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"Art Bulla" |
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Exposing the Fairy Tale for Grownups |
(Reclaiming Science from Darwinism; Kenneth Poppe):
These blind alleys dismissed, the book (textbook) usually gives the correct
view for the origin of cellular life, using Pasteur's famous "soup in a
flask" experiment. Pictures show how boiled broth left in an open container
developed the contamination of bacterial life, while boiled broth in a flask
sealed from microbes in the air did not--thereby proving that only life
gives rise to life. And to be sure that the impressionable young reader
understands that superstitious theories cannot account for life, the author
is likely to close with the cell theory. This theory has three tenets:
1. The cell is the basic unit of life.
2. All organisms are made of cells.
3. All cells come from other cells.
The heart of the cell theory is the third statement, which says a new cell
can only come from a preexisting cell.
Life from Nonlife?
This poses a dilemma for the theory of natural evolution: to first say
spontaneously generated cells are a medieval myth, but then to say inorganic
(nonliving material) went to organic (living material) at least once in
Earth's history. To escape the dilemma, Darwinists need a powerful
explanation for unintended life, and a really good one, or they are back on
"maggots just appear on dead meat" footing. Of course they have one to
offer. It bears careful examination because if it is believable, Design must
take a giant step backward, so to speak. If it is unbelievable, then Design
wins, even if only by default. The following will give you a taste of the
complex processes said to be necessary if life is to evolve from nonlife.
(To fully comprehend the various theories would take a lifetime of study.)
In brief you are about to read of a string of random events that begin with
our Earth as a raging and inhospitable planet full of intense heat, toxic
gases, and violent storms.
Following the big bang, the first cell evolved on Earth when-after about 1.1
billion years-conditions on our violent lent and inhospitable planet finally
settled sufficiently for chemical complexity to move forward. By about 3.5
billion years ago, a powerful reconfiguring force, probably the sun's
ultraviolet rays, had eventually fractured enough simple inorganic molecules
like carbon dioxide and methane to release their atomic carbon contents.
These then reassembled into the carbon-chain configurations that are the
backbones of organic molecules in our carbon-based life-forms. As water,
hydrogen gas, ammonia, and nitrogen gas were also fractured by UV rays, all
four atoms that make up 99 percent of organic tissue-hydrogen, oxygen,
nitrogen, and additional carbon-were able to begin attachment to the
existing carbon chains. Though this may have taken many millions of years,
the simplest organic carbohydrates finally appeared in the primordial soup.
Now the oceans-or perhaps freshwater ponds which were not subject to harsh
salinity-contained organic molecules like simple alcohols (ethanol), weak
organic acids (acetic acid), and monosaccharides (glucose, and later
deoxyribose and ribose). At this point, perhaps it was
Lightning, another powerful reconfiguring force, that fractured sulfuric and
phosphoric acids to free necessary sulfate and phosphate radicals. These
ionized groups, perhaps further catalyzed by superheated iron and nickel
sulfides, then interacted with the present carbohydrates to produce at least
some of the "alphabet" of 20 amino acids. And now that these amino-acid
building blocks were appearing, they polymerized into the all-essential
proteins necessary for any type of future cell structure. Besides UV rays
and lightning, there were other reconfiguring forces present on ancient
Earth to aid in molecular advancement. X-rays, volcanoes, earthquakes,
tornadoes, and meteor strikes may have also played a role in the assembly of
larger organic molecules such as additional amino acids, vitamins, ATPs, and
simple enzymes. The appearance of enzymes would be particularly important in
that they would accelerate molecular development. At this juncture, critical
components made their appearance. Certain amino acids were somewhat altered
to produce the nitrogenous bases of cytosine, adenine, guanine, and uracil,
which combined with sugars and phosphates to produce nucleotides that served
as the building blocks for the first nucleic acid, RNA. (The template for
assembling such a macromolecule could have been the intricate lattice
arrangement of inorganic crystals.) With RNA now present, acting as both a
coder of additional nitrogenous base sequences and a ligase-type catalyst,
it began to self-replicate. Portions of the RNA molecule were now able to
construct longer proteins, such as those needed for protective cell
membranes, and were also able to code for a unique molecule called
chlorophyll. The chlorophyll in developing chloroplasts would then take over
carbon-chain construction through the extremely reliable process of
photosynthesis. With RNA and photosynthesis both producing further organic
molecular complexity and abundance, these large particles began adhering to
each other, eventually forming
well-known prebiotic coctcervates-subcellular particles bringing us to the
verge of a living cell. Other portions of mutating RNA molecules could now
begin to code for proteins necessary for the eventual appearance of
organelles such as mitochondria, ribosomes, and plastids. Meanwhile, another
nitrogenous base, thymine, had already been added to the soup. It was now
only a short step to transform RNA into the double-helix marvel of DNA, the
ultimate holder of all future genetic codes. This freed RNA to adopt its
present role of messenger in the production of subsequent proteins and
allowed DNA to assume full "blueprint duties" for all other cell structures.
Then in short order, the first asexual prokaryotic cell appeared in the form
of a single bacterium, and life was born. As proliferating prokaryotic cells
continued nucleic acid. production, individual strands of DNA eventually
traveled in twos, leading to the homologous chromosome pairs that are basic
to all of today's organisms. Then, as these evolving cells engulfed other
less complex bacteria through endosyrnhiosis, they were transformed. into
organelles for added capabilities rather than being digested. This produced
the first true eukaryotic cell, and the world now had an organism capable of
going beyond simple asexual reproduction to utilize a sexual mating process
allowing for great variations among offspring. It did not take long for
these advanced cells to clump together in multicellularity for protection
and division of labor, producing perhaps worms and primitive fish. Though
this entire process may have taken 3.5 billion years to complete, the forces
of natural selection were now coming into play through survival of the
fittest, which would drive organisms to improve or die. For this reason, one
might say that in the next billion years or so, the appearance of the
complex plant and animal species of the twenty-first century was a foregone
conclusion. Obviously, research for more specifics on the actual mechanisms
above continues. On other fronts, the search on Earth for structurally
related but unusable molecules has
been inconclusive, as have attempts to generate molecular complexity in
substantive quantities under laboratory conditions. But nature continues to
divulge her secrets, albeit reluctantly, and the work goes on, This highly
detailed explanation stops at the appearance of the ancient
chordares-s-fish-c-which Darwinists believe went on to eventually become
species like the North American wood duck (which I use as an example in the
next chapter). And if that could happen, then I guess mammals could appear
and become monkeys, and so on.
Get Out the Magic Wand On the surface, the entire package appears to
constitute a powerful argument. Darwinists I know fully believe in this and
think nothing more needs to be said. At first glance, how could anyone argue
with this explanation? How could you challenge the details unless you were
as highly trained as the researchers? The rapid bombardment of high-powered
vocabulary, and the dizzying mosaic the terms paint, surely cannot be the
product of a vivid imagination, can it? And what about the explanation's
obvious lack of need for an Unseen Hand? How can "In the beginning, God..."
compete with this? Is natural evolution the truth and Design the fraud? Does
Darwinism still have every right to monopolize science, rendering the title
of this book meaningless? We can see why, to Darwinists, theological
explanations for the origin of life must seem like magic-wand waving and
smoke and mirrors. I'm sure this is the reason evolutionists have told me to
my face that I've forsaken cognitive facts and the left-brained reasoning of
science, and instead am now drawing on the emotionalism of the right-brained
superstitions of religion-not too far from voodoo and witchcraft.
(Flattering, isn't it?)
Another Accidental Marvel However, before we pursue the issue further, I
would like to present an explanation that parallels the one above: an
explanation of the unintended processes that produced another first-the
first television.
The television came into use when conditions in the civilized world finally
made electronic communications a possibility. It began long ago on a
deserted tropical island. Violent volcanic activity due to tectonic plate
movement crystallized sand into glass in the shape of a cathode-ray tube.
This tube fell into a phosphorescent "soup" composed of the remains of
millions of ancient fireflies, and the oozing liquid coated the glass.
Though natural erosion eventually wore away the outside phosphor coating,
the inside coating dried and remained. later, a random lightning strike
placed two lumps of iron at each end of the tube. These lumps became
magnetized, one positively and one negatively, by the heat dissipation of
the ancient cooling Earth, and simultaneously began to function as an anode
and a cathode, collecting and repelling electrons. Random
oxidation-reduction reactions driven by intense heat from a thermal vent
separated and refined sufficient copper from available ore to shape several
strands of wire, which were belched ashore by an underwater earthquake and
subsequent tidal wave. Hurricane-force winds attached these wires to the
magnets in the glass tube in the exact required position. Suction from these
same winds produced a vacuum in the tube, which was sealed in by cork
insulators blown into place from destroyed trees. Finally, a burst of
ultraviolet radiation from an uncommonly intense solar flare energized the
two electrodes, and they began to fire electrons at the phosphor coating at
the precise angle that would cause it to glow. The very first operational
cathode-ray tube was now a reality. As all this was taking place, over the
same lengthy time period the same reconfiguring forces had shaped the less
complex components of tubes; circuit boards, dials, and wood cabinetry.
These lay scattered all over the island where the cathode ray tube lay
glowing. The light and the other strange-looking objects attracted the
curious monkeys on the island, and they began to randomly manipulate the
pieces.
34 PART I- A SURVEY OF THE LANDSCAPE
As luck would have it, the primates somehow managed to assemble the
components, and before they could disassemble them, a man walking the
deserted island found the device and named it the "tele-vision." This man
was an entrepreneurial sort who realized its potential to display specified
electronic signals, perhaps for profit. He brought the "TV" back to
civilization, where he applied for and was granted a patent. Now it has been
many years since that first simple glowing cathode-ray tube was discovered.
and through serendipitous results of the random actions of bungling
repairmen, it has evolved into such sophisticated devices as plasma screens
and HDTV. However, much of the original accidental technology is still being
duplicated, and even the name "television" is still used today. Electronic
engineers around the world still marvel at the luck of the original patent
owner. This is because no similar "pre-television" components have ever been
found anywhere else on Earth, either nonfunctional or near-functional, which
could corroborate the bizarre tale told by the man who once walked that
tropical island. Also, attempts to piece together the natural processes
thought to have taken place, and then recreate them under tightly controlled
simulated conditions, have met with unsatisfactory results. And yet faith in
the truth of the process causes the work to go on.
Well-there you have it. The product has changed from cell to television, but
the reliance on potentially lucky processes is basically the same. Perhaps
the only other difference is that the vocabulary in the TV scenario isn't as
intimidating and doesn't produce the hoodwinking element of mystery due to
the unfamiliar.
Choose Your Smoke and Mirrors Is it perhaps possible that evolutionary
science also employs its fair share of magic-wand waving and smoke and
mirrors? When you under stand what natural evolution is really trying to
sell, do you get the feeling someone should tell the king sporting his new
clothes that he is really naked? The story is told of a consortium of
scientists who bet God they too could make a living cell from scratch. The
challenge was accepted, and the group proceeded to gather the most renowned
molecular biologists, cytologists, and geneticists from around the world. As
word spread, funds began pouring in from all over. The team built an
impressive research facility and equipped it with powerful supercomputers,
high-tech Constructing a vital microscopes, state-of-the-art electronic
machinery, and all the best tools and
glassware. When all was in place, the team prepared to go out and collect
the necessary chemical compounds to begin their experiments. At this point,
unimaginable magnitude. God stepped in and said, 'Hey. not so fast-get your
own raw materials.
Even if organic components-in this case, prelife molecules already assembled
by living cells-were available, I wonder if lab experiments have shown that
we are anywhere near making a living cell. Consider the following: "
Cutting-edge laboratory work can barely identify and safely alter organic
molecules from those already present in nature. Even constructing a vital
organelle within a cell, such as a mitochondrion, is unthinkable due to
complexity of an unimaginable magnitude. Therefore, the correct answer as to
whether we can make a living cell in a test tube is not "inevitable,"
"likely," "probably," or "maybe"-or even "remote"-but most definitely
"impossible." However, the incongruity is, many of those same reputable
scientists believe that without our Story's state-of-the-art research
facility with supercomputers, microscopes, random chance can produce such a
result! (Reclaiming Science from Darwinism; Kenneth Poppe)
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Website: http://www.artbulla.com
5 And it speaketh harshly against sin, according to the plainness of the
truth; wherefore, no man will be angry at the words which I have written
save he shall be of the spirit of the devil.
6 I glory in plainness; I glory in truth; I glory in my Jesus, for he hath
redeemed my soul from hell.
(2 Nephi 33:5 - 6)
26 And ye have murmured because he hath been plain unto you. Ye say that
he hath used sharpness; ye say that he hath been angry with you; but behold,
his sharpness was the sharpness of the power of the word of God, which was
in him; and that which ye call anger was the truth, according to that which
is in God, which he could not restrain, manifesting boldly concerning your
iniquities.
27 And it must needs be that the power of God must be with him, even unto
his commanding you that ye must obey. But behold, it was not he, but it was
the Spirit of the Lord which was in him, which opened his mouth to utterance
that he could not shut it.
(Book of Mormon | 2 Nephi 1:26 - 27)
"What Joseph meant by being damned was that people will go into the spirit
world without the Priesthood, and consequently they are under the power of
Satan, and will have to be redeemed, or else they will be forever under his
power. That is all there is about that."
(Journal of Discourses, 26 vols., 17:, p.159)
"I am like a huge rough stone rolling down from a high mountain; and the
only polishing I get is when some corner gets rubbed off by coming in
contact with something else, striking with accelerated force against
religious bigotry, priestcraft, lawyer-craft, doctor-craft, lying editors,
suborned judges and jurors, and the authority of perjured executives, backed
by mobs, blasphemers, licentious and corrupt men and women, all hell
knocking off a corner here and a corner there. Thus will I become a smooth
and polished shaft in the quiver of the Almighty." (Teachings of the
Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 304.)
"I just tell em the truth, and they think it's hell." Harry Truman
THE GOLDEN RULE OF DISINFORMERS:
Always accuse your adversary of whatever is true about yourself.
"Nothing has more retarded the advancement of learning than the disposition
of vulgar minds to ridicule and vilify what they do not understand."
Dr.Samuel Johnson.
The Revelations of Jesus Christ:
<http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0-595-28287-3>
Discourses of Brigham Young, Pg.68
As it has always been, and will be yet for some time, when the sons
of God assemble together Satan will be on hand as an accuser of the
brethren, to find fault with those who are trying to do good.
"But we ask, does it remain for a people who never had faith enough to call
down one scrap of revelation from heaven, and for all they have now are
indebted
to the faith of another people...does it remain for them to say how much God
has
spoken and how much He has not spoken?" Joseph Smith
"Every generation has flattered itself that it is a little better than the
one that preceded it. Every generation has prided itself in its knowledge
and great advancement in the arts and sciences and its superiority over
preceding generations; yet the power of the adversary and his hatred of
righteousness and truth are as great to-day as they ever were since the
creation of the earth." Journal of Discourses, Vol.11, Pg.228 - Pg.229,
George Q. Cannon, May 6, 1866
"Some men are natural born saints; whenever a principle is advanced they
understand it, and drink it in; * * * while there are others who do not
understand and oppose every principle that is not clear to their mind. This
can be accounted for, that we are not all pure blooded, for Ephraim became
foolish and mixed up with the gentiles. When we find the pure blood of
Ephraim, we find a natural born child of God and there is nothing in the
gospel that is objectionable to them, but the others have to exercise faith
in God and humble themselves before Him and live for it." (Deseret Weekly,
50:250-251)
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| User: "Jeckyl" |
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| Title: Re: Exposing the Fairy Tale for Grownups |
05 Jun 2007 09:12:50 PM |
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"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> wrote in message
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(Reclaiming Science from Darwinism; Kenneth Poppe):
What a long load of crap .. is there a point ot it all?
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| User: "Art Bulla" |
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07 Jun 2007 03:12:21 PM |
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Well, you have to learn to read first...
"Jeckyl" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> wrote in message
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(Reclaiming Science from Darwinism; Kenneth Poppe):
What a long load of crap .. is there a point ot it all?
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| User: "John Baker" |
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07 Jun 2007 04:44:54 PM |
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On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:12:21 -0700, "Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com>
wrote:
Well, you have to learn to read first...
Take your ***** out of alt.atheism, moron.
"Jeckyl" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> wrote in message
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(Reclaiming Science from Darwinism; Kenneth Poppe):
What a long load of crap .. is there a point ot it all?
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| User: "Art Bulla" |
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08 Jun 2007 11:19:19 AM |
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Go to hell, atheist fascist pig.
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:12:21 -0700, "Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com>
wrote:
Well, you have to learn to read first...
Take your ***** out of alt.atheism, moron.
"Jeckyl" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> wrote in message
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(Reclaiming Science from Darwinism; Kenneth Poppe):
What a long load of crap .. is there a point ot it all?
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| User: "" |
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08 Jun 2007 03:20:45 PM |
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On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:19:19 -0700, "Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com>
wrote:
Go to hell, atheist fascist pig.
Now THAT sounds like a truly "godly" response from you, bulla! But it
DOES reflect YOUR god.
Go figure.
Checker
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:12:21 -0700, "Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com>
wrote:
Well, you have to learn to read first...
Take your ***** out of alt.atheism, moron.
"Jeckyl" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> wrote in message
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(Reclaiming Science from Darwinism; Kenneth Poppe):
What a long load of crap .. is there a point ot it all?
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| User: "Aaron Kim" |
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06 Jul 2007 08:53:44 PM |
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On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:19:19 -0700, "Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com>
wrote:
Go to hell, atheist fascist pig.
Now THAT sounds like a truly "godly" response from you, bulla! But it
DOES reflect YOUR god.
Go figure.
Does that mean you believe in evolution?
Checker
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On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:12:21 -0700, "Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com>
wrote:
Well, you have to learn to read first...
Take your ***** out of alt.atheism, moron.
"Jeckyl" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> wrote in message
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(Reclaiming Science from Darwinism; Kenneth Poppe):
What a long load of crap .. is there a point ot it all?
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08 Jun 2007 11:18:27 PM |
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On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:19:19 -0700, "Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com>
wrote:
Go to hell, atheist fascist pig.
Now THAT sounds like a truly "godly" response from you, bulla! But it
DOES reflect YOUR god.
Go figure.
Jesus called the Pharisees fools face to face. He didn't mince words.
"If Jesus spoke as rough things to this generation as he did the Jews, this
generation would crucify him all over again." Joseph Smith
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:12:21 -0700, "Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com>
wrote:
Well, you have to learn to read first...
Take your ***** out of alt.atheism, moron.
"Jeckyl" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> wrote in message
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(Reclaiming Science from Darwinism; Kenneth Poppe):
What a long load of crap .. is there a point ot it all?
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| User: "Art Bulla" |
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10 Jun 2007 01:02:05 AM |
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Exactly so, Aaron. I was excecising righteous judgment, and "reproving with
equity for the meek of the earth" according to justice, something the
liberals do not understand. If they understood who and what God is, they
would fear him, for he is righteous, terrible and a consuming fire.
4 And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body,
and after that have no more that they can do.
5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath
killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
(Luke 12:4-5)
27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them,
bring hither, and slay [them] before me.
(Luke 19:27-28)
28 And when he had thus spoken, he went before, ascending up to Jerusalem.
(Luke 19:27-28)
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every
one may receive the things [done] in [his] body, according to that he hath
done, whether [it be] good or bad.
11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are
made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your
consciences.
(2 Cor 5:10-11)
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On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:19:19 -0700, "Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com>
wrote:
Go to hell, atheist fascist pig.
Now THAT sounds like a truly "godly" response from you, bulla! But it
DOES reflect YOUR god.
Go figure.
Jesus called the Pharisees fools face to face. He didn't mince words.
"If Jesus spoke as rough things to this generation as he did the Jews,
this generation would crucify him all over again." Joseph Smith
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:12:21 -0700, "Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com>
wrote:
Well, you have to learn to read first...
Take your ***** out of alt.atheism, moron.
"Jeckyl" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> wrote in message
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(Reclaiming Science from Darwinism; Kenneth Poppe):
What a long load of crap .. is there a point ot it all?
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| User: "Aaron Kim" |
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10 Jun 2007 01:46:48 AM |
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As you have stated, they do not understand the wrath of God.
26 And ye have murmured because he hath been plain unto you. Ye say that he
hath used sharpness; ye say that he hath been angry with you; but behold,
his sharpness was the sharpness of the power of the word of God, which was
in him; and that which ye call anger was the truth, according to that which
is in God, which he could not restrain, manifesting boldly concerning your
iniquities.
27 And it must needs be that the power of God must be with him, even unto
his commanding you that ye must obey. But behold, it was not he, but it was
the Spirit of the Lord which was in him, which opened his mouth to utterance
that he could not shut it.
"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> wrote in message
news:5d1if5F321sltU1@mid.individual.net...
Exactly so, Aaron. I was excecising righteous judgment, and "reproving
with equity for the meek of the earth" according to justice, something the
liberals do not understand. If they understood who and what God is, they
would fear him, for he is righteous, terrible and a consuming fire.
4 And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body,
and after that have no more that they can do.
5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he
hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
(Luke 12:4-5)
27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them,
bring hither, and slay [them] before me.
(Luke 19:27-28)
28 And when he had thus spoken, he went before, ascending up to
Jerusalem.
(Luke 19:27-28)
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every
one may receive the things [done] in [his] body, according to that he hath
done, whether [it be] good or bad.
11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are
made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your
consciences.
(2 Cor 5:10-11)
"Aaron Kim" <aaron@artbulla.com> wrote in message
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<checker@flapper.com> wrote in message
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On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:19:19 -0700, "Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com>
wrote:
Go to hell, atheist fascist pig.
Now THAT sounds like a truly "godly" response from you, bulla! But it
DOES reflect YOUR god.
Go figure.
Jesus called the Pharisees fools face to face. He didn't mince words.
"If Jesus spoke as rough things to this generation as he did the Jews,
this generation would crucify him all over again." Joseph Smith
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
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On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:12:21 -0700, "Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com>
wrote:
Well, you have to learn to read first...
Take your ***** out of alt.atheism, moron.
"Jeckyl" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> wrote in message
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(Reclaiming Science from Darwinism; Kenneth Poppe):
What a long load of crap .. is there a point ot it all?
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10 Jun 2007 01:48:00 AM |
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"Aaron Kim" <aaron@artbulla.com> wrote in message
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As you have stated, they do not understand the wrath of God.
26 And ye have murmured because he hath been plain unto you. Ye say that
he hath used sharpness; ye say that he hath been angry with you; but
behold, his sharpness was the sharpness of the power of the word of God,
which was in him; and that which ye call anger was the truth, according to
that which is in God, which he could not restrain, manifesting boldly
concerning your iniquities.
27 And it must needs be that the power of God must be with him, even unto
his commanding you that ye must obey. But behold, it was not he, but it
was the Spirit of the Lord which was in him, which opened his mouth to
utterance that he could not shut it.
My mistake, I left out the source of the verses. It's 2 Nephi 1 .
"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> wrote in message
news:5d1if5F321sltU1@mid.individual.net...
Exactly so, Aaron. I was excecising righteous judgment, and "reproving
with equity for the meek of the earth" according to justice, something
the liberals do not understand. If they understood who and what God is,
they would fear him, for he is righteous, terrible and a consuming fire.
4 And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the
body, and after that have no more that they can do.
5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he
hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.
(Luke 12:4-5)
27 But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them,
bring hither, and slay [them] before me.
(Luke 19:27-28)
28 And when he had thus spoken, he went before, ascending up to
Jerusalem.
(Luke 19:27-28)
10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every
one may receive the things [done] in [his] body, according to that he
hath done, whether [it be] good or bad.
11 Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are
made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your
consciences.
(2 Cor 5:10-11)
"Aaron Kim" <aaron@artbulla.com> wrote in message
news:5cuo0lF32f1iuU1@mid.individual.net...
<checker@flapper.com> wrote in message
news:gfej635c9rgalkggrck8l4i6vomlmqo1j5@4ax.com...
On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 09:19:19 -0700, "Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com>
wrote:
Go to hell, atheist fascist pig.
Now THAT sounds like a truly "godly" response from you, bulla! But it
DOES reflect YOUR god.
Go figure.
Jesus called the Pharisees fools face to face. He didn't mince words.
"If Jesus spoke as rough things to this generation as he did the Jews,
this generation would crucify him all over again." Joseph Smith
"John Baker" <nunya@bizniz.net> wrote in message
news:32vg631qt55nq69h02227jifjvffs3o2ae@4ax.com...
On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 13:12:21 -0700, "Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com>
wrote:
Well, you have to learn to read first...
Take your ***** out of alt.atheism, moron.
"Jeckyl" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:46661826$0$1188$61c65585@un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au...
"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> wrote in message
news:5cmijjF2uicuvU1@mid.individual.net...
(Reclaiming Science from Darwinism; Kenneth Poppe):
What a long load of crap .. is there a point ot it all?
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10 Jun 2007 05:03:57 AM |
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On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 23:48:00 -0700, "Aaron Kim" <aaron@artbulla.com>
wrote:
"Aaron Kim" <aaron@artbulla.com> wrote in message
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As you have stated, they do not understand the wrath of God.
26 And ye have murmured because he hath been plain unto you. Ye say that
he hath used sharpness; ye say that he hath been angry with you; but
behold, his sharpness was the sharpness of the power of the word of God,
which was in him; and that which ye call anger was the truth, according to
that which is in God, which he could not restrain, manifesting boldly
concerning your iniquities.
27 And it must needs be that the power of God must be with him, even unto
his commanding you that ye must obey. But behold, it was not he, but it
was the Spirit of the Lord which was in him, which opened his mouth to
utterance that he could not shut it.
My mistake, I left out the source of the verses. It's 2 Nephi 1 .
Irrelevant *****.
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12 Jun 2007 01:14:49 PM |
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Moonbat
"Christopher A.Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:g3jn631bavtfh1175utqv5cleeacbtsran@4ax.com...
On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 23:48:00 -0700, "Aaron Kim" <aaron@artbulla.com>
wrote:
"Aaron Kim" <aaron@artbulla.com> wrote in message
news:5d1l2qF32j3foU2@mid.individual.net...
As you have stated, they do not understand the wrath of God.
26 And ye have murmured because he hath been plain unto you. Ye say that
he hath used sharpness; ye say that he hath been angry with you; but
behold, his sharpness was the sharpness of the power of the word of God,
which was in him; and that which ye call anger was the truth, according
to
that which is in God, which he could not restrain, manifesting boldly
concerning your iniquities.
27 And it must needs be that the power of God must be with him, even
unto
his commanding you that ye must obey. But behold, it was not he, but it
was the Spirit of the Lord which was in him, which opened his mouth to
utterance that he could not shut it.
My mistake, I left out the source of the verses. It's 2 Nephi 1 .
Irrelevant *****.
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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10 Jun 2007 05:03:19 AM |
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On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 23:46:48 -0700, "Aaron Kim" <aaron@artbulla.com>
wrote:
As you have stated, they do not understand the wrath of God.
Liar.
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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05 Jun 2007 10:23:09 PM |
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*yaaaaaaaaaawn*
Always the same old long-debunked *****. Nothing new here. Move along
please. Thank you.
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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| User: "johac" |
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06 Jun 2007 01:29:37 AM |
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In article <5cmijjF2uicuvU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> wrote:
Life from Nonlife?
This poses a dilemma for the theory of natural evolution:
Nope. Life from nonlife, i. e. abiogenesis, has nothing to do with
evolution. Evolution is what happened next.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Art Bulla" |
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07 Jun 2007 04:13:03 PM |
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Nope, that is not what is taught. You are in denial as the dough-headed
liberal nitwit from the left you are.
From Wikepedia:
The second use of chemical EVOLUTION or chemosynthesis is as a hypothesis to
explain how life might possibly have developed or evolved from non-life (see
abiogenesis). Various experiments have been made to show certain aspects of
this process, the first ones were done by Stanley L. Miller in the 1950s.
For that they are now called Miller experiments. However only very basic
organic building blocks were obtained. The challenge is getting complex
molecules organized consistently.
The hypothesis is that simple chemical compounds could catalyze the creation
of copies of themselves (somewhat similar to the formation of a crystal or
polymer) in an environment rich with the necessary building block compounds
or elements. As these chemical replicators "reproduce", they can be created
with slightly different structures randomly, similar to biological
mutations. Eventually these replicators would produce protocells.
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-8DE99F.23293705062007@news.giganews.com...
In article <5cmijjF2uicuvU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> wrote:
Life from Nonlife?
This poses a dilemma for the theory of natural evolution:
Nope. Life from nonlife, i. e. abiogenesis, has nothing to do with
evolution. Evolution is what happened next.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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07 Jun 2007 05:38:35 PM |
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Clueless top-posting corrected:
In article <5cran3F31mh28U1@mid.individual.net> "Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> writes:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-8DE99F.23293705062007@news.giganews.com...
In article <5cmijjF2uicuvU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> wrote:
Life from Nonlife?
This poses a dilemma for the theory of natural evolution:
Nope. Life from nonlife, i. e. abiogenesis, has nothing to do with
evolution. Evolution is what happened next.
{...}
Nope, that is not what is taught. You are in denial as the dough-headed
liberal nitwit from the left you are.
From Wikepedia:
The second use of chemical EVOLUTION or chemosynthesis is as a hypothesis to
explain how life might possibly have developed or evolved from non-life (see
abiogenesis). [...]
Yep. An article on "chemical evolution". Abiogenesis. A different topic
entirely.
Unless, of course you also think that "galaxy evolution"
means Darwinian evolution and "sociocultural evolution"means
Darwinian evolution and "stellar evolution" means Darwinian
evolution and "technological evolution" means Darwinian evolution
and "time evolution" means Darwinian evolution and "oxygen
evolution" means Darwinian evolution
All of the above topics are also covered in Wikipedia. Weird
how you chose one irrelevant entry out of all the other
irrelevant entries.
-- cary
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| User: "Art Bulla" |
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08 Jun 2007 12:40:05 PM |
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1 WHY do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel
together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, [saying],
3 Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in
derision.
5 Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore
displeasure.
6 Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
7 I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my
Son; this day have I begotten thee.
8 Ask of me, and I shall give [thee] the heathen [for] thine inheritance,
and the uttermost parts of the earth [for] thy possession.
9 Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces
like a potter's vessel.
10 Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the
earth.
11 Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
12 Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish [from] the way, when his
wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed [are] all they that put their trust
in him.
(Ps 2:1-12)
"Cary Kittrell" <cary@afone.as.arizona.edu> wrote in message
news:f4a1db$b8n$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu...
Clueless top-posting corrected:
In article <5cran3F31mh28U1@mid.individual.net> "Art Bulla"
<art@artbulla.com> writes:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-8DE99F.23293705062007@news.giganews.com...
In article <5cmijjF2uicuvU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> wrote:
Life from Nonlife?
This poses a dilemma for the theory of natural evolution:
Nope. Life from nonlife, i. e. abiogenesis, has nothing to do with
evolution. Evolution is what happened next.
{...}
Nope, that is not what is taught. You are in denial as the dough-headed
liberal nitwit from the left you are.
From Wikepedia:
The second use of chemical EVOLUTION or chemosynthesis is as a hypothesis
to
explain how life might possibly have developed or evolved from non-life
(see
abiogenesis). [...]
Yep. An article on "chemical evolution". Abiogenesis. A different topic
entirely.
Unless, of course you also think that "galaxy evolution"
means Darwinian evolution and "sociocultural evolution"means
Darwinian evolution and "stellar evolution" means Darwinian
evolution and "technological evolution" means Darwinian evolution
and "time evolution" means Darwinian evolution and "oxygen
evolution" means Darwinian evolution
All of the above topics are also covered in Wikipedia. Weird
how you chose one irrelevant entry out of all the other
irrelevant entries.
-- cary
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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08 Jun 2007 01:09:26 PM |
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"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com>
1 WHY do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
Dunno, Art: why DO you rage? Inquisitive minds want to know.
Here, you may use this convenient space:
-- cary
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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08 Jun 2007 10:06:17 PM |
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On Fri, 8 Jun 2007 18:09:26 +0000 (UTC),
(Cary Kittrell) wrote:
- Refer: <f4c60m$af4$1@onion.ccit.arizona.edu>
"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com>
1 WHY do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
Dunno, Art: why DO you rage? Inquisitive minds want to know.
Here, you may use this convenient space:
Korsakoff's Syndrome.
(Amnesic-confabulatory syndrome)
--
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Exposing the Fairy Tale for Grownups |
07 Jun 2007 06:59:50 PM |
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In article <5cran3F31mh28U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> wrote:
Nope, that is not what is taught. You are in denial as the dough-headed
liberal nitwit from the left you are.
From Wikepedia:
The second use of chemical EVOLUTION
"CHEMICAL evolution..." ! You are exposing your own ignorance by
failing to understand the difference between chemistry and biology.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Art Bulla" |
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08 Jun 2007 12:43:49 PM |
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True science, the science of theology is based on hard science, such as
Chemistry, which "biology" which is many cases is nothing more than
naturalist philosophy ignores and is junk science. You need to educate
yourself on what evolution means.
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-FFDADB.16595007062007@news.giganews.com...
In article <5cran3F31mh28U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> wrote:
Nope, that is not what is taught. You are in denial as the dough-headed
liberal nitwit from the left you are.
From Wikepedia:
The second use of chemical EVOLUTION
"CHEMICAL evolution..." ! You are exposing your own ignorance by
failing to understand the difference between chemistry and biology.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Christopher Morris" |
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| Title: Re: Exposing the Fairy Tale for Grownups |
09 Jun 2007 04:35:44 AM |
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"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> wrote in message
news:5ctiqqF31vtpeU1@mid.individual.net...
True science, the science of theology is based on hard science, such as
Chemistry, which "biology" which is many cases is nothing more than
naturalist philosophy ignores and is junk science. You need to educate
yourself on what evolution means.
Art Theology is not science it is a branch of philosophy, the problem comes
when theologians try to tell scientists what they should be thinking.
Science and Religion have their own forts and they should stick to them.
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-FFDADB.16595007062007@news.giganews.com...
In article <5cran3F31mh28U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> wrote:
Nope, that is not what is taught. You are in denial as the dough-headed
liberal nitwit from the left you are.
From Wikepedia:
The second use of chemical EVOLUTION
"CHEMICAL evolution..." ! You are exposing your own ignorance by
failing to understand the difference between chemistry and biology.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "RetroProphet" |
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08 Jun 2007 12:59:15 PM |
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Nope, that is not what is taught. You are in denial
as the dough-headed liberal nitwit from the left you are.
From Wikepedia:
The second use of chemical EVOLUTION
"CHEMICAL evolution..." ! You are exposing your own ignorance by
failing to understand the difference between chemistry and biology.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
True science, the science of theology is based on hard science, such as
Chemistry, which "biology" which is many cases is nothing more than
naturalist philosophy ignores and is junk science. You need to educate
yourself on what evolution means.
Ask him what the "science of theology" is...
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| User: "Art Bulla" |
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10 Jun 2007 01:37:14 AM |
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The devil's cheerleader.
"RetroProphet" <RetroProphet_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:f4c5dj01ic@drn.newsguy.com...
Nope, that is not what is taught. You are in denial
as the dough-headed liberal nitwit from the left you are.
From Wikepedia:
The second use of chemical EVOLUTION
"CHEMICAL evolution..." ! You are exposing your own ignorance by
failing to understand the difference between chemistry and biology.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
True science, the science of theology is based on hard science, such as
Chemistry, which "biology" which is many cases is nothing more than
naturalist philosophy ignores and is junk science. You need to educate
yourself on what evolution means.
Ask him what the "science of theology" is...
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| User: "" |
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10 Jun 2007 03:42:37 PM |
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On Sat, 9 Jun 2007 23:37:14 -0700, "Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com>
wrote:
The devil's cheerleader.
If you are going to "sign in" like that, arty, why don't you actually
SAY something? We KNOW who you are already!
in the Name of Jesus,
Checker
"RetroProphet" <RetroProphet_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:f4c5dj01ic@drn.newsguy.com...
Nope, that is not what is taught. You are in denial
as the dough-headed liberal nitwit from the left you are.
From Wikepedia:
The second use of chemical EVOLUTION
"CHEMICAL evolution..." ! You are exposing your own ignorance by
failing to understand the difference between chemistry and biology.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
True science, the science of theology is based on hard science, such as
Chemistry, which "biology" which is many cases is nothing more than
naturalist philosophy ignores and is junk science. You need to educate
yourself on what evolution means.
Ask him what the "science of theology" is...
.
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| User: "Art Bulla" |
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10 Jun 2007 01:37:48 AM |
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They are not in possession of the wit necessary, fool.
"RetroProphet" <RetroProphet_member@newsguy.com> wrote in message
news:f4c5dj01ic@drn.newsguy.com...
Nope, that is not what is taught. You are in denial
as the dough-headed liberal nitwit from the left you are.
From Wikepedia:
The second use of chemical EVOLUTION
"CHEMICAL evolution..." ! You are exposing your own ignorance by
failing to understand the difference between chemistry and biology.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
True science, the science of theology is based on hard science, such as
Chemistry, which "biology" which is many cases is nothing more than
naturalist philosophy ignores and is junk science. You need to educate
yourself on what evolution means.
Ask him what the "science of theology" is...
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Exposing the Fairy Tale for Grownups |
08 Jun 2007 06:53:07 PM |
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In article <5ctiqqF31vtpeU1@mid.individual.net>,
"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> wrote:
True science, the science of theology is based on hard science, such as
Chemistry, which "biology" which is many cases is nothing more than
naturalist philosophy ignores and is junk science. You need to educate
yourself on what evolution means.
Theology is a "hard science"? If you believe that, you are an even
bigger moron.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Cary Kittrell" |
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| Title: Re: Exposing the Fairy Tale for Grownups |
08 Jun 2007 01:18:33 PM |
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Mindless top-posting corrected...
In article <5ctiqqF31vtpeU1@mid.individual.net> "Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> writes:
"johac" <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-FFDADB.16595007062007@news.giganews.com...
In article <5cran3F31mh28U1@mid.individual.net>,
"Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com> wrote:
Nope, that is not what is taught. You are in denial as the dough-headed
liberal nitwit from the left you are.
From Wikepedia:
The second use of chemical EVOLUTION
"CHEMICAL evolution..." ! You are exposing your own ignorance by
failing to understand the difference between chemistry and biology.
True science, the science of theology is based on hard science, such as
Chemistry, which "biology" which is many cases is nothing more than
naturalist philosophy ignores and is junk science. You need to educate
yourself on what evolution means.
My degree, from Duke, is in chemistry, my reading interests run
to biology, and you so far have shown little understanding
of either.
-- cary
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Exposing the Fairy Tale for Grownups |
07 Jun 2007 05:36:54 PM |
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On Thu, 7 Jun 2007 14:13:03 -0700, "Art Bulla" <art@artbulla.com>
wrote:
Nope, that is not what is taught. You are in denial as the dough-headed
liberal nitwit from the left you are.
From Wikepedia:
Now *there's* a reliable, peer-reviewed scientific journal...
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"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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