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26 Aug 2007 02:12:36 AM |
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Fallen pastor seeks financial support |
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
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Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Sat Aug 25, 4:12 AM ET
The Rev. Ted Haggard, who left the megachurch he founded after admitting
to "sexual immorality," has asked supporters for financial assistance
while he and his wife pursue their studies.
The former New Life Church pastor plans to seek a master's degree in
counseling at the University of Phoenix while his wife studies
psychology, he said in an e-mail sent this week to KRDO-TV in Colorado
Springs.
The couple and two of their sons planned to move Oct. 1 to the Phoenix
Dream Center, a faith-based halfway house in Phoenix, where Haggard and
his wife would provide counseling, the e-mail said.
"It looks as though it will take two years for us to have adequate
earning power again, so we are looking for people who will help us
monthly for two years," the e-mail said. "During that time we will
continue as full-time students, and then, when I graduate, we won't need
outside support any longer."
Haggard left the 10,000-member New Life Church late last year and
resigned as head of the National Association of Evangelicals after a
former male escort accused Haggard of paying him for sex.
Mike Ware, an overseer for New Life Church, told The Gazette of Colorado
Springs on Friday that it was premature of Haggard to release the
statement without first consulting the overseers.
A New Life spokesman did not immediately return a phone message left
late Friday by The Associated Press.
Haggard received a salary of $115,000 for the 10 months he worked in
2006 and an $85,000 anniversary bonus before the scandal broke, The
Gazette reported. Haggard's severance package included a year's salary
of $138,000, and he collects royalties on his book titles, the newspaper
reported.
El Paso County records show Haggard's home, which has been up for sale,
has a market value of $715,051.
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John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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26 Aug 2007 09:36:55 AM |
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In article <jhachmann-B9767B.00123626082007@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net says...
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
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Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Hummm, sounds like Haggard is looking for some sugar daddies. I suspect
that Haggard would also be willing to perform other "services" for money.
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "johac" |
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26 Aug 2007 11:36:51 PM |
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In article <MPG.213b3df654ace34498a04d@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-B9767B.00123626082007@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net says...
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
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Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Hummm, sounds like Haggard is looking for some sugar daddies. I suspect
that Haggard would also be willing to perform other "services" for money.
Yep. And on the side he'll probably start dealing crack.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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27 Aug 2007 02:13:26 AM |
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On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:36:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <MPG.213b3df654ace34498a04d@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-B9767B.00123626082007@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net says...
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
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Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Hummm, sounds like Haggard is looking for some sugar daddies. I suspect
that Haggard would also be willing to perform other "services" for money.
Yep. And on the side he'll probably start dealing crack.
"start"??
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| User: "johac" |
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27 Aug 2007 05:46:27 PM |
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In article <8cu4d3hag7v0e3rdmmuh747jibkiho3pj9@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:36:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <MPG.213b3df654ace34498a04d@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-B9767B.00123626082007@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net says...
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
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Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Hummm, sounds like Haggard is looking for some sugar daddies. I suspect
that Haggard would also be willing to perform other "services" for money.
Yep. And on the side he'll probably start dealing crack.
"start"??
Perhaps. If religion is the "opiate of the people", then dealing crack
would be just a continuation of his former trade.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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27 Aug 2007 09:20:20 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:46:27 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <8cu4d3hag7v0e3rdmmuh747jibkiho3pj9@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:36:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <MPG.213b3df654ace34498a04d@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-B9767B.00123626082007@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net says...
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
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Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Hummm, sounds like Haggard is looking for some sugar daddies. I suspect
that Haggard would also be willing to perform other "services" for money.
Yep. And on the side he'll probably start dealing crack.
"start"??
Oh, that sort of 'crack'!
I thought you meant the crack that builders show when bending over.
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| User: "johac" |
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27 Aug 2007 11:52:31 PM |
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In article <1i17d3ppqs929ovvej1mihidlb2qbqqbbe@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:46:27 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <8cu4d3hag7v0e3rdmmuh747jibkiho3pj9@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:36:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <MPG.213b3df654ace34498a04d@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-B9767B.00123626082007@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net says...
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
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Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Hummm, sounds like Haggard is looking for some sugar daddies. I
suspect
that Haggard would also be willing to perform other "services" for
money.
Yep. And on the side he'll probably start dealing crack.
"start"??
Oh, that sort of 'crack'!
I thought you meant the crack that builders show when bending over.
He'll likely be selling that too.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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28 Aug 2007 02:06:03 AM |
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:52:31 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <1i17d3ppqs929ovvej1mihidlb2qbqqbbe@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:46:27 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <8cu4d3hag7v0e3rdmmuh747jibkiho3pj9@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:36:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <MPG.213b3df654ace34498a04d@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-B9767B.00123626082007@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net says...
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
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Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Hummm, sounds like Haggard is looking for some sugar daddies. I
suspect
that Haggard would also be willing to perform other "services" for
money.
Yep. And on the side he'll probably start dealing crack.
"start"??
Oh, that sort of 'crack'!
I thought you meant the crack that builders show when bending over.
He'll likely be selling that too.
How much would you pay for 6" of crack?
But don't phone now!
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| User: "johac" |
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28 Aug 2007 05:43:25 PM |
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In article <1ai7d358sc6o5olet636masib4uehdpt5q@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:52:31 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <1i17d3ppqs929ovvej1mihidlb2qbqqbbe@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:46:27 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <8cu4d3hag7v0e3rdmmuh747jibkiho3pj9@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:36:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <MPG.213b3df654ace34498a04d@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-B9767B.00123626082007@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net says...
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
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Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Hummm, sounds like Haggard is looking for some sugar daddies. I
suspect
that Haggard would also be willing to perform other "services" for
money.
Yep. And on the side he'll probably start dealing crack.
"start"??
Oh, that sort of 'crack'!
I thought you meant the crack that builders show when bending over.
He'll likely be selling that too.
How much would you pay for 6" of crack?
But don't phone now!
Credit cards accepted.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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28 Aug 2007 09:21:39 PM |
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:43:25 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <1ai7d358sc6o5olet636masib4uehdpt5q@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:52:31 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <1i17d3ppqs929ovvej1mihidlb2qbqqbbe@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:46:27 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <8cu4d3hag7v0e3rdmmuh747jibkiho3pj9@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:36:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <MPG.213b3df654ace34498a04d@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-B9767B.00123626082007@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net says...
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
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Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Hummm, sounds like Haggard is looking for some sugar daddies. I
suspect
that Haggard would also be willing to perform other "services" for
money.
Yep. And on the side he'll probably start dealing crack.
"start"??
Oh, that sort of 'crack'!
I thought you meant the crack that builders show when bending over.
He'll likely be selling that too.
How much would you pay for 6" of crack?
But don't phone now!
Credit cards accepted.
Right.
We take all credit cards.
We don't give them back, mind.
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| User: "johac" |
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28 Aug 2007 11:38:10 PM |
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In article <s0m9d3p3r5v62284cjaqa3k2ugg2j7100f@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:43:25 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <1ai7d358sc6o5olet636masib4uehdpt5q@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 21:52:31 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <1i17d3ppqs929ovvej1mihidlb2qbqqbbe@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:46:27 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <8cu4d3hag7v0e3rdmmuh747jibkiho3pj9@4ax.com>,
Michael Gray <mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:36:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <MPG.213b3df654ace34498a04d@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-B9767B.00123626082007@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net says...
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
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Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Hummm, sounds like Haggard is looking for some sugar daddies. I
suspect
that Haggard would also be willing to perform other "services"
for
money.
Yep. And on the side he'll probably start dealing crack.
"start"??
Oh, that sort of 'crack'!
I thought you meant the crack that builders show when bending over.
He'll likely be selling that too.
How much would you pay for 6" of crack?
But don't phone now!
Credit cards accepted.
Right.
We take all credit cards.
We don't give them back, mind.
Unless we get the numbers first.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Backyard Astronomer" |
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27 Aug 2007 12:03:51 AM |
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On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:36:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <MPG.213b3df654ace34498a04d@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-B9767B.00123626082007@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net says...
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
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Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Hummm, sounds like Haggard is looking for some sugar daddies. I suspect
that Haggard would also be willing to perform other "services" for money.
Yep. And on the side he'll probably start dealing crack.
He's going to be a pimp? ;-)
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| User: "johac" |
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27 Aug 2007 05:47:18 PM |
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In article <uom4d3di4fujt1smq58aqr28f1vqf2s2pc@4ax.com>,
Backyard Astronomer <backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:36:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <MPG.213b3df654ace34498a04d@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-B9767B.00123626082007@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net says...
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
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Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Hummm, sounds like Haggard is looking for some sugar daddies. I suspect
that Haggard would also be willing to perform other "services" for money.
Yep. And on the side he'll probably start dealing crack.
He's going to be a pimp? ;-)
That's next.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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27 Aug 2007 02:13:40 AM |
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 00:03:51 -0500, Backyard Astronomer
<backyardastronomer@gmail.com> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 21:36:51 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <MPG.213b3df654ace34498a04d@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <jhachmann-B9767B.00123626082007@news.giganews.com>,
jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net says...
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
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Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Hummm, sounds like Haggard is looking for some sugar daddies. I suspect
that Haggard would also be willing to perform other "services" for money.
Yep. And on the side he'll probably start dealing crack.
He's going to be a pimp? ;-)
Fer Jeebers...
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27 Aug 2007 09:10:47 AM |
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johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
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Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Hummm, sounds like Haggard is looking for some sugar daddies. I suspect
that Haggard would also be willing to perform other "services" for money.
Yep. And on the side he'll probably start dealing crack.
Perhaps that's the "earning power" he mentions in his email...
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| User: "johac" |
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27 Aug 2007 05:42:29 PM |
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In article <1i3ht8l.76xedc1687dgoN%>,
(Scott Richter) wrote:
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
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Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Hummm, sounds like Haggard is looking for some sugar daddies. I suspect
that Haggard would also be willing to perform other "services" for money.
Yep. And on the side he'll probably start dealing crack.
Perhaps that's the "earning power" he mentions in his email...
He doesn't seem to have any other marketable skills that anybody would
want at this point.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Scott Richter" |
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28 Aug 2007 01:31:48 AM |
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johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
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Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Hummm, sounds like Haggard is looking for some sugar daddies. I
suspect that Haggard would also be willing to perform other
"services" for money.
Yep. And on the side he'll probably start dealing crack.
Perhaps that's the "earning power" he mentions in his email...
He doesn't seem to have any other marketable skills that anybody would
want at this point.
This is what bothers me most about this. Leaving aside the craven,
contemptible begging for money, according to the article Haggard wants
to become a "counselor". He still sees himself as a trusted authority
figure, and wants a job where he can influence and control other people.
He wants people to look up to him, to respect, even revere him. What
better place to do that than counseling in a "faith-based" charity.
But after all he's done to his family, friends, co-workers, and
countless followers, he should never be put in any position of authority
or trust. Because of all the crimes and sins he committed, what they
share in common is a wanton abuse of trust.
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28 Aug 2007 05:45:43 PM |
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In article <1i3j1iw.1e26lf4xszvleN%>,
(Scott Richter) wrote:
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
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Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Hummm, sounds like Haggard is looking for some sugar daddies. I
suspect that Haggard would also be willing to perform other
"services" for money.
Yep. And on the side he'll probably start dealing crack.
Perhaps that's the "earning power" he mentions in his email...
He doesn't seem to have any other marketable skills that anybody would
want at this point.
This is what bothers me most about this. Leaving aside the craven,
contemptible begging for money, according to the article Haggard wants
to become a "counselor". He still sees himself as a trusted authority
figure, and wants a job where he can influence and control other people.
He wants people to look up to him, to respect, even revere him. What
better place to do that than counseling in a "faith-based" charity.
Right. like if I had kids, I'd want to send them to him for
'counseling'. Sure.
But after all he's done to his family, friends, co-workers, and
countless followers, he should never be put in any position of authority
or trust. Because of all the crimes and sins he committed, what they
share in common is a wanton abuse of trust.
Exactly. The best thing he could do is to try to fade into obscurity.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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28 Aug 2007 02:08:24 AM |
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 23:31:48 -0700, (Scott
Richter) wrote:
johac <jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
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Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Hummm, sounds like Haggard is looking for some sugar daddies. I
suspect that Haggard would also be willing to perform other
"services" for money.
Yep. And on the side he'll probably start dealing crack.
Perhaps that's the "earning power" he mentions in his email...
He doesn't seem to have any other marketable skills that anybody would
want at this point.
This is what bothers me most about this. Leaving aside the craven,
contemptible begging for money, according to the article Haggard wants
to become a "counselor". He still sees himself as a trusted authority
But he *IS*!!
A trusted figure in the con-game!
He is more than qualified to counsel failed carnival operators and
struggling Xtian Revivalist crusaders on ways to increase their
flocks.
More than qualified.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Fallen pastor seeks financial support |
27 Aug 2007 02:08:45 PM |
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On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 00:12:36 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Sat Aug 25, 4:12 AM ET
The Rev. Ted Haggard, who left the megachurch he founded after admitting
to "sexual immorality," has asked supporters for financial assistance
while he and his wife pursue their studies.
How about this? His wife gets a job as a waitress at a hash joint and
they live in a single-wide? And he can rent himself out to supplement
her "tips".
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Fallen pastor seeks financial support |
27 Aug 2007 05:40:19 PM |
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In article <r786d3dmbqt2cuq9qnh9qlpgqc954e6qut@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 00:12:36 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Sat Aug 25, 4:12 AM ET
The Rev. Ted Haggard, who left the megachurch he founded after admitting
to "sexual immorality," has asked supporters for financial assistance
while he and his wife pursue their studies.
How about this? His wife gets a job as a waitress at a hash joint and
they live in a single-wide? And he can rent himself out to supplement
her "tips".
Heh! I can see him soliciting in church parking lots.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Fallen pastor seeks financial support |
27 Aug 2007 10:27:05 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:40:19 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <r786d3dmbqt2cuq9qnh9qlpgqc954e6qut@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 00:12:36 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Sat Aug 25, 4:12 AM ET
The Rev. Ted Haggard, who left the megachurch he founded after admitting
to "sexual immorality," has asked supporters for financial assistance
while he and his wife pursue their studies.
How about this? His wife gets a job as a waitress at a hash joint and
they live in a single-wide? And he can rent himself out to supplement
her "tips".
Heh! I can see him soliciting in church parking lots.
He could just become a choir boy in any Catlick church.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Fallen pastor seeks financial support |
27 Aug 2007 11:56:15 PM |
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In article <if57d3ti366jq2s7kd4djjvsa3i7ijuus7@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 15:40:19 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
In article <r786d3dmbqt2cuq9qnh9qlpgqc954e6qut@4ax.com>,
Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 00:12:36 -0700, johac
<jhachmann@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Sat Aug 25, 4:12 AM ET
The Rev. Ted Haggard, who left the megachurch he founded after admitting
to "sexual immorality," has asked supporters for financial assistance
while he and his wife pursue their studies.
How about this? His wife gets a job as a waitress at a hash joint and
they live in a single-wide? And he can rent himself out to supplement
her "tips".
Heh! I can see him soliciting in church parking lots.
He could just become a choir boy in any Catlick church.
Nah. The priests like them younger.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Hatter" |
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| Title: Re: Fallen pastor seeks financial support |
27 Aug 2007 03:53:13 PM |
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On Aug 27, 3:08 pm, Al Klein <ruk...@pern.invalid> wrote:
On Sun, 26 Aug 2007 00:12:36 -0700, johac
<jhachm...@remove.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Aw. Look who has his hand out.
Fallen pastor seeks financial support
Sat Aug 25, 4:12 AM ET
The Rev. Ted Haggard, who left the megachurch he founded after admitting
to "sexual immorality," has asked supporters for financial assistance
while he and his wife pursue their studies.
How about this? His wife gets a job as a waitress at a hash joint and
they live in a single-wide? And he can rent himself out to supplement
her "tips".
It is the way of these asses, I deal with them every day. Alawys when
it comes time to pay the piper(or in my case with me...Ceaser) they
cry for "consideration" and say the system is abusive. Yet while they
are raking in the bucks and let others foot the bill....everythings
ok.
Hatter
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Fallen pastor seeks financial support |
27 Aug 2007 05:18:15 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:53:13 -0000, Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
It is the way of these asses, I deal with them every day. Alawys when
it comes time to pay the piper(or in my case with me...Ceaser) they
cry for "consideration" and say the system is abusive. Yet while they
are raking in the bucks and let others foot the bill....everythings
ok.
We know that religion, to the people who actually run it, is just a
means of collecting an income without having to work. People like
Haggard, people like the Pope - it makes no difference. But children
read alt.atheism (at least one child) so I can't tell you what I
really think.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Fallen pastor seeks financial support |
27 Aug 2007 09:17:18 PM |
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On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:18:15 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:53:13 -0000, Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
It is the way of these asses, I deal with them every day. Alawys when
it comes time to pay the piper(or in my case with me...Ceaser) they
cry for "consideration" and say the system is abusive. Yet while they
are raking in the bucks and let others foot the bill....everythings
ok.
We know that religion, to the people who actually run it, is just a
means of collecting an income without having to work. People like
Haggard, people like the Pope - it makes no difference. But children
read alt.atheism (at least one child) so I can't tell you what I
really think.
I see that as a truly excellent reason to tell us exactly what you
think.
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Fallen pastor seeks financial support |
27 Aug 2007 10:27:46 PM |
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:47:18 +0930, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:18:15 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:53:13 -0000, Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
It is the way of these asses, I deal with them every day. Alawys when
it comes time to pay the piper(or in my case with me...Ceaser) they
cry for "consideration" and say the system is abusive. Yet while they
are raking in the bucks and let others foot the bill....everythings
ok.
We know that religion, to the people who actually run it, is just a
means of collecting an income without having to work. People like
Haggard, people like the Pope - it makes no difference. But children
read alt.atheism (at least one child) so I can't tell you what I
really think.
I see that as a truly excellent reason to tell us exactly what you
think.
Only if you volunteer to be Robyn's target when she sets her phazer on
kill.
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| User: "Robibnikoff" |
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| Title: Re: Fallen pastor seeks financial support |
28 Aug 2007 08:44:57 AM |
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"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote in message
news:ig57d31q57iqndsqathudvkv1iqcledksr@4ax.com...
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:47:18 +0930, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:18:15 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Mon, 27 Aug 2007 20:53:13 -0000, Hatter <Hatter23@gmail.com> wrote:
It is the way of these asses, I deal with them every day. Alawys when
it comes time to pay the piper(or in my case with me...Ceaser) they
cry for "consideration" and say the system is abusive. Yet while they
are raking in the bucks and let others foot the bill....everythings
ok.
We know that religion, to the people who actually run it, is just a
means of collecting an income without having to work. People like
Haggard, people like the Pope - it makes no difference. But children
read alt.atheism (at least one child) so I can't tell you what I
really think.
I see that as a truly excellent reason to tell us exactly what you
think.
Only if you volunteer to be Robyn's target when she sets her phazer on
kill.
Hey, say whatever the ***** you want. I don't let the witchling sit and read
the newsgroup - I might point out a certain message here and there, but
that's it.
No offense, guys, but she'd really rather hang out on Neopets.com ;)
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Fallen pastor seeks financial support |
28 Aug 2007 12:41:20 PM |
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:44:57 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
No offense, guys, but she'd really rather hang out on Neopets.com ;)
I think my great nephew (about her age) is familiar with it, even
though he's more into killing things.
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Fallen pastor seeks financial support |
28 Aug 2007 08:47:36 PM |
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On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:41:20 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:44:57 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
No offense, guys, but she'd really rather hang out on Neopets.com ;)
I think my great nephew (about her age) is familiar with it, even
though he's more into killing things.
A proto-Catholic?
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Fallen pastor seeks financial support |
29 Aug 2007 11:50:55 AM |
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On Wed, 29 Aug 2007 11:17:36 +0930, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:41:20 -0400, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid>
wrote:
On Tue, 28 Aug 2007 09:44:57 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> wrote:
No offense, guys, but she'd really rather hang out on Neopets.com ;)
I think my great nephew (about her age) is familiar with it, even
though he's more into killing things.
A proto-Catholic?
A proto-sojer, like Daddy.
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