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EXEMPLARY DEVOTION |
Exemplary devotion
The Hindu
A person develops devotion to God as a result of
spiritual practices performed during several births and
this can be seen from examples cited in the scriptural
texts. Prahlaad was a child devotee. He was the son of
Hiranyakashipu who hated God so much and had the audacity
to declare that he was the Supreme. Prahlaad is a fine
illustration of how devotees can be born even in the most
uncongenial environment and yet become exemplars of
devotion. The Vishnu Puraan describes at length the
atrocities perpetrated on the denizens of the three
worlds by Hiranyakashipu after he obtained boons from the
creator, Brahm. He thought that he had become invincible
because he had taken every precaution to see that he
would not die under any circumstances. Little did he
realise that no one can outwit the Almighty.
In his discourse, Shri P. R. Vaidyanath Shastrigal said
Prahlaad was the very antithesis of his father and right
from his childhood he adored the Supreme Being without
anyone teaching him the scriptures. Hiranyakashipu sent
him to his preceptor's hermitage to study with the other
children and when he asked him during one of his visits
what he had learnt Prahlada described the nature of the
Lord. Enraged he scolded his preceptor who denied
teaching him contrary to his orders. Prahlaad came to his
teacher's defence and said that no one needed to teach
him as the Lord who was immanent in all had enlightened
him about His glory.
Why did Hiranyakashipu entertain such hatred towards God?
The Bhagavat Puraan points out that he developed enmity
after the Lord incarnated as a boar (Varah) and killed
his brother, Hiranyaksha. Prahlaad continued to extol God
and finally exasperated Hiranyakashipu ordered his
servants to kill him but they could not even lay their
hands on him. Thinking that there was no point in
frightening him he tried to bring him around by cajoling
him to give up praising the Lord but Prahlaad remained
unwavering in his devotion to God.
The cruel tyrant then tried several means to kill him but
every time he came out of the ordeal unscathed. The
Vishnu Puraan states that when a sorcerer was engaged to
kill him by the use of black magic, Lord Vishnu's discus,
Sudarshan came to the child's rescue and saved him. When
he was tied up and thrown into the ocean, Prahlaad
identified himself with God totally that when he regained
his consciousness the ropes got severed of their own
accord.
More at:
http://www.hindu.com
TRIBUTES TO HINDUISM
1. Mahatma Gandhi:
"Hinduism has made marvelous discoveries in things of
religion, of the spirit, of the soul. We have no eye for
these great and fine discoveries. We are dazzled by the
material progress that western science has made. Ancient
India has survived because Hinduism was not developed
along material but spiritual lines.
"India is to me the dearest country in the world, because
I have discovered goodness in it. It has been subject to
foreign rule, it is true. But the status of a slave is
preferable to that of a slave holder."
2. Henry David Thoreau:
"In the morning I bathe my intellect in the stupendous
and cosmogonal philosophy of the Bhagavad Gita in
comparison with which our modern world and its literature
seems puny.
"What extracts from the Vedas I have read fall on me like
the light of a higher and purer luminary, which describes
a loftier course through purer stratum. It rises on me
like the full moon after the stars have come out, wading
through some far stratum in the sky."
3. Arthur Schopenhauer:
"In the whole world there is no study so beneficial and
so elevating as that of the Upanishads. It has been the
solace of my life -- it will be the solace of my death."
4. Ralph Waldo Emerson said this about the Gita:
"I owed a magnificent day to the Bhagavad Gita. It was as
if an empire spoke to us, nothing small or unworthy, but
large, serene, consistent, the voice of an old
intelligence which in another age and climate had
pondered and thus disposed of the same questions which
exercise us."
The famous poem "Brahm" is an example of his Vedanta
ecstasy.
5. Wilhelm von Humboldt pronounced the Gita as:
"The most beautiful, perhaps the only true philosophical
song existing in any known tongue ... perhaps the deepest
and loftiest thing the world has to show."
6. Lord Warren Hastings, the Governor General, was very
much impressed with Hindu philosophy:
"The writers of the Indian philosophies will survive,
when the British dominion in India shall long have ceased
to exist, and when the sources which it yielded of wealth
and power are lost to remembrances."
7. Mark Twain:
"So far as I am able to judge, nothing has been left
undone, either by man or nature, to make India the most
extraordinary country that the sun visits on his rounds.
Nothing seems to have been forgotten, nothing overlooked.
"Land of religions, cradle of human race, birthplace of
human speech, grandmother of legend, great grandmother of
tradition. The land that all men desire to see and having
seen once even by a glimpse, would not give that glimpse
for the shows of the rest of the globe combined."
8. Rudyard Kipling to Fundamental Christian Missionaries:
"Now it is not good for the Christian's health to hustle
the Hindu brown for the Christian riles and the Hindu
smiles and weareth the Christian down; and the end of the
fight is a tombstone while with the name of the late
deceased and the epitaph drear, "A fool lies here who
tried to hustle the east".
9. Jules Michelet, a French historian, said:
"At its starting point in India, the birthplace of races
and religions, the womb of the world." This is what he
said of the Raamyana in 1864: "Whoever has done or willed
too much let him drink from this deep cup a long draught
of life and youth .. . Everything is narrow in the West -
- Greece is small and I stifle; Judea is dry and I pant.
Let me look toward lofty Asia, and the profound East for
a little while. There lies my great poem, as vast as the
Indian ocean, blessed, gilded with the sun, the book of
divine harmony wherein is no dissonance. A serene peace
reigns there, and in the midst of conflict an infinite
sweetness, a boundless fraternity, which spreads over all
living things, an ocean (without bottom or bound) of
love, of pity, of clemency."
10. Shri Aurobindo:
"Hinduism.....gave itself no name, because it set itself
no sectarian limits; it claimed no universal adhesion,
asserted no sole infallible dogma, set up no single
narrow path or gate of salvation; it was less a creed or
cult than a continuously enlarging tradition of the
Godward endeavor of the human spirit. An immense many-
sided and many staged provision for a spiritual self-
building and self-finding, it had some right to speak of
itself by the only name it knew, the eternal religion,
sanaatan dharm...."
11. Will Durant would like the West to learn from India,
tolerance and gentleness and love for all living things:
"Perhaps in return for conquest, arrogance and
spoliation, India will teach us the tolerance and
gentleness of the mature mind, the quiet content of the
unacquisitive soul, the calm of the understanding spirit,
and a unifying, a pacifying love for all living things."
12. Joseph Campbell:
"It is ironic that our great western civilization, which
has opened to the minds of all mankind the infinite
wonders of a universe of untold billions of galaxies
should be saddled with the tightest little cosmological
image known to mankind? The Hindus with their grandiose
Kalpas and their ideas of the divine power which is
beyond all human category (male or female). Not so alien
to the imagery of modern science that it could not have
been put to acceptable use.
"There is an important difference between the Hindu and
the Western ideas. In the Biblical tradition, God creates
man, but man cannot say that he is divine in the same
sense that the Creator is, where as in Hinduism, all
things are incarnations of that power. We are the sparks
from a single fire. And we are all fire. Hinduism
believes in the omnipresence of the Supreme God in every
individual. There is no 'fall'. Man is not cut off from
the divine. He requires only to bring the spontaneous
activity of his mind stuff to a state of stillness and he
will experience that divine principle with him."
13. Sir Monier-Williams:
The Hindus, according to him, were Spinozists more than
2,000 years before the advent of Spinoza, and Darwinians
many centuries before Darwin and Evolutionists many
centuries before the doctrine of Evolution was accepted
by scientists of the present age.
14. Carl Sagan, (the late scientist), asserts that the
dance of Nataraj signifies the cycle of evolution and
destruction of the cosmic universe (Big Bang Theory). "It
is the clearest image of the activity of God which any
art or religion can boast of."
15. Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan, a professor of Eastern
Religions at Oxford and later President of India:
"Hinduism is not just a faith. It is the union of reason
and intuition that cannot be defined but is only to be
experienced. Evil and error are not ultimate. There is no
Hell, for that means there is a place where God is not,
and there are sins which exceed his love."
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
Hindu Holocaust Museum
http://www.mantra.com/holocaust
Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
http://www.hindu.org
http://www.hindunet.org
The truth about Islam and Muslims
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate
The terrorist mission of Jesus stated in the Christian bible:
"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not so send
peace, but a sword.
"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in
law.
"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
- Matthew 10:34-36.
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| User: "Osiris" |
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| Title: Re: EXEMPLARY DEVOTION |
08 Apr 2005 04:19:31 AM |
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"Dr. Jai Maharaj" <usenet@mantra.com> wrote in message
news:KAiDA2302IwOjo@RjaAx...
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| User: "Andromedan" |
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08 Apr 2005 03:01:20 AM |
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"Dr. Jai Maharaj" <usenet@mantra.com> wrote in message
news:KAiDA2302IwOjo@RjaAx...
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How is that done, exactly? If there is any evidence it should be reported to
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You can use the following link for this purpose:
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Live long and prosper. Damn the Vulcans for stealing our line.
Andromedan
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| User: "Woden" |
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08 Apr 2005 12:48:11 AM |
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(Dr. Jai Maharaj) wrote in news:KAiDA2302IwOjo@RjaAx:
Exemplary devotion
The Hindu
(snip religious *****)
Since newsgroup posts are being removed
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And what makes you think that atheists might be so interested in your
religious delusions, that you violate the rules of this newsgroup and
demonstrate your idiocy and overly inflated self importance?
--
Woden
"religion is a socio-political system for controlling people's thoughts,
lives and actions based on ancient myths and superstitions, perpetrated
through generations of subtle yet pervasive brainwashing."
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| User: "Dr. Jai Maharaj" |
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08 Apr 2005 02:58:09 AM |
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In article <Xns9631D431734CAwodencharternet@69.28.186.121>,
Woden <woden@charter.net> posted:
And what makes you think that atheists might be so interested . . .
You. (Although you're a "who", not a "what" -- in all likelihood.)
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: EXEMPLARY DEVOTION |
08 Apr 2005 02:10:49 AM |
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Dr. Jai Maharaj wrote:
Exemplary devotion
<snip>
Since newsgroup posts are being removed
by forgery by one or more net terrorists,
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Bwahahaha. You arrogant, self-centered fool. You're spamming numerous
newsgroups, all of which are uninterested, and some of them are likely
moderated. Real terrorists would be reposting your work all over the
place, replacing dialog with white noise. Oh, wait...
"alt.fan.jai-maharaj"?
"You seek followers? You should seek zeros!"
_Thus Spake Zarasthustra_ by Nietzsche
Kermit
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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08 Apr 2005 02:00:12 AM |
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On 07 Apr 2005, Dr. Jai Maharaj dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:
Exemplary devotion
The Hindu
A person develops devotion to God as a result of
spiritual practices performed during several births and
this can be seen from examples cited in the scriptural
texts.
Which god?
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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| User: "Dr. Jai Maharaj" |
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08 Apr 2005 02:55:54 AM |
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In article <Xns9631C18BBC0C6vicman@216.196.97.136>,
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> posted:
Which god?
Above, by "god" to whom do you refer?
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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08 Apr 2005 03:41:20 AM |
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On 07 Apr 2005, Dr. Jai Maharaj dropped trou, farted, whirled, then
shouted:
In article <Xns9631C18BBC0C6vicman@216.196.97.136>,
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> posted:
Which god?
Above, by "god" to whom do you refer?
Thank you for snipping the quote, repasted below
A person develops devotion to God as a result of
spiritual practices performed during several births and
this can be seen from examples cited in the scriptural
texts.
I refer to whichever god you are referencing, moron.
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Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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| User: "Dr. Jai Maharaj" |
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08 Apr 2005 07:40:15 AM |
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In article <Xns9631D2B11E36Dvicman@216.196.97.136>,
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> posted:
Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
In article <Xns9631C18BBC0C6vicman@216.196.97.136>,
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> posted:
Which god?
Above, by "god" to whom do you refer?
Thank you . . .
I refer to whichever god you are referencing . . .
Okay.
. . . moron.
Do you always sign your posts with "moron"? Why
the self-degradation?
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
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| User: "Secular Fundamentalist" |
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08 Apr 2005 10:38:12 AM |
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The gates of alt.atheism slowly swung open, and there stood
usenet@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj),who intoned thus:
In article <Xns9631D2B11E36Dvicman@216.196.97.136>,
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> posted:
Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
In article <Xns9631C18BBC0C6vicman@216.196.97.136>,
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> posted:
Which god?
Above, by "god" to whom do you refer?
Thank you . . .
I refer to whichever god you are referencing . . .
Okay.
. . . moron.
Do you always sign your posts with "moron"? Why
the self-degradation?
Which diploma mill did you get your doctorate from? Did you tell them
you were 12?
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N.
aa #2208
Mistabit doesn't work in mysterious ways, people just don't pay attention.
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| User: "Vic Sagerquist" |
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08 Apr 2005 06:07:34 PM |
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on 08 Apr 2005 in alt.atheism, Dr. Jai Maharaj dropped trou, farted,
whirled, then shouted:
In article <Xns9631D2B11E36Dvicman@216.196.97.136>,
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> posted:
Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:
In article <Xns9631C18BBC0C6vicman@216.196.97.136>,
Vic Sagerquist <address@withheld.com> posted:
Which god?
Above, by "god" to whom do you refer?
Thank you . . .
I refer to whichever god you are referencing . . .
Okay.
. . . moron.
Do you always sign your posts with "moron"? Why
the self-degradation?
Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
"Look what they've done to my post, ma..."
--
Vic Sagerquist
aa#2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department
Plonked by Jason Gastrich for all eternity...
______________
As you were, I was. As I am, you will be.
--- Hunter S. Thompson
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| User: "raven1" |
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08 Apr 2005 12:55:17 AM |
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On Fri, 08 Apr 2005 00:32:42 GMT, (Dr. Jai Maharaj)
wrote:
Since newsgroup posts are being removed
by forgery by one or more net terrorists,
this post may be reposted several times.
Each repetition will only serve to further demonstrate your idiocy.
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| User: "Secular Fundamentalist" |
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08 Apr 2005 08:18:42 AM |
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The gates of alt.atheism slowly swung open, and there stood
usenet@mantra.com (Dr. Jai Maharaj),who intoned thus:
Exemplary devotion
The Hindu
The Bhagavad Gita says that 'you are what you eat'. This is plain
absurd as it assumes that people don't process and render food, and
neither do they ***** or *****.
So much for the Bhagavad Gita.
David Silverman F.L.A.H.N.
aa #2208
Mistabit doesn't work in mysterious ways, people just don't pay attention.
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