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User:	"Randy Jabsco"
Date:	20 Dec 2003 06:55:16 PM
Object:	Faggots lose again - Strong Support Is Found for Ban on Gay Marriage

Hey faggots, I'm still confused. Help me out here. Didn't you faggots say
that the tide has changed and that EVERYONE is accepting faggots now, and
that only a few minor bigots won't accept? Didn't you say the majority of
people are accepting ***** behavior? I don't understand this article, I am
very confused. Why is it that faggots can only be accepted by imposing
their will on other people and seeking out sypathetic judges to change laws
for them? How come they can't take their case to the 'majority public' in
the voting booths? Surely if EVERYONE is accepting faggots now, they should
EASILY get these laws passed on the ballots!! Why is it that 38 states now
have a consititutional ban on ***** marriages if the majority of the voters
want otherwise? Help me out here...
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http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/21/national/21GAY.html?ex=1073192400&en=a887ec494ccc1c01&ei=5004&partner=UNTD
Strong Support Is Found for Ban on Gay Marriage
The latest New York Times/CBS News poll has found widespread support for an
amendment to the United States Constitution to ban gay marriage. It also
found unease about homosexual relations in general, making the issue a
potentially divisive one for the Democrats and an opportunity for the
Republicans in the 2004 election.
Support for a constitutional amendment extends across a wide swath of the
public and includes a majority of people traditionally viewed as supportive
of gay rights, including Democrats, women and people who live on the East
Coast.
Attitudes on the subject seem to be inextricably linked to how people view
marriage itself. For a majority of Americans - 53 percent - marriage is
largely a religious matter. Seventy-one percent of those people oppose gay
marriage. Similarly, 33 percent of Americans say marriage is largely a legal
matter and a majority of those people - 55 percent - say they support gay
marriage.
The most positive feelings toward gay people were registered among
respondents under 30, and among those who knew gay people.
The nationwide poll found that 55 percent of Americans favored an amendment
to the constitution that would allow marriage only between a man and a
woman, while 40 percent opposed the idea.
The findings come after the highest court in Massachusetts ruled 4 to 3 last
month that same-sex marriage was permissible under the state's Constitution.
That ruling followed a 6-to-3 decision in late June by the United States
Supreme Court striking down antisodomy laws.
President Bush had been noncommittal about a constitutional amendment
immediately after the Massachusetts ruling, with the administration worried
that support for a ban on gay marriage would alienate moderate voters. But
last week Mr. Bush for the first time voiced his support, saying, "I will
support a constitutional amendment which would honor marriage between a man
and a woman, codify that."
The statement signals the White House's increasing confidence that it can
exploit the matter in the presidential campaign, both to energize its
evangelical supporters and to discredit the eventual Democratic nominee.
Most of the Democratic candidates oppose gay marriage but favor civil
unions. Howard Dean, who is leading in the polls for the Democratic
nomination, signed a law when he was governor of Vermont allowing civil
unions, an action that Republicans have already used to portray him as too
liberal for mainstream America.
The court rulings generated extensive publicity and concern, not only about
same-sex marriage but also about having the courts set social agendas that
have not been approved by the legislative process.
"We have found that the more people focus on it, the less they support it,"
said the Rev. Lou Sheldon, chairman of the Traditional Values Coalition,
which strongly opposes gay marriage and is working actively for a
constitutional ban.
The Times/CBS News poll was conducted from Dec. 10 through Dec. 13 in
telephone interviews with 1,057 people. It carries a margin of sampling
error of plus or minus three percentage points. Responses about gay rights
tend to be influenced somewhat by the wording of the questions.
This poll and other surveys show that as the courts have extended legal
rights to gays this year, Americans have become increasingly uncomfortable
with same-sex relations.
For decades, a majority of Americans have not approved of homosexual
relations. That had begun to change, until the Supreme Court ruling in June
and the Massachusetts ruling in November. A New York Times/CBS News poll
conducted in July found that 54 percent of respondents said homosexual
relations should be legal. Only 41 percent of the respondents in the latest
poll said they should be legal.
Richard Waters, 71, a retired elementary school teacher in Little Valley,
N.Y., and a Republican, said in a follow-up interview to the poll that he
strongly supported a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.
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User: "Jeff North"
Title: Re: How to hypnotize a man for hours!!	29 Jan 2004 07:29:53 AM

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:41:39 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality "David
Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote:
[snip]

| %%%% Go here if you are a straight male!! :o)
| http://www.corporateradiosucksass.com/freejunk/games/hypnotize.html

Simple things for simple minds, right Moffitt?
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User: "Jeff North"
Title: Re: How to hypnotize a man for hours!!	28 Jan 2004 11:41:08 PM

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:36:02 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality "David
Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote:

| "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| news:OHWRb.17342$Wc5.10948@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com...
| > "David Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote in message
| > news:btWRb.13225$SQ5.2357@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...

[snip]

| > > %%%% Not at all. The amount of straight people are very small and
| > primarily
| > > consist of IV drug users.
| >
| > The 75 million people around the world with HIV/AIDS are not mostly
| > homosexual.
|
| %%%% The discussion is in America where the majority of AIDS patients are
| homos. I see you didn't try to refute the CDC findings that 60% of the AIDS
| cases in America come from only 3% of the population!!

Where did you get the 3% figure from. It doesn't appear in the site
you listed.
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User: "David Moffitt weaselkiller@ prodigy.net"
Title: Re: How to hypnotize a man for hours!!	29 Jan 2004 06:54:02 AM

"Jeff North" <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:o37h101tuunpb69s4potsrpecle2jg7fq4@4ax.com...

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:36:02 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality "David
Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote:

[snip]

are

| homos. I see you didn't try to refute the CDC findings that 60% of the

AIDS

| cases in America come from only 3% of the population!!

Where did you get the 3% figure from. It doesn't appear in the site
you listed.

%%%% From homo claims on the net. Do you disagree with the %? OK then we
will increase the number. 60% of all AIDS cases come from the 10% of the
population that are homos.----- If true it would still prove that AIDS is
primarily a homo disease!! http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/aidsstat.htm

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User: "Jeff North"
Title: Re: How to hypnotize a man for hours!!	29 Jan 2004 07:30:56 AM

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:54:02 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality "David
Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote:

|
| "Jeff North" <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
| news:o37h101tuunpb69s4potsrpecle2jg7fq4@4ax.com...
| > On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:36:02 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality "David
| > Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote:
| > >| "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > >| news:OHWRb.17342$Wc5.10948@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com...
| > >| > "David Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote in message
| > >| > news:btWRb.13225$SQ5.2357@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...
| >
| > [snip]
| >
| > >| > > %%%% Not at all. The amount of straight people are very small and
| > >| > primarily
| > >| > > consist of IV drug users.
| > >| >
| > >| > The 75 million people around the world with HIV/AIDS are not mostly
| > >| > homosexual.
| > >|
| > >| %%%% The discussion is in America where the majority of AIDS patients
| are
| > >| homos. I see you didn't try to refute the CDC findings that 60% of the
| AIDS
| > >| cases in America come from only 3% of the population!!
| >
| > Where did you get the 3% figure from. It doesn't appear in the site
| > you listed.
|
| %%%% From homo claims on the net. Do you disagree with the %? OK then we
| will increase the number. 60% of all AIDS cases come from the 10% of the
| population that are homos.----- If true it would still prove that AIDS is
| primarily a homo disease!! http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/aidsstat.htm

I can play that game too, 100% of abortions are from the heterosexual
community, over 70% of marriage men cheat on their wives, heterosexual
divorce rate is 50% and climbing. More heterosexuals contract some for
of STD.
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User: "David Moffitt weaselkiller@ prodigy.net"
Title: Re: How to hypnotize a man for hours!!	29 Jan 2004 06:00:00 PM

"Jeff North" <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:li2i105aj6jkcnvs5m28sfruovgnlnghui@4ax.com...

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:54:02 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality "David
Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote:

|
| "Jeff North" <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
| news:o37h101tuunpb69s4potsrpecle2jg7fq4@4ax.com...
| > On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:36:02 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality

"David

| > Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote:
| > >| "Roger" <rogerfx@hotmail.com> wrote in message
| > >| news:OHWRb.17342$Wc5.10948@newssvr27.news.prodigy.com...
| > >| > "David Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote in message
| > >| > news:btWRb.13225$SQ5.2357@newssvr16.news.prodigy.com...
| >
| > [snip]
| >
| > >| > > %%%% Not at all. The amount of straight people are very small

and

| > >| > primarily
| > >| > > consist of IV drug users.
| > >| >
| > >| > The 75 million people around the world with HIV/AIDS are not

mostly

| > >| > homosexual.
| > >|
| > >| %%%% The discussion is in America where the majority of AIDS

patients

| are
| > >| homos. I see you didn't try to refute the CDC findings that 60% of

the

| will increase the number. 60% of all AIDS cases come from the 10% of

the

| population that are homos.----- If true it would still prove that AIDS

| primarily a homo disease!!

http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/aidsstat.htm

%%%% Typical. Try and change the subject when forced to admit I was right!!

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User: "Jeff North"
Title: Re: How to hypnotize a man for hours!!	30 Jan 2004 12:48:45 AM

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 00:00:00 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality "David
Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote:

| "Jeff North" <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
| news:li2i105aj6jkcnvs5m28sfruovgnlnghui@4ax.com...
| > On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:54:02 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality "David
| > Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote:

[snip]

| > >| > Where did you get the 3% figure from. It doesn't appear in the site
| > >| > you listed.
| > >|
| > >| %%%% From homo claims on the net. Do you disagree with the %? OK then
| we
| > >| will increase the number. 60% of all AIDS cases come from the 10% of
| the
| > >| population that are homos.----- If true it would still prove that AIDS
| is
| > >| primarily a homo disease!!
| http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/aidsstat.htm
| >
| > I can play that game too, 100% of abortions are from the heterosexual
| > community, over 70% of marriage men cheat on their wives, heterosexual
| > divorce rate is 50% and climbing. More heterosexuals contract some for
| > of STD.
|
| %%%% Typical. Try and change the subject when forced to admit I was right!!

You might call it changing the subject but I call it highlighting your
stupidity.
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User: "Jeff North"
Title: Re: How to hypnotize a man for hours!!	28 Jan 2004 11:39:35 PM

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:12:23 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality "David
Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote:

|
| "Jeff North" <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
| news:nd1f10t5rf8b3mgi423cqgoh2cs6p219pg@4ax.com...
| > On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 04:14:23 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality "David
| > Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote:
| SNIPPED FOR BREVITY------------------------------------------>
|
|
| > >| > >| > Oh that's right, according to Moffitt *all* gays will die from
| AIDS.
| > >| > >|
| > >| > >| %%%% Not all, but per capita many more than normal people -----
| Even
| > >| needle
| > >| > >| swapping IV drug users.
| > >| >
| > >| > Look at the *current* figures (not from 10 years ago) from CDC, what
| > >| > is the fastest growing sector contracting AIDS?
| > >|
| > >| %%%% Heterosexuals.
| >
| > Did you have a lot of trouble typing that. It must really catch in
| > your craw.
|
| %%%% Not at all. The amount of straight people are very small and primarily
| consist of IV drug users.

Keep telling yourself that Moffitt. As a person in the medical field
it is your responsibility to stay current with all medical trends and
treatments.

| > >| When you have 100 AIDS cases of which 99 are homos and 1
| > >| is straight if one more straight person gets AIDS you have a 50%
| increase.
| > >| Do the numbers Jeff. How many homos have AIDS and how many straight
| people
| > >| in America have AIDS? I'm sure you will not give a truthful answer.
| >
| > I'll rely on the official figure put out by the recognised authorities
| > thank you very much. I have no need to lie, unlike you.
|
| %%%% I have no need to lie when the truth is stronger. .
|
| January 2004
|
| HIV/AIDS IN THE UNITED STATES
|
| a.. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimate that
| 850,000 to 950,000 U.S. residents are living with HIV infection, one-quarter
| of whom are unaware of their infection.( Fleming, P.L. et al. HIV Prevalence
| in the United States, 2000. 9th Conference on Retroviruses and Opportunistic
| Infections, Seattle, Wash., Feb. 24-28, 2002. Abstract 11.)

This tells me that the education programs aren't working or that there
is still too much stigma attached to contracting AIDS.

| b.. Approximately 40,000 new HIV infections occur each year in the United
| States, about 70 percent among men and 30 percent among women. Of these
| newly infected people, half are younger than 25 years of age.
| (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). HIV and AIDS - United
| States, 1981-2001. MMWR 2001;50:430-434.)

Where are these peoples' sexual orientation and how did they contract
AIDS?

| (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). HIV Prevention Strategic
| Plan Through 2005. January 2001)

Why did you find the need to doctor the post?

| .Of new infections among men in the United States, CDC estimates that
| approximately 60 percent of men were infected through homosexual sex (3% of
| the population), 25 percent through injection drug use, and 15 percent
| through heterosexual sex.( 97% of the population) Of newly infected men,
| approximately 50 percent are black, 30 percent are white, 20 percent are
| Hispanic, and a small percentage are members of other racial/ethnic groups.
|
| (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). HIV Prevention Strategic
| Plan Through 2005. January 2001.)
|
|
| http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/aidsstat.htm

You omitted:
---------------------
The estimated number of AIDS diagnoses through 2002 in the United
States is 886,575. Adult and adolescent AIDS cases total 877,275, with
718,002 cases in males and 159,271 cases in females.
---------------------
I must congratulate you and your ilk. By constantly yelling that AIDS
is a homosexual disease you are giving the "green light" to young
heterosexuals to have unprotected sex. You and your ilk are helping to
spread AIDS through the heterosexual communities.
---------------------
Through the same time period, 9,300 AIDS cases were estimated in
children under age 13.(5)
---------------------
Are these children homosexual?

| or http://forums.about.com/ab-aids/messages?lgnF=y&msg=1263.1 A homo page
| about AIDS.
|
| %%%% Aren't government statistics a slap in the face to homosexuals!!! :o)

No, because we can actually read and decipher the information.
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User: "David Moffitt weaselkiller@ prodigy.net"
Title: Re: How to hypnotize a man for hours!!	29 Jan 2004 06:49:31 AM

"Jeff North" <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
news:286h10l98gj4hp8isk6v3h329os78qitju@4ax.com...

On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:12:23 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality "David
Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote:

|
| "Jeff North" <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
| news:nd1f10t5rf8b3mgi423cqgoh2cs6p219pg@4ax.com...
| > On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 04:14:23 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality

"David

from

| AIDS.
| > >| > >|
| > >| > >| %%%% Not all, but per capita many more than normal

people -----

| Even
| > >| needle
| > >| > >| swapping IV drug users.
| > >| >
| > >| > Look at the *current* figures (not from 10 years ago) from CDC,

what

| > >| > is the fastest growing sector contracting AIDS?
| > >|
| > >| %%%% Heterosexuals.
| >
| > Did you have a lot of trouble typing that. It must really catch in
| > your craw.
|
| %%%% Not at all. The amount of straight people are very small and

primarily

| consist of IV drug users.

Keep telling yourself that Moffitt. As a person in the medical field
it is your responsibility to stay current with all medical trends and
treatments.

%%%% What? Do you know something the CDC doesn't?

straight

| people
| > >| in America have AIDS? I'm sure you will not give a truthful

answer.

| >
| > I'll rely on the official figure put out by the recognised

authorities

| > thank you very much. I have no need to lie, unlike you.
|
| %%%% I have no need to lie when the truth is stronger. .
|
| January 2004
|
| HIV/AIDS IN THE UNITED STATES
|
| a.. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimate

that

| 850,000 to 950,000 U.S. residents are living with HIV infection,

one-quarter

| of whom are unaware of their infection.( Fleming, P.L. et al. HIV

Prevalence

| in the United States, 2000. 9th Conference on Retroviruses and

Opportunistic

| Infections, Seattle, Wash., Feb. 24-28, 2002. Abstract 11.)

This tells me that the education programs aren't working or that there
is still too much stigma attached to contracting AIDS.

%%%% Yes there is a stigma attatched to dying horribly.

| b.. Approximately 40,000 new HIV infections occur each year in the

United

| States, about 70 percent among men and 30 percent among women. Of these
| newly infected people, half are younger than 25 years of age.
| (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). HIV and AIDS -

United

| States, 1981-2001. MMWR 2001;50:430-434.)

Where are these peoples' sexual orientation and how did they contract
AIDS?

| (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). HIV Prevention

Strategic

| Plan Through 2005. January 2001)

Why did you find the need to doctor the post?

%%%% I didn't doctor them. I only posted the source from the bibliograpy for
each claim.

| .Of new infections among men in the United States, CDC estimates that
| approximately 60 percent of men were infected through homosexual sex

(3% of

| the population), 25 percent through injection drug use, and 15 percent
| through heterosexual sex.( 97% of the population) Of newly infected

men,

| approximately 50 percent are black, 30 percent are white, 20 percent

are

| Hispanic, and a small percentage are members of other racial/ethnic

groups.

|
| (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). HIV Prevention

Strategic

| Plan Through 2005. January 2001.)
|
|
| http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/aidsstat.htm

You omitted:
---------------------
The estimated number of AIDS diagnoses through 2002 in the United
States is 886,575. Adult and adolescent AIDS cases total 877,275, with
718,002 cases in males and 159,271 cases in females.
---------------------

I must congratulate you and your ilk. By constantly yelling that AIDS
is a homosexual disease you are giving the "green light" to young
heterosexuals to have unprotected sex. You and your ilk are helping to
spread AIDS through the heterosexual communities.

%%%% 60% of the AIDS cases come from the 3% of the population that is
homosexual.

---------------------
Through the same time period, 9,300 AIDS cases were estimated in
children under age 13.(5)
---------------------
Are these children homosexual?

%%%% Children born to mothers with AIDS. Do you reasearch further and you
will find that thy are IV drug users.

| or http://forums.about.com/ab-aids/messages?lgnF=y&msg=1263.1 A homo

page

| about AIDS.
|
| %%%% Aren't government statistics a slap in the face to homosexuals!!!

:o)

No, because we can actually read and decipher the information.

%%%% They slap the face of every homo that tries to hide the fact that is is
primarily a homo disease. 60% of the cases come from 3% of the population.

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User: "Jeff North"
Title: Re: How to hypnotize a man for hours!!	29 Jan 2004 07:49:54 AM

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:49:31 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality "David
Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote:

[snip]

| > >| > >| > Look at the *current* figures (not from 10 years ago) from CDC,
| > >| > >| > what is the fastest growing sector contracting AIDS?
| > >| > >|
| > >| > >| %%%% Heterosexuals.
| > >| >
| > >| > Did you have a lot of trouble typing that. It must really catch in
| > >| > your craw.
| > >|
| > >| %%%% Not at all. The amount of straight people are very small and
| > >| primarily consist of IV drug users.
| >
| > Keep telling yourself that Moffitt. As a person in the medical field
| > it is your responsibility to stay current with all medical trends and
| > treatments.
|
| %%%% What? Do you know something the CDC doesn't?

Obviously I know more than you.
[snip]

| > >| January 2004
| > >|
| > >| HIV/AIDS IN THE UNITED STATES
| > >|
| > >| a.. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) estimate
| that
| > >| 850,000 to 950,000 U.S. residents are living with HIV infection,
| one-quarter
| > >| of whom are unaware of their infection.( Fleming, P.L. et al. HIV
| Prevalence
| > >| in the United States, 2000. 9th Conference on Retroviruses and
| Opportunistic
| > >| Infections, Seattle, Wash., Feb. 24-28, 2002. Abstract 11.)
| >
| > This tells me that the education programs aren't working or that there
| > is still too much stigma attached to contracting AIDS.
|
| %%%% Yes there is a stigma attatched to dying horribly.

Your ilk is the cause of this mis-information.
[snip]

| > Why did you find the need to doctor the post?
|
| %%%% I didn't doctor them. I only posted the source from the bibliograpy for
| each claim.

Lying again Moffitt?

| > >| .Of new infections among men in the United States, CDC estimates that
| > >| approximately 60 percent of men were infected through homosexual sex
| (3% of

^^^^^^

| > >| the population), 25 percent through injection drug use, and 15 percent

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

| > >| through heterosexual sex.( 97% of the population) Of newly infected

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

| men,
| > >| approximately 50 percent are black, 30 percent are white, 20 percent
| are
| > >| Hispanic, and a small percentage are members of other racial/ethnic
| groups.
| > >|
| > >| (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). HIV Prevention
| Strategic
| > >| Plan Through 2005. January 2001.)
| > >|
| > >|
| > >| http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/aidsstat.htm
| >
| > You omitted:
| > ---------------------
| > The estimated number of AIDS diagnoses through 2002 in the United
| > States is 886,575. Adult and adolescent AIDS cases total 877,275, with
| > 718,002 cases in males and 159,271 cases in females.
| > ---------------------
| >
| > I must congratulate you and your ilk. By constantly yelling that AIDS
| > is a homosexual disease you are giving the "green light" to young
| > heterosexuals to have unprotected sex. You and your ilk are helping to
| > spread AIDS through the heterosexual communities.
|
| %%%% 60% of the AIDS cases come from the 3% of the population that is
| homosexual.

More lies Moffitt.

Nice stereotyping there. Not all children with AIDS are born to drug
using mothers.

| > >| or http://forums.about.com/ab-aids/messages?lgnF=y&msg=1263.1 A homo
| page
| > >| about AIDS.
| > >|
| > >| %%%% Aren't government statistics a slap in the face to homosexuals!!!
| :o)
| >
| > No, because we can actually read and decipher the information.
|
| %%%% They slap the face of every homo that tries to hide the fact that is is
| primarily a homo disease. 60% of the cases come from 3% of the population.

Where are the official figures for the 3% homosexual population?
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User: "David Moffitt weaselkiller@ prodigy.net"
Title: Re: How to hypnotize a man for hours!!	29 Jan 2004 06:07:11 PM

"Jeff North" <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:49:31 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality "David
Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote:

| "Jeff North" <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
| news:286h10l98gj4hp8isk6v3h329os78qitju@4ax.com...
| > On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:12:23 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality

"David

[snip]

| > >| > >| > Look at the *current* figures (not from 10 years ago) from

CDC,

| > >| > >| > what is the fastest growing sector contracting AIDS?
| > >| > >|
| > >| > >| %%%% Heterosexuals.
| > >| >
| > >| > Did you have a lot of trouble typing that. It must really catch

| > >| > your craw.
| > >|
| > >| %%%% Not at all. The amount of straight people are very small and
| > >| primarily consist of IV drug users.
| >
| > Keep telling yourself that Moffitt. As a person in the medical field
| > it is your responsibility to stay current with all medical trends and
| > treatments.
|
| %%%% What? Do you know something the CDC doesn't?

Obviously I know more than you.

%%%% Such as_____________ ?

[snip]

| > >| January 2004
| > >|
| > >| HIV/AIDS IN THE UNITED STATES
| > >|
| > >| a.. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)

estimate

there

| > is still too much stigma attached to contracting AIDS.
|
| %%%% Yes there is a stigma attatched to dying horribly.

Your ilk is the cause of this mis-information.

%%%% You dispute what the CDC said?

[snip]

| > Why did you find the need to doctor the post?
|
| %%%% I didn't doctor them. I only posted the source from the

bibliograpy for

| each claim.

Lying again Moffitt?

| > >| .Of new infections among men in the United States, CDC estimates

that

| > >| approximately 60 percent of men were infected through homosexual

sex

| (3% of

^^^^^^

| > >| the population), 25 percent through injection drug use, and 15

percent

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

| > >| through heterosexual sex.( 97% of the population) Of newly

infected

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

| men,
| > >| approximately 50 percent are black, 30 percent are white, 20

percent

| are
| > >| Hispanic, and a small percentage are members of other

racial/ethnic

| groups.
| > >|
| > >| (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). HIV Prevention
| Strategic
| > >| Plan Through 2005. January 2001.)
| > >|
| > >|
| > >| http://www.niaid.nih.gov/factsheets/aidsstat.htm
| >
| > You omitted:
| > ---------------------
| > The estimated number of AIDS diagnoses through 2002 in the United
| > States is 886,575. Adult and adolescent AIDS cases total 877,275,

with

| > 718,002 cases in males and 159,271 cases in females.
| > ---------------------
| >
| > I must congratulate you and your ilk. By constantly yelling that AIDS
| > is a homosexual disease you are giving the "green light" to young
| > heterosexuals to have unprotected sex. You and your ilk are helping

| > spread AIDS through the heterosexual communities.
|
| %%%% 60% of the AIDS cases come from the 3% of the population that is
| homosexual.

More lies Moffitt.

you

| will find that thy are IV drug users.

Nice stereotyping there. Not all children with AIDS are born to drug
using mothers.

| > >| or http://forums.about.com/ab-aids/messages?lgnF=y&msg=1263.1 A

homo

| page
| > >| about AIDS.
| > >|
| > >| %%%% Aren't government statistics a slap in the face to

homosexuals!!!

| :o)
| >
| > No, because we can actually read and decipher the information.
|
| %%%% They slap the face of every homo that tries to hide the fact that

is is

| primarily a homo disease. 60% of the cases come from 3% of the

population.

User: "Jeff North"
Title: Re: How to hypnotize a man for hours!!	30 Jan 2004 12:52:14 AM

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 00:07:11 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality "David
Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote:

| "Jeff North" <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
| news:713i10dc39dvht168bhtm5n0q58rgd05bi@4ax.com...

[snip]

| > >| > This tells me that the education programs aren't working or that
| > >| > there is still too much stigma attached to contracting AIDS.
| > >|
| > >| %%%% Yes there is a stigma attatched to dying horribly.
| >
| > Your ilk is the cause of this mis-information.
|
| %%%% You dispute what the CDC said?

A rock has more intelligence than you.
Now read above, where have I disputed the CDC figures, heh.
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User: "David Moffitt weaselkiller@ prodigy.net"
Title: Re: How to hypnotize a man for hours!!	30 Jan 2004 06:20:11 AM

"Jeff North" <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 00:07:11 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality "David
Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote:

| "Jeff North" <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
| news:713i10dc39dvht168bhtm5n0q58rgd05bi@4ax.com...

[snip]

A rock has more intelligence than you.
Now read above, where have I disputed the CDC figures, heh.

%%%% Quote:
"Your ilk is the cause of this mis-information" How is quoting the CDC
"mis-information" Jeff? ------- Doesn't dying horribly have a stigma to it?
:o)

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User: "Jeff North"
Title: Re: How to hypnotize a man for hours!!	30 Jan 2004 05:00:22 PM

On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:20:11 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality "David
Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote:

| "Jeff North" <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
| news:6ivj10pj2g5pc13dt5508lpq2sfcrqnij5@4ax.com...
| > On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 00:07:11 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality "David
| > Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote:
| > >| "Jeff North" <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
| > >| news:713i10dc39dvht168bhtm5n0q58rgd05bi@4ax.com...
| >
| > [snip]
| >
| > >| > >| > This tells me that the education programs aren't working or that
| > >| > >| > there is still too much stigma attached to contracting AIDS.
| > >| > >|
| > >| > >| %%%% Yes there is a stigma attatched to dying horribly.
| > >| >
| > >| > Your ilk is the cause of this mis-information.
| > >|
| > >| %%%% You dispute what the CDC said?
| >
| > A rock has more intelligence than you.
| > Now read above, where have I disputed the CDC figures, heh.
|
| %%%% Quote:
| "Your ilk is the cause of this mis-information" How is quoting the CDC
| "mis-information" Jeff? -------
| :o)

You still haven't shown where I disputed the CDC figures.

| Doesn't dying horribly have a stigma to it?

In a few cases yes. In most other cases no.
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User: "Ward Stewart"
Title: Re: How to hypnotize a man for hours!!	29 Jan 2004 01:32:13 PM

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 13:49:54 GMT, Jeff North
<jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote:

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:49:31 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality "David
Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote:

[snip]

Obviously I know more than you.

BFD Cobblerocks know more than he does!
ward

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rights that you enjoy go way beyond what the
Constitution requires."
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User: "Jeff North"
Title: Re: How to hypnotize a man for hours!!	29 Jan 2004 04:22:54 PM

On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 19:32:13 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality Ward
Stewart <wstewart@hawaii.rr.com> wrote:

| On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 13:49:54 GMT, Jeff North
| <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote:
|
| >On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 12:49:31 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality "David
| >Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote:

[snip]

So true.
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User: "Roger"
Title: Re: How to hypnotize a man for hours!!	28 Jan 2004 11:46:40 PM

"Jeff North" <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:12:23 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality "David
Moffitt" <weaselkiller@ prodigy.net> wrote:

|
| "Jeff North" <jnorth@yourpantsbigpond.net.au> wrote in message
| news:nd1f10t5rf8b3mgi423cqgoh2cs6p219pg@4ax.com...
| > On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 04:14:23 GMT, in alt.politics.homosexuality

"David

from

| AIDS.
| > >| > >|
| > >| > >| %%%% Not all, but per capita many more than normal

people -----

| Even
| > >| needle
| > >| > >| swapping IV drug users.
| > >| >
| > >| > Look at the *current* figures (not from 10 years ago) from CDC,

what

primarily

| consist of IV drug users.

Keep telling yourself that Moffitt. As a person in the medical field
it is your responsibility to stay current with all medical trends and
treatments.

How could someone in the medical field hate people so much?

straight

| people
| > >| in America have AIDS? I'm sure you will not give a truthful

answer.

| >
| > I'll rely on the official figure put out by the recognised

authorities

that

| 850,000 to 950,000 U.S. residents are living with HIV infection,

one-quarter

| of whom are unaware of their infection.( Fleming, P.L. et al. HIV

Prevalence

| in the United States, 2000. 9th Conference on Retroviruses and

Opportunistic

| Infections, Seattle, Wash., Feb. 24-28, 2002. Abstract 11.)

This tells me that the education programs aren't working or that there
is still too much stigma attached to contracting AIDS.

| b.. Approximately 40,000 new HIV infections occur each year in the

United

| States, 1981-2001. MMWR 2001;50:430