| Topic: |
Religions > Atheism |
| User: |
"Freedom Fries" |
| Date: |
18 Jul 2005 12:07:51 AM |
| Object: |
Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
No word on when the religious jesus freaks in america will go to China to
kill the elephants to the destroy the evidence that contradicts their
pathetic illusions.
Tuskless elephants evolving in China due to poaching Sun Jul 17, 3:59 AM ET
BEIJING, July 17 (AFP) - A recent study has predicted that more male Asian
elephants in China will be born without tusks because poaching of tusked
elephants is reducing the gene pool, the China Daily reported Sunday.
The study, conducted in the Xishuangbanna Dai Autonomous Prefecture in
southwest China's Yunnan province, where two-thirds of China's Asian
elephants live, found that the tuskless phenomenon is spreading, the report
said.
The tusk-free gene, which is found in between two and five percent of male
Asian elephants, has increased to between five percent and 10 percent in
elephants in China, according to Zhang Li, an associate professor of zoology
at Beijing Normal University.
"This decrease in the number of elephants born with tusks shows the poaching
pressure for ivory on the animal," said Zhang, whose research team has been
studying elephants since 1999 at a reserve in Xishuangbanna.
Only male elephants have tusks, which are said to be a symbol of masculinity
and a weapon to fight for territory. However, due to poaching for ivory, the
elephants' pride has become a death sentence, the report said.
"The larger tusks the male elephant has, the more likely it will be shot by
poachers," said Zhang. "Therefore, the ones without tusks survive,
preserving the tuskless gene in the species."
A similar decline in elephants with tusks has been seen in Uganda, which
experienced heavy poaching in the 1970s and '80s, the report said.
However, Zhang's findings of the spread of the tuskless gene due to poaching
must be tested, according to some academics.
"This is, of course, a possibility, but till now there is no clear genetic
proof that it can occur," Vivek Menon, executive director of the Wildlife
Trust of India, was quoted as saying.
Rampant poaching of male elephants for tusks has also caused the
female-to-male ratio to rise from the ideal 2:1 to 4:1 in China and 100:1 in
India, the report said.
There are between 45,000 and 50,000 Asian elephants in 13 countries,
including China and India. China only has about 250, according to the
report.
China is among 160 nations which signed an international treaty administered
since 1989 banning the trade in ivory and products of other endangered
animals.
Nonetheless, four Asian elephants were found shot dead in China last year.
In addition to poaching, human activity that causes a loss of habitat also
threatens the animals.
.
|
|
| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
28 Jul 2005 06:35:31 PM |
|
|
In episode <42e8193b$0$27976$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>, VO burst
into the room and exclaimed:
"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:1122504106.858255.218990@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Fredric L. Rice wrote:
Most Christians accept the fact of evolution. It's only the truly
moronic, inbred, superstitious clods who think it some how says
something about their gods.
It's not what it says about their gods that makes Fundies fuss over
evolution. It's that the whole Fall-of-Man-Salvation equation doesn't
work out with evolution. These people (and I used to be one of them)
*must* feel that there's life after death, and that there's a Heaven for
them to go to. The fall apart at the notion that when you die, you're
dead. And if their Salvation Recipe is challenged, well, "Katey Bar The
Door," as my ex used to say.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
Another member of the Atheist and Evolution Church.
Which has the funniest habit of not existing.
You haven't the SLIGHTEST idea of what scripture states as is also the
case with most those who attend other churches called Christian.
Oh great, yet *another One, Absolute Truth.
You used to be NOTHING and still are. Don't brag about your ignorance of
all subjects at hand.
With friends like you, Christianity just doesn't need enemies does it?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
.
|
|
|
| User: "VO" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
28 Jul 2005 09:17:43 PM |
|
|
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:jKidnbjR_vpZ9nTfRVn-vw@megapath.net...
In episode <42e8193b$0$27976$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>, VO burst
into the room and exclaimed:
"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:1122504106.858255.218990@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Fredric L. Rice wrote:
Most Christians accept the fact of evolution. It's only the truly
moronic, inbred, superstitious clods who think it some how says
something about their gods.
It's not what it says about their gods that makes Fundies fuss over
evolution. It's that the whole Fall-of-Man-Salvation equation doesn't
work out with evolution. These people (and I used to be one of them)
*must* feel that there's life after death, and that there's a Heaven for
them to go to. The fall apart at the notion that when you die, you're
dead. And if their Salvation Recipe is challenged, well, "Katey Bar The
Door," as my ex used to say.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
Another member of the Atheist and Evolution Church.
Which has the funniest habit of not existing.
Religion is religion.
You haven't the SLIGHTEST idea of what scripture states as is also the
case with most those who attend other churches called Christian.
Oh great, yet *another One, Absolute Truth.
You used to be NOTHING and still are. Don't brag about your ignorance of
all subjects at hand.
With friends like you, Christianity just doesn't need enemies does it?
Define Christianity.
You thnk it is liars. Was that your primary function?
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
.
|
|
|
| User: "Robibnikoff" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
29 Jul 2005 04:10:30 AM |
|
|
"VO" <here@overthere.net> wrote in message
news:42e991ac$0$16395$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
snip
Define Christianity.
You thnk it is liars. Was that your primary function?
Could you try to make sense next time? Thanks so much.
--
------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
.
|
|
|
| User: "VO" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
29 Jul 2005 08:45:34 AM |
|
|
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3kua45FvtuisU1@individual.net...
"VO" <here@overthere.net> wrote in message
news:42e991ac$0$16395$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
snip
Define Christianity.
You thnk it is liars. Was that your primary function?
Could you try to make sense next time? Thanks so much.
Even with context it was WAY over your head.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
A VERY stupid statement.
Science does nothing.
Scientists (some call them doctors) kill several hundred thousand people
every year.
Scientists (I should say pseudo scientists who play in Universities and
can't make a dime) are responsible for the death of millions.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Robibnikoff" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
30 Jul 2005 12:06:36 PM |
|
|
"VO" <here@overthere.net> wrote in message
news:42ea32f4$0$3358$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3kua45FvtuisU1@individual.net...
"VO" <here@overthere.net> wrote in message
news:42e991ac$0$16395$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
snip
Define Christianity.
You thnk it is liars. Was that your primary function?
Could you try to make sense next time? Thanks so much.
Even with context it was WAY over your head.
Trying to make excuses for your horrendous grammar and spelling - how
pathetic.
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
A VERY stupid statement.
Science does nothing.
What an incredibly stupid thing to say. I initially thought you were just
an arrogant dipshit - Now I see you're an unbelievably stupid one as well.
BTW, did that computer you're using just magically appear?
Scientists (some call them doctors) kill several hundred thousand people
every year.
Scientists (I should say pseudo scientists who play in Universities and
can't make a dime) are responsible for the death of millions.
LOL! Prove it. Back up that assertion with evidence. I dare you.
I hope you remember what you wrote above should you ever find yourself in
need of surgery or some other life-saving medical treatment. Enjoy eating
your words.
--
------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
29 Jul 2005 10:23:16 AM |
|
|
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 06:45:34 -0700, "VO" <here@overthere.net> wrote:
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3kua45FvtuisU1@individual.net...
"VO" <here@overthere.net> wrote in message
news:42e991ac$0$16395$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
snip
Define Christianity.
You thnk it is liars. Was that your primary function?
Could you try to make sense next time? Thanks so much.
Even with context it was WAY over your head.
What do you expect to achieve by lying about atheists, to atheists?
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
A VERY stupid statement.
Science does nothing.
Scientists (some call them doctors) kill several hundred thousand people
every year.
But not on purpose. And they same millions more.
Scientists (I should say pseudo scientists who play in Universities and
can't make a dime) are responsible for the death of millions.
The only pseudoscientists are those in "fields" like creationism.
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
29 Jul 2005 06:33:09 AM |
|
|
In episode <3kua45FvtuisU1@individual.net>, Robibnikoff burst into the
room and exclaimed:
"VO" <here@overthere.net> wrote in message
news:42e991ac$0$16395$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
snip
Define Christianity.
You thnk it is liars. Was that your primary function?
Could you try to make sense next time? Thanks so much.
Don't hold your breath...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
.
|
|
|
| User: "Robibnikoff" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
29 Jul 2005 08:24:32 AM |
|
|
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:zv-dnTz8wpFojnffRVn-vg@megapath.net...
In episode <3kua45FvtuisU1@individual.net>, Robibnikoff burst into the
room and exclaimed:
"VO" <here@overthere.net> wrote in message
news:42e991ac$0$16395$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
snip
Define Christianity.
You thnk it is liars. Was that your primary function?
Could you try to make sense next time? Thanks so much.
Don't hold your breath...
Don't worry, didn't plan to ;)
--
------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "stoney" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
31 Jul 2005 11:13:57 AM |
|
|
On Fri, 29 Jul 2005 05:10:30 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"VO" <here@overthere.net> wrote in message
news:42e991ac$0$16395$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
snip
Define Christianity.
You thnk it is liars. Was that your primary function?
Could you try to make sense next time? Thanks so much.
It was receiving the next Holy SpurtŪ orally and the warped audio tape
was being updated.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
29 Jul 2005 06:32:59 AM |
|
|
In episode <42e991ac$0$16395$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>, VO burst
into the room and exclaimed:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:jKidnbjR_vpZ9nTfRVn-vw@megapath.net...
In episode <42e8193b$0$27976$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>, VO
burst into the room and exclaimed:
"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:1122504106.858255.218990@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Fredric L. Rice wrote:
Most Christians accept the fact of evolution. It's only the truly
moronic, inbred, superstitious clods who think it some how says
something about their gods.
It's not what it says about their gods that makes Fundies fuss over
evolution. It's that the whole Fall-of-Man-Salvation equation doesn't
work out with evolution. These people (and I used to be one of them)
*must* feel that there's life after death, and that there's a Heaven
for them to go to. The fall apart at the notion that when you die,
you're dead. And if their Salvation Recipe is challenged, well,
"Katey Bar The Door," as my ex used to say.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
Another member of the Atheist and Evolution Church.
Which has the funniest habit of not existing.
Religion is religion.
Even when it isn't huh?
You haven't the SLIGHTEST idea of what scripture states as is also the
case with most those who attend other churches called Christian.
Oh great, yet *another One, Absolute Truth.
You used to be NOTHING and still are. Don't brag about your ignorance
of all subjects at hand.
With friends like you, Christianity just doesn't need enemies does it?
Define Christianity.
You thnk it is liars. Was that your primary function?
People like you make me so glad I escaped Christianity...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
.
|
|
|
| User: "Robibnikoff" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
29 Jul 2005 08:25:25 AM |
|
|
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:zv-dnT38wpF2jnffRVn-vg@megapath.net...
In episode <42e991ac$0$16395$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>, VO burst
into the room and exclaimed:
snip
Define Christianity.
You thnk it is liars. Was that your primary function?
People like you make me so glad I escaped Christianity...
And make me thrilled that I was never involved with it at all. Whew! ;)
--
------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
.
|
|
|
| User: "VO" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
29 Jul 2005 08:48:17 AM |
|
|
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3kup45F109ev8U1@individual.net...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:zv-dnT38wpF2jnffRVn-vg@megapath.net...
In episode <42e991ac$0$16395$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>, VO
burst
into the room and exclaimed:
snip
Define Christianity.
You thnk it is liars. Was that your primary function?
People like you make me so glad I escaped Christianity...
And make me thrilled that I was never involved with it at all. Whew! ;)
--
------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
Of course like Alfred Newman, you say "Who me worry?"
You have demonstrated here many times that you have never been involved.
You are disconnected from all intellect.
.
|
|
|
| User: "Robibnikoff" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
30 Jul 2005 12:02:47 PM |
|
|
"VO" <here@overthere.net> wrote in message
news:42ea3397$0$3325$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3kup45F109ev8U1@individual.net...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:zv-dnT38wpF2jnffRVn-vg@megapath.net...
In episode <42e991ac$0$16395$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>, VO
burst
into the room and exclaimed:
snip
Define Christianity.
You thnk it is liars. Was that your primary function?
People like you make me so glad I escaped Christianity...
And make me thrilled that I was never involved with it at all. Whew! ;)
--
------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
Of course like Alfred Newman, you say "Who me worry?"
Wrong, dingleberry. The phrase was "What me worry". And why should I worry
about a myth?
You have demonstrated here many times that you have never been involved.
You are disconnected from all intellect.
And you are disconnected from all reality.
--
------
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
.
|
|
|
| User: "stoney" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
31 Jul 2005 11:18:33 AM |
|
|
On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:02:47 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
"VO" <here@overthere.net> wrote in message
news:42ea3397$0$3325$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com...
"Robibnikoff" <witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote in message
news:3kup45F109ev8U1@individual.net...
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:zv-dnT38wpF2jnffRVn-vg@megapath.net...
In episode <42e991ac$0$16395$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>, VO
burst
into the room and exclaimed:
snip
Define Christianity.
You thnk it is liars. Was that your primary function?
People like you make me so glad I escaped Christianity...
And make me thrilled that I was never involved with it at all. Whew! ;)
Of course like Alfred Newman, you say "Who me worry?"
Wrong, dingleberry. The phrase was "What me worry". And why should I worry
about a myth?
You have demonstrated here many times that you have never been involved.
You are disconnected from all intellect.
And you are disconnected from all reality.
Unfortunately not. It's iron lung is still functioning.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
29 Jul 2005 11:37:42 AM |
|
|
In episode <3kup45F109ev8U1@individual.net>, Robibnikoff burst into the
room and exclaimed:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote in message
news:zv-dnT38wpF2jnffRVn-vg@megapath.net...
In episode <42e991ac$0$16395$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>, VO
burst into the room and exclaimed:
snip
Define Christianity.
You thnk it is liars. Was that your primary function?
People like you make me so glad I escaped Christianity...
And make me thrilled that I was never involved with it at all. Whew! ;)
Trust me, I envy you...
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
Alt-atheism website at: http://www.alt-atheism.org
--------------------------------------------------
"Come to think of it, there are already a million
monkeys on a million typewriters, and the Usenet
is NOTHING like Shakespeare!" -- Blair Houghton
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "stoney" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
31 Jul 2005 11:12:59 AM |
|
|
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:35:31 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
In episode <42e8193b$0$27976$9a6e19ea@unlimited.newshosting.com>, VO burst
into the room and exclaimed:
"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:1122504106.858255.218990@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Fredric L. Rice wrote:
Most Christians accept the fact of evolution. It's only the truly
moronic, inbred, superstitious clods who think it some how says
something about their gods.
It's not what it says about their gods that makes Fundies fuss over
evolution. It's that the whole Fall-of-Man-Salvation equation doesn't
work out with evolution. These people (and I used to be one of them)
*must* feel that there's life after death, and that there's a Heaven for
them to go to. The fall apart at the notion that when you die, you're
dead. And if their Salvation Recipe is challenged, well, "Katey Bar The
Door," as my ex used to say.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
Another member of the Atheist and Evolution Church.
Which has the funniest habit of not existing.
You haven't the SLIGHTEST idea of what scripture states as is also the
case with most those who attend other churches called Christian.
Oh great, yet *another One, Absolute Truth.
You used to be NOTHING and still are. Don't brag about your ignorance of
all subjects at hand.
With friends like you, Christianity just doesn't need enemies does it?
Christianity generates them in house. Amazing (sarcasm) how common
Christians and morality are diametric opposites.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "John Baker" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
28 Jul 2005 02:26:19 AM |
|
|
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 16:31:15 -0700, "VO" <here@overthere.net> wrote:
"skyeyes" <skyeyes@dakotacom.net> wrote in message
news:1122504106.858255.218990@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Fredric L. Rice wrote:
Most Christians accept the fact of evolution. It's only the
truly moronic, inbred, superstitious clods who think it some
how says something about their gods.
It's not what it says about their gods that makes Fundies fuss over
evolution. It's that the whole Fall-of-Man-Salvation equation doesn't
work out with evolution. These people (and I used to be one of them)
*must* feel that there's life after death, and that there's a Heaven
for them to go to. The fall apart at the notion that when you die,
you're dead. And if their Salvation Recipe is challenged, well, "Katey
Bar The Door," as my ex used to say.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
Another member of the Atheist and Evolution Church.
You haven't the SLIGHTEST idea of what scripture states as is also the case
with most those who attend other churches called Christian.
You used to be NOTHING and still are. Don't brag about your ignorance of
all subjects at hand.
Shut the ***** up, moron.
And for your own sake, don't mistake my bluntness for stupidity.
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "skyeyes" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
28 Jul 2005 07:00:39 PM |
|
|
VO wrote:
Another member of the Atheist and Evolution Church.
Actually, I don't belong to *any* church.
You haven't the SLIGHTEST idea of what scripture states as is also the case
with most those who attend other churches called Christian.
Actually, I know the Bible quite well. I read it through the first
time when I was 8 years old, and once a year after that until I was
well into my 20s. I've read it in German, Spanish, and Greek, and I
own several different English translations.
Wanna play "find the Bible verse" with me? Have a "sword drill?"
You used to be NOTHING and still are.
Oh, the typical Christian love. Actually, I used to be a born-again
fundamentalist Christian. I was there and you weren't, and you don't
have a *clue* about what I was or wasn't.
Don't brag about your ignorance of all subjects at hand.
You're showing *yourself* to be ignornant, as you don't seem to realize
that there are non-believers who used to *be* believers. Whatsamatta,
does that scare you or something? Your vitriol seems to indicate that.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "stoney" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
27 Jul 2005 05:35:32 PM |
|
|
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 04:44:57 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On 17 Jul 2005 22:32:38 -0700, "fred" <clarma1@gmail.com> wrote:
The only reason that some Christians reject evolution concepts is because
they're terminally ignorant and dishonest.
Most Christians accept the fact of evolution. It's only the
truly moronic, inbred, superstitious clods who think it some
how says something about their gods.
Of which the numbers in the US is truley horrifying.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
|
|
|
| User: "Fredric L. Rice" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
28 Jul 2005 01:24:30 AM |
|
|
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 04:44:57 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On 17 Jul 2005 22:32:38 -0700, "fred" <clarma1@gmail.com> wrote:
The only reason that some Christians reject evolution concepts is because
they're terminally ignorant and dishonest.
Most Christians accept the fact of evolution. It's only the
truly moronic, inbred, superstitious clods who think it some
how says something about their gods.
Of which the numbers in the US is truley horrifying.
It's a mixed blessing. The sons and daughters of people who actually
work to give their children an education won't have to compete in the
job market against the sons and daughters of the willfully ignorant.
---
http://www.ElmerFudd.US/ http://www.notserver.com/
http://sf.irk.ru/www/ot3/otiii-gif.html
http://www.rightard.org/ http://www.thedarkwind.org/
.
|
|
|
| User: "stoney" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
31 Jul 2005 11:11:25 AM |
|
|
On Thu, 28 Jul 2005 06:24:30 GMT, (Fredric L.
Rice) wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 04:44:57 GMT, (Fredric L. Rice) wrote:
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On 17 Jul 2005 22:32:38 -0700, "fred" <clarma1@gmail.com> wrote:
The only reason that some Christians reject evolution concepts is because
they're terminally ignorant and dishonest.
Most Christians accept the fact of evolution. It's only the
truly moronic, inbred, superstitious clods who think it some
how says something about their gods.
Of which the numbers in the US is truley horrifying.
It's a mixed blessing. The sons and daughters of people who actually
work to give their children an education won't have to compete in the
job market against the sons and daughters of the willfully ignorant.
As, iirc, Tennesee or Talibama discovered when Toyota built the plant
in Canada.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president
represents, more and more closely, the inner soul
of the people. On some great and glorious day the
plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned
by a downright moron." --- H.L. Mencken (1880 - 1956)
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
.
|
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "John Popelish" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
18 Jul 2005 10:08:05 AM |
|
|
fred wrote:
(snip)
But I will also note
that the more recent scientific concern of irreducible complexity
throws a monkey wrench into evolution concepts anyway.
(snip)
*****. It has been explained to you that this is not at all the
case. Why do you keep repeating this lie?
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Chris H. Fleming" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
18 Jul 2005 02:18:45 PM |
|
|
fred wrote:
Freedom Fries wrote:
No word on when the religious jesus freaks in america will go to China to
kill the elephants to the destroy the evidence that contradicts their
pathetic illusions.
I wouldn't stereotype Christians like you are doing. The only reason
that some Christians reject evolution concepts is because of the
informal belief among some atheist/evolutionists that there is no God
and all life happened by random chance. However, as Genesis 1 doesn't
detail how God created life, who's to say that God didn't employ some
evolution concepts when he created life on earth? But I will also note
that the more recent scientific concern of irreducible complexity
throws a monkey wrench into evolution concepts anyway.
There is no "recent scientific concern of irreducible complexity"
There is no scientific definition of "irreducible complexity"
There is no such thing as "irreducible complexity" in this context. The
idea in and of itself doesn't even make any sense. To make something
irreducibly complex in the physical world you have to make the
construction process a thermodynamically irreversable process forward
in time, i.e. god would have to had made everything backwards in time
.... like unbaking a cookie into cookie dough. But guess what? For very
blatant (ok well I admit it's subtle for those not versed in
thermodynamics, but just think about it) reasons that is absolutely
retarded. Any other concept of irreducible complexity can't even fufill
it's very purpose.
Either you are a liar or you have been lied to. I hope for the sake of
your soul it is the latter only.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "bob young" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
18 Jul 2005 06:22:02 AM |
|
|
fred wrote:
Freedom Fries wrote:
No word on when the religious jesus freaks in america will go to China to
kill the elephants to the destroy the evidence that contradicts their
pathetic illusions.
I wouldn't stereotype Christians like you are doing. The only reason
that some Christians reject evolution concepts is because of the
informal belief among some atheist/evolutionists that there is no God
and all life happened by random chance. However, as Genesis 1 doesn't
detail how God created life, who's to say that God didn't employ some
evolution concepts when he created life on earth? But I will also note
that the more recent scientific concern of irreducible complexity
throws a monkey wrench into evolution concepts anyway.
You try to use 'up to date' modern discovery to doubt evolution but the
creationalist theory came from primitives that thought god was just above the
clouds, Hell was below your feet and the world was flat.
The Christian bible talks of their god creating everything in 4004 BC and one
enterprising Archbishop [James Ussher] even put an actual date on it - 9 a.m.
October 3rd.
Evolution brought us here then man crated his god, and, silly him, he made that
god in his own image. Evolution made one big mistake by allowing man to become
so arrogant.
John 3:16
Revelation 3:20
Tuskless elephants evolving in China due to poaching Sun Jul 17, 3:59 AM ET
BEIJING, July 17 (AFP) - A recent study has predicted that more male Asian
elephants in China will be born without tusks because poaching of tusked
elephants is reducing the gene pool, the China Daily reported Sunday.
The study, conducted in the Xishuangbanna Dai Autonomous Prefecture in
southwest China's Yunnan province, where two-thirds of China's Asian
elephants live, found that the tuskless phenomenon is spreading, the report
said.
The tusk-free gene, which is found in between two and five percent of male
Asian elephants, has increased to between five percent and 10 percent in
elephants in China, according to Zhang Li, an associate professor of zoology
at Beijing Normal University.
"This decrease in the number of elephants born with tusks shows the poaching
pressure for ivory on the animal," said Zhang, whose research team has been
studying elephants since 1999 at a reserve in Xishuangbanna.
Only male elephants have tusks, which are said to be a symbol of masculinity
and a weapon to fight for territory. However, due to poaching for ivory, the
elephants' pride has become a death sentence, the report said.
"The larger tusks the male elephant has, the more likely it will be shot by
poachers," said Zhang. "Therefore, the ones without tusks survive,
preserving the tuskless gene in the species."
A similar decline in elephants with tusks has been seen in Uganda, which
experienced heavy poaching in the 1970s and '80s, the report said.
However, Zhang's findings of the spread of the tuskless gene due to poaching
must be tested, according to some academics.
"This is, of course, a possibility, but till now there is no clear genetic
proof that it can occur," Vivek Menon, executive director of the Wildlife
Trust of India, was quoted as saying.
Rampant poaching of male elephants for tusks has also caused the
female-to-male ratio to rise from the ideal 2:1 to 4:1 in China and 100:1 in
India, the report said.
There are between 45,000 and 50,000 Asian elephants in 13 countries,
including China and India. China only has about 250, according to the
report.
China is among 160 nations which signed an international treaty administered
since 1989 banning the trade in ivory and products of other endangered
animals.
Nonetheless, four Asian elephants were found shot dead in China last year.
In addition to poaching, human activity that causes a loss of habitat also
threatens the animals.
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
18 Jul 2005 06:44:22 AM |
|
|
fred wrote:
The only reason
that some Christians reject evolution concepts is because of the
informal belief among some atheist/evolutionists that there is no God
and all life happened by random chance.
Do you really believe that's the only reason?
Sort of an "I know you are but what am I?" dogma?
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Unlimited Eddie" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
18 Jul 2005 08:43:04 PM |
|
|
Hmmm
the Bible tells us to take Dominance over all animals
..
Gen 1:27 So God created man in his own image, in the image of God
created he him; male and female created he them.
Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful,
and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion
over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every
living thing that moveth upon the earth.
thats why we eat meat poopsie
.
|
|
|
|
| User: "Uncle Buck" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
18 Jul 2005 09:44:10 PM |
|
|
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 01:07:51 -0400, "Freedom Fries"
<RedumblicansShouldBe@gaschambers.com> wrote:
"The larger tusks the male elephant has, the more likely it will be shot by
poachers," said Zhang. "Therefore, the ones without tusks survive,
preserving the tuskless gene in the species."
Is there actually a "tuskless gene", or is tusklessness simply the
absence of a "tusk" gene? It seems like the presence of tusks would
require more genetic encoding than their absence. :-?
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
\~------------0-0-0-O-o*O*o*O*o-O-0-0-0------------~/
There are two main things we must concern ourselves
with in life: Our "to Do" list and our "do-do" list.
/~------------0-0-0-O-o*O*o*O*o-O-0-0-0------------~\
.
|
|
|
| User: "Marinus van der Lubbe" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
18 Jul 2005 09:33:40 PM |
|
|
Uncle Buck wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 01:07:51 -0400, "Freedom Fries"
<RedumblicansShouldBe@gaschambers.com> wrote:
"The larger tusks the male elephant has, the more likely it will be shot by
poachers," said Zhang. "Therefore, the ones without tusks survive,
preserving the tuskless gene in the species."
Is there actually a "tuskless gene", or is tusklessness simply the
absence of a "tusk" gene? It seems like the presence of tusks would
require more genetic encoding than their absence. :-?
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
\~------------0-0-0-O-o*O*o*O*o-O-0-0-0------------~/
There are two main things we must concern ourselves
with in life: Our "to Do" list and our "do-do" list.
/~------------0-0-0-O-o*O*o*O*o-O-0-0-0------------~\
Happened in Africa, too.
http://www.gaiabooks.co.uk/environment/elephants_tuskless.html
.
|
|
|
|
|
| User: "Franklin Bratcher" |
|
| Title: Re: Evolution in Action in China, Tuskless Elephants |
19 Jul 2005 04:29:59 AM |
|
|
On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 01:07:51 -0400, "Freedom Fries"
<RedumblicansShouldBe@gaschambers.com> wrote:
No word on when the religious jesus freaks in america will go to China to
kill the elephants to the destroy the evidence that contradicts their
pathetic illusions.
I'd be more impressed if the elephant's evolved something they didn't
have before.... as opposed to a response to the culling of the herds
by man. You know, empty out the tusk genepool, giving rise more and
more to any elephant bearing the tuskless gene. Happened with man too,
during the Black Death in europe, with the Delta32 gene.
.
|
|
|
|

|
Related Articles |
|
|