Religions > Atheism > Evolutionists are especially hard pressed to account for the numerous instances in which beauty is hidden and unnecessary
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15 Sep 2005 09:59:33 PM |
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Evolutionists are especially hard pressed to account for the numerous instances in which beauty is hidden and unnecessary |
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
Surely,the initial life-form in the evolutionists scheme did not exhibit
such beauty.Science maintains that the origin,development,perfection and
widespread presence of visual beauty in the world of life completely defies
evolutionary explanation.Evolutionists are especially hard pressed to
account for the numerous instances in which beauty is hidden and
unnecessary.Much to the consternation of the evolutionist,visual beauty is
often quite useless except for the aesthetic gratification of man and God.
Many structures are beautifully colored despite the fact that they are
rarely or never seen.For example,the abyssal fish,Rhodicthys,is of a bright
red color.Yet,it lives in total darkness,1.5 miles below the surface of the
ocean.Likewise,the deep-sea Neoscopelus macrolepidotus is vividly colored
with azure blue, bright red, silver spots, and black circles!
Even the eggs of some of the deep-sea creatures are brilliantly colored.
Useless or hidden visual beauty is indeed an evolutionist's nightmare.To
their way of "thinking,"everything that evolves must have a practical
purpose, or else it would never evolve.Evolution is supposed to be a
responsible process.Why then the splendors of the abyssal fish, the beauty
found inside some shells, the dazzling colors inside the mouths of
nestlings, and so on?And remember we have only considered color, saying
nothing of the magnificent and limitless architectural design found in
nature.Also, if visual beauty is a natural consequence of evolutionary
progression, why is it that lower life forms display greater visual beauty
than that of the higher life forms, such as man?
Evolutionary thinking falls short ad rather fails dismally in attempting to
explain visual beauty.The evolutionists is totally baffled by the world
around him so characterized by perfect widespread beauty that often serves
no practical function, except for aesthetics. The only logical explanation
and reasonable conclusion agrees with the observed facts is that such beauty
is the creation of the greatest designer and aesthete of all.As the psalmist
records: "The heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his
handywork" (Ps. 19:1).
--
"There are more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any profane
history."
Sir Isaac Newton [1642-1727]
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"There are more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any profane
history."
Sir Isaac Newton [1642-1727]
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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16 Sep 2005 06:02:08 AM |
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"Kant" <Kantis@Hell.com> astounded us with:
news:pyqWe.59$7Y4.1288@news.uswest.net:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
Snipped the "blah blah blah blah blah"
Answer; God diddit, a marvelous explanation.
***** idiot
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Phÿltêr
Alt.Atheism #1938
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
Remove "s" to respond
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
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| User: "navi-gater" |
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15 Sep 2005 11:49:25 PM |
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"Kant" <Kantis@Hell.com> wrote in
news:pyqWe.59$7Y4.1288@news.uswest.net:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.
Beauty is subjective - so this is not an adequate argument against
evolutionary science.
gater.
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| User: "Woden" |
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15 Sep 2005 11:12:21 PM |
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"Kant" <Kantis@Hell.com> wrote in
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Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.
In your opinion. Until you can show that beauty is "objective" and not
just subjective interpretation and feeling "in the eye of the beholder"
your arguements are pretty much meaningless.
(snip remainder of xian *****)
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Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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16 Sep 2005 07:01:16 AM |
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In <Xns96D32A884AEEwodencharternet@69.28.186.121>, Woden
<woden@charter.net> wrote:
"Kant" <Kantis@Hell.com> wrote in
news:pyqWe.59$7Y4.1288@news.uswest.net:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.
In your opinion. Until you can show that beauty is "objective" and not
just subjective interpretation and feeling "in the eye of the beholder"
your arguements are pretty much meaningless.
(snip remainder of xian *****)
It's just Raytard again...
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Mark K. Bilbo
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"We're angry, Mr. President, and we'll be angry long
after our beloved city and surrounding parishes have
been pumped dry. Our people deserved rescuing.
Many who could have been were not. That's to the
government's shame."
http://makeashorterlink.com/?F2D511CBB
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| User: "Greywolf" |
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15 Sep 2005 10:45:02 PM |
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"Kant" <Kantis@Hell.com> wrote in message
news:pyqWe.59$7Y4.1288@news.uswest.net...
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
Surely,the initial life-form in the evolutionists scheme did not exhibit
such beauty.Science maintains that the origin,development,perfection and
widespread presence of visual beauty in the world of life completely
defies evolutionary explanation.Evolutionists are especially hard pressed
to account for the numerous instances in which beauty is hidden and
unnecessary.Much to the consternation of the evolutionist,visual beauty is
often quite useless except for the aesthetic gratification of man and God.
Many structures are beautifully colored despite the fact that they are
rarely or never seen.For example,the abyssal fish,Rhodicthys,is of a
bright red color.Yet,it lives in total darkness,1.5 miles below the
surface of the ocean.Likewise,the deep-sea Neoscopelus macrolepidotus is
vividly colored with azure blue, bright red, silver spots, and black
circles!
Even the eggs of some of the deep-sea creatures are brilliantly colored.
Useless or hidden visual beauty is indeed an evolutionist's nightmare.To
their way of "thinking,"everything that evolves must have a practical
purpose, or else it would never evolve.Evolution is supposed to be a
responsible process.Why then the splendors of the abyssal fish, the beauty
found inside some shells, the dazzling colors inside the mouths of
nestlings, and so on?And remember we have only considered color, saying
nothing of the magnificent and limitless architectural design found in
nature.Also, if visual beauty is a natural consequence of evolutionary
progression, why is it that lower life forms display greater visual beauty
than that of the higher life forms, such as man?
Evolutionary thinking falls short ad rather fails dismally in attempting
to explain visual beauty.The evolutionists is totally baffled by the world
around him so characterized by perfect widespread beauty that often serves
no practical function, except for aesthetics. The only logical explanation
and reasonable conclusion agrees with the observed facts is that such
beauty is the creation of the greatest designer and aesthete of all.As the
psalmist records: "The heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament
sheweth his handywork" (Ps. 19:1).
--
"There are more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any
profane history."
Sir Isaac Newton [1642-1727]
--
"There are more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any
profane history."
Sir Isaac Newton [1642-1727]
'The only logical explanation
and reasonable conclusion agrees with the observed facts is that such
beauty is the creation of the greatest designer and aesthete of all.As the
psalmist records: "The heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament
sheweth his handywork" (Ps. 19:1).'
And what about all the ugliness and evil in the world? Did the 'greatest
designer
and aesthete of all,' in your view create, all of that for his own
amusement, or was
he drunk when he 'created' these things? The "heaven's" certainly declared
'the
glory of God' with hurricane Katrina, didn't 'they'? And the psalmist? Where
did
he get all his fact-filled information: from well-informed scientists, or
was he
simply speculating? In other words, did he have enough scientific
information to
reach the conclusions he did, or was he simply another religionist talking
out of his
***** again? I ask you.
Greywolf
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| User: "bob young" |
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16 Sep 2005 12:43:03 AM |
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Greywolf wrote:
"Kant" <Kantis@Hell.com> wrote in message
news:pyqWe.59$7Y4.1288@news.uswest.net...
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
Surely,the initial life-form in the evolutionists scheme did not exhibit
such beauty.Science maintains that the origin,development,perfection and
widespread presence of visual beauty in the world of life completely
defies evolutionary explanation.Evolutionists are especially hard pressed
to account for the numerous instances in which beauty is hidden and
unnecessary.Much to the consternation of the evolutionist,visual beauty is
often quite useless except for the aesthetic gratification of man and God.
Many structures are beautifully colored despite the fact that they are
rarely or never seen.For example,the abyssal fish,Rhodicthys,is of a
bright red color.Yet,it lives in total darkness,1.5 miles below the
surface of the ocean.Likewise,the deep-sea Neoscopelus macrolepidotus is
vividly colored with azure blue, bright red, silver spots, and black
circles!
Even the eggs of some of the deep-sea creatures are brilliantly colored.
Useless or hidden visual beauty is indeed an evolutionist's nightmare.To
their way of "thinking,"everything that evolves must have a practical
purpose, or else it would never evolve.Evolution is supposed to be a
responsible process.Why then the splendors of the abyssal fish, the beauty
found inside some shells, the dazzling colors inside the mouths of
nestlings, and so on?And remember we have only considered color, saying
nothing of the magnificent and limitless architectural design found in
nature.Also, if visual beauty is a natural consequence of evolutionary
progression, why is it that lower life forms display greater visual beauty
than that of the higher life forms, such as man?
Evolutionary thinking falls short ad rather fails dismally in attempting
to explain visual beauty.The evolutionists is totally baffled by the world
around him so characterized by perfect widespread beauty that often serves
no practical function, except for aesthetics. The only logical explanation
and reasonable conclusion agrees with the observed facts is that such
beauty is the creation of the greatest designer and aesthete of all.As the
psalmist records: "The heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament
sheweth his handywork" (Ps. 19:1).
--
"There are more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any
profane history."
Sir Isaac Newton [1642-1727]
--
"There are more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any
profane history."
Sir Isaac Newton [1642-1727]
'The only logical explanation
and reasonable conclusion agrees with the observed facts is that such
beauty is the creation of the greatest designer and aesthete of all.As the
psalmist records: "The heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament
sheweth his handywork" (Ps. 19:1).'
And what about all the ugliness and evil in the world? Did the 'greatest
designer
and aesthete of all,' in your view create, all of that for his own
amusement, or was
he drunk when he 'created' these things? The "heaven's" certainly declared
'the
glory of God' with hurricane Katrina, didn't 'they'? And the psalmist? Where
did
he get all his fact-filled information: from well-informed scientists, or
was he
simply speculating? In other words, did he have enough scientific
information to
reach the conclusions he did, or was he simply another religionist talking
out of his
***** again? I ask you.
Greywolf
What on earth could the primitives answer when their children asked, as I'm
sure they did
"where did we come from Daddy"?
Obvious isn't it, "The gods created us"
But TODAY in the year 2005 !!! ?????
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| User: "Torch" |
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16 Sep 2005 02:10:35 AM |
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"Kant" <Kantis@Hell.com> wrote in message
news:pyqWe.59$7Y4.1288@news.uswest.net...
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
Surely,the initial life-form in the evolutionists scheme did not exhibit
such beauty.Science maintains that the origin,development,perfection and
widespread presence of visual beauty in the world of life completely
defies evolutionary explanation.Evolutionists are especially hard pressed
to account for the numerous instances in which beauty is hidden and
unnecessary.Much to the consternation of the evolutionist,visual beauty is
often quite useless except for the aesthetic gratification of man and God.
Many structures are beautifully colored despite the fact that they are
rarely or never seen.For example,the abyssal fish,Rhodicthys,is of a
bright red color.Yet,it lives in total darkness,1.5 miles below the
surface of the ocean.Likewise,the deep-sea Neoscopelus macrolepidotus is
vividly colored with azure blue, bright red, silver spots, and black
circles!
Even the eggs of some of the deep-sea creatures are brilliantly colored.
Useless or hidden visual beauty is indeed an evolutionist's nightmare.To
their way of "thinking,"everything that evolves must have a practical
purpose, or else it would never evolve.Evolution is supposed to be a
responsible process.Why then the splendors of the abyssal fish, the beauty
found inside some shells, the dazzling colors inside the mouths of
nestlings, and so on?And remember we have only considered color, saying
nothing of the magnificent and limitless architectural design found in
nature.Also, if visual beauty is a natural consequence of evolutionary
progression, why is it that lower life forms display greater visual beauty
than that of the higher life forms, such as man?
Evolutionary thinking falls short ad rather fails dismally in attempting
to explain visual beauty.The evolutionists is totally baffled by the world
around him so characterized by perfect widespread beauty that often serves
no practical function, except for aesthetics. The only logical explanation
and reasonable conclusion agrees with the observed facts is that such
beauty is the creation of the greatest designer and aesthete of all.As the
psalmist records: "The heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament
sheweth his handywork" (Ps. 19:1).
--
"There are more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any
profane history."
Sir Isaac Newton [1642-1727]
--
"There are more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any
profane history."
Sir Isaac Newton [1642-1727]
The eye of the beholder:
Flies see paradise in a rotting corpse - a place to get a good meal, get
laid and bring up some kids.
To a dung beetle there is nothing more beautiful than a steaming pile of
*****.
The mentally deficient find wonderful comforting logic in creationist
nonsense.
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| User: "bob young" |
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16 Sep 2005 09:53:02 PM |
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Torch wrote:
"Kant" <Kantis@Hell.com> wrote in message
news:pyqWe.59$7Y4.1288@news.uswest.net...
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
Surely,the initial life-form in the evolutionists scheme did not exhibit
such beauty.Science maintains that the origin,development,perfection and
widespread presence of visual beauty in the world of life completely
defies evolutionary explanation.Evolutionists are especially hard pressed
to account for the numerous instances in which beauty is hidden and
unnecessary.Much to the consternation of the evolutionist,visual beauty is
often quite useless except for the aesthetic gratification of man and God.
Many structures are beautifully colored despite the fact that they are
rarely or never seen.For example,the abyssal fish,Rhodicthys,is of a
bright red color.Yet,it lives in total darkness,1.5 miles below the
surface of the ocean.Likewise,the deep-sea Neoscopelus macrolepidotus is
vividly colored with azure blue, bright red, silver spots, and black
circles!
Even the eggs of some of the deep-sea creatures are brilliantly colored.
Useless or hidden visual beauty is indeed an evolutionist's nightmare.To
their way of "thinking,"everything that evolves must have a practical
purpose, or else it would never evolve.Evolution is supposed to be a
responsible process.Why then the splendors of the abyssal fish, the beauty
found inside some shells, the dazzling colors inside the mouths of
nestlings, and so on?And remember we have only considered color, saying
nothing of the magnificent and limitless architectural design found in
nature.Also, if visual beauty is a natural consequence of evolutionary
progression, why is it that lower life forms display greater visual beauty
than that of the higher life forms, such as man?
Evolutionary thinking falls short ad rather fails dismally in attempting
to explain visual beauty.The evolutionists is totally baffled by the world
around him so characterized by perfect widespread beauty that often serves
no practical function, except for aesthetics. The only logical explanation
and reasonable conclusion agrees with the observed facts is that such
beauty is the creation of the greatest designer and aesthete of all.As the
psalmist records: "The heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament
sheweth his handywork" (Ps. 19:1).
--
"There are more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any
profane history."
Sir Isaac Newton [1642-1727]
--
"There are more sure marks of authenticity in the Bible than in any
profane history."
Sir Isaac Newton [1642-1727]
The eye of the beholder:
Flies see paradise in a rotting corpse - a place to get a good meal, get
laid and bring up some kids.
To a dung beetle there is nothing more beautiful than a steaming pile of
*****.
The mentally deficient find wonderful comforting logic in creationist
nonsense.
True, true,
their creator was suposed to have made billions of animal species, the broad
majority of which eat their prey whilst it is still alive.
What do they call their myth, A Loving god ?!
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15 Sep 2005 10:18:32 PM |
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"Kant" <Kantis@Hell.com> wrote in message
news:pyqWe.59$7Y4.1288@news.uswest.net...
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
Surely,the initial life-form in the evolutionists scheme did not exhibit
such beauty.Science maintains that the origin,development,perfection and
widespread presence of visual beauty in the world of life completely
defies evolutionary explanation.Evolutionists are especially hard pressed
to account for the numerous instances in which beauty is hidden and
unnecessary.Much to the consternation of the evolutionist,visual beauty is
often quite useless except for the aesthetic gratification of man and God.
Many structures are beautifully colored despite the fact that they are
rarely or never seen.For example,the abyssal fish,Rhodicthys,is of a
bright red color.Yet,it lives in total darkness,1.5 miles below the
surface of the ocean.Likewise,the deep-sea Neoscopelus macrolepidotus is
vividly colored with azure blue, bright red, silver spots, and black
circles!
Even the eggs of some of the deep-sea creatures are brilliantly colored.
Useless or hidden visual beauty is indeed an evolutionist's nightmare.To
their way of "thinking,"everything that evolves must have a practical
purpose, or else it would never evolve.Evolution is supposed to be a
responsible process.Why then the splendors of the abyssal fish, the beauty
found inside some shells, the dazzling colors inside the mouths of
nestlings, and so on?And remember we have only considered color, saying
nothing of the magnificent and limitless architectural design found in
nature.Also, if visual beauty is a natural consequence of evolutionary
progression, why is it that lower life forms display greater visual beauty
than that of the higher life forms, such as man?
Evolutionary thinking falls short ad rather fails dismally in attempting
to explain visual beauty.The evolutionists is totally baffled by the world
around him so characterized by perfect widespread beauty that often serves
no practical function, except for aesthetics. The only logical explanation
and reasonable conclusion agrees with the observed facts is that such
beauty is the creation of the greatest designer and aesthete of all.As the
psalmist records: "The heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament
sheweth his handywork" (Ps. 19:1).
Jeebus Christmas, talk about a drawn on sentence!
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
#1557
Science doesn't burn people at the stake for disagreeing - Vic Sagerquist
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon" |
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15 Sep 2005 10:12:02 PM |
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"Kant" <Kantis@Hell.com> wrote in news:pyqWe.59$7Y4.1288@news.uswest.net:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
The eye of the beholder.
Case dismissed. Next case.
Klazmon
<SNIP>
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| User: "Kant" |
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15 Sep 2005 10:12:52 PM |
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"Llanzlan Klazmon" <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in message
news:Xns96D39AA0CBD9AKlazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6...
"Kant" <Kantis@Hell.com> wrote in news:pyqWe.59$7Y4.1288@news.uswest.net:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
The eye of the beholder.
Case dismissed. Next case.
Klazmon
<SNIP>
You've failed
Dismissed
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| User: "Llanzlan Klazmon" |
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15 Sep 2005 11:51:48 PM |
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"Kant" <Kantis@Hell.com> wrote in news:UKqWe.61$w76.12905@news.uswest.net:
"Llanzlan Klazmon" <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in message
news:Xns96D39AA0CBD9AKlazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6...
"Kant" <Kantis@Hell.com> wrote in
news:pyqWe.59$7Y4.1288@news.uswest.net:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all
of this visual beauty come from?
The eye of the beholder.
Case dismissed. Next case.
Klazmon
<SNIP>
You've failed
Dismissed
That you were unable to counter the argument I made is noted.
Klazmon.
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15 Sep 2005 10:36:01 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:12:52 -0700, "Kant" <Kantis@Hell.com> wrote:
"Llanzlan Klazmon" <Klazmon@llurdiaxorb.govt> wrote in message
news:Xns96D39AA0CBD9AKlazmonllurdiaxorbgo@203.97.37.6...
"Kant" <Kantis@Hell.com> wrote in news:pyqWe.59$7Y4.1288@news.uswest.net:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
The eye of the beholder.
Case dismissed. Next case.
Klazmon
<SNIP>
You've failed
Dismissed
If you don't understand, perhaps we can arrange for you to stay after
class, You don't even understand the basics.
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zamboni #2139
BAAWA Assistant to the Vice-Administrator of Malevolence
EAC Tertiary Adjunct to the Dispenser of Obfuscation.
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| User: "Vivapadrepios personal Cthulhu" |
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16 Sep 2005 12:17:53 AM |
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Cometh the hour, cometh "Kant" <Kantis@Hell.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
Evolution. Why not?
Why the flying ***** do you god-botherers keep demanding that each and
every atheist teach you the whole of science? Go away.
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Cthulhu says "tortured souls are tough and taste rather sour. Be happy, die happy, make me a happy eater.
:-)
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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16 Sep 2005 06:38:58 AM |
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 06:17:53 +0100, Vivapadrepio's personal Cthulhu
<cthulhu@soulstogo.com> wrote:
Cometh the hour, cometh "Kant" <Kantis@Hell.com>
who, with imperceptibly subtle footwork in alt.atheism, gave us this:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
Evolution. Why not?
Why the flying ***** do you god-botherers keep demanding that each and
every atheist teach you the whole of science? Go away.
A combination of two things:
- they imagine that it is some kind of atheist catchism.
- the questions are menat to be silver bullets so they're not
interested in any answer
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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16 Sep 2005 07:18:22 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, Kant poured fuel on the fire with
the following:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
Beauty is, quite literally, in the eye of the beholder.
Surely,the initial life-form in the evolutionists scheme did not exhibit
such beauty.
Likely not.
Science maintains that the origin,development,perfection and
widespread presence of visual beauty in the world of life completely defies
evolutionary explanation.
You surely are referring to creationist "scientists".
Evolutionists are especially hard pressed to
account for the numerous instances in which beauty is hidden and
unnecessary.Much to the consternation of the evolutionist,visual beauty is
often quite useless except for the aesthetic gratification of man and God.
Unsupported assertion.
Many structures are beautifully colored despite the fact that they are
rarely or never seen.
< chuckle! >
If they are never seen then how do you know the colouration?
For example,the abyssal fish,Rhodicthys,is of a bright
red color.Yet,it lives in total darkness,1.5 miles below the surface of the
ocean.Likewise,the deep-sea Neoscopelus macrolepidotus is vividly colored
with azure blue, bright red, silver spots, and black circles!
Even the eggs of some of the deep-sea creatures are brilliantly colored.
Useless or hidden visual beauty is indeed an evolutionist's nightmare.
Snorf! Many fish in the depths are bio-luminescent.
http://www.5050.co.za/inserts.asp?ID=6365
http://www.lifesciences.napier.ac.uk/teaching/MB/MB9.html
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their way of "thinking,"everything that evolves must have a practical
purpose, or else it would never evolve.Evolution is supposed to be a
responsible process.Why then the splendors of the abyssal fish, ...
Identification, camouflage, luring prey.
... the beauty
found inside some shells, ...
Examples?
... the dazzling colors inside the mouths of
nestlings, ...
Identification at feeding time.
... and so on?And remember we have only considered color, saying
nothing of the magnificent and limitless architectural design found in
nature.
< chuckle! > I am surprised that you didn't provide even one example
from the "limitless" supply.
Also, if visual beauty is a natural consequence of evolutionary
progression, why is it that lower life forms display greater visual beauty
than that of the higher life forms, such as man?
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Evolutionary thinking falls short ad rather fails dismally in attempting to
explain visual beauty.
Not that you can demonstrate.
The evolutionists is totally baffled by the world
around him so characterized by perfect widespread beauty that often serves
no practical function, except for aesthetics.
Snorf!
The only logical explanation ...
LOL !!!!
... and reasonable conclusion agrees with the observed facts is that such beauty
is the creation of the greatest designer and aesthete of all.
< chuckle! >
So why do the "lower life forms display greater visual beauty"?
As the psalmist
records: "The heavens declare the glory of God;and the firmament sheweth his
handywork" (Ps. 19:1).
Naturalistic Fallacy.
http://tinyurl.com/6c7h9
Regards,
Josef
Out of passions grow opinions; mental sloth lets these rigidify into
convictions.
-- Nietzsche
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15 Sep 2005 10:13:52 PM |
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Kant wrote:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
<Automatic crap remover activated!>
Is it not lucky that science and esthetics are two different kettle of
fish!
However creationist drivel and brainlessness are one and the same ting.
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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15 Sep 2005 10:16:04 PM |
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"Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:1126840432.021605.50130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Kant wrote:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
<Automatic crap remover activated!>
Is it not lucky that science and esthetics are two different kettle of
fish!
However creationist drivel and brainlessness are one and the same ting.
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
I notice that you are hard pressed to answer the evolutionists nightmare?
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| User: "bob young" |
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16 Sep 2005 12:33:02 AM |
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Kant wrote:
"Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:1126840432.021605.50130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Kant wrote:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
<Automatic crap remover activated!>
Is it not lucky that science and esthetics are two different kettle of
fish!
However creationist drivel and brainlessness are one and the same ting.
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
I notice that you are hard pressed to answer the evolutionists nightmare?
It might be a nightmare to you Buddy but it is just plain common sense to me.
Ever watched apes when they are happy? What do some of them do?
They clap their hands together.
I'll show you an undeveloped ape fetus next to a human one and you won't know
the difference.
Your god created all of us with thousands of diseases that only science could
cure in the last three hundred or so years? For what purpose?
About one in every 200,000 human pregnancies results in a grossly deformed
fetus that is so grossly deformed and horrible the mother never gets to see
it.
This is due to:
1) Your god's warped sense of humor
2) The evolutionary process going awry as it often does.
[YOU Sir or madam will be hard pressed to answer the above]
Bob
Humanist Brit.
Hong hong
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15 Sep 2005 10:41:48 PM |
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Kant wrote:
"Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:1126840432.021605.50130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Kant wrote:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
<Automatic crap remover activated!>
Is it not lucky that science and esthetics are two different kettle of
fish!
However creationist drivel and brainlessness are one and the same ting.
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
I notice that you are hard pressed to answer the evolutionists nightmare?
Why should I be?
You have started out on the subject of esthetics. I am not an authority
on that. I have only pointed out your willful creative confusion by
mixing two different disciplines. Since you are no authority on science
I have nothing further to discuss with you in this forum!
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
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15 Sep 2005 10:39:27 PM |
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Kant wrote:
"Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:1126840432.021605.50130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Kant wrote:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
<Automatic crap remover activated!>
Is it not lucky that science and esthetics are two different kettle of
fish!
However creationist drivel and brainlessness are one and the same ting.
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
I notice that you are hard pressed to answer the evolutionists nightmare?
Which nightmare? That beauty is simply in the eye of the beholder?
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15 Sep 2005 10:39:25 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:16:04 -0700, "Kant" <Kantis@Hell.com> wrote:
"Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:1126840432.021605.50130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Kant wrote:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
<Automatic crap remover activated!>
Is it not lucky that science and esthetics are two different kettle of
fish!
However creationist drivel and brainlessness are one and the same ting.
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
I notice that you are hard pressed to answer the evolutionists nightmare?
As soon as you present a "nightmare", one of us will answer it for
you. So far you have only presented wishful thinking from a confused,
godsoaked mind. We will use small words so you'll be able to read it.
Whether or not you understand...well, that I cannot predict.
--
zamboni #2139
BAAWA Assistant to the Vice-Administrator of Malevolence
EAC Tertiary Adjunct to the Dispenser of Obfuscation.
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| User: "bob young" |
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16 Sep 2005 12:37:03 AM |
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wrote:
On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:16:04 -0700, "Kant" <Kantis@Hell.com> wrote:
"Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:1126840432.021605.50130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Kant wrote:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
<Automatic crap remover activated!>
Is it not lucky that science and esthetics are two different kettle of
fish!
However creationist drivel and brainlessness are one and the same ting.
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
I notice that you are hard pressed to answer the evolutionists nightmare?
As soon as you present a "nightmare", one of us will answer it for
you. So far you have only presented wishful thinking from a confused,
godsoaked mind. We will use small words so you'll be able to read it.
Whether or not you understand...well, that I cannot predict.
Shouldn't be a problem as the tales 'mummy' told at around age six about a
loving god up in heaven that "made you, Daddy and me"
Lovely stuff to send a kid off to sleep with, but downright falsehood all the
same
--
zamboni #2139
BAAWA Assistant to the Vice-Administrator of Malevolence
EAC Tertiary Adjunct to the Dispenser of Obfuscation.
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| User: "Kate " |
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15 Sep 2005 10:49:03 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:16:04 -0700, "Kant" <Kantis@Hell.com> wrote:
"Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:1126840432.021605.50130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Kant wrote:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
<Automatic crap remover activated!>
Is it not lucky that science and esthetics are two different kettle of
fish!
However creationist drivel and brainlessness are one and the same ting.
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
I notice that you are hard pressed to answer the evolutionists nightmare?
Bwha ha ha ha.
Been horribly outclassed again, eh ~Can't?~
Give it up - you were answered at the first post. You evolved to
think stuff is beautiful. Same as you evolved to think some women are
sexy. It's pretty damn simple if you can manage to think. And you
remembered that nobody agrees on what is beautiful or sexy.
For your homework today - try looking up the word 'subjective'.
End of amature's hour.
Next.
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15 Sep 2005 10:25:04 PM |
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On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 20:16:04 -0700, "Kant" <Kantis@Hell.com> wrote:
I notice that you are hard pressed to answer the evolutionists nightmare?
What "evolutionists [sic] nightmare", moron?
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15 Sep 2005 10:35:31 PM |
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Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Kant (Kantis@Hell.com) made
the light shine upon us with this:
"Ordog" <odbok001@sneakemail.com> wrote in message
news:1126840432.021605.50130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
Kant wrote:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did
all of this visual beauty come from?
<Automatic crap remover activated!>
Is it not lucky that science and esthetics are two different kettle
of fish!
However creationist drivel and brainlessness are one and the same
ting.
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
I notice that you are hard pressed to answer the evolutionists
nightmare?
WTF is an "evolutionist"? You seem to relate it along the same line as
"Creationist", which implies there is a belief involved. Wrong, Bozo.
Evolution is science. It's based on observation of the natural world,
and the theory is changing as new discoveries are made. This is
something that can't happen with creationism. If you change the god
story, it looks like the god was wrong when he told you the story. And
since your religion teaches the god is perfect, that cannot be so. So
you're stuck with an ancient doctrine that looks more and more like a
myth with every scientific discovery. And the more scientific
discoveries that are made that involve the origin of life on this planet,
the more you fools have to deny reality to endorse your silly god myths.
Grow up already.
--
Uncle Vic
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
http://home.comcast.net/~vickman/
Plonked by Raytard
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16 Sep 2005 12:27:03 AM |
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Ordog wrote:
Kant wrote:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
<Automatic crap remover activated!>
Is it not lucky that science and esthetics are two different kettle of
fish!
However creationist drivel and brainlessness are one and the same ting.
Ordog
"Beware of the man whose God is in the skies." Bernard Shaw
In medieval times they said "God is up thar in heaven, just above them
clouds, and Hell is bown below our feet"
Since we fly planes just above the clouds these days, were is god now?
Or is religion just plainly stupid?
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15 Sep 2005 10:43:40 PM |
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Kant wrote:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
To answer your question, yes, you may submit this to the textbook
publisher under the heading "Argument From Incredulity".
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16 Sep 2005 07:16:01 PM |
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Kant wrote:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
You're making the fundamental mistake of assuming that this "visual
beauty" is beautiful to any living organism on the planet besides you.
Why is a rose more "beautiful" than a cockroach? Because human beings
decided it was so. No other reason.
Now go away until you can learn how to format properly. You're a
damned eyesore on the Information Superhighway.
elizabeth
aa#2098
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"I was born with a skeptical mind. Now I ask you, is that fair?
If God gives me a skeptical nature and you an accepting one, then
you're going to be a believer and I'm not. If belief is a ticket to
eternal happiness, I'm definitely handicapped. God gives me a mind
capable of asking questions and what? I'm damned if I use it?"
F. Paul Wilson "The Haunted Air"
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16 Sep 2005 07:42:29 PM |
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"Auntie Lib" <wallenbrock@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1126916161.603178.304810@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Kant wrote:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
You're making the fundamental mistake of assuming that this "visual
beauty" is beautiful to any living organism on the planet besides you.
Why is a rose more "beautiful" than a cockroach? Because human beings
decided it was so. No other reason.
Now go away until you can learn how to format properly. You're a
damned eyesore on the Information Superhighway.
elizabeth
aa#2098
actually there is evidence that what we find beautiful (in general) is hard
wired into our brains. For instance - baby's prefer looking at the faces of
models...
here's jsut one article on the subject...
http://www.usaweekend.com/03_issues/030601/030601symmetry.html
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| User: "J Forbes" |
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15 Sep 2005 10:06:42 PM |
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Kant wrote:
Nature abounds with magnificent visual beauty.Many organisms exhibit
beautiful coloration patterns and architectural designs.Where did all of
this visual beauty come from?
hmmmmm....those things that help us survive, we find beautiful. Sounds
like natural selection at work.
Jim
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