maff91@yahoo.com (maff) wrote in message news:<18510aff.0405121138.6fae2b1b@posting.google.com>...

That you've to ask those individuals and factions.

Who burned god statues during CR so others can ask?

Which God statues? Buddha isn't a God.

So? Who's a "god" in Chinese buddhism, then?

If crimes were committed then
you've to collect the evidence against those inviduals and
organizations.

Unfortunately your beloved CCP don't think vandal god statues a crime during CR.

So atheism is just an optional add-on to Communism.

How OPTIONAL ADD-ON is it?

Zero. It's compulsory for Christian fascists.

The discussion here is on communism regarding how optional add-on
atheism is to communist. Don't try to switch to christians. LT Lee's
plot don't work any more. :P

Atheism is just lack of belief in god(s). It says nothing particularly
about religion. Communism wants to control political and economic life
a country just like Christianity. Christianity is certainly relevant
to the discussions as several trillions of dollars in compensation to
the victims are still outstanding.

But christianity don't control a government. CCP do.

"The evils of Communism are the same as those that existed in
Christianity during the Ages Of Faith. The OGPU differs only
quantitatively from the Inquisition. Its cruelties are of the same
sort, and the damage that it does to the intellectual and moral life
of Russians is of the same sort as that which was done by the
Inquisitors wherever they prevailed. The Communists falsify history,
and the church did the same until the Renaissance. If the Church is
not now as bad as the Soviet government, that is due to the influence
of those who attacked the church; from the Council of Trent until the
present day, whatever improvements it has effected have been due to
its enemies."

[Bertrand Russell, "Can Religion Cure Our Troubles?", 1954; published
in a Swedish newspaper during the height of Sen. Joe McCarthy's
anti-communist hysteria]

"The Communist, like the Christian, believes that his doctrine is
essential to salvation, and it is this belief which makes salvation
possible for him. It is the similarities between Christianity and
Communism that make them incompatible with each other."

[Bertrand Russell, "Can Religion Cure Our Troubles?", 1954; published
in a Swedish newspaper during the height of Sen. Joe McCarthy's
anti-communist hysteria]

"The most dangerous features of Communism are reminiscent of the
medieval Church. They consist of fanatical acceptance of doctrines
embodied in a sacred book, unwillingness to examine these doctrines
critically, and savage persecution of those who reject them."

[Bertrand Russell, "Can Religion Cure Our Troubles?", 1954; published
in a Swedish newspaper during the height of Sen. Joe McCarthy's
anti-communist hysteria]

Can you find something more recent than 50 years?

That you've to ask them.

Who of CCP should others ask?

You should approach International Criminal Court for that. You know
that KMT is also going face criminal and civil charges as well?

How? Plz cite a warrant on KMT from ICC. And did ICC say smtg about CCP?

It's not that KMT is smarter. Taiwan was funded by US and given access
to the US market to destabilize the PRC without much success.

PRC was funded by USSR and given access to destablize the region
without much success either.

So why not let the International Criminal Court decide that? KMT,
Vatican,US, USSR and others are also going to face criminal and civil
charges.

You forgot CCP above. Is that deliberate?

"The wicked leader is he who the people
despise. The good leader is he who the people
revere. The great leader is he who the people
say, 'we did it ourselves'."

"If you want to be a great leader,
you must learn to follow the Tao.
Stop trying to control.
Let go of fixed plans and concepts,
and the world will govern itself.

"The more prohibitions you have,
the less virtuous people will be.
The more weapons you have,
the less secure people will be.
The more subsidies you have,
the less self-reliant people will be.

"Therefore the Master says:
I let go of the law,
and people become honest.
I let go of economics,
and people become prosperous.
I let go of religion,
and people become serene.
I let go of all desire for the common good,
and the good becomes common as grass."

38

High Virtue is non-virtuous;
Therefore it has Virtue.
Low Virtue never frees itself from virtuousness;
Therefore it has no Virtue.

High Virtue makes no fuss and has no private ends to serve:
Low Virtue not only fusses but has private ends to serve.

High humanity fusses but has no private ends to serve:
High morality not only fusses but has private ends to serve.
High ceremony fusses but finds no response;
Then it tries to enforce itself with rolled-up sleeves.

Failing Tao, man resorts to Virtue.
Failing Virtue, man resorts to humanity.
Failing humanity, man resorts to morality.
Failing morality, man resorts to ceremony.
Now, ceremony is the merest husk of faith and loyalty;
It is the beginning of all confusion and disorder.

As to foreknowledge, it is only the flower of Tao,
And the beginning of folly.

Therefore, the full-grown man sets his heart upon the substance rather
than the husk;
Upon the fruit rather than the flower.
Truly, he prefers what is within to what is without.

Lao T'zu
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