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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "maff"
Date: 26 Jul 2006 02:32:55 AM
Object: Faith, Reason, God and Other Imponderables
Faith, Reason, God and Other Imponderables
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/25/science/25books.html?ref=science&pagewanted=all
By CORNELIA DEAN
There is a stormy argument over whether faith in God can coexist with
faith in the scientific method.
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User: "Greywolf"

Title: Re: Faith, Reason, God and Other Imponderables 26 Jul 2006 09:17:20 AM
"maff" <maff91@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Faith, Reason, God and Other Imponderables
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07/25/science/25books.html?ref=science&pagewanted=all

By CORNELIA DEAN
There is a stormy argument over whether faith in God can coexist with
faith in the scientific method.

It can't. Religion is firmly grounded in imagination. No matter how finely
'dressed' religion gets, it still remains devoid of truth. (Try proving just
*one* fact religion and religion alone has presented mankind.) It only
serves to make people feel 'good'. And that would not be such a bad thing if
it weren't for the fact that far too often that 'good' to turns into hatred,
intolerance and an all too powerful incentive for people to kill people who
don't share a particular 'faith'. Get rid of it. Science is leading us to
the truth, and we must follow that 'truth' *wherever* it takes us. Religion,
on the other hand is showing us that it is taking us straight into a abyss
from which mankind will not return. Coexist with the scientific method? How?
By simply 'believing' something is true instead of 'proving' it? The theists
have had thousands of years to prove the existence of 'God'. How many more
will it take them to do so? Five thousand more? By then, the Jesus and the
Allah people will have effectively destroyed our planet in some kind of
'Holy War'. And those few who would survive the initial catastrophe (nukes)
would form bands and continue the 'struggle' using clubs if they had to.
How stupid we humans are when you think about it.
Greywolf
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User: "Kobra"

Title: Re: Faith, Reason, God and Other Imponderables 02 Aug 2006 12:32:19 AM

It can't. Religion is firmly grounded in imagination. No matter how finely
'dressed' religion gets, it still remains devoid of truth. (Try proving
just *one* fact religion and religion alone has presented mankind.) It
only serves to make people feel 'good'. And that would not be such a bad
thing if it weren't for the fact that far too often that 'good' to turns
into hatred, intolerance and an all too powerful incentive for people to
kill people who don't share a particular 'faith'. Get rid of it. Science
is leading us to the truth, and we must follow that 'truth' *wherever* it
takes us. Religion, on the other hand is showing us that it is taking us
straight into a abyss from which mankind will not return. Coexist with the
scientific method? How? By simply 'believing' something is true instead of
'proving' it? The theists have had thousands of years to prove the
existence of 'God'. How many more will it take them to do so? Five
thousand more? By then, the Jesus and the Allah people will have
effectively destroyed our planet in some kind of 'Holy War'. And those few
who would survive the initial catastrophe (nukes) would form bands and
continue the 'struggle' using clubs if they had to.

How stupid we humans are when you think about it.

Greywolf

Don't blame religion. It's just a tool for assholes to use to support their
own selfish agendas, much like politics, racism, sexism, etc. Human history
has been defined mostly by conflict. When you have a group of people of the
same religion, they'll fight each other over racial differences. If the
same same race too, then over imaginary borders drawn on maps or natural
resources. If two white, anglo-saxon Christian males that are neighbors,
are both republicans (or democrats), like the same sports teams, both have
blonde hair and blue eyes, they'll find a way to separate themselves and
create a potential point of conflict. The need to be "right" (which means
making someone else "wrong") outweighs all other things. That's what human
beings do.
Do honestly think an atheistic society would guarantee a peaceful utopia?
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