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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "johac"
Date: 26 Jan 2005 07:59:57 AM
Object: Faith Based Fraud
Following the money.
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The Faith-Based Fraud
Mon Jan 24,10:55 AM ET
Ari Berman
After its highly touted unveiling, President Bush (news - web sites)'s
faith-based initiative has proceeded largely under the radar. But a lack
of attention hasn't shielded the program's constitutional
questionability, or its brutal effectiveness.
In 2003--according to White House data reported by the Los Angeles
Times--Bush doled out $1 billion to hundreds of faith-based groups
through a little-noted executive order. More importantly, the Bush
Administration used the grants to sway influential African-Americans in
key battleground states and reward longtime political supporters at
taxpayer expense.
For example, after the Rev. Herb Lusk II delivered the invocation at the
2000 Republican convention, his Philadelphia church received $1 million
in federal funds. Bishop Harold Ray, who offered the invocation at a
rally for ***** Cheney (news - web sites) in Palm Beach, Florida, got
$1.7 million for his South Florida ministry. In 2002 Bush personally
visited Milwaukee's Bishop Sedgwick Daniels--who voted for Clinton and
Gore--and later awarded him a $1.5 million grant. This fall, Daniels's
face appeared on Republican Party fliers in Wisconsin, endorsing Bush as
a man who "shares our views."
The faith-based initiatives likely played a crucial role in increasing
Bush's take of the black vote, especially in targeted swing states.
Funnily enough, the campaign held grant-writing workshops in St. Louis
in September (when Missouri was still in play) and Miami in October.
Moreover, it's unclear exactly how much money is going where. The recent
White House data contains a caveat that it represents all grants. Even
the Rev. Sun Myung Moon's cultish Unification Church has received
funding. And House Republicans allegedly blocked Democrat Chet Edwards
from investigating the money flow.
When the initiative's first director, John Dilulio, resigned after six
months on the job, he called White House policy-makers "Mayberry
Machiavellis" who "consistently talked and acted as if the height of
political sophistication consisted in reducing every issue to its
simplest, black-and-white terms for public consumption, then steering
legislative initiatives or policy proposals as far right as possible."
Bush plans to highlight the initiative in his State of the Union address
and reintroduce the expanded legislation before the new Republican
Congress. The number-one "Mayberry Machiavelli" keeps confusing holy
work with partisan gain.
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ation/20050124/cm_thenation/132145
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television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
.

User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Faith Based Fraud 27 Jan 2005 03:38:49 AM
On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:59:57 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> said in
alt.atheism:

Bush plans to highlight the initiative in his State of the Union address
and reintroduce the expanded legislation before the new Republican
Congress. The number-one "Mayberry Machiavelli" keeps confusing holy
work with partisan gain.

Since the Republican party is the party of god, what's the difference?
--
"Given that you exist and that you are aware of your situation and
surroundings, you will find yourself in a place which has conditions
exactly suitable to your being there. If the environment was
hostile or incompatible in some important way then you would not be
there in the first place. Therefore the suitability and seeming
perfection of your universe cannot be taken as evidence of anything
more than your existence in it."
- Edward Warren, "The naturalistic fallacy"
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rukbat at verizon dot net
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Faith Based Fraud 27 Jan 2005 06:23:47 AM
In article <3hogv09471k1d7otref1e0hqsandorlr4v@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:59:57 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> said in
alt.atheism:

Bush plans to highlight the initiative in his State of the Union address
and reintroduce the expanded legislation before the new Republican
Congress. The number-one "Mayberry Machiavelli" keeps confusing holy
work with partisan gain.


Since the Republican party is the party of god, what's the difference?

Hizbollah also means 'party of god' so as you say, what's the
difference? Beats me.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
.
User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Faith Based Fraud 27 Jan 2005 02:09:53 PM
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-1F2387.22234726012005@news.giganews.com:

In article <3hogv09471k1d7otref1e0hqsandorlr4v@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jan 2005 23:59:57 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> said in
alt.atheism:

Bush plans to highlight the initiative in his State of the Union
address and reintroduce the expanded legislation before the new
Republican Congress. The number-one "Mayberry Machiavelli" keeps
confusing holy work with partisan gain.


Since the Republican party is the party of god, what's the
difference?


Hizbollah also means 'party of god' so as you say, what's the
difference? Beats me.

If you can't tell the difference between Republicans and Hezbollah, I
suggest you move to Israel.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Support bacteria! That's all the culture many people will ever have.
.



User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Faith Based Fraud 26 Jan 2005 01:34:22 PM
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-4FDDA7.23595725012005@news.giganews.com:

Following the money.


---
The Faith-Based Fraud

Mon Jan 24,10:55 AM ET

Ari Berman

After its highly touted unveiling, President Bush (news - web sites)'s
faith-based initiative has proceeded largely under the radar. But a
lack of attention hasn't shielded the program's constitutional
questionability, or its brutal effectiveness.

In 2003--according to White House data reported by the Los Angeles
Times--Bush doled out $1 billion to hundreds of faith-based groups
through a little-noted executive order. More importantly, the Bush
Administration used the grants to sway influential African-Americans
in key battleground states and reward longtime political supporters at
taxpayer expense.

Gasp! I'm *shocked*. Shocked, I say!

For example, after the Rev. Herb Lusk II delivered the invocation at
the 2000 Republican convention, his Philadelphia church received $1
million in federal funds. Bishop Harold Ray, who offered the
invocation at a rally for ***** Cheney (news - web sites) in Palm
Beach, Florida, got $1.7 million for his South Florida ministry. In
2002 Bush personally visited Milwaukee's Bishop Sedgwick Daniels--who
voted for Clinton and Gore--and later awarded him a $1.5 million
grant. This fall, Daniels's face appeared on Republican Party fliers
in Wisconsin, endorsing Bush as a man who "shares our views."

The faith-based initiatives likely played a crucial role in increasing
Bush's take of the black vote, especially in targeted swing states.
Funnily enough, the campaign held grant-writing workshops in St. Louis
in September (when Missouri was still in play) and Miami in October.

No! How awful! A politician doling out the dough for votes! Run him out
of town!

Moreover, it's unclear exactly how much money is going where. The
recent White House data contains a caveat that it represents all
grants. Even the Rev. Sun Myung Moon's cultish Unification Church has
received funding. And House Republicans allegedly blocked Democrat
Chet Edwards from investigating the money flow.

When the initiative's first director, John Dilulio, resigned after six
months on the job, he called White House policy-makers "Mayberry
Machiavellis" who "consistently talked and acted as if the height of
political sophistication consisted in reducing every issue to its
simplest, black-and-white terms for public consumption, then steering
legislative initiatives or policy proposals as far right as possible."

Liberal projection at its finest.

Bush plans to highlight the initiative in his State of the Union
address and reintroduce the expanded legislation before the new
Republican Congress. The number-one "Mayberry Machiavelli" keeps
confusing holy work with partisan gain.

How awful, making political points with taxpayers money. Tsk tsk tsk.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Support bacteria! That's all the culture many people will ever have.
.
User: "johac"

Title: Re: Faith Based Fraud 27 Jan 2005 06:29:29 AM
In article <Xns95EA573AA8D8Cfstone69@205.188.138.161>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-4FDDA7.23595725012005@news.giganews.com:

Following the money.


---
The Faith-Based Fraud

Mon Jan 24,10:55 AM ET

Ari Berman

After its highly touted unveiling, President Bush (news - web sites)'s
faith-based initiative has proceeded largely under the radar. But a
lack of attention hasn't shielded the program's constitutional
questionability, or its brutal effectiveness.

In 2003--according to White House data reported by the Los Angeles
Times--Bush doled out $1 billion to hundreds of faith-based groups
through a little-noted executive order. More importantly, the Bush
Administration used the grants to sway influential African-Americans
in key battleground states and reward longtime political supporters at
taxpayer expense.


Gasp! I'm *shocked*. Shocked, I say!

So you and Bush want to tear down the wall of separation between church
and state, right?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Faith Based Fraud 27 Jan 2005 07:52:35 PM
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 22:29:29 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> said in
alt.atheism:

In article <Xns95EA573AA8D8Cfstone69@205.188.138.161>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

Gasp! I'm *shocked*. Shocked, I say!

So you and Bush want to tear down the wall of separation between church
and state, right?

Fred doesn't see any problem with that if Shrub does it. Now if that
intern-raping Clinton did it ...
--
"religion did for *****, what Stonehenge did for rocks"
- The World Famous Tink
(random sig, produced by SigChanger)
rukbat at verizon dot net
.

User: "Fred Stone"

Title: Re: Faith Based Fraud 27 Jan 2005 02:08:42 PM
johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-8442C9.22292926012005@news.giganews.com:

In article <Xns95EA573AA8D8Cfstone69@205.188.138.161>,
Fred Stone <fstone69@earthling.com> wrote:

johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote in
news:jhachm-4FDDA7.23595725012005@news.giganews.com:

Following the money.


---
The Faith-Based Fraud

Mon Jan 24,10:55 AM ET

Ari Berman

After its highly touted unveiling, President Bush (news - web
sites)'s faith-based initiative has proceeded largely under the
radar. But a lack of attention hasn't shielded the program's
constitutional questionability, or its brutal effectiveness.

In 2003--according to White House data reported by the Los Angeles
Times--Bush doled out $1 billion to hundreds of faith-based groups
through a little-noted executive order. More importantly, the Bush
Administration used the grants to sway influential
African-Americans in key battleground states and reward longtime
political supporters at taxpayer expense.


Gasp! I'm *shocked*. Shocked, I say!


So you and Bush want to tear down the wall of separation between
church and state, right?

No. Not right.
--
Fred Stone
aa# 1369
Support bacteria! That's all the culture many people will ever have.
.




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