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Religions > Atheism |
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"Uncle Buck" |
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28 Nov 2005 02:45:05 AM |
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Evolutionary subtlety |
A short while ago, for reasons unknown even to myself, the thought of
locusts passed through my mind. The kind that only hatch every so many years (7
or 17, I think, but I'm not sure). This in turn led me to thinking about
spontaneous triggers, and I had to wonder if our own species might not have some
similarly dormant traits which would be expressed spontaneously in certain
conditions.
I don't mean anything "routine" that only crops up as we live our
day-to-day lives - not like sleep or anything. I mean something more
far-reaching, something that would affect all exposed individuals in such a way
that they might express the dormant trait - like whatever trigger it is that
causes locust pupa to express their "hatch now" gene.
Somewhere between thoughts of the locusts and the second paragraph, an
image flashed through my mind which made the subject quite clear. It was that
"condition X" was satisfied and as a result, the entire world suddenly becomes
one great big orgy. For reasons that defy logic and that the people themselves
do not understand, they were "triggered" into yielding to the irresistable urge
to strip off all their clothes and go ***** like a bunch of over-caffeinated wild
monkeys.
Something spontaneous. Like the trigger that causes locusts to all of a
sudden hatch after so many years of being dormant. Not routine things like sex
or food, which are of course "dormant" features for us until the "triggers"
occur - and besides, we all react differently to these things. I mean something
more universal. Something that all humans exposed to it would spontaneously
express the same trait. Maybe not that drastic, but that far-reaching at least.
With what we know of genetics now, is it possible that there's any such
"dormancy" evolved into our genetic code that we don't even suspect?
Such a thing would be a rather novel - if not entirely credible - way to
explain why some societies have suddenly "disappeared" throughout the centuries.
Maybe "the trigger" for a trait we aren't yet aware of had occurred, and the
expressed trait was to just get up and leave.
I dunno'. It's just a ponderance. Thought I'd throw it out there to see where
you folks might take it. :-)
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
aa#88
BAAWA Knight
"One seldom fully hears what one is only ever told."
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| User: "Ike" |
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| Title: Re: Evolutionary subtlety |
28 Nov 2005 09:53:16 AM |
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"Uncle Buck" <UncleBuck@SpamMeNot.com> wrote in message
news:lsqko19k6mvgce6v49n3edm57u10kvdqku@4ax.com...
A short while ago, for reasons unknown even to myself, the thought of
locusts passed through my mind. The kind that only hatch every so many
years (7
or 17, I think, but I'm not sure). This in turn led me to thinking about
spontaneous triggers, and I had to wonder if our own species might not
have some
similarly dormant traits which would be expressed spontaneously in certain
conditions.
I don't mean anything "routine" that only crops up as we live our
day-to-day lives - not like sleep or anything. I mean something more
far-reaching, something that would affect all exposed individuals in such
a way
that they might express the dormant trait - like whatever trigger it is
that
causes locust pupa to express their "hatch now" gene.
Somewhere between thoughts of the locusts and the second paragraph, an
image flashed through my mind which made the subject quite clear. It was
that
"condition X" was satisfied and as a result, the entire world suddenly
becomes
one great big orgy. For reasons that defy logic and that the people
themselves
do not understand, they were "triggered" into yielding to the irresistable
urge
to strip off all their clothes and go ***** like a bunch of
over-caffeinated wild
monkeys.
Something spontaneous. Like the trigger that causes locusts to all of a
sudden hatch after so many years of being dormant. Not routine things
like sex
or food, which are of course "dormant" features for us until the
"triggers"
occur - and besides, we all react differently to these things. I mean
something
more universal. Something that all humans exposed to it would
spontaneously
express the same trait. Maybe not that drastic, but that far-reaching at
least.
With what we know of genetics now, is it possible that there's any such
"dormancy" evolved into our genetic code that we don't even suspect?
Such a thing would be a rather novel - if not entirely credible - way to
explain why some societies have suddenly "disappeared" throughout the
centuries.
Maybe "the trigger" for a trait we aren't yet aware of had occurred, and
the
expressed trait was to just get up and leave.
I dunno'. It's just a ponderance. Thought I'd throw it out there to see
where
you folks might take it. :-)
What you are talking about is war.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Evolutionary subtlety |
28 Nov 2005 02:54:41 AM |
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You're gonna wanna read Larry Niven's "The Locusts." It's in one of
his comprehensive collected works.
Uncle Buck wrote:
A short while ago, for reasons unknown even to myself, the thought of
locusts passed through my mind. The kind that only hatch every so many years (7
or 17, I think, but I'm not sure). This in turn led me to thinking about
spontaneous triggers, and I had to wonder if our own species might not have some
similarly dormant traits which would be expressed spontaneously in certain
conditions.
I don't mean anything "routine" that only crops up as we live our
day-to-day lives - not like sleep or anything. I mean something more
far-reaching, something that would affect all exposed individuals in such a way
that they might express the dormant trait - like whatever trigger it is that
causes locust pupa to express their "hatch now" gene.
Somewhere between thoughts of the locusts and the second paragraph, an
image flashed through my mind which made the subject quite clear. It was that
"condition X" was satisfied and as a result, the entire world suddenly becomes
one great big orgy. For reasons that defy logic and that the people themselves
do not understand, they were "triggered" into yielding to the irresistable urge
to strip off all their clothes and go ***** like a bunch of over-caffeinated wild
monkeys.
Something spontaneous. Like the trigger that causes locusts to all of a
sudden hatch after so many years of being dormant. Not routine things like sex
or food, which are of course "dormant" features for us until the "triggers"
occur - and besides, we all react differently to these things. I mean something
more universal. Something that all humans exposed to it would spontaneously
express the same trait. Maybe not that drastic, but that far-reaching at least.
With what we know of genetics now, is it possible that there's any such
"dormancy" evolved into our genetic code that we don't even suspect?
Such a thing would be a rather novel - if not entirely credible - way to
explain why some societies have suddenly "disappeared" throughout the centuries.
Maybe "the trigger" for a trait we aren't yet aware of had occurred, and the
expressed trait was to just get up and leave.
I dunno'. It's just a ponderance. Thought I'd throw it out there to see where
you folks might take it. :-)
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
aa#88
BAAWA Knight
"One seldom fully hears what one is only ever told."
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| User: "Daniel Jackson" |
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| Title: Re: Evolutionary subtlety |
28 Nov 2005 03:01:47 AM |
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<jkawashima@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1133146481.809376.203860@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You're gonna wanna read Larry Niven's "The Locusts." It's in one of
his comprehensive collected works.
I've only read Lucifers Hammer and Footfall.
The locusts, is it worth picking up?
Uncle Buck wrote:
A short while ago, for reasons unknown even to myself, the thought of
locusts passed through my mind. The kind that only hatch every so many
years (7
or 17, I think, but I'm not sure). This in turn led me to thinking about
spontaneous triggers, and I had to wonder if our own species might not
have some
similarly dormant traits which would be expressed spontaneously in
certain
conditions.
I don't mean anything "routine" that only crops up as we live our
day-to-day lives - not like sleep or anything. I mean something more
far-reaching, something that would affect all exposed individuals in such
a way
that they might express the dormant trait - like whatever trigger it is
that
causes locust pupa to express their "hatch now" gene.
Somewhere between thoughts of the locusts and the second paragraph, an
image flashed through my mind which made the subject quite clear. It was
that
"condition X" was satisfied and as a result, the entire world suddenly
becomes
one great big orgy. For reasons that defy logic and that the people
themselves
do not understand, they were "triggered" into yielding to the
irresistable urge
to strip off all their clothes and go ***** like a bunch of
over-caffeinated wild
monkeys.
Something spontaneous. Like the trigger that causes locusts to all of a
sudden hatch after so many years of being dormant. Not routine things
like sex
or food, which are of course "dormant" features for us until the
"triggers"
occur - and besides, we all react differently to these things. I mean
something
more universal. Something that all humans exposed to it would
spontaneously
express the same trait. Maybe not that drastic, but that far-reaching at
least.
With what we know of genetics now, is it possible that there's any such
"dormancy" evolved into our genetic code that we don't even suspect?
Such a thing would be a rather novel - if not entirely credible - way to
explain why some societies have suddenly "disappeared" throughout the
centuries.
Maybe "the trigger" for a trait we aren't yet aware of had occurred, and
the
expressed trait was to just get up and leave.
I dunno'. It's just a ponderance. Thought I'd throw it out there to see
where
you folks might take it. :-)
--
L8r,
Uncle Buck
aa#88
BAAWA Knight
"One seldom fully hears what one is only ever told."
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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| Title: Re: Evolutionary subtlety |
28 Nov 2005 07:49:57 AM |
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:01:47 -0600, Daniel Jackson wrote
(in article <BaCdnaoX3ZWB7hfenZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@giganews.com>):
<jkawashima@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1133146481.809376.203860@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You're gonna wanna read Larry Niven's "The Locusts." It's in one of
his comprehensive collected works.
I've only read Lucifers Hammer and Footfall.
The locusts, is it worth picking up?
snip
Anything that Niven has written is worth picking up. If Jerry Pournelle was
also involved, it is even more worthy.
--
Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
³At least Evolution doesn't ask you to tithe 10% of your income.³ - RHertz
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