late Monday by firing a shotgun into a cornfield.
Steven L. Keim of Swinehart Road, and 11 others, ages 15 to 23,
were throwing tomatoes and firing paint balls at passing vehicles
along state Route 241, north of Mount Hope, said Nathan L. Fritz,
Holmes County sheriff's chief deputy.
Keim was the only one in the group of women and men who was
struck by shotgun pellets, Fritz said. None of the others, all from
Wayne and Holmes counties, was injured, he said.
Deputies have no suspects. The motorist is described as having a
medium build and is middle-aged by the sound of his voice, Fritz
said.
``There is no artificial light out there,'' Fritz said. ``They didn't
recognize him.''
The motorist, who was driving a light-colored Lincoln or Cadillac,
stopped, got out of the car and warned that he would shoot
whoever threw the tomatoes. The vehicle continued north for a
short distance, turned around and drove by the cornfield again. The
car was struck by tomatoes a second time.
The man yelled obscenities at the group and drove off, Fritz said.
About 25 minutes later, the car drove by the cornfield a third time,
stopped, and the motorist challenged the group to throw more
tomatoes. The motorist then grabbed a shotgun from his car and
fired it three to five times into the cornfield, striking Keim, who
was about 35 yards away. Four shell casings have been recovered,
Fritz said.
Keim ran about 20 yards back into the cornfield then collapsed,
Fritz said. One of his friends called police by cell phone.
According to witnesses, the car drove by the cornfield twice more
before it turned onto Township Road 616 and was not seen again,
Fritz said.
The shots were not random, said Fritz, but were directed to one
part of the cornfield.
Fritz said he did not know if the man planned to shoot Keim. All of
the group was hiding one or two rows back in the cornfield, Fritz
said. Neighbors heard the commotion and called deputies about
11:30 p.m. Keim was struck about 10 minutes later, Fritz said.
Fritz said deputies plan to reinterview the teens and young adults
today. ``Some had conflicting stories,'' he said.
Fritz said incidents of throwing tomatoes at cars often happen
during the fall. A sheriff's cruiser was struck by a tomato Sunday
night, he said.
``It's something that goes on and is hard to prevent,'' he said.
The Stark County Coroner's Office was to have conducted an
autopsy Tuesday afternoon. Preliminary results are expected today,
a spokeswoman said.
Calling hours for Keim will be from 6 to 8 p.m. Thursday and 2 to
4 p.m. and 6 to 8 p.m. Friday at East Union Mennonite Church,
What is calling hours?
10678 Old Lincoln Way. Funeral services will be at 10 a.m.
Saturday at the church. Burial will be at Erb Cemetery in East
Union Township.
Keim was a partner in Reroof Specialties of Apple Creek. He is
survived by parents Reuben I. and Gladys V. Keim; sisters Juanita
and Rosanna; and a brother, Merlin D. Keim, all of Apple Creek.
Spidell funeral home in Mount Eaton is handling arrangements.
http://www.ohio.com/mld/beaconjournal/6677011.htm
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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05 Sep 2003 10:18:01 PM |
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On 05 Sep 2003 15:59:12 GMT, Barry OGrady <barry@darkstar.example.net>
posted in alt.atheism:
Calling hours for Keim will be from 6 to 8 p.m. Thursday and 2 to
4 p.m. and 6 to 8 p.m. Friday at East Union Mennonite Church,
What is calling hours?
The hours during which one can visit the deceased at the funeral home.
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When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand
why I dismiss yours."
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| Title: Re: Evolution in action (Amish Road Rage) |
06 Sep 2003 08:43:41 AM |
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On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 03:18:01 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> in
news message <ndkilv8oecbeb8q6kpotnvlhp4jqpo7vaa@Pern.rk> wrote:
On 05 Sep 2003 15:59:12 GMT, Barry OGrady <barry@darkstar.example.net>
posted in alt.atheism:
Calling hours for Keim will be from 6 to 8 p.m. Thursday and 2 to
4 p.m. and 6 to 8 p.m. Friday at East Union Mennonite Church,
What is calling hours?
The hours during which one can visit the deceased at the funeral home.
It is a bizarre ritual of the indigenous natives of Ohio, where
instead of taking food and sympathy to the deceased's family, one
stands around the open casket of the recently dead person and makes
inane statements such as, "Doesn't he look good," and the closest
relative is forced to tell the story of just how he died to each
newcomer.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution in action (Amish Road Rage) |
06 Sep 2003 06:00:03 PM |
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On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 13:43:41 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> posted in
alt.atheism:
It is a bizarre ritual of the indigenous natives of Ohio, where
instead of taking food and sympathy to the deceased's family, one
stands around the open casket of the recently dead person and makes
inane statements such as, "Doesn't he look good," and the closest
relative is forced to tell the story of just how he died to each
newcomer.
They do that in NY too.
--
"...I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do.
When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand
why I dismiss yours."
- Stephen F. Roberts
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at optonline dot net
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution in action (Amish Road Rage) |
06 Sep 2003 06:47:48 PM |
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On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 23:00:03 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> in
news message <umpklvca36trn10sscnbr12is2p7qap9cd@Pern.rk> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 13:43:41 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> posted in
alt.atheism:
It is a bizarre ritual of the indigenous natives of Ohio, where
instead of taking food and sympathy to the deceased's family, one
stands around the open casket of the recently dead person and makes
inane statements such as, "Doesn't he look good," and the closest
relative is forced to tell the story of just how he died to each
newcomer.
They do that in NY too.
I didn't know how widespread the practice was. I've only attended
funerals locally. I find it distasteful and macabre. If anyone gets
the bright idea of displaying my dead body as a centerpiece, I'll come
back and get them.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution in action (Amish Road Rage) |
06 Sep 2003 08:24:41 PM |
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On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 23:47:48 +0000, Liz wrote:
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 23:00:03 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> in news
message <umpklvca36trn10sscnbr12is2p7qap9cd@Pern.rk> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 13:43:41 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> posted in
alt.atheism:
It is a bizarre ritual of the indigenous natives of Ohio, where instead
of taking food and sympathy to the deceased's family, one stands around
the open casket of the recently dead person and makes inane statements
such as, "Doesn't he look good," and the closest relative is forced to
tell the story of just how he died to each newcomer.
They do that in NY too.
I didn't know how widespread the practice was. I've only attended
funerals locally. I find it distasteful and macabre. If anyone gets the
bright idea of displaying my dead body as a centerpiece, I'll come back
and get them.
I tried to *tell them it was a bad idea! But would they settle for a nice
floral arrangement for the table? Noooo, they had to have something
different...
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Mark K. Bilbo
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution in action (Amish Road Rage) |
06 Sep 2003 08:38:37 PM |
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On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 20:24:41 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> in news message
<pan.2003.09.07.01.24.40.902716@eac.org> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 23:47:48 +0000, Liz wrote:
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 23:00:03 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> in news
message <umpklvca36trn10sscnbr12is2p7qap9cd@Pern.rk> wrote:
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 13:43:41 GMT, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> posted in
alt.atheism:
It is a bizarre ritual of the indigenous natives of Ohio, where instead
of taking food and sympathy to the deceased's family, one stands around
the open casket of the recently dead person and makes inane statements
such as, "Doesn't he look good," and the closest relative is forced to
tell the story of just how he died to each newcomer.
They do that in NY too.
I didn't know how widespread the practice was. I've only attended
funerals locally. I find it distasteful and macabre. If anyone gets the
bright idea of displaying my dead body as a centerpiece, I'll come back
and get them.
I tried to *tell them it was a bad idea! But would they settle for a nice
floral arrangement for the table? Noooo, they had to have something
different...
<SNORK!>
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution in action (Amish Road Rage) |
07 Sep 2003 07:24:59 PM |
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On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 20:24:41 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<iskanipa-y@hoo.com> posted in alt.atheism:
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 23:47:48 +0000, Liz wrote:
I didn't know how widespread the practice was. I've only attended
funerals locally. I find it distasteful and macabre. If anyone gets the
bright idea of displaying my dead body as a centerpiece, I'll come back
and get them.
I tried to *tell them it was a bad idea! But would they settle for a nice
floral arrangement for the table? Noooo, they had to have something
different...
I laughed so hard, Mark, that you brought tears to my eyes.
--
"To surrender to ignorance and call it God has always been premature, and it remains
premature today."
- Isaac Asimov
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Evolution in action (Amish Road Rage) |
07 Sep 2003 07:36:31 PM |
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On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 00:24:59 +0000, Al Klein wrote:
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 20:24:41 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <iskanipa-y@hoo.com>
posted in alt.atheism:
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 23:47:48 +0000, Liz wrote:
I didn't know how widespread the practice was. I've only attended
funerals locally. I find it distasteful and macabre. If anyone gets
the bright idea of displaying my dead body as a centerpiece, I'll come
back and get them.
I tried to *tell them it was a bad idea! But would they settle for a nice
floral arrangement for the table? Noooo, they had to have something
different...
I laughed so hard, Mark, that you brought tears to my eyes.
Ah, my good deed for the day. <heh>
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Mark K. Bilbo
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