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"L. Raymond" |
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03 Oct 2006 11:17:15 PM |
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Fahrenheit 451 vs. the Bible |
In a Conroe, just north of Houston, a parent has filed a complaint
against Fahrenheit 451 to have it removed from his 15 year old
daughter's school. The daughter was just on the news and was asked why
she was upset by the book. "They burned the Bible." The reporter
pointed out that a lot of other books were burned, too. The student
said, "Yeah, but they took God's name in vain."
The news showed some excerpts from the father's official complaint,
and it listed "cigarettes" and "talking about our firemen", presumably
disrespectfully. He dutifully gave page numbers for these and for all
the vile cussing and blasphemy that went on.
Now the good news. The other students at this school have started a
petition drive in support of the book and have plans for a peaceful
protest on Friday, when they'll wear shirts to express their opinions.
I hope this is yet another little step towards making it clear to
society at large that the fundies really are nuts and absolutely can't
be humored in all their whims.
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L. Raymond
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| User: "Lisbeth Andersson" |
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| Title: Re: Fahrenheit 451 vs. the Bible |
04 Oct 2006 05:41:19 PM |
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"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in
news:10mbzoxqmg8t3$.10jry0oi2b5qd.dlg@40tude.net:
<...>
Now the good news. The other students at this school have
started a
petition drive in support of the book and have plans for a
peaceful protest on Friday, when they'll wear shirts to express
their opinions. I hope this is yet another little step towards
making it clear to society at large that the fundies really are
nuts and absolutely can't be humored in all their whims.
Some might even go further than that and actually read the book. :-)
Telling kids not to do something is supposed to be the surest way of
making them do it.
Maybe I should find a copy, I cannot remember that it was anything
special about it, but it has been a very long time since I read it.
Lisbeth.
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The day I don't learn anything new is the day I die.
*What we know is not nearly as interesting as *how we know it.
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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04 Oct 2006 06:56:42 PM |
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Lisbeth Andersson wrote:
Maybe I should find a copy, I cannot remember that it was anything
special about it, but it has been a very long time since I read it.
Probably the most important part of the book is when the fire chief
explains how official censorship was totally unnecessary when society
decided to censor itself so as not to offend anyone.
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L. Raymond
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| User: "Denis Loubet" |
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| Title: Re: Fahrenheit 451 vs. the Bible |
04 Oct 2006 12:12:47 AM |
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"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in message
news:10mbzoxqmg8t3$.10jry0oi2b5qd.dlg@40tude.net...
In a Conroe, just north of Houston, a parent has filed a complaint
against Fahrenheit 451 to have it removed from his 15 year old
daughter's school. The daughter was just on the news and was asked why
she was upset by the book. "They burned the Bible." The reporter
pointed out that a lot of other books were burned, too. The student
said, "Yeah, but they took God's name in vain."
The news showed some excerpts from the father's official complaint,
and it listed "cigarettes" and "talking about our firemen", presumably
disrespectfully. He dutifully gave page numbers for these and for all
the vile cussing and blasphemy that went on.
Now the good news. The other students at this school have started a
petition drive in support of the book and have plans for a peaceful
protest on Friday, when they'll wear shirts to express their opinions.
I hope this is yet another little step towards making it clear to
society at large that the fundies really are nuts and absolutely can't
be humored in all their whims.
And the irony is so thick it's a wonder they can breath.
--
Denis Loubet
dloubet@io.com
http//www.io.com/~dloubet
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| User: "L. Raymond" |
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| Title: Re: Fahrenheit 451 vs. the Bible |
04 Oct 2006 02:17:25 AM |
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Denis Loubet wrote:
"L. Raymond" wrote
In a Conroe, just north of Houston, a parent has filed a complaint
against Fahrenheit 451 to have it removed from his 15 year old
daughter's school. The daughter was just on the news and was asked why
she was upset by the book. "They burned the Bible." The reporter
pointed out that a lot of other books were burned, too. The student
said, "Yeah, but they took God's name in vain."
The news showed some excerpts from the father's official complaint,
and it listed "cigarettes" and "talking about our firemen", presumably
disrespectfully. He dutifully gave page numbers for these and for all
the vile cussing and blasphemy that went on.
Now the good news. The other students at this school have started a
petition drive in support of the book and have plans for a peaceful
protest on Friday, when they'll wear shirts to express their opinions.
I hope this is yet another little step towards making it clear to
society at large that the fundies really are nuts and absolutely can't
be humored in all their whims.
And the irony is so thick it's a wonder they can breath.
Neither the reporter at the school nor the one in the studio could
resist commenting on that. My copy has an essay at the back in which
Bradbury recounts all the time people have tried to censor or ban his
book. The schools should make that edition required reading.
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L. Raymond
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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04 Oct 2006 01:17:11 AM |
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"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in news:10mbzoxqmg8t3
$.10jry0oi2b5qd.dlg@40tude.net:
In a Conroe, just north of Houston, a parent has filed a complaint
against Fahrenheit 451 to have it removed from his 15 year old
daughter's school.
This is too good! Elroy . . . Elroy, is that you?
--
Enkidu AA#2165
http://www.thoughts.leaddogs.org/
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
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| User: "Pastor Kutchie" |
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| Title: Re: Fahrenheit 451 vs. the Bible |
04 Oct 2006 06:02:46 AM |
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Enkidu wrote:
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote in news:10mbzoxqmg8t3
$.10jry0oi2b5qd.dlg@40tude.net:
In a Conroe, just north of Houston, a parent has filed a complaint
against Fahrenheit 451 to have it removed from his 15 year old
daughter's school.
This is too good! Elroy . . . Elroy, is that you?
If wishes were horses.....
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| User: "johac" |
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04 Oct 2006 06:24:25 AM |
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In article <10mbzoxqmg8t3$.10jry0oi2b5qd.dlg@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
In a Conroe, just north of Houston, a parent has filed a complaint
against Fahrenheit 451 to have it removed from his 15 year old
daughter's school. The daughter was just on the news and was asked why
she was upset by the book. "They burned the Bible." The reporter
pointed out that a lot of other books were burned, too. The student
said, "Yeah, but they took God's name in vain."
The news showed some excerpts from the father's official complaint,
and it listed "cigarettes" and "talking about our firemen", presumably
disrespectfully. He dutifully gave page numbers for these and for all
the vile cussing and blasphemy that went on.
Now the good news. The other students at this school have started a
petition drive in support of the book and have plans for a peaceful
protest on Friday, when they'll wear shirts to express their opinions.
I hope this is yet another little step towards making it clear to
society at large that the fundies really are nuts and absolutely can't
be humored in all their whims.
So when are they going to burn Bradbury's books? I think that there is
more than just a little touch of irony here.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Liz" |
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04 Oct 2006 12:04:25 PM |
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On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:24:25 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> in
news message <jhachmann-F746D1.23242503102006@news.giganews.com>
wrote:
In article <10mbzoxqmg8t3$.10jry0oi2b5qd.dlg@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
In a Conroe, just north of Houston, a parent has filed a complaint
against Fahrenheit 451 to have it removed from his 15 year old
daughter's school. The daughter was just on the news and was asked why
she was upset by the book. "They burned the Bible." The reporter
pointed out that a lot of other books were burned, too. The student
said, "Yeah, but they took God's name in vain."
The news showed some excerpts from the father's official complaint,
and it listed "cigarettes" and "talking about our firemen", presumably
disrespectfully.
. . . which shows that not only has the father not read the book, but
has no idea what it is about. It is unfortunate that it has become
commonplace to see someone so publicly and proudly declare his
stupidity.
He dutifully gave page numbers for these and for all
the vile cussing and blasphemy that went on.
Now the good news. The other students at this school have started a
petition drive in support of the book and have plans for a peaceful
protest on Friday, when they'll wear shirts to express their opinions.
I hope this is yet another little step towards making it clear to
society at large that the fundies really are nuts and absolutely can't
be humored in all their whims.
So when are they going to burn Bradbury's books? I think that there is
more than just a little touch of irony here.
You are master of the understatement.
Überwench #658 Now a *real* atheist!
Dame Liz the Undaunted Ath.D BAAWA
Charter Member of SMASH
and Queen of the known universe
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| User: "The Doge of St. Louis" |
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05 Oct 2006 03:57:57 AM |
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In article <cf87i2hobensa8irmtl4cn62d6t4cp79an@4ax.com>,
Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
. . . which shows that not only has the father not read the book, but
has no idea what it is about. It is unfortunate that it has become
commonplace to see someone so publicly and proudly declare his
stupidity.
What's even more distressing is that school administrators have become
so craven that they'll cave in to one or two ignorant nutters with an
axe to grind.
Similar things have happened here in Missouri. It doesn't matter what
the majority might think; a handful of sexually-obsessed theofascisti
can get books banned and teachers fired for anything they find offensive
- a category that appears to take in most of the output of Western
civilization and pretty much anything written or thought since the
Renaissance.
--
<*> ObQuote: "Mammals claiming to have divine authority are serious pests." - Christopher Hitchens
======================================================================
<*> The_Doge of St. Louis Stage, screen, radio
http://www.pobox.com/~thedoge/ http://www.stageleft.org
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: Fahrenheit 451 vs. the Bible |
05 Oct 2006 10:46:13 AM |
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On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 03:57:57 GMT, "The Doge of St. Louis"
<NOSPAMthedoge@pobox.com> in news message
<NOSPAMthedoge-69E0E1.22575604102006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>
wrote:
In article <cf87i2hobensa8irmtl4cn62d6t4cp79an@4ax.com>,
Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
. . . which shows that not only has the father not read the book, but
has no idea what it is about. It is unfortunate that it has become
commonplace to see someone so publicly and proudly declare his
stupidity.
What's even more distressing is that school administrators have become
so craven that they'll cave in to one or two ignorant nutters with an
axe to grind.
Similar things have happened here in Missouri. It doesn't matter what
the majority might think; a handful of sexually-obsessed theofascisti
can get books banned and teachers fired for anything they find offensive
- a category that appears to take in most of the output of Western
civilization and pretty much anything written or thought since the
Renaissance.
Anything with 'bad' words, violence, blasphemy, sex of any type,
homosexuality, witchcraft, feminism, tolerance, or religion other than
fundamentalist Christianity would be excluded. I believe the only
book left would be "My Pet Goat".
Liz #658 BAAWA
Religion may in most of its forms be defined as the
belief that the gods are on the side of the government.
-- Bertrand Russell
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| User: "stoney" |
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08 Oct 2006 04:46:53 PM |
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On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 06:46:13 -0400, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in
alt.atheism
On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 03:57:57 GMT, "The Doge of St. Louis"
<NOSPAMthedoge@pobox.com> in news message
<NOSPAMthedoge-69E0E1.22575604102006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>
wrote:
In article <cf87i2hobensa8irmtl4cn62d6t4cp79an@4ax.com>,
Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
. . . which shows that not only has the father not read the book, but
has no idea what it is about. It is unfortunate that it has become
commonplace to see someone so publicly and proudly declare his
stupidity.
What's even more distressing is that school administrators have become
so craven that they'll cave in to one or two ignorant nutters with an
axe to grind.
Similar things have happened here in Missouri. It doesn't matter what
the majority might think; a handful of sexually-obsessed theofascisti
can get books banned and teachers fired for anything they find offensive
- a category that appears to take in most of the output of Western
civilization and pretty much anything written or thought since the
Renaissance.
Anything with 'bad' words, violence, blasphemy, sex of any type,
homosexuality, witchcraft, feminism, tolerance, or religion other than
fundamentalist Christianity would be excluded. I believe the only
book left would be "My Pet Goat".
That would be broiled as well.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "johac" |
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05 Oct 2006 05:36:58 AM |
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In article <cf87i2hobensa8irmtl4cn62d6t4cp79an@4ax.com>,
Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote:
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:24:25 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> in
news message <jhachmann-F746D1.23242503102006@news.giganews.com>
wrote:
In article <10mbzoxqmg8t3$.10jry0oi2b5qd.dlg@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
In a Conroe, just north of Houston, a parent has filed a complaint
against Fahrenheit 451 to have it removed from his 15 year old
daughter's school. The daughter was just on the news and was asked why
she was upset by the book. "They burned the Bible." The reporter
pointed out that a lot of other books were burned, too. The student
said, "Yeah, but they took God's name in vain."
The news showed some excerpts from the father's official complaint,
and it listed "cigarettes" and "talking about our firemen", presumably
disrespectfully.
. . . which shows that not only has the father not read the book, but
has no idea what it is about. It is unfortunate that it has become
commonplace to see someone so publicly and proudly declare his
stupidity.
That doesn't stop the fanatics though. They wear their bigotry,
ignorance, and stupidity like badges.
He dutifully gave page numbers for these and for all
the vile cussing and blasphemy that went on.
Now the good news. The other students at this school have started a
petition drive in support of the book and have plans for a peaceful
protest on Friday, when they'll wear shirts to express their opinions.
I hope this is yet another little step towards making it clear to
society at large that the fundies really are nuts and absolutely can't
be humored in all their whims.
So when are they going to burn Bradbury's books? I think that there is
more than just a little touch of irony here.
You are master of the understatement.
Well, I try..
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Fahrenheit 451 vs. the Bible |
08 Oct 2006 04:45:00 PM |
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On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 08:04:25 -0400, Liz <ehuth1@donotspam.com> wrote in
alt.atheism
On Tue, 03 Oct 2006 23:24:25 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> in
news message <jhachmann-F746D1.23242503102006@news.giganews.com>
wrote:
In article <10mbzoxqmg8t3$.10jry0oi2b5qd.dlg@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
In a Conroe, just north of Houston, a parent has filed a complaint
against Fahrenheit 451 to have it removed from his 15 year old
daughter's school. The daughter was just on the news and was asked why
she was upset by the book. "They burned the Bible." The reporter
pointed out that a lot of other books were burned, too. The student
said, "Yeah, but they took God's name in vain."
The news showed some excerpts from the father's official complaint,
and it listed "cigarettes" and "talking about our firemen", presumably
disrespectfully.
. . . which shows that not only has the father not read the book, but
has no idea what it is about. It is unfortunate that it has become
commonplace to see someone so publicly and proudly declare his
stupidity.
Which is all too often praised. :\
He dutifully gave page numbers for these and for all
the vile cussing and blasphemy that went on.
Now the good news. The other students at this school have started a
petition drive in support of the book and have plans for a peaceful
protest on Friday, when they'll wear shirts to express their opinions.
I hope this is yet another little step towards making it clear to
society at large that the fundies really are nuts and absolutely can't
be humored in all their whims.
So when are they going to burn Bradbury's books? I think that there is
more than just a little touch of irony here.
You are master of the understatement.
How do these people manage to 'breathe?'
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "L. Raymond" |
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04 Oct 2006 04:02:35 PM |
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johac wrote:
So when are they going to burn Bradbury's books? I think that there is
more than just a little touch of irony here.
I had forgotten I gave away my copy of 451 which had Bradbury's essay
on censorship in it, but I found it here:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga/page451/raybradbury.html
This should be read by everyone, especially by those who don't think
that trying to make a story less offensive is censorship.
[Excerpts]
The point is obvious. There is more than one way to burn a book. And
the world is full of people running about with lit matches. Every
minority, be it Baptist / Unitarian, Irish / Italian / Octogenarian /
Zen Buddhist, Zionist/Seventh-day Adventist, Women's Lib/Republican,
Mattachine/FourSquareGospel feel it has the will, the right, the duty to
douse the kerosene, light the fuse. Every dimwit editor who sees himself
as the source of all dreary blanc-mange plain porridge unleavened
literature, licks his guillotine and eyes the neck of any author who
dares to speak above a whisper or write above a nursery rhyme.
If teachers and grammar school editors find my jawbreaker sentences
shatter their mushmild teeth, let them eat stale cake dunked in weak tea
of their own ungodly manufacture.
In sum, do not insult me with the beheadings, finger-choppings or the
lung-deflations you plan for my works. I need my head to shake or nod,
my hand to wave or make into a fist, my lungs to shout or whisper with.
I will not go gently onto a shelf, degutted, to become a non-book.
--
L. Raymond
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| User: "johac" |
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05 Oct 2006 05:30:11 AM |
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In article <6tfmt1l521xf.hg2bpwshnqqa.dlg@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
johac wrote:
So when are they going to burn Bradbury's books? I think that there is
more than just a little touch of irony here.
I had forgotten I gave away my copy of 451 which had Bradbury's essay
on censorship in it, but I found it here:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga/page451/raybradbury.html
This should be read by everyone, especially by those who don't think
that trying to make a story less offensive is censorship.
[Excerpts]
The point is obvious. There is more than one way to burn a book. And
the world is full of people running about with lit matches. Every
minority, be it Baptist / Unitarian, Irish / Italian / Octogenarian /
Zen Buddhist, Zionist/Seventh-day Adventist, Women's Lib/Republican,
Mattachine/FourSquareGospel feel it has the will, the right, the duty to
douse the kerosene, light the fuse. Every dimwit editor who sees himself
as the source of all dreary blanc-mange plain porridge unleavened
literature, licks his guillotine and eyes the neck of any author who
dares to speak above a whisper or write above a nursery rhyme.
If teachers and grammar school editors find my jawbreaker sentences
shatter their mushmild teeth, let them eat stale cake dunked in weak tea
of their own ungodly manufacture.
In sum, do not insult me with the beheadings, finger-choppings or the
lung-deflations you plan for my works. I need my head to shake or nod,
my hand to wave or make into a fist, my lungs to shout or whisper with.
I will not go gently onto a shelf, degutted, to become a non-book.
Exactly. If everyone had the power to eliminate anything they might find
objectionable in any book the libraries would be full of blank pages.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Fahrenheit 451 vs. the Bible |
08 Oct 2006 04:57:14 PM |
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On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 22:30:11 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <6tfmt1l521xf.hg2bpwshnqqa.dlg@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
johac wrote:
So when are they going to burn Bradbury's books? I think that there is
more than just a little touch of irony here.
I had forgotten I gave away my copy of 451 which had Bradbury's essay
on censorship in it, but I found it here:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga/page451/raybradbury.html
This should be read by everyone, especially by those who don't think
that trying to make a story less offensive is censorship.
[Excerpts]
The point is obvious. There is more than one way to burn a book. And
the world is full of people running about with lit matches. Every
minority, be it Baptist / Unitarian, Irish / Italian / Octogenarian /
Zen Buddhist, Zionist/Seventh-day Adventist, Women's Lib/Republican,
Mattachine/FourSquareGospel feel it has the will, the right, the duty to
douse the kerosene, light the fuse. Every dimwit editor who sees himself
as the source of all dreary blanc-mange plain porridge unleavened
literature, licks his guillotine and eyes the neck of any author who
dares to speak above a whisper or write above a nursery rhyme.
If teachers and grammar school editors find my jawbreaker sentences
shatter their mushmild teeth, let them eat stale cake dunked in weak tea
of their own ungodly manufacture.
In sum, do not insult me with the beheadings, finger-choppings or the
lung-deflations you plan for my works. I need my head to shake or nod,
my hand to wave or make into a fist, my lungs to shout or whisper with.
I will not go gently onto a shelf, degutted, to become a non-book.
Exactly. If everyone had the power to eliminate anything they might find
objectionable in any book the libraries would be full of blank pages.
And people would grumble about that!
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Fahrenheit 451 vs. the Bible |
09 Oct 2006 06:29:39 AM |
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In article <rebii2lrne350smmu3l2jimullcj284idc@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 22:30:11 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <6tfmt1l521xf.hg2bpwshnqqa.dlg@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
johac wrote:
So when are they going to burn Bradbury's books? I think that there is
more than just a little touch of irony here.
I had forgotten I gave away my copy of 451 which had Bradbury's essay
on censorship in it, but I found it here:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga/page451/raybradbury.html
This should be read by everyone, especially by those who don't think
that trying to make a story less offensive is censorship.
[Excerpts]
The point is obvious. There is more than one way to burn a book. And
the world is full of people running about with lit matches. Every
minority, be it Baptist / Unitarian, Irish / Italian / Octogenarian /
Zen Buddhist, Zionist/Seventh-day Adventist, Women's Lib/Republican,
Mattachine/FourSquareGospel feel it has the will, the right, the duty to
douse the kerosene, light the fuse. Every dimwit editor who sees himself
as the source of all dreary blanc-mange plain porridge unleavened
literature, licks his guillotine and eyes the neck of any author who
dares to speak above a whisper or write above a nursery rhyme.
If teachers and grammar school editors find my jawbreaker sentences
shatter their mushmild teeth, let them eat stale cake dunked in weak tea
of their own ungodly manufacture.
In sum, do not insult me with the beheadings, finger-choppings or the
lung-deflations you plan for my works. I need my head to shake or nod,
my hand to wave or make into a fist, my lungs to shout or whisper with.
I will not go gently onto a shelf, degutted, to become a non-book.
Exactly. If everyone had the power to eliminate anything they might find
objectionable in any book the libraries would be full of blank pages.
And people would grumble about that!
Someone would probably complain that, instead of a blank white page,
they clearly saw a depiction of two albinos making love in a snowstorm.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
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09 Oct 2006 07:08:01 PM |
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On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 23:29:39 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <rebii2lrne350smmu3l2jimullcj284idc@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 22:30:11 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <6tfmt1l521xf.hg2bpwshnqqa.dlg@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
johac wrote:
So when are they going to burn Bradbury's books? I think that there is
more than just a little touch of irony here.
I had forgotten I gave away my copy of 451 which had Bradbury's essay
on censorship in it, but I found it here:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga/page451/raybradbury.html
This should be read by everyone, especially by those who don't think
that trying to make a story less offensive is censorship.
[Excerpts]
The point is obvious. There is more than one way to burn a book. And
the world is full of people running about with lit matches. Every
minority, be it Baptist / Unitarian, Irish / Italian / Octogenarian /
Zen Buddhist, Zionist/Seventh-day Adventist, Women's Lib/Republican,
Mattachine/FourSquareGospel feel it has the will, the right, the duty to
douse the kerosene, light the fuse. Every dimwit editor who sees himself
as the source of all dreary blanc-mange plain porridge unleavened
literature, licks his guillotine and eyes the neck of any author who
dares to speak above a whisper or write above a nursery rhyme.
If teachers and grammar school editors find my jawbreaker sentences
shatter their mushmild teeth, let them eat stale cake dunked in weak tea
of their own ungodly manufacture.
In sum, do not insult me with the beheadings, finger-choppings or the
lung-deflations you plan for my works. I need my head to shake or nod,
my hand to wave or make into a fist, my lungs to shout or whisper with.
I will not go gently onto a shelf, degutted, to become a non-book.
Exactly. If everyone had the power to eliminate anything they might find
objectionable in any book the libraries would be full of blank pages.
And people would grumble about that!
Someone would probably complain that, instead of a blank white page,
they clearly saw a depiction of two albinos making love in a snowstorm.
Or the Virgin Mary taking one up the arse.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Fahrenheit 451 vs. the Bible |
10 Oct 2006 05:09:15 AM |
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In article <qf7li2tq549qsrhtl8anh4fibphng2seq5@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 23:29:39 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <rebii2lrne350smmu3l2jimullcj284idc@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 22:30:11 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <6tfmt1l521xf.hg2bpwshnqqa.dlg@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
johac wrote:
So when are they going to burn Bradbury's books? I think that there
is
more than just a little touch of irony here.
I had forgotten I gave away my copy of 451 which had Bradbury's essay
on censorship in it, but I found it here:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga/page451/raybradbury.html
This should be read by everyone, especially by those who don't think
that trying to make a story less offensive is censorship.
[Excerpts]
The point is obvious. There is more than one way to burn a book. And
the world is full of people running about with lit matches. Every
minority, be it Baptist / Unitarian, Irish / Italian / Octogenarian /
Zen Buddhist, Zionist/Seventh-day Adventist, Women's Lib/Republican,
Mattachine/FourSquareGospel feel it has the will, the right, the duty
to
douse the kerosene, light the fuse. Every dimwit editor who sees
himself
as the source of all dreary blanc-mange plain porridge unleavened
literature, licks his guillotine and eyes the neck of any author who
dares to speak above a whisper or write above a nursery rhyme.
If teachers and grammar school editors find my jawbreaker sentences
shatter their mushmild teeth, let them eat stale cake dunked in weak
tea
of their own ungodly manufacture.
In sum, do not insult me with the beheadings, finger-choppings or the
lung-deflations you plan for my works. I need my head to shake or nod,
my hand to wave or make into a fist, my lungs to shout or whisper with.
I will not go gently onto a shelf, degutted, to become a non-book.
Exactly. If everyone had the power to eliminate anything they might find
objectionable in any book the libraries would be full of blank pages.
And people would grumble about that!
Someone would probably complain that, instead of a blank white page,
they clearly saw a depiction of two albinos making love in a snowstorm.
Or the Virgin Mary taking one up the arse.
LOL! I'm sure they would.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Fahrenheit 451 vs. the Bible |
10 Oct 2006 11:03:13 PM |
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On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 22:09:15 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <qf7li2tq549qsrhtl8anh4fibphng2seq5@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 23:29:39 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <rebii2lrne350smmu3l2jimullcj284idc@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 22:30:11 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <6tfmt1l521xf.hg2bpwshnqqa.dlg@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
johac wrote:
So when are they going to burn Bradbury's books? I think that there
is
more than just a little touch of irony here.
I had forgotten I gave away my copy of 451 which had Bradbury's essay
on censorship in it, but I found it here:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga/page451/raybradbury.html
This should be read by everyone, especially by those who don't think
that trying to make a story less offensive is censorship.
[Excerpts]
The point is obvious. There is more than one way to burn a book. And
the world is full of people running about with lit matches. Every
minority, be it Baptist / Unitarian, Irish / Italian / Octogenarian /
Zen Buddhist, Zionist/Seventh-day Adventist, Women's Lib/Republican,
Mattachine/FourSquareGospel feel it has the will, the right, the duty
to
douse the kerosene, light the fuse. Every dimwit editor who sees
himself
as the source of all dreary blanc-mange plain porridge unleavened
literature, licks his guillotine and eyes the neck of any author who
dares to speak above a whisper or write above a nursery rhyme.
If teachers and grammar school editors find my jawbreaker sentences
shatter their mushmild teeth, let them eat stale cake dunked in weak
tea
of their own ungodly manufacture.
In sum, do not insult me with the beheadings, finger-choppings or the
lung-deflations you plan for my works. I need my head to shake or nod,
my hand to wave or make into a fist, my lungs to shout or whisper with.
I will not go gently onto a shelf, degutted, to become a non-book.
Exactly. If everyone had the power to eliminate anything they might find
objectionable in any book the libraries would be full of blank pages.
And people would grumble about that!
Someone would probably complain that, instead of a blank white page,
they clearly saw a depiction of two albinos making love in a snowstorm.
Or the Virgin Mary taking one up the arse.
LOL! I'm sure they would.
But her so taking one was part of the 'Divine Plan.' ;)
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Fahrenheit 451 vs. the Bible |
11 Oct 2006 04:40:52 AM |
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In article <7k9oi25i32g403hldeunffua874b6alk2f@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 22:09:15 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <qf7li2tq549qsrhtl8anh4fibphng2seq5@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 23:29:39 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <rebii2lrne350smmu3l2jimullcj284idc@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 22:30:11 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <6tfmt1l521xf.hg2bpwshnqqa.dlg@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
johac wrote:
So when are they going to burn Bradbury's books? I think that
there
is
more than just a little touch of irony here.
I had forgotten I gave away my copy of 451 which had Bradbury's
essay
on censorship in it, but I found it here:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga/page451/raybradbury.html
This should be read by everyone, especially by those who don't think
that trying to make a story less offensive is censorship.
[Excerpts]
The point is obvious. There is more than one way to burn a book.
And
the world is full of people running about with lit matches. Every
minority, be it Baptist / Unitarian, Irish / Italian / Octogenarian
/
Zen Buddhist, Zionist/Seventh-day Adventist, Women's Lib/Republican,
Mattachine/FourSquareGospel feel it has the will, the right, the
duty
to
douse the kerosene, light the fuse. Every dimwit editor who sees
himself
as the source of all dreary blanc-mange plain porridge unleavened
literature, licks his guillotine and eyes the neck of any author who
dares to speak above a whisper or write above a nursery rhyme.
If teachers and grammar school editors find my jawbreaker sentences
shatter their mushmild teeth, let them eat stale cake dunked in weak
tea
of their own ungodly manufacture.
In sum, do not insult me with the beheadings, finger-choppings or
the
lung-deflations you plan for my works. I need my head to shake or
nod,
my hand to wave or make into a fist, my lungs to shout or whisper
with.
I will not go gently onto a shelf, degutted, to become a non-book.
Exactly. If everyone had the power to eliminate anything they might
find
objectionable in any book the libraries would be full of blank pages.
And people would grumble about that!
Someone would probably complain that, instead of a blank white page,
they clearly saw a depiction of two albinos making love in a snowstorm.
Or the Virgin Mary taking one up the arse.
LOL! I'm sure they would.
But her so taking one was part of the 'Divine Plan.' ;)
Godswill(R)
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Fahrenheit 451 vs. the Bible |
11 Oct 2006 11:26:38 PM |
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On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:40:52 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <7k9oi25i32g403hldeunffua874b6alk2f@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 22:09:15 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <qf7li2tq549qsrhtl8anh4fibphng2seq5@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 23:29:39 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <rebii2lrne350smmu3l2jimullcj284idc@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 22:30:11 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <6tfmt1l521xf.hg2bpwshnqqa.dlg@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
johac wrote:
So when are they going to burn Bradbury's books? I think that
there
is
more than just a little touch of irony here.
I had forgotten I gave away my copy of 451 which had Bradbury's
essay
on censorship in it, but I found it here:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga/page451/raybradbury.html
This should be read by everyone, especially by those who don't think
that trying to make a story less offensive is censorship.
[Excerpts]
The point is obvious. There is more than one way to burn a book.
And
the world is full of people running about with lit matches. Every
minority, be it Baptist / Unitarian, Irish / Italian / Octogenarian
/
Zen Buddhist, Zionist/Seventh-day Adventist, Women's Lib/Republican,
Mattachine/FourSquareGospel feel it has the will, the right, the
duty
to
douse the kerosene, light the fuse. Every dimwit editor who sees
himself
as the source of all dreary blanc-mange plain porridge unleavened
literature, licks his guillotine and eyes the neck of any author who
dares to speak above a whisper or write above a nursery rhyme.
If teachers and grammar school editors find my jawbreaker sentences
shatter their mushmild teeth, let them eat stale cake dunked in weak
tea
of their own ungodly manufacture.
In sum, do not insult me with the beheadings, finger-choppings or
the
lung-deflations you plan for my works. I need my head to shake or
nod,
my hand to wave or make into a fist, my lungs to shout or whisper
with.
I will not go gently onto a shelf, degutted, to become a non-book.
Exactly. If everyone had the power to eliminate anything they might
find
objectionable in any book the libraries would be full of blank pages.
And people would grumble about that!
Someone would probably complain that, instead of a blank white page,
they clearly saw a depiction of two albinos making love in a snowstorm.
Or the Virgin Mary taking one up the arse.
LOL! I'm sure they would.
But her so taking one was part of the 'Divine Plan.' ;)
Godswill(R)
And for a Greater Good®
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Fahrenheit 451 vs. the Bible |
12 Oct 2006 04:43:24 AM |
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In article <tcvqi2dl04tmub9390ntnu51su1vuklunp@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:40:52 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <7k9oi25i32g403hldeunffua874b6alk2f@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Mon, 09 Oct 2006 22:09:15 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <qf7li2tq549qsrhtl8anh4fibphng2seq5@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sun, 08 Oct 2006 23:29:39 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <rebii2lrne350smmu3l2jimullcj284idc@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 04 Oct 2006 22:30:11 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <6tfmt1l521xf.hg2bpwshnqqa.dlg@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
johac wrote:
So when are they going to burn Bradbury's books? I think that
there
is
more than just a little touch of irony here.
I had forgotten I gave away my copy of 451 which had Bradbury's
essay
on censorship in it, but I found it here:
http://www.angelfire.com/ga/page451/raybradbury.html
This should be read by everyone, especially by those who don't
think
that trying to make a story less offensive is censorship.
[Excerpts]
The point is obvious. There is more than one way to burn a book.
And
the world is full of people running about with lit matches. Every
minority, be it Baptist / Unitarian, Irish / Italian /
Octogenarian
/
Zen Buddhist, Zionist/Seventh-day Adventist, Women's
Lib/Republican,
Mattachine/FourSquareGospel feel it has the will, the right, the
duty
to
douse the kerosene, light the fuse. Every dimwit editor who sees
himself
as the source of all dreary blanc-mange plain porridge unleavened
literature, licks his guillotine and eyes the neck of any author
who
dares to speak above a whisper or write above a nursery rhyme.
If teachers and grammar school editors find my jawbreaker
sentences
shatter their mushmild teeth, let them eat stale cake dunked in
weak
tea
of their own ungodly manufacture.
In sum, do not insult me with the beheadings, finger-choppings or
the
lung-deflations you plan for my works. I need my head to shake or
nod,
my hand to wave or make into a fist, my lungs to shout or whisper
with.
I will not go gently onto a shelf, degutted, to become a
non-book.
Exactly. If everyone had the power to eliminate anything they might
find
objectionable in any book the libraries would be full of blank
pages.
And people would grumble about that!
Someone would probably complain that, instead of a blank white page,
they clearly saw a depiction of two albinos making love in a
snowstorm.
Or the Virgin Mary taking one up the arse.
LOL! I'm sure they would.
But her so taking one was part of the 'Divine Plan.' ;)
Godswill(R)
And for a Greater Good®
Gawd acts in mysterious ways.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Fahrenheit 451 vs. the Bible |
13 Oct 2006 03:37:32 AM |
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:43:24 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <tcvqi2dl04tmub9390ntnu51su1vuklunp@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:40:52 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Exactly. If everyone had the power to eliminate anything they might
find
objectionable in any book the libraries would be full of blank
pages.
And people would grumble about that!
Someone would probably complain that, instead of a blank white page,
they clearly saw a depiction of two albinos making love in a
snowstorm.
Or the Virgin Mary taking one up the arse.
LOL! I'm sure they would.
But her so taking one was part of the 'Divine Plan.' ;)
Godswill(R)
And for a Greater Good®
Gawd acts in mysterious ways.
So mysterious its as if 'God' didn't exist.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Fahrenheit 451 vs. the Bible |
13 Oct 2006 04:38:46 AM |
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In article <ge2ui29e21c4sfq03v8rb0jtipp88eojup@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:43:24 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <tcvqi2dl04tmub9390ntnu51su1vuklunp@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:40:52 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Exactly. If everyone had the power to eliminate anything they
might
find
objectionable in any book the libraries would be full of blank
pages.
And people would grumble about that!
Someone would probably complain that, instead of a blank white
page,
they clearly saw a depiction of two albinos making love in a
snowstorm.
Or the Virgin Mary taking one up the arse.
LOL! I'm sure they would.
But her so taking one was part of the 'Divine Plan.' ;)
Godswill(R)
And for a Greater Good®
Gawd acts in mysterious ways.
So mysterious its as if 'God' didn't exist.
It's funny about that. God runs the whole universe in such a way that
you would swear that it ran all by itself.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Fahrenheit 451 vs. the Bible |
14 Oct 2006 04:49:30 PM |
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On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:38:46 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <ge2ui29e21c4sfq03v8rb0jtipp88eojup@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:43:24 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <tcvqi2dl04tmub9390ntnu51su1vuklunp@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:40:52 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Exactly. If everyone had the power to eliminate anything they
might
find
objectionable in any book the libraries would be full of blank
pages.
And people would grumble about that!
Someone would probably complain that, instead of a blank white
page,
they clearly saw a depiction of two albinos making love in a
snowstorm.
Or the Virgin Mary taking one up the arse.
LOL! I'm sure they would.
But her so taking one was part of the 'Divine Plan.' ;)
Godswill(R)
And for a Greater Good®
Gawd acts in mysterious ways.
So mysterious its as if 'God' didn't exist.
It's funny about that. God runs the whole universe in such a way that
you would swear that it ran all by itself.
By design!
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Fahrenheit 451 vs. the Bible |
15 Oct 2006 04:53:04 AM |
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In article <g852j2hvruk9013knhmhrn5dkg4savl694@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:38:46 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <ge2ui29e21c4sfq03v8rb0jtipp88eojup@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:43:24 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <tcvqi2dl04tmub9390ntnu51su1vuklunp@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:40:52 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Exactly. If everyone had the power to eliminate anything they
might
find
objectionable in any book the libraries would be full of
blank
pages.
And people would grumble about that!
Someone would probably complain that, instead of a blank white
page,
they clearly saw a depiction of two albinos making love in a
snowstorm.
Or the Virgin Mary taking one up the arse.
LOL! I'm sure they would.
But her so taking one was part of the 'Divine Plan.' ;)
Godswill(R)
And for a Greater Good®
Gawd acts in mysterious ways.
So mysterious its as if 'God' didn't exist.
It's funny about that. God runs the whole universe in such a way that
you would swear that it ran all by itself.
By design!
But not so intelligent. For example, the human body.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Fahrenheit 451 vs. the Bible |
15 Oct 2006 04:41:04 PM |
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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:53:04 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <g852j2hvruk9013knhmhrn5dkg4savl694@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:38:46 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <ge2ui29e21c4sfq03v8rb0jtipp88eojup@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:43:24 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <tcvqi2dl04tmub9390ntnu51su1vuklunp@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:40:52 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
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Exactly. If everyone had the power to eliminate anything they
might
find
objectionable in any book the libraries would be full of
blank
pages.
And people would grumble about that!
Someone would probably complain that, instead of a blank white
page,
they clearly saw a depiction of two albinos making love in a
snowstorm.
Or the Virgin Mary taking one up the arse.
LOL! I'm sure they would.
But her so taking one was part of the 'Divine Plan.' ;)
Godswill(R)
And for a Greater Good®
Gawd acts in mysterious ways.
So mysterious its as if 'God' didn't exist.
It's funny about that. God runs the whole universe in such a way that
you would swear that it ran all by itself.
By design!
But not so intelligent. For example, the human body.
I didn't say anything about intelligence.
--
Fundies and trolls are cordially invited to
shove a wooden cross up their arses and rotate
at a high rate of speed. I trust you'll
be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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| Title: Re: Fahrenheit 451 vs. the Bible |
16 Oct 2006 05:33:53 AM |
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In article <c4p4j2tf0rmlrimmfaunvla366aaiqmah7@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 21:53:04 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <g852j2hvruk9013knhmhrn5dkg4savl694@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2006 21:38:46 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <ge2ui29e21c4sfq03v8rb0jtipp88eojup@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:43:24 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
In article <tcvqi2dl04tmub9390ntnu51su1vuklunp@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Oct 2006 21:40:52 -0700, johac <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com>
wrote in alt.atheism
[]
Exactly. If everyone had the power to eliminate anything
they
might
find
objectionable in any book the libraries would be full of
blank
pages.
And people would grumble about that!
Someone would probably complain that, instead of a blank
white
page,
they clearly saw a depiction of two albinos making love in a
snowstorm.
Or the Virgin Mary taking one up the arse.
LOL! I'm sure they would.
But her so taking one was part of the 'Divine Plan.' ;)
Godswill(R)
And for a Greater Good®
Gawd acts in mysterious ways.
So mysterious its as if 'God' didn't exist.
It's funny about that. God runs the whole universe in such a way that
you would swear that it ran all by itself.
By design!
But not so intelligent. For example, the human body.
I didn't say anything about intelligence.
True. I sit corrected.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "cactus" |
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| Title: Re: Fahrenheit 451 vs. the Bible |
04 Oct 2006 04:00:34 PM |
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johac wrote:
In article <10mbzoxqmg8t3$.10jry0oi2b5qd.dlg@40tude.net>,
"L. Raymond" <badaddress@mylinuxisp.com> wrote:
In a Conroe, just north of Houston, a parent has filed a complaint
against Fahrenheit 451 to have it removed from his 15 year old
daughter's school. The daughter was just on the news and was asked why
she was upset by the book. "They burned the Bible." The reporter
pointed out that a lot of other books were burned, too. The student
said, "Yeah, but they took God's name in vain."
The news showed some excerpts from the father's official complaint,
and it listed "cigarettes" and "talking about our firemen", presumably
disrespectfully. He dutifully gave page numbers for these and for all
the vile cussing and blasphemy that went on.
Now the good news. The other students at this school have started a
petition drive in support of the book and have plans for a peaceful
protest on Friday, when they'll wear shirts to express their opinions.
I hope this is yet another little step towards making it clear to
society at large that the fundies really are nuts and absolutely can't
be humored in all their whims.
So when are they going to burn Bradbury's books? I think that there is
more than just a little touch of irony here.
I recall how the John Birch Society denounced the Beatles for their song
"Back in the USSR" because they said it promoted Communism.
No different really. People conflate literature and reality all the time.
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