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08 Feb 2007 12:38:12 PM |
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Falwell has eyes on 2008 |
He should go a retreat with Haggard. If gawd can 'cure' Haggard of being
gay, maybe he can cure Jerry of being stupid. (Not likely.)
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Rightwing warrior Falwell has eyes on 2008
By Ed Stoddard1 hour, 46 minutes ago
His influence may be diminished but his zeal is undaunted. Evangelist
Jerry Falwell is on a mission to keep a like-minded Republican in the
White House and get at least one more conservative judge on the Supreme
Court.
Despite his years in the trenches of America's culture wars, Falwell --
who founded the Moral Majority political movement in 1979 and helped
propel the rise of the religious right -- said a major victory in his
broader crusade to restore the country's moral righteousness has so far
eluded him.
With abortion still legal, prayer banned in public schools and
pornography rife, he sees a long struggle ahead. For now, he is focusing
on voter registration drives and rallying the faithful with his eyes on
the twin prizes of the 2008 presidential election and control of the
Supreme Court.
Some of his statements -- he famously blamed gays and lesbians for
provoking the September 11 attacks -- have eroded some of his
conservative support base. But he remains a rallying figure on the far
U.S. right.
"I think we got the social and moral issues on the front burner. But
while we have made progress ... we have not won any of the battles yet,"
Falwell told Reuters in an interview.
"It is a long road back. We are at least one U.S. Supreme Court Justice
short of a socially conservative court," Falwell said on the sidelines
of an evangelist conference in Dallas.
By a long road back Falwell was referring to his youth in the 1930s and
1940s -- a period he feels brought out the best in a strong nation that
adhered to "old fashioned values."
Getting a Supreme Court -- whose members are appointed by the president
-- that would overturn the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that legalized
abortion in America would be a major step down that road.
Ensuring another religious conservative Republican replaces President
George W. Bush in the 2008 election is another.
CAUSING A STIR
Falwell, founder and pastor of a megachurch in Lynchburg, Virginia,
provoked a storm of derision when he said gays, lesbians and
abortionists were partly to blame for the hijacked plane attacks in
September 2001.
He was later quoted by CNN as saying that only terrorists were to blame
but he believed attempts to secularize America had prompted "God to lift
the veil of protection" that had shielded the United States from attacks
in the past.
The 73-year-old Falwell has used his multi-layered platform as a Baptist
preacher, televangelist and university chancellor to promote the
religious right -- a movement that seeks to redraw U.S. public policy
along biblical lines and is associated with the Republican Party.
Critics contend it wants to impose an intolerant theocracy in America;
cynics say it has been used by the Republican Party to galvanize its
voter base without delivering victory in any of the battles that Falwell
admits he has yet to win.
Supporters say the movement enjoys broad popularity in a country with 60
million evangelicals and that it harkens to the country's Christian
roots.
With his silver hair and heavy jowls, Falwell's face remains a familiar
one on the conservative speakers circuit though his influence has waned
since the days when he headed the Moral Majority in the 1980s.
His revived Moral Majority Coalition does not have the clout that its
predecessor enjoyed.
"Because of his prominence, Falwell still carries some weight among
religious conservatives but he doesn't have the organizational power
that he once had," said John Green, a political scientist at the
University of Akron.
But heavyweight Republicans still court Falwell.
Arizona Senator and Republican front-runner for the 2008 crown John
McCain (news, bio, voting record) pointedly spoke at Falwell's Liberty
University in Virginia last year.
Falwell said he had spoken with many of the leading Republican hopefuls
for the party's 2008 presidential nomination -- including former
Massachusetts governor Gov. Mitt Romney and Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback
(news, bio, voting record).
"I like every one of them," Falwell said, but he added that he would
make no endorsements before the primaries.
HILARY SEEN AS TOUGH OPPONENT
Falwell said Republicans needed to be in battle mode as he expected Sen.
Hillary Rodham Clinton to carry the Democratic banner.
"She would most certainly be a formidable opponent. She is a bright lady
and she has the No. 1 campaign manager in the world (former President
Bill Clinton). If she can keep his attention focused, he can do her a
lot of good," he said.
Falwell said his public policy goals were simple.
"My goal is to do my little part to preserve America for our children
and grandchildren, the kind of America that I grew up in," he said.
But he said there was one element from his childhood that he did not
want to see restored -- racial segregation, which was the law of the
land in the South when he was growing up.
"I was born in 1933 in Virginia. I didn't know anyone who wasn't a
segregationist. My father was an ardent one. It wasn't until I became a
Christian as a sophomore in college that I got past that," he said.
"I wasn't changed by any politician; I was changed by the Lord," he
added.
---
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070208/lf_nm/usa_falwell_dc_2
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Bill M" |
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| Title: Re: Falwell has eyes on 2008 |
08 Feb 2007 02:32:55 PM |
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He is just an idiot that appeals to other idiots! Nothing more.
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-3DA828.10381208022007@news.giganews.com...
He should go a retreat with Haggard. If gawd can 'cure' Haggard of being
gay, maybe he can cure Jerry of being stupid. (Not likely.)
---
Rightwing warrior Falwell has eyes on 2008
By Ed Stoddard1 hour, 46 minutes ago
His influence may be diminished but his zeal is undaunted. Evangelist
Jerry Falwell is on a mission to keep a like-minded Republican in the
White House and get at least one more conservative judge on the Supreme
Court.
Despite his years in the trenches of America's culture wars, Falwell --
who founded the Moral Majority political movement in 1979 and helped
propel the rise of the religious right -- said a major victory in his
broader crusade to restore the country's moral righteousness has so far
eluded him.
With abortion still legal, prayer banned in public schools and
pornography rife, he sees a long struggle ahead. For now, he is focusing
on voter registration drives and rallying the faithful with his eyes on
the twin prizes of the 2008 presidential election and control of the
Supreme Court.
Some of his statements -- he famously blamed gays and lesbians for
provoking the September 11 attacks -- have eroded some of his
conservative support base. But he remains a rallying figure on the far
U.S. right.
"I think we got the social and moral issues on the front burner. But
while we have made progress ... we have not won any of the battles yet,"
Falwell told Reuters in an interview.
"It is a long road back. We are at least one U.S. Supreme Court Justice
short of a socially conservative court," Falwell said on the sidelines
of an evangelist conference in Dallas.
By a long road back Falwell was referring to his youth in the 1930s and
1940s -- a period he feels brought out the best in a strong nation that
adhered to "old fashioned values."
Getting a Supreme Court -- whose members are appointed by the president
-- that would overturn the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that legalized
abortion in America would be a major step down that road.
Ensuring another religious conservative Republican replaces President
George W. Bush in the 2008 election is another.
CAUSING A STIR
Falwell, founder and pastor of a megachurch in Lynchburg, Virginia,
provoked a storm of derision when he said gays, lesbians and
abortionists were partly to blame for the hijacked plane attacks in
September 2001.
He was later quoted by CNN as saying that only terrorists were to blame
but he believed attempts to secularize America had prompted "God to lift
the veil of protection" that had shielded the United States from attacks
in the past.
The 73-year-old Falwell has used his multi-layered platform as a Baptist
preacher, televangelist and university chancellor to promote the
religious right -- a movement that seeks to redraw U.S. public policy
along biblical lines and is associated with the Republican Party.
Critics contend it wants to impose an intolerant theocracy in America;
cynics say it has been used by the Republican Party to galvanize its
voter base without delivering victory in any of the battles that Falwell
admits he has yet to win.
Supporters say the movement enjoys broad popularity in a country with 60
million evangelicals and that it harkens to the country's Christian
roots.
With his silver hair and heavy jowls, Falwell's face remains a familiar
one on the conservative speakers circuit though his influence has waned
since the days when he headed the Moral Majority in the 1980s.
His revived Moral Majority Coalition does not have the clout that its
predecessor enjoyed.
"Because of his prominence, Falwell still carries some weight among
religious conservatives but he doesn't have the organizational power
that he once had," said John Green, a political scientist at the
University of Akron.
But heavyweight Republicans still court Falwell.
Arizona Senator and Republican front-runner for the 2008 crown John
McCain (news, bio, voting record) pointedly spoke at Falwell's Liberty
University in Virginia last year.
Falwell said he had spoken with many of the leading Republican hopefuls
for the party's 2008 presidential nomination -- including former
Massachusetts governor Gov. Mitt Romney and Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback
(news, bio, voting record).
"I like every one of them," Falwell said, but he added that he would
make no endorsements before the primaries.
HILARY SEEN AS TOUGH OPPONENT
Falwell said Republicans needed to be in battle mode as he expected Sen.
Hillary Rodham Clinton to carry the Democratic banner.
"She would most certainly be a formidable opponent. She is a bright lady
and she has the No. 1 campaign manager in the world (former President
Bill Clinton). If she can keep his attention focused, he can do her a
lot of good," he said.
Falwell said his public policy goals were simple.
"My goal is to do my little part to preserve America for our children
and grandchildren, the kind of America that I grew up in," he said.
But he said there was one element from his childhood that he did not
want to see restored -- racial segregation, which was the law of the
land in the South when he was growing up.
"I was born in 1933 in Virginia. I didn't know anyone who wasn't a
segregationist. My father was an ardent one. It wasn't until I became a
Christian as a sophomore in college that I got past that," he said.
"I wasn't changed by any politician; I was changed by the Lord," he
added.
---
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070208/lf_nm/usa_falwell_dc_2
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit
atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "DH" |
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| Title: Re: Falwell has eyes on 2008 |
08 Feb 2007 04:07:22 PM |
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"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:2OLyh.264$I8.78@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
He is just an idiot that appeals to other idiots! Nothing more.
Unfortunately, there's no shortage of idiots.
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-3DA828.10381208022007@news.giganews.com...
He should go a retreat with Haggard. If gawd can 'cure' Haggard of being
gay, maybe he can cure Jerry of being stupid. (Not likely.)
---
Rightwing warrior Falwell has eyes on 2008
By Ed Stoddard1 hour, 46 minutes ago
His influence may be diminished but his zeal is undaunted. Evangelist
Jerry Falwell is on a mission to keep a like-minded Republican in the
White House and get at least one more conservative judge on the Supreme
Court.
Despite his years in the trenches of America's culture wars, Falwell --
who founded the Moral Majority political movement in 1979 and helped
propel the rise of the religious right -- said a major victory in his
broader crusade to restore the country's moral righteousness has so far
eluded him.
With abortion still legal, prayer banned in public schools and
pornography rife, he sees a long struggle ahead. For now, he is focusing
on voter registration drives and rallying the faithful with his eyes on
the twin prizes of the 2008 presidential election and control of the
Supreme Court.
Some of his statements -- he famously blamed gays and lesbians for
provoking the September 11 attacks -- have eroded some of his
conservative support base. But he remains a rallying figure on the far
U.S. right.
"I think we got the social and moral issues on the front burner. But
while we have made progress ... we have not won any of the battles yet,"
Falwell told Reuters in an interview.
"It is a long road back. We are at least one U.S. Supreme Court Justice
short of a socially conservative court," Falwell said on the sidelines
of an evangelist conference in Dallas.
By a long road back Falwell was referring to his youth in the 1930s and
1940s -- a period he feels brought out the best in a strong nation that
adhered to "old fashioned values."
Getting a Supreme Court -- whose members are appointed by the president
-- that would overturn the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision that legalized
abortion in America would be a major step down that road.
Ensuring another religious conservative Republican replaces President
George W. Bush in the 2008 election is another.
CAUSING A STIR
Falwell, founder and pastor of a megachurch in Lynchburg, Virginia,
provoked a storm of derision when he said gays, lesbians and
abortionists were partly to blame for the hijacked plane attacks in
September 2001.
He was later quoted by CNN as saying that only terrorists were to blame
but he believed attempts to secularize America had prompted "God to lift
the veil of protection" that had shielded the United States from attacks
in the past.
The 73-year-old Falwell has used his multi-layered platform as a Baptist
preacher, televangelist and university chancellor to promote the
religious right -- a movement that seeks to redraw U.S. public policy
along biblical lines and is associated with the Republican Party.
Critics contend it wants to impose an intolerant theocracy in America;
cynics say it has been used by the Republican Party to galvanize its
voter base without delivering victory in any of the battles that Falwell
admits he has yet to win.
Supporters say the movement enjoys broad popularity in a country with 60
million evangelicals and that it harkens to the country's Christian
roots.
With his silver hair and heavy jowls, Falwell's face remains a familiar
one on the conservative speakers circuit though his influence has waned
since the days when he headed the Moral Majority in the 1980s.
His revived Moral Majority Coalition does not have the clout that its
predecessor enjoyed.
"Because of his prominence, Falwell still carries some weight among
religious conservatives but he doesn't have the organizational power
that he once had," said John Green, a political scientist at the
University of Akron.
But heavyweight Republicans still court Falwell.
Arizona Senator and Republican front-runner for the 2008 crown John
McCain (news, bio, voting record) pointedly spoke at Falwell's Liberty
University in Virginia last year.
Falwell said he had spoken with many of the leading Republican hopefuls
for the party's 2008 presidential nomination -- including former
Massachusetts governor Gov. Mitt Romney and Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback
(news, bio, voting record).
"I like every one of them," Falwell said, but he added that he would
make no endorsements before the primaries.
HILARY SEEN AS TOUGH OPPONENT
Falwell said Republicans needed to be in battle mode as he expected Sen.
Hillary Rodham Clinton to carry the Democratic banner.
"She would most certainly be a formidable opponent. She is a bright lady
and she has the No. 1 campaign manager in the world (former President
Bill Clinton). If she can keep his attention focused, he can do her a
lot of good," he said.
Falwell said his public policy goals were simple.
"My goal is to do my little part to preserve America for our children
and grandchildren, the kind of America that I grew up in," he said.
But he said there was one element from his childhood that he did not
want to see restored -- racial segregation, which was the law of the
land in the South when he was growing up.
"I was born in 1933 in Virginia. I didn't know anyone who wasn't a
segregationist. My father was an ardent one. It wasn't until I became a
Christian as a sophomore in college that I got past that," he said.
"I wasn't changed by any politician; I was changed by the Lord," he
added.
---
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070208/lf_nm/usa_falwell_dc_2
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit
atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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11 Feb 2007 12:33:27 AM |
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In article <45cb9290$0$16308$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>,
"DH" <dh@stargate.com> wrote:
"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:2OLyh.264$I8.78@bignews8.bellsouth.net...
He is just an idiot that appeals to other idiots! Nothing more.
Unfortunately, there's no shortage of idiots.
Sadly, I must agree.
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-3DA828.10381208022007@news.giganews.com...
He should go a retreat with Haggard. If gawd can 'cure' Haggard of being
gay, maybe he can cure Jerry of being stupid. (Not likely.)
---
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070208/lf_nm/usa_falwell_dc_2
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Doc Smartass" |
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08 Feb 2007 05:06:54 PM |
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"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:2OLyh.264$I8.78
@bignews8.bellsouth.net:
He is just an idiot that appeals to other idiots! Nothing more.
A fool can throw into a pond a pebble that a thousand men cannot find.
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Doc Smartass, BAAWA Knight of Heckling
aa # 1939
AUTHORITARIANS ARE PERVERTS. Why?
--They consider themselves shepherds.
--They consider the rest of us sheep.
--Shepherds ***** sheep.
--Therefore AUTHORITARIANS ARE PERVERTS.
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| User: "Kevin Anthoney" |
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08 Feb 2007 02:40:11 PM |
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Bill M wrote:
He is just an idiot that appeals to other idiots! Nothing more.
So's the current guy, and look at the damage he's done.
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-3DA828.10381208022007@news.giganews.com...
He should go a retreat with Haggard. If gawd can 'cure' Haggard of being
gay, maybe he can cure Jerry of being stupid. (Not likely.)
---
Rightwing warrior Falwell has eyes on 2008
By Ed Stoddard1 hour, 46 minutes ago
His influence may be diminished but his zeal is undaunted. Evangelist
Jerry Falwell is on a mission to keep a like-minded Republican in the
White House and get at least one more conservative judge on the Supreme
Court.
--
Kevin Anthoney
kanthoney[a]dsl.pipex.com
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| User: "johac" |
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08 Feb 2007 11:46:53 PM |
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In article <2OLyh.264$I8.78@bignews8.bellsouth.net>,
"Bill M" <wmech@bellsouth.net> wrote:
He is just an idiot that appeals to other idiots! Nothing more.
But idiots can do a lot of damage. I give as an example the current
administration.
"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-3DA828.10381208022007@news.giganews.com...
He should go a retreat with Haggard. If gawd can 'cure' Haggard of being
gay, maybe he can cure Jerry of being stupid. (Not likely.)
---
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070208/lf_nm/usa_falwell_dc_2
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John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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