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25 Apr 2004 11:02:31 AM |
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"Evolution Is A Religion" |
"Evolution Is A Religion"
"Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science.
Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion-a full-fledged
alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality..EVOLUTION IS A
RELIGION. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of
evolution today." Michael Ruse, "Saving Darwinism from the Darwinians,"
National Post (May 13, 2000), p. B-3.
Ruse is a Darwinian philosopher and ardent atheist. Here he lets down the
curtain so many atheists proclaim that evolution is "science" instead of
religion.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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25 Apr 2004 11:32:57 AM |
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"IDon'tKnowShit", aka "Y(ammering)M(oron)1" <IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com>
scratched his head mightily and managed to come up with....absolutely
nothing of any value.
<snip sheer idiocy>
IDon'tKnowShit, if not for the fact that I'm pretty sure you've already
been at the absolute nadir of stupidity for quite some time now, I'd swear
you're getting dumber with every post. Why don't you do us all a favor,
especially yourself, and take your silly ***** on out of alt.atheism?
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"The simple believeth every word."
~ Proverbs 14:15 ~
aa #1898
BAAWA Keeper of the Holy Hand Grenade
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| User: "Tom" |
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25 Apr 2004 01:58:03 PM |
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"IKnowHimDoYou" <IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote in message
news:IKnowHim-2504040902310001@pm1-39.kalama.com...
"Evolution Is A Religion"
"Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science.
Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion-a full-fledged
alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality..EVOLUTION IS A
RELIGION. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of
evolution today." Michael Ruse, "Saving Darwinism from the Darwinians,"
National Post (May 13, 2000), p. B-3.
Ruse is a Darwinian philosopher and ardent atheist. Here he lets down the
curtain so many atheists proclaim that evolution is "science" instead of
religion.
Yep, he said that and followed that in the same speech with this ending and
he is absolutely right:
"For pointing this out we should be grateful for the opponents of evolution.
The Creationists are wrong in their Creationism, but they are right in at
least one of their criticisms. Evolution, Darwinian evolution, is wonderful
science. Let us teach it to our children. And, in the classroom, let us
leave it at that. The moral messages, the underlying ideology, may be
worthy. But if we feel strongly, there are other times and places to preach
that gospel to the world.
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| User: "Dave Oldridge" |
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| Title: Re: "Evolution Is A Religion" |
25 Apr 2004 01:40:35 PM |
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(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote in
news:IKnowHim-2504040902310001@pm1-39.kalama.com:
"Evolution Is A Religion"
"Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science.
Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion-a
full-fledged alternative to Christianity, with meaning and
morality..EVOLUTION IS A RELIGION. This was true of evolution in the
beginning, and it is true of evolution today." Michael Ruse, "Saving
Darwinism from the Darwinians," National Post (May 13, 2000), p. B-3.
Ruse is a Darwinian philosopher and ardent atheist. Here he lets down
the curtain so many atheists proclaim that evolution is "science"
instead of religion.
Ruse does have a certain point. That is, certain atheist ideologists
have made much of the fact that evolution does not make any explicit
mention of God. But they really only do so because certain cultists,
mostly of a latter-day stripe from sects minted in the 19th and 20th
centuries in America, have been claiming that if evolution is real, then
Christianity is false. This claim is, to any traditional Christian,
heretical because WE claim that no matter what is scientifically true,
Jesus Christ is the Son of God, died for our sins, rose from the dead and
is our saviour. We claim that this is true even if evolution is a proven
fact. But you see, heretics like IKnowNothing have determined in their
hearts that their envy of those who do science is more important than
following the teachings of Jesus Christ and the Church fathers. For
them, it is more important to vaunt their own cult's private
interpretation of scripture over reality itself than it is to actually
seek truth.
They are heretics, in the original and biblical meaning of the word,
teaching false doctrines to anyone who will listen to them.
--
Rev. Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
Paradoxically, most real events are highly improbable.
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| User: "Thore Schmechtig" |
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25 Apr 2004 12:50:48 PM |
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"Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science.
Every person with a double-digit IQ, of course, realizes that this is
just the living chicken tract I-know-***** again, babbling his
propaganda like his cult Führer ordered him to.
12 - 9 = ?
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| User: "SReeseMe" |
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25 Apr 2004 12:35:36 PM |
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Subject: "Evolution Is A Religion"
From: (IKnowHimDoYou)
Date: 04/25/2004 12:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time
Message-id: <IKnowHim-2504040902310001@pm1-39.kalama.com>
"Evolution Is A Religion"
"Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science.
Okay, I give how are they "practitioners" of evolution? "Gee today I'll see if
I can't randomly grow another arm or two?"
Idiot.
Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion-a full-fledged
alternative to Christianity,
No. Simply not true. However fundie wackos try to promulgate their theology
as science.
with meaning and morality..EVOLUTION IS A
RELIGION.
Only theist wackos would look at a branch of science and try to derive meaning
and morality to it.
So who's theory of gravity is morality superior? Newton's or Einsteins?
Cretin!
This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of
evolution today."
Only in the minds of theists who are incapable of viewing the world without
looking thru their religous beliefs.
Michael Ruse, "Saving Darwinism from the Darwinians,"
National Post (May 13, 2000), p. B-3.
Amazingly enough all the fundie morality nazis that view science as evil never
seem to view taking quotes out of context (a.k.a. lying) to be a sin. Curious
that.
Ruse is a Darwinian philosopher and ardent atheist. Here he lets down the
curtain so many atheists proclaim that evolution is "science" instead of
religion.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Geez put the fucking bible down pick up a science text book once and a while.
-Stephen
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| User: "bob young" |
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25 Apr 2004 08:47:09 PM |
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IKnowHimDoYou wrote:
"Evolution Is A Religion"
"Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science.
Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion-a full-fledged
alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality..EVOLUTION IS A
RELIGION. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of
evolution today." Michael Ruse, "Saving Darwinism from the Darwinians,"
National Post (May 13, 2000), p. B-3.
Ruse is a Darwinian philosopher and ardent atheist. Here he lets down the
curtain so many atheists proclaim that evolution is "science" instead of
religion.
nitwit
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| User: "Nivlem" |
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25 Apr 2004 11:33:11 AM |
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IKnowHimDoYou wrote:
"Evolution Is A Religion"
"Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science.
Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion-a full-fledged
alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality..EVOLUTION IS A
RELIGION. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of
evolution today." Michael Ruse, "Saving Darwinism from the Darwinians,"
National Post (May 13, 2000), p. B-3.
Ruse is a Darwinian philosopher and ardent atheist. Here he lets down the
curtain so many atheists proclaim that evolution is "science" instead of
religion.
Lets down HIS curtain. That is by no means a typical view. Show me where
the Church of Evolution holds its services, retard.
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| User: "IKnowHimDoYou" |
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25 Apr 2004 11:51:22 AM |
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In article <408BE847.3030800@svn.net>, Nivlem <mlml@svn.net> wrote:
IKnowHimDoYou wrote:
"Evolution Is A Religion"
"Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science.
Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion-a full-fledged
alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality..EVOLUTION IS A
RELIGION. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of
evolution today." Michael Ruse, "Saving Darwinism from the Darwinians,"
National Post (May 13, 2000), p. B-3.
Ruse is a Darwinian philosopher and ardent atheist. Here he lets down the
curtain so many atheists proclaim that evolution is "science" instead of
religion.
Lets down HIS curtain. That is by no means a typical view. Show me where
the Church of Evolution holds its services, retard.
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The public schools,
the universities,
the Unitarian Church,
the RCC,
the democrat party HQ.
the communist party HQ
the humanist HQ
most newspapers,
the media(TV, magazines)
Hollywood
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| User: "Dave Oldridge" |
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25 Apr 2004 01:47:43 PM |
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(IKnowHimDoYou) wrote in
news:IKnowHim-2504040951220001@pm1-39.kalama.com:
In article <408BE847.3030800@svn.net>, Nivlem <mlml@svn.net> wrote:
IKnowHimDoYou wrote:
"Evolution Is A Religion"
"Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere
science. Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular
religion-a full-fledged alternative to Christianity, with meaning
and morality..EVOLUTION IS A RELIGION. This was true of evolution
in the beginning, and it is true of evolution today." Michael Ruse,
"Saving Darwinism from the Darwinians," National Post (May 13,
2000), p. B-3.
Ruse is a Darwinian philosopher and ardent atheist. Here he lets
down the curtain so many atheists proclaim that evolution is
"science" instead of religion.
Lets down HIS curtain. That is by no means a typical view. Show me
where the Church of Evolution holds its services, retard.
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The public schools,
the universities,
the Unitarian Church,
the RCC,
the democrat party HQ.
the communist party HQ
the humanist HQ
most newspapers,
the media(TV, magazines)
Hollywood
In other words, everyone in the whole wide world except a few nutcase
cults like your own. But PLEASE don't expect to call your false religion
"Christianity" in front of me and to not be challenged on that. We
Christians like to try to actually follow the teachings of Jesus Christ
and that would include His injunction (reiterating the commandment given
to Moses) against bearing false witness. Which is what you do every time
you try to pretend that the SCIENCE of evolutionary biology is a religion
(probably in the vain hope that you can get some jurist to agree and ban
it from the schools on the same grounds that your cult is banned from
teaching its heresy there).
But then, you see, society is not REQUIRED to join your cult in order for
YOU to practice it wherever you go to swap lies on Sunday. (I presume
that's what you do, since so much of your "religion" seems to consist of
lying about people you don't even know).
--
Rev. Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667
Paradoxically, most real events are highly improbable.
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| User: "Nivlem" |
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| Title: Re: "Evolution Is A Religion" |
25 Apr 2004 03:25:02 PM |
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IKnowHimDoYou wrote:
In article <408BE847.3030800@svn.net>, Nivlem <mlml@svn.net> wrote:
IKnowHimDoYou wrote:
"Evolution Is A Religion"
"Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science.
Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion-a full-fledged
alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality..EVOLUTION IS A
RELIGION. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of
evolution today." Michael Ruse, "Saving Darwinism from the Darwinians,"
National Post (May 13, 2000), p. B-3.
Ruse is a Darwinian philosopher and ardent atheist. Here he lets down the
curtain so many atheists proclaim that evolution is "science" instead of
religion.
Lets down HIS curtain. That is by no means a typical view. Show me where
the Church of Evolution holds its services, retard.
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The public schools,
the universities,
the Unitarian Church,
the RCC,
the democrat party HQ.
the communist party HQ
the humanist HQ
most newspapers,
the media(TV, magazines)
Hollywood
Er, small point of order here. Other than the Unitarian Church and the
RCC, none of these things is actually a church. It's quality thinking
like that that earns you my utmost contempt, and the contempt of many
others. You will also note that there is not one mention of Darwin in
the services of those organizations you mentioned that actually are
churches. Let me repeat. You are a retard.
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| User: "TCS" |
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25 Apr 2004 12:28:39 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:51:22 -0700, IKnowHimDoYou <IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote:
In article <408BE847.3030800@svn.net>, Nivlem <mlml@svn.net> wrote:
IKnowHimDoYou wrote:
"Evolution Is A Religion"
"Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science.
Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion-a full-fledged
alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality..EVOLUTION IS A
RELIGION. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of
evolution today." Michael Ruse, "Saving Darwinism from the Darwinians,"
National Post (May 13, 2000), p. B-3.
Ruse is a Darwinian philosopher and ardent atheist. Here he lets down the
curtain so many atheists proclaim that evolution is "science" instead of
religion.
Lets down HIS curtain. That is by no means a typical view. Show me where
the Church of Evolution holds its services, retard.
________________________________________________________________
The public schools,
the universities,
the Unitarian Church,
the RCC,
the democrat party HQ.
the communist party HQ
the humanist HQ
most newspapers,
the media(TV, magazines)
Hollywood
and everywhere else including nature, the science lab, and your
attrophied brain and rotting intestines.
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| User: "G O D S - C R E A T O R" |
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27 Apr 2004 12:55:45 AM |
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IKnowHimDoYou wrote:
"Evolution Is A Religion"
"Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science.
Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion-a full-fledged
alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality..EVOLUTION IS A
RELIGION. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of
evolution today." Michael Ruse, "Saving Darwinism from the Darwinians,"
National Post (May 13, 2000), p. B-3.
Ruse is a Darwinian philosopher and ardent atheist. Here he lets down the
curtain so many atheists proclaim that evolution is "science" instead of
religion.
Thus Spake God's Creator; (I don't forgive *****!)
Evolution is simple common sense...
NOTE:
Notice how much uglier you are than your Grandfather.
Now, can you imagine what your descendants will look like
a million years from now... (SCARY, frightening, ugh!).
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GOD'S CREATION ( My only sin... )
Wise men study the unknown, and boldly seeks answers !
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling...
Today's Terrorists News:
http://www.antiwar.com/
Today's U.S. Terrorists:
http://www.dbr.nu/noin/rogues.html
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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27 Apr 2004 03:10:53 AM |
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 05:55:45 GMT, G O D 'S - C R E A T
O R <The_Real_God@Go.Com> spake thusly:
IKnowHimDoYou wrote:
"Evolution Is A Religion"
"Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science.
Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion-a full-fledged
alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality..EVOLUTION IS A
RELIGION. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of
evolution today." Michael Ruse, "Saving Darwinism from the Darwinians,"
National Post (May 13, 2000), p. B-3.
Ruse is a Darwinian philosopher and ardent atheist. Here he lets down the
curtain so many atheists proclaim that evolution is "science" instead of
religion.
Thus Spake God's Creator; (I don't forgive *****!)
Evolution is simple common sense...
NOTE:
Notice how much uglier you are than your Grandfather.
Microevolution. A fact of science.
Now, can you imagine what your descendants will look like
a million years from now... (SCARY, frightening, ugh!).
And there it is folks. This is the pile of evidence
that they have for macroevolution (goo to you)...
"IMAGINE"
They give us an example of humans staying human and
then tell us to "imagine" the rest.
--
± Pastor Dave Raymond ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
WARNING: Exposure to the Son may prevent burning!
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| User: "The Watcher" |
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27 Apr 2004 01:56:50 PM |
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 04:10:53 -0400, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
(snip)
Microevolution. A fact of science.
Microevolution=evolution. A fact of science. Maybe you should stick to talking
with sheep. ;)
Now, can you imagine what your descendants will look like
a million years from now... (SCARY, frightening, ugh!).
And there it is folks. This is the pile of evidence
that they have for macroevolution (goo to you)...
The pile of evidence for evolution(macroevolution is a creationist straw man) is
much bigger(and much more visible) than the evidence for ANY god(s).
"IMAGINE"
They give us an example of humans staying human and
then tell us to "imagine" the rest.
Got ANY credible evidence for the existence of any gods? ;)
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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29 Apr 2004 01:14:27 PM |
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:56:50 GMT, don'tgo@there.com
(The Watcher) spake thusly:
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 04:10:53 -0400, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
(snip)
Microevolution. A fact of science.
Microevolution=evolution. A fact of science. Maybe you should stick to
talking with sheep. ;)
Now, can you imagine what your descendants will look like
a million years from now... (SCARY, frightening, ugh!).
And there it is folks. This is the pile of evidence
that they have for macroevolution (goo to you)...
The pile of evidence for evolution(macroevolution is a creationist
straw man) is much bigger(and much more visible) than the evidence for
ANY god(s).
You wish it were a straw man. I didn't invent the
word. The fact is, you cannot show one shred of
evidence for it and I knew you would try to dodge that
simple fact, this way.
"IMAGINE"
They give us an example of humans staying human and
then tell us to "imagine" the rest.
Got ANY credible evidence for the existence of any gods? ;)
Thank you for proving once again, that you believe only
because you reject God and not because of any "facts".
Also, the answer to your question is NO I don't need any evidence
credible or otherwise, I just believe what the Bible says and that is all
I need.
--
± Pastor Dave ±
"The descendants of Ham were marked especially for secular service to
mankind. Indeed they were to be 'servants of servants,' that is 'servants
extraordinary!' Although only Canaan is mentioned specifically (possibly
because the branch of Ham's family through Canaan would later come into
most direct contact with Israel), the whole family of Ham is in view. The
prophecy is worldwide in scope and, since Shem and Japheth are covered,
all Ham's descendants must be also. These include all nations which are
neither Semitic nor Japhetic. Thus, all of the earth's 'colored' races,--
yellow, red, brown, and black--essentially the Afro-Asian group of
peoples, including the American Indians--are possibly Hamitic in origin
and included within the scope of the Canaanitic prophecy, as well as the
Egyptians, Sumerians, Hittites, and Phoenicians of antiquity. "
The Beginning Of the World by Dr. Henry Morris
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
It is often argued that religion is valuable because it makes men good,
but even if this were true it would not be a proof that religion is true.
That would be an extension of pragmatism beyond endurance. Santa Claus
makes children good in precisely the same way, and yet no one would argue
seriously that the fact proves his existence. The defense of religion is
full of such logical imbecilities."
Mencken
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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28 Apr 2004 05:26:23 PM |
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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:56:50 GMT, don'tgo@there.com
(The Watcher) spake thusly:
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 04:10:53 -0400, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
(snip)
Microevolution. A fact of science.
Microevolution=evolution. A fact of science. Maybe you should stick to talking
with sheep. ;)
Now, can you imagine what your descendants will look like
a million years from now... (SCARY, frightening, ugh!).
And there it is folks. This is the pile of evidence
that they have for macroevolution (goo to you)...
The pile of evidence for evolution(macroevolution is a creationist straw man) is
much bigger(and much more visible) than the evidence for ANY god(s).
You wish it were a straw man. I didn't invent the
word. The fact is, you cannot show one shred of
evidence for it and I knew you would try to dodge that
simple fact, this way.
"IMAGINE"
They give us an example of humans staying human and
then tell us to "imagine" the rest.
Got ANY credible evidence for the existence of any gods? ;)
Thank you for proving once again, that you believe only
because you reject God and not because of any "facts".
--
± Pastor Dave Raymond ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
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| User: "Tom" |
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28 Apr 2004 06:16:01 PM |
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"Pastor Dave" <nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:52b090h3ikrp9vvg0gjvqkld2h6ne9fjkh@4ax.com...
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 18:56:50 GMT, don'tgo@there.com
(The Watcher) spake thusly:
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 04:10:53 -0400, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
(snip)
Microevolution. A fact of science.
Microevolution=evolution. A fact of science. Maybe you should stick to
talking
with sheep. ;)
Now, can you imagine what your descendants will look like
a million years from now... (SCARY, frightening, ugh!).
And there it is folks. This is the pile of evidence
that they have for macroevolution (goo to you)...
The pile of evidence for evolution(macroevolution is a creationist straw
man) is
much bigger(and much more visible) than the evidence for ANY god(s).
You wish it were a straw man. I didn't invent the
word. The fact is, you cannot show one shred of
evidence for it and I knew you would try to dodge that
simple fact, this way.
"IMAGINE"
They give us an example of humans staying human and
then tell us to "imagine" the rest.
Got ANY credible evidence for the existence of any gods? ;)
Thank you for proving once again, that you believe only
because you reject God and not because of any "facts".
Mmm...let's see "Pastor", there was no Adam and Eve, no global flood, no
exodus from Egypt, no Abraham, no conquest of Canaan, no ten
commandments..what other evidence do you need to show that your god doesn't
exist.
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| User: "The Watcher" |
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29 Apr 2004 12:57:41 AM |
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:26:23 -0400, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
(snip)
You wish it were a straw man. I didn't invent the
word. The fact is, you cannot show one shred of
evidence for it and I knew you would try to dodge that
simple fact, this way.
OK, genius, then go find a biology textbook and find the word "macroevolution"
in it. Hint: You might have to go get one of those "special" biology textbooks
put out by the creationist propaganda machine.
(snip)
Got ANY credible evidence for the existence of any gods? ;)
Thank you for proving once again, that you believe only
because you reject God and not because of any "facts".
I guess that means you have NO credible evidence to support your claim that a
god exists. I thought that was the case. You should return to your flock of
sheep now. They might be trying to think for themselves now.
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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29 Apr 2004 07:56:17 PM |
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 05:57:41 GMT, don'tgo@there.com
(The Watcher) spake thusly:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:26:23 -0400, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
(snip)
You wish it were a straw man. I didn't invent the
word. The fact is, you cannot show one shred of
evidence for it and I knew you would try to dodge that
simple fact, this way.
OK, genius, then go find a biology textbook and find the word
"macroevolution" in it. Hint: You might have to go get one of those
"special" biology textbooks put out by the creationist propaganda
machine.
(snip)
Got ANY credible evidence for the existence of any gods? ;)
Thank you for proving once again, that you believe only
because you reject God and not because of any "facts".
I guess that means you have NO credible evidence to support your claim
that a god exists. I thought that was the case. You should return to
your flock of sheep now. They might be trying to think for themselves
now.
I'm an idiot who has no proof but what the Bible says and that is all I
need. Bye, bye. <plonk>
--
± Pastor Dave ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
Wise men study the unknown, and boldly seeks answers !
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling..
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29 Apr 2004 08:02:33 PM |
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 05:57:41 GMT, don'tgo@there.com
(The Watcher) spake thusly:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:26:23 -0400, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
(snip)
You wish it were a straw man. I didn't invent the
word. The fact is, you cannot show one shred of
evidence for it and I knew you would try to dodge that
simple fact, this way.
OK, genius, then go find a biology textbook and find the word
"macroevolution" in it. Hint: You might have to go get one of those
"special" biology textbooks put out by the creationist propaganda
machine.
Gee, your favorite web site, talkorigins has it. I
guess you're just dense, or a liar.
From www.talkorigins.org:
"Antievolutionists argue that there has been no proof of
macroevolutionary processes. However, synthesists claim that the same
processes that cause within-species changes of the frequencies of alleles
can be extrapolated to between species changes, so this argument fails
unless some mechanism for preventing microevolution causing
macroevolution is discovered. Since every step of the process has been
demonstrated in genetics and the rest of biology, the argument against
macroevolution fails"
"Macroevolution
* (n) [FAQ] 1. Evolution at or above the species level. [den., science]
The boundary between macro- and micro- is fuzzy, as some researchers
prefer to include speciation in micro- and others reson that the only
macro- process that gives distinctive events is speciation. Speciation
events are thus, to many scientists, examples of macroevolution. 2.
Evolution too imperceptible to be observed within the lifetime of one
researcher [conn., Goldschmidt, 1940]. While SciCre-ists are fond of
quoting Goldschmidt when discussing his hopeful monster conjecture, they
show no inclination to accept Goldschmidt's connotation of the term
macroevolution. 3. Evolution at a level which is not currently observed.
[conn., TAE] This is a common connotation among SciCre-ists and TAEs,
since it is open ended and easy to adjust with announcements of new
observations. Depending upon the astuteness of SciCre-ists and TAEs in
your local community, this may be asserted to be at levels ranging from
species to family, with a marked preference for the word kind. Given the
manner in which kind is defined, this becomes a tautology. "
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± Pastor Dave ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
Wise men study the unknown, and boldly seeks answers !
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling..
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29 Apr 2004 04:43:17 PM |
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 05:57:41 GMT, don'tgo@there.com
(The Watcher) spake thusly:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:26:23 -0400, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
(snip)
You wish it were a straw man. I didn't invent the
word. The fact is, you cannot show one shred of
evidence for it and I knew you would try to dodge that
simple fact, this way.
OK, genius, then go find a biology textbook and find the word "macroevolution"
in it. Hint: You might have to go get one of those "special" biology textbooks
put out by the creationist propaganda machine.
(snip)
Got ANY credible evidence for the existence of any gods? ;)
Thank you for proving once again, that you believe only
because you reject God and not because of any "facts".
I guess that means you have NO credible evidence to support your claim that a
god exists. I thought that was the case. You should return to your flock of
sheep now. They might be trying to think for themselves now.
You're an idiot. Bye, bye. <plonk>
--
± Pastor Dave Raymond ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
GODISNOWHERE (now read it again)
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29 Apr 2004 04:42:58 PM |
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 05:57:41 GMT, don'tgo@there.com
(The Watcher) spake thusly:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:26:23 -0400, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
(snip)
You wish it were a straw man. I didn't invent the
word. The fact is, you cannot show one shred of
evidence for it and I knew you would try to dodge that
simple fact, this way.
OK, genius, then go find a biology textbook and find the word "macroevolution"
in it. Hint: You might have to go get one of those "special" biology textbooks
put out by the creationist propaganda machine.
Gee, your favorite web site, talkorigins has it. I
guess you're just dense, or a liar.
--
± Pastor Dave Raymond ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
Patience is a virtue which carries a lot of wait.
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| User: "The Watcher" |
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30 Apr 2004 12:28:46 AM |
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:42:58 -0400, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 05:57:41 GMT, don'tgo@there.com
(The Watcher) spake thusly:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:26:23 -0400, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
(snip)
You wish it were a straw man. I didn't invent the
word. The fact is, you cannot show one shred of
evidence for it and I knew you would try to dodge that
simple fact, this way.
OK, genius, then go find a biology textbook and find the word "macroevolution"
in it. Hint: You might have to go get one of those "special" biology textbooks
put out by the creationist propaganda machine.
Gee, your favorite web site, talkorigins has it. I
guess you're just dense, or a liar.
And you know this is MY favorite website how? ESP or did you imaginary god tell
you? Doesn't really matter, since you're wrong anyway. You must be used to that,
by now. Being wrong is a way of life for a cretinist. ;)
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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30 Apr 2004 09:39:44 AM |
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On 30 Apr 2004 Fri, 30 Apr 2004 05:28:46 GMT, The Watcher
<don'tgo@there.com>, spake thusly:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:42:58 -0400, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 05:57:41 GMT, don'tgo@there.com
(The Watcher) spake thusly:
On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 18:26:23 -0400, Pastor Dave
<nospam*-*pastordave38@yahoo.com> wrote:
(snip)
You wish it were a straw man. I didn't invent the
word. The fact is, you cannot show one shred of
evidence for it and I knew you would try to dodge that
simple fact, this way.
OK, genius, then go find a biology textbook and find the word
"macroevolution" in it. Hint: You might have to go get one of those
"special" biology textbooks put out by the creationist propaganda
machine.
Gee, your favorite web site, talkorigins has it. I
guess you're just dense, or a liar.
And you know this is MY favorite website how? ESP or did you imaginary
god tell you? Doesn't really matter, since you're wrong anyway. You
must be used to that, by now. Being wrong is a way of life for a
cretinist. ;)
I read the Bible and I know everything, that's how. We're done!
--
± Pastor Dave ±
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
Wise men study the unknown, and boldly seeks answers !
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling..
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| User: "G O D S - C R E A T O R" |
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27 Apr 2004 11:05:45 PM |
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Pastor Dave wrote:
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 05:55:45 GMT, G O D 'S - C R E A T
O R <The_Real_God@Go.Com> spake thusly:
IKnowHimDoYou wrote:
"Evolution Is A Religion"
......
......
.....
And there it is folks. This is the pile of evidence
that they have for macroevolution (goo to you)...
"IMAGINE"
They give us an example of humans staying human and
then tell us to "imagine" the rest.
Thus Spake God's Creator; (I don't forgive *****!)
IMAGINE.. That is one of the brains most powerful attributes.
for separating fantasy from reality,
Or
for determining the difference between
feasibility and impossibility.
Without which nothing could have been imagined, including... GODS.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
GOD'S CREATION ( My only sin... )
Wise men study the unknown, and boldly seeks answers !
Others... fall on their hands and knees, and start mumbling...
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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28 Apr 2004 05:26:25 PM |
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 04:05:45 GMT, G O D 'S - C R E A T
O R <The_Real_God@Go.Com> spake thusly:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 05:55:45 GMT, G O D 'S - C R E A T
O R <The_Real_God@Go.Com> spake thusly:
IKnowHimDoYou wrote:
"Evolution Is A Religion"
.....
.....
....
And there it is folks. This is the pile of evidence
that they have for macroevolution (goo to you)...
"IMAGINE"
They give us an example of humans staying human and
then tell us to "imagine" the rest.
Thus Spake God's Creator; (I don't forgive *****!)
Goodbye. <plonk>
--
± Pastor Dave Raymond ±
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to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
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| User: "Pastor Dave" |
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29 Apr 2004 01:12:47 PM |
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 04:05:45 GMT, G O D 'S - C R E A T
O R <The_Real_God@Go.Com> spake thusly:
Pastor Dave wrote:
On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 05:55:45 GMT, G O D 'S - C R E A T
O R <The_Real_God@Go.Com> spake thusly:
IKnowHimDoYou wrote:
"Evolution Is A Religion"
.....
.....
....
And there it is folks. This is the pile of evidence
that they have for macroevolution (goo to you)...
"IMAGINE"
They give us an example of humans staying human and
then tell us to "imagine" the rest.
Thus Spake God's Creator; (I don't forgive *****!)
Goodbye. <plonk>
--
± Pastor Dave ±
"The descendants of Ham were marked especially for secular service to
mankind. Indeed they were to be 'servants of servants,' that is 'servants
extraordinary!' Although only Canaan is mentioned specifically (possibly
because the branch of Ham's family through Canaan would later come into
most direct contact with Israel), the whole family of Ham is in view. The
prophecy is worldwide in scope and, since Shem and Japheth are covered,
all Ham's descendants must be also. These include all nations which are
neither Semitic nor Japhetic. Thus, all of the earth's 'colored' races,--
yellow, red, brown, and black--essentially the Afro-Asian group of
peoples, including the American Indians--are possibly Hamitic in origin
and included within the scope of the Canaanitic prophecy, as well as the
Egyptians, Sumerians, Hittites, and Phoenicians of antiquity"
Dr. Henry Morris, "The Beginning Of the World" 1991
"As for me, I have not hastened from being a pastor
to follow thee: neither have I desired the woeful day;
thou knowest: that which came out of my lips was right
before thee." - Jeremiah 17:16
It is often argued that religion is valuable because it makes men good,
but even if this were true it would not be a proof that religion is true.
That would be an extension of pragmatism beyond endurance. Santa Claus
makes children good in precisely the same way, and yet no one would argue
seriously that the fact proves his existence. The defense of religion is
full of such logical imbecilities."
Mencken
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25 Apr 2004 12:43:57 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, IKnowHimDoYou poured fuel on the
fire with the following:
"Evolution Is A Religion"
"Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science.
Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion-a full-fledged
alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality..EVOLUTION IS A
RELIGION. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of
evolution today." Michael Ruse, "Saving Darwinism from the Darwinians,"
National Post (May 13, 2000), p. B-3.
I managed to locate the National Post article cited above:
http://www.schwarzreport.org/SchwarzReport/2003/november03.html
Here, Michael Ruse states that:
"There is no need to make a religion of evolution. On its own merits,
evolution as science is just that – good, tough, forward-looking
science, which should be taught as a matter of course to all children,
regardless of creed."
....
"The important point is that we should recognize when people are going
beyond the strict science, moving into moral and social claims, thinking
of their theory as an all-embracing world picture."
Ruse is a Darwinian philosopher and ardent atheist. Here he lets down the
curtain so many atheists proclaim that evolution is "science" instead of
religion.
Equine excrement.
There is no "letting down" of the curtain. Dr. Ruse makes it clear that
he opposes turning evolution into religion.
Regards,
Josef
A fact will fit every other fact in the universe, and that is how you
can tell whether it is or is not a fact. A lie will not fit anything
except another lie.
-- Robert G. Ingersoll
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25 Apr 2004 11:48:42 AM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, IKnowHimDoYou poured fuel on the
fire with the following:
"Evolution Is A Religion"
Yawwwwn. Here it comes.
"Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science.
Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion-a full-fledged
alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality..EVOLUTION IS A
RELIGION. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of
evolution today." Michael Ruse, "Saving Darwinism from the Darwinians,"
National Post (May 13, 2000), p. B-3.
Ruse is a Darwinian philosopher and ardent atheist. Here he lets down the
curtain so many atheists proclaim that evolution is "science" instead of
religion.
An excellent example of taking material out of context. Here is what
Michael Ruse has to say on the matter:
http://metanexus.net/metanexus_online/show_article.asp?8769
In his conclusion, he states that: "Conservative Christian critics who
argue that the whole of evolutionary thought is merely a religion
alternative or substitute are wrong, willfully so."
In this article, Ruse takes issue with scientists like Edward O. Wilson,
who seem to want to turn evolution into a religion.
"Is it bad that there is this religious-like dimension to evolutionary
thought? I see no reason to say that it is. If someone like Wilson --
who feels strongly that our nature will always demand a religious
perspective and commitment -- wants to make a religion of his science,
then this is surely his right as much as it is our right to accept or
reject it as we will. But it is important to realize that evolutionary
thought does have this dimension and not to confuse this with other,
more ideology-free work. And, although we may and must let others know
of our enthusiasm for the wonderful idea of evolution, we must make sure
that others are not led into confusion either."
Regards,
Josef
The first thing a man will do for his ideals is lie.
-- J.A. Schumpeter
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25 Apr 2004 01:09:40 PM |
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In alt.atheism article <IKnowHim-2504040902310001@pm1-39.kalama.com> IKnowHimDoYou <IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com> wrote:
: "Evolution Is A Religion"
: "Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science.
: Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion-a full-fledged
: alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality..EVOLUTION IS A
: RELIGION. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of
: evolution today." Michael Ruse, "Saving Darwinism from the Darwinians,"
: National Post (May 13, 2000), p. B-3.
: Ruse is a Darwinian philosopher and ardent atheist. Here he lets down the
: curtain so many atheists proclaim that evolution is "science" instead of
: religion.
No rational philosopher calls this 'Darwinism'. Some do refer to
Darwinian theory/hypotheses to keep them separate from more current ideas.
Ruse is a good name for him.
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| User: "Silver Blaze" |
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25 Apr 2004 05:45:55 PM |
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In article <IKnowHim-2504040902310001@pm1-39.kalama.com>,
IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com (IKnowHimDoYou) wrote:
"Evolution Is A Religion"
"Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science.
Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion-a full-fledged
alternative to Christianity, with meaning and morality..EVOLUTION IS A
RELIGION. This was true of evolution in the beginning, and it is true of
evolution today." Michael Ruse, "Saving Darwinism from the Darwinians,"
National Post (May 13, 2000), p. B-3.
Ruse is a Darwinian philosopher and ardent atheist. Here he lets down the
curtain so many atheists proclaim that evolution is "science" instead of
religion.
Stuff and nonsense
Get a life!
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26 Apr 2004 11:23:41 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:02:31 -0700 in episode
<IKnowHim-2504040902310001@pm1-39.kalama.com> we saw our hero
IKnowHim@leavingsoon.com (IKnowHimDoYou):
"Evolution Is A Religion"
Liar.
--
Mark K. Bilbo - a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism,
because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
- Mussolini
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| User: "Daniel Kolle" |
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25 Apr 2004 01:47:49 PM |
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On Sun, 25 Apr 2004 09:02:31 -0700,
(IKnowHimDoYou) thought hard and said:
"Evolution Is A Religion"
"Evolution is promoted by its practitioners as more than mere science.
Evolution is promulgated as an ideology, a secular religion-a full-fledged
alternative to Christianity,
Then why are so many Christians evolutionists?
--
-Daniel "Mr. Brevity" Kolle; 16 A.A. #2035
Koji Kondo, Yo-Yo Ma, Gustav Mahler, and Krzysztof Penderecki are my Gods.
Madly Insane EAC Scientist.
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