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User: ""
Date: 29 Dec 2006 11:34:50 AM
Object: Falwell, Hitler, Bush2, Desertphile, Yang
Desertphile wrote in Re: The Nazis attempted to dejudaize Christianity
(Re: FACT: Hitler DENOUNCED Atheism):

Eugene Holman wrote:

Hitler pretended to be a Christian in public, but in private he considered

[snip]
Desertphile wrote in "Re: FACT: Hitler Build Churches During the
Christian Third Reich":

Glenn wrote:

You and your fellow loons are fooling no one but
yourselves, and certainly not Christians.

Feynman on giving all the information
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.95.970912002214.12893C-100000%40umbc8.umbc.edu
some of that Feynman, but more directly from Feynman, in
Davies, National Academy of Sciences, Dawkins, Feynman
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.96A.990511230015.1040149B-100000%40umbc9.umbc.edu

Those who claim Hitler was a
Christian deserve the same acclaim as holocaust deniers. And that, *is*
perfectly reasonable.


You have confused quanity of behavior with quality of behavior. Pat
Robertson has often advocated a great deal of behavior that Hitler and
other fascists in the world (such as Bush2 and other members of The
Party) advocated and implemented. Robertson's Christianity matches
Hitler's Christianity (and "bimms' Christianity) quite closely, I'm sad
to say.

Jerry Falwell once advocated the genocide of several hundred thousand
civilians in Vietnam, saying it was "regretable but necessary." The
plan he advocated, when giving SPIRITUAL ADVICE to Richard Nixon, would
have killed mostly children and elderly Vietnamese.

Falwell's Christianity was right up there with Hitler's, Bush2's,
Robertson's, etc. There is no difference except in how their
Christianity was inflicted upon their victims.

1. "Pat Robertson has often advocated a great deal of behavior that
Hitler... implemented"
Details?
Mindreader Mitchell: Hitler was "anti-abortion"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1141921380.312364.144060%40i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
2. "fascists in the world (such as Bush2 and other members of The
Party"
Do you consider ***** Cheney and Condi Rice "fascists"?
Do you hate "Bush2"?
Chait in _The New Republic_: "I hate President George W. Bush."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1161052198.716267.39170%40i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
2005 President Bush inaugural speech
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-35nbd1F4pm3jiU1%40individual.net
Do you hate the Republicans?
DNC's Defeatocrat Dean: "I hate the Republicans and everything they
stand for"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1161138356.554236.23700%40i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Keillor: "Republicans: ...deaf, dumb and dangerous"; "the party of
Lincoln and Liberty was transmogrified into the party of... faith-based
economists, fundamentalist bullies with Bibles, Christians of
convenience"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1160751787.449878.186510%40k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
3. "Hitler's Christianity"
Hitler was an atheist. Just like Stalin, Mao, Lenin, Marx, Haeckel,
Pol Pot, and Kim Jong-il.
become like famous mass-killer atheists, and have others worship you
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1152629227.581932.229990%40s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Gould: "Haeckel.... contributed to the rise of Nazism"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1158864074.051352.81770%40h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
do you consider the atheist Marx a 'bigot'?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1141916925.353567.255240%40i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
4. "Jerry Falwell once advocated the genocide of several hundred
thousand civilians in Vietnam.... The plan he advocated"
Details about Falwell's "plan"?
Geyer gets it incorrect about N. Vietnam
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1149610319.495692.102500%40y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
Coulter fuller text, in
agree with these Defeatocrat Murtha and Defeatocrat Dean views?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1161111191.437514.279630%40f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
parallels between Iraq and Vietnam
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1161972867.081577.123200%40e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com
5. "fascists in the world (such as Bush2"
Chazan, Aaron. 1990. _Deep In the Russian Night_ (USA: C.I.S.
Publishers), 243pp. On Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/Deep-Russian-Night-Aron-Hazan/dp/156062034X/ref=ed_oe_p/105-8508322-0625202
On 83:
Everyone lived with the fear that he would soon end
up in prison [during atheism-adherent Stalin's 1937-8
Great Terror]. More than any other group, the
[not-secular] religious were in grave danger. [Aaron
Chazan was a Judaism-adherent who didn't shave
his beard and who didn't work on the Sabbath. -df]
Hundreds of people disappeared daily....
....a middle-aged man with a red star of distinction...
confronted me.
"Do you believe in G-d?"
"Yes," I answered.
"Fascist!" he shrieked.
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
factoids on atheism-adherent Stalin's 1937-8 Great Terror
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1166240537.094725.53530%40l12g2000cwl.googlegroups.com
Marxist-Leninist atheism-adherents responsible for the killing of 94+
million
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1167099703.362978.48000%40i12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
freethinker/ atheist neo-Nazis
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1133809875.498392.214750%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Multi-Pronged Role of Darwinian Thought in Shoah's Arrival
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132080322.482544.299440%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Hitler's actions make sense given his atheism and eugenic, social
Darwinist vision
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1134145559.645139.229550%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
sandblast away the Jew Moses and his 10 Commandments?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1167317534.845204.208870%40a3g2000cwd.googlegroups.com
my mistake, Yang
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1167412098.095521.137020%40k21g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
.

User: "Salah Jafar"

Title: Re: Falwell, Hitler, Bush2, Desertphile, Yang 29 Dec 2006 11:51:42 AM
Please don't dishonor my beloved hero Adolph Hitler.
SJ
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: Falwell, Hitler, Bush2, Desertphile, Yang 29 Dec 2006 02:45:44 PM
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:51:42 GMT, "Salah Jafar"
<salahjafar@hotmail.com> wrote:

Please don't dishonor my beloved hero Adolph Hitler.

No need - you just did.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: Falwell, Hitler, Bush2, Desertphile, Yang 29 Dec 2006 10:09:38 PM
Al Klein wrote:

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:51:42 GMT, "Salah Jafar"
<salahjafar@hotmail.com> wrote:

Please don't dishonor my beloved hero Adolph Hitler.


No need - you just did.

Salah, could you please ask that the god Darwin not be dishonored?
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Paul Johnson
http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&program=CSC%20-%20Views%20and%20News&id=2828
At a revivalist meeting of Darwinians
two or three years ago, I heard
the chairman, the fiction-writer Ian
McEwan, call out, 'Yes, we do
think God is an old man in the sky
with a beard, and his name is
Charles Darwin.
About meeting the god Darwin, that Prophet of Evolution and Atheism in
Germany, Ernst Haeckel, wrote this:
It was as if some exalted sage of Hellenic antiquity...
stood in the flesh before me.... [cited in Milner, 205]
Gould: "Haeckel.... contributed to the rise of Nazism"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1158864074.051352.81770%40h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
1874 Huxley: "unbelieving dogs who resist the Prophet of Evolution"
i.e. Haeckel
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1141181413.323360.165370%40p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com
The god Darwin talks to and through his prophets.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-37f8trF5cdutnU1%40individual.net
1979 Gould & Lewontin on Darwin's sainthood
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135620622.450174.274380%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Darwin's bible; Hsu
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3a18k3F66sgjpU1%40individual.net
1918 Henry Adams on Quotemining and Darwinianity in 1867-8
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1133804198.957715.189070%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Darwin quotes appropriate for neo-Nazi forums?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1159496920.958389.61540%40k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Hitler & Darwin URLs
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1140576033.123225.228290%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
.

User: "charles"

Title: Re: Falwell, Hitler, Bush2, Desertphile, Yang 29 Dec 2006 08:02:58 PM
Hitler surely saw the Old Testament God of war and slaughter with
favour but saw the one of the New Testament as a feeble weakling. His
intention was to gradually ween the German public away from the Old
Faith and replace it with his own scripture, Mein Kemph. He even had a
Nazi shrine and sanctuary built in Wewensgarden located as the
"center of the Nazi faith." His new religion was largely
associated with old pagan gods and of course, their racist doctrines.
Their sole moral formula was "might is right."
Charles, http://humanpurpose.simplenet.comn
Klein wrote:

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 17:51:42 GMT, "Salah Jafar"
<salahjafar@hotmail.com> wrote:

Please don't dishonor my beloved hero Adolph Hitler.


No need - you just did.

.
User: "Ben Goren"

Title: Re: Falwell, Hitler, Bush2, Desertphile, Yang 29 Dec 2006 09:02:47 PM
charles wrote:

Hitler surely saw the Old Testament God of war and slaughter
with favour but saw the one of the New Testament as a feeble
weakling. His intention was to gradually ween the German public
away from the Old Faith and replace it with his own scripture,
Mein Kemph. He even had a Nazi shrine and sanctuary built in
Wewensgarden located as the "center of the Nazi faith." His new
religion was largely associated with old pagan gods and of
course, their racist doctrines. Their sole moral formula was
"might is right."

Er...which /Mein Kampf/ did you read, again? Because the one /I/
read quoted Jesus left and right. Hitler's anti-Semitism was a
purely Christian one, founded on the plain words of the Gospels.
Once you remember that the Jews of first century Judea were
referred to as ``Pharisees,'' and you recall Jesus's passionate,
vitriolic hatred for the Pharisees, it'll all make perfect sense.
Hitler traced the Jewish banking conspiracy back to the scene
with the money lenders. He blamed the Jews for persecuting and
eventually murdering Jesus. Essentially, he considered Jews to be
Jesus's arch-enemies.
And, sure enough, according to the Gospels, they were. Even in the
Sermon on the Mount Jesus doesn't miss an opportunity to condemn
the Jews to eternal hellfire.
Don't be misled by the whole ``but Jesus was a Jew!'' argument,
either. Orpheus was a Thracian, yet it was the Thracians who
were his arch-enemies, and in exactly the same way as with
Jesus and the Jews. Biblical anti-Jesus Judaism and Orphic
hatred of Thracians were both based upon profoundly distorted
caricatures of the peoples, taking their most prized qualities and
portraying them as having diametrically opposing qualities. Both,
for example, had highly refined judicial systems (though their
laws would be considered immoral by modern standards), yet both
Jesus and Orpheus were subjected to shameful mockeries of trials
led by kangaroo courts and subsequently executed in barbaric ways
forbidden by their respective cultures.
Cheers,
b&
--
EAC Memographer
BAAWA Knight of Blasphemy
``All but God can prove this sentence true.''
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User: ""

Title: Re: Falwell, Hitler, Bush2, Desertphile, Yang 29 Dec 2006 10:00:58 PM
Ben Goren wrote:

Er...which /Mein Kampf/ did you read, again? Because the one /I/
read quoted Jesus left and right. Hitler's anti-Semitism was a
purely Christian one, founded on the plain words of the Gospels.

Luther's and Hitler's antis- were very different
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1149000825.650983.94540%40j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Darwinist Bolsche; Nazi Darwinist Johann S.
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1143660228.632158.182410%40t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Claim: Haeckel joined the Thule Society.
Reality: that claim is unsubstantiated:
control - f/ "find" for: the search
http://www.waldorfcritics.com/active/archives/WCA0102.2.html
control - f/ "find" for: apologies
http://www.xn--enzyklopdie-s8a.de/Ernst_Haeckel.html

Once you remember that the Jews of first century Judea were
referred to as ``Pharisees,'' and you recall Jesus's passionate,
vitriolic hatred for the Pharisees, it'll all make perfect sense.

"the Jews of first century Judea were referred to as 'Pharisees,'''
Were "the Jews of first century Judea" also "referred to as"
'Sadducees'?
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Matthew 22 (New International Version)
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew%2022;&version=31;
34 Hearing that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees,
the Pharisees got together.
agree with these Talmud complaints about Jesus?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1154440894.887558.44620%40m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com

Hitler traced the Jewish banking conspiracy back to the scene
with the money lenders. He blamed the Jews for persecuting and
eventually murdering Jesus.

According to Hitler, who were "Jews"?
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
agree with Hitler about who 'Jews' are?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1136226458.258397.34490%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com

Essentially, he considered Jews to be
Jesus's arch-enemies.

And, sure enough, according to the Gospels, they were. Even in the
Sermon on the Mount Jesus doesn't miss an opportunity to condemn
the Jews to eternal hellfire.

Reference?

Don't be misled by the whole ``but Jesus was a Jew!'' argument,
either. Orpheus was a Thracian, yet it was the Thracians who
were his arch-enemies, and in exactly the same way as with
Jesus and the Jews. Biblical anti-Jesus Judaism and Orphic
hatred of Thracians were both based upon profoundly distorted
caricatures of the peoples, taking their most prized qualities and
portraying them as having diametrically opposing qualities. Both,
for example, had highly refined judicial systems (though their
laws would be considered immoral by modern standards), yet both
Jesus and Orpheus were subjected to shameful mockeries of trials
led by kangaroo courts and subsequently executed in barbaric ways
forbidden by their respective cultures.

"Jesus and Orpheus were... executed in barbaric ways forbidden by their
respective cultures"
Was crucifixion "forbidden by" the Roman culture?

Cheers,

b&

--
EAC Memographer
BAAWA Knight of Blasphemy
``All but God can prove this sentence true.''

.

User: "Mike"

Title: Re: Falwell, Hitler, Bush2, Desertphile, Yang 30 Dec 2006 11:12:58 AM
Ben Goren wrote:

charles wrote:

Hitler surely saw the Old Testament God of war and slaughter
with favour but saw the one of the New Testament as a feeble
weakling. His intention was to gradually ween the German public
away from the Old Faith and replace it with his own scripture,
Mein Kemph. He even had a Nazi shrine and sanctuary built in
Wewensgarden located as the "center of the Nazi faith." His new
religion was largely associated with old pagan gods and of
course, their racist doctrines. Their sole moral formula was
"might is right."


Er...which /Mein Kampf/ did you read, again? Because the one /I/
read quoted Jesus left and right. Hitler's anti-Semitism was a
purely Christian one, founded on the plain words of the Gospels.
Once you remember that the Jews of first century Judea were
referred to as ``Pharisees,'' and you recall Jesus's passionate,
vitriolic hatred for the Pharisees, it'll all make perfect sense.

And when you remember that the Pharisees were but a SMALL sect or group
of Jews and that there were also the Sadducees, the Essenes and the
non-sectarian jews, it all doesn't make sense (at least not the sense
you want it to make.)

Hitler traced the Jewish banking conspiracy back to the scene
with the money lenders. He blamed the Jews for persecuting and
eventually murdering Jesus. Essentially, he considered Jews to be
Jesus's arch-enemies.

And, sure enough, according to the Gospels, they were. Even in the
Sermon on the Mount Jesus doesn't miss an opportunity to condemn
the Jews to eternal hellfire.

He condemned the non-believers and those who didn't/wouldn't follow him
and his ideas/ideals to hellfire. Who, exactly, do you think he was
preaching TO if it wasn't to other jews????? But there were large groups
of jews that did not like the Pharisees (much like democrats and
republicans today.)


Don't be misled by the whole ``but Jesus was a Jew!'' argument,
either. Orpheus was a Thracian, yet it was the Thracians who
were his arch-enemies, and in exactly the same way as with
Jesus and the Jews. Biblical anti-Jesus Judaism and Orphic
hatred of Thracians were both based upon profoundly distorted
caricatures of the peoples, taking their most prized qualities and
portraying them as having diametrically opposing qualities. Both,
for example, had highly refined judicial systems (though their
laws would be considered immoral by modern standards), yet both
Jesus and Orpheus were subjected to shameful mockeries of trials
led by kangaroo courts and subsequently executed in barbaric ways
forbidden by their respective cultures.

Cheers,

b&

.




User: ""

Title: Re: Falwell, Hitler, Bush2, Desertphile, Yang 29 Dec 2006 01:47:11 PM
Salah Jafar wrote:

Please don't dishonor my beloved hero Adolph Hitler.

Have I done so?
If 'yes,' how?
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
1939 R. T. Smallbones: "The explanation for this outbreak of sadistic
cruelty may be that sexual perversion, and, in particular,
homosexuality, are very prevalent in Germany."
Igra: homosexuality a "poisoned stream" in human history
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1144986392.404825.109570%40z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
Mend
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1143649100.859299.209200%40v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com
.


User: "Yang, AthD h.c"

Title: FACT: Hitler OPPOSED Abortion (As a Good Christian Should) 29 Dec 2006 12:31:27 PM
Who could be a better Christian than pro-life Adolf Hitler?
http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/talks/backlash.html
"In 1943 Hitler made abortion a crime punishable by death"
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2990 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
rec.art.scifi.written
sci.archaeology
soc.history.what-if
.
User: "Al Klein"

Title: Re: FACT: Hitler OPPOSED Abortion (As a Good Christian Should) 29 Dec 2006 02:36:22 PM
On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:31:27 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:

Who could be a better Christian than pro-life Adolf Hitler?

http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/talks/backlash.html

"In 1943 Hitler made abortion a crime punishable by death"

IOW, it was illegal to kill them until AFTER they were born. Kind of
like an heroic effort to save the life of a death row prisoner on the
eve of his execution. Stupidity, they name is religion.
.
User: ""

Title: Re: FACT: Hitler OPPOSED Abortion (As a Good Christian Should) 29 Dec 2006 05:06:41 PM
Al Klein wrote:

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:31:27 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:

Including abortion of 'Jewish' pre-born human life?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1117728794.205506.167330%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com
Mindreader Mitchell: Hitler was "anti-abortion"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1141921380.312364.144060%40i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com

Who could be a better Christian than pro-life Adolf Hitler?

http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/talks/backlash.html

"In 1943 Hitler made abortion a crime punishable by death"


IOW, it was illegal to kill them until AFTER they were born. Kind of
like an heroic effort to save the life of a death row prisoner on the
eve of his execution.

If you were in 1938 Nazi Germany, would you have opposed or supported
the killing of Baby Knauer?
From
1997 Wesley Smith on Germany's slippery slope slide from devaluing
some human life to a little euthanasia/ killing to mass killings
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-3abe1cF6ac7t2U1%40individual.net
That case came to their
attention in late 1938. A baby had been born with birth
defects: Baby Knauer was blind and had a leg and part of
an arm missing. The parents were distraught and,
accepting the general value system of their time, were
deeply ashamed to have brought a useless eater into the
world. They wrote requesting permission to have their
child "put to sleep." Hitler was quite interested in the
case and sent one of his personal physicians, Karl
Rudolph Brandt, to investigate. Brandt's instructions
from the Fuhrer were to verify the facts of the baby's
condition and, if true, to assure the child's doctors and
her parents that if she was killed, no one would face
punishment or liability. Brandt was then to witness the
euthanasia and report back to Hitler. The doctors in the
case who met with Brandt agreed that there was "no
justification for keeping the child alive," and Baby
Knauer soon became one of the first victims of the
Holocaust.^27

Stupidity, they name is religion.

Hitler's secular religion
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1120837574.592972.268980%40g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Hitler's actions make sense given his atheism and eugenic, social
Darwinist vision
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1134145559.645139.229550%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
.
User: "Yang, AthD h.c"

Title: Re: FACT: Hitler OPPOSED Abortion (As a Good Christian Should) 29 Dec 2006 05:12:15 PM
On 29 Dec 2006 15:06:41 -0800,
wrote:

Al Klein wrote:

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:31:27 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:


Including abortion of 'Jewish' pre-born human life?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1117728794.205506.167330%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com

Including Hitler's Christian stance on abortion
http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/talks/backlash.html
"In 1943 Hitler made abortion a crime punishable by death"
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -2990 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
rec.art.scifi.written
sci.archaeology
soc.history.what-if
.
User: ""

Title: Re: FACT: Hitler OPPOSED Abortion (As a Good Christian Should) 29 Dec 2006 09:39:29 PM
Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

On 29 Dec 2006 15:06:41 -0800,

wrote:

Al Klein wrote:

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:31:27 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:


Including abortion of 'Jewish' pre-born human life?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1117728794.205506.167330%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com


Including Hitler's Christian stance on abortion

http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/talks/backlash.html

"In 1943 Hitler made abortion a crime punishable by death"

In which countries (or country)?
Do you grant that Hitler played a role in "compelling abortions on
Eastern workers"?
July 1947 indictment by Allies of SS Race and Settlement
Office leaders:
Kidnapping the children of foreign nationals in order to
select for Germanization those who were considered of
'racial value.'.... Encouraging and compelling abortions
on Eastern workers.... Preventing marriages and
hampering reproduction of enemy nationals.
Cited in
Black, Edwin. 2003. _War Against the Weak: Eugenics and America's
Campaign to Create a Master Race_ (NY: Four Walls Eight Windows),
550pp., 405.
.
User: "Yang, AthD h.c"

Title: Re: FACT: Hitler OPPOSED Abortion (As a Good Christian Should) 29 Dec 2006 10:20:34 PM
On 29 Dec 2006 19:39:29 -0800,
wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

On 29 Dec 2006 15:06:41 -0800,

wrote:

Al Klein wrote:

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:31:27 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:


Including abortion of 'Jewish' pre-born human life?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1117728794.205506.167330%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com


Including Hitler's Christian stance on abortion

http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/talks/backlash.html

"In 1943 Hitler made abortion a crime punishable by death"


In which countries (or country)?

Christian Germany. Why do you ask?

Do you grant that Hitler played a role in "compelling abortions on
Eastern workers"?

Of course, that's how you Christians handle those commie atheists
right?
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Title: Re: FACT: Hitler OPPOSED Abortion (As a Good Christian Should) 30 Dec 2006 07:36:33 AM
Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

On 29 Dec 2006 19:39:29 -0800,

wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

On 29 Dec 2006 15:06:41 -0800,

wrote:

Al Klein wrote:

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:31:27 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:


Including abortion of 'Jewish' pre-born human life?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1117728794.205506.167330%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com


Including Hitler's Christian stance on abortion

http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/talks/backlash.html

"In 1943 Hitler made abortion a crime punishable by death"


In which countries (or country)?


Christian Germany.

Did Hitler ever make "abortion a crime punishable by death" in
German-occupied:
Poland?
France?
Holland?
Russia?

Why do you ask?

I'm curious. Do you disagree with any of this Thyssen?:
Thyssen, Fritz. 1941. _I Paid Hitler_ (London: Hodder and Stoughton,
Ltd.), 319pp. Translated from the original French by Cesar
Saerchinger. On 234:
Practically all the young people forming part of
the SS have abjured Christianity. The same
applies to chiefs of the young Hitlerite
detachments. Many are followers of the new
German paganism and hold rituals in honour of
Wotan, the Sun, or Nature, the mother of all life,
if they do not formally worship Hitler.
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
become like famous mass-killer atheists, and have others worship you
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1152629227.581932.229990%40s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
a claim: Hitler was a Christian
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=1131389424.486586.51840%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
the Nazi Robert Ley was an atheism-adherent who worshiped Hitler and
Nature
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1143171898.121370.76730%40e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com
1942 Nazi atheism-adherent Martin Bormann: "National Socialist and
Christian Concepts are Incompatible"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1167155551.253465.117650%4048g2000cwx.googlegroups.com

Do you grant that Hitler played a role in "compelling abortions on
Eastern workers"?


Of course, that's how you Christians handle those commie atheists
right?

Pre-born human lives can't be "commie atheists."
In Germany, how did you Christians handle those Nazi atheists?
Gill, Anton. 1994. _An Honourable Defeat: A History of German
Resistance to Hitler, 1933-1945_ (NY: Henry Holt and Company), 293pp.
On 45:
It is a feature of the Resistance that many of its
members were, or became, devout Christians....
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
resistance to Hitler
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1146158953.142022.188680%40u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com
a review of some Nazis' beliefs
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1165948042.019875.94730%4080g2000cwy.googlegroups.com
.
User: "Yang, AthD h.c"

Title: Re: FACT: Hitler OPPOSED Abortion (As a Good Christian Should) 30 Dec 2006 09:32:34 AM
On 30 Dec 2006 05:36:33 -0800,
wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

On 29 Dec 2006 19:39:29 -0800,

wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

On 29 Dec 2006 15:06:41 -0800,

wrote:

Al Klein wrote:

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:31:27 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:


Including abortion of 'Jewish' pre-born human life?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1117728794.205506.167330%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com


Including Hitler's Christian stance on abortion

http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/talks/backlash.html

"In 1943 Hitler made abortion a crime punishable by death"


In which countries (or country)?


Christian Germany.


Did Hitler ever make "abortion a crime punishable by death" in
German-occupied:
Poland?
France?
Holland?
Russia?

Did Hitler ever make "abortion a crime punishable by death" in
GERMANY
Yes or No?
-----
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Title: Re: FACT: Hitler OPPOSED Abortion (As a Good Christian Should) 02 Jan 2007 08:14:44 AM
Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

On 30 Dec 2006 05:36:33 -0800,

wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

On 29 Dec 2006 19:39:29 -0800,

wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

On 29 Dec 2006 15:06:41 -0800,

wrote:

Al Klein wrote:

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:31:27 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:


Including abortion of 'Jewish' pre-born human life?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1117728794.205506.167330%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com


Including Hitler's Christian stance on abortion

http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/talks/backlash.html

"In 1943 Hitler made abortion a crime punishable by death"


In which countries (or country)?


Christian Germany.


Did Hitler ever make "abortion a crime punishable by death" in
German-occupied:
Poland?
France?
Holland?
Russia?


Did Hitler ever make "abortion a crime punishable by death" in

GERMANY

Yes or No?

Hitler didn't make "abortion a crime punishable by death" when
the abortions occurred on 'Jewish' pre-born human life.
From: "david ford" <dfo...@gl.umbc.edu>
Newsgroups: talk.origins,alt.atheism,alt.talk.creationism,talk.atheism
Subject: Mindreader Mitchell: Hitler was "anti-abortion"
Date: 9 Mar 2006 08:23:00 -0800
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Message-ID:
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Mindreader Mitchell Coffey wrote in "Re: Did Darwin have stomach
ailments?":

On 22 Feb 2006 david ford:

[snip]

Ok, so we have 500,000 new voters for the SD, the slightly significant
liberals and (one hopes few of these) the Commies. That's about 1.5%
of the voters. The secular, non-anti-Semitic parties were, combined,
getting something around 40% of the vote at the time, maybe a little
more, maybe a little less; but in any case, the additional 1.5% would
have only freaked out the ruling elites even more than otherwise,
inducing the Christian, anti-Semitic parties to circle the wagons just
like in real history, and ask that creepy, anti-Semitic,
anti-abortion, anti-Marxist, nationalist, pro-order, pro-military,
ex-Austrian to give it the college try.

I assume [MMC]"that creepy, anti-Semitic, anti-abortion, anti-Marxist,
nationalist, pro-order, pro-military, ex-Austrian" refers to Hitler.
Lurkers, I invite you to consider whether you agree with Mindreader
Mitchell that Hitler was [MMC]"anti-abortion."
Question: was Hitler [MMC]"anti-abortion" when it came to abortion of
pregnancies in non-'Aryan' women/ women of non-'German' 'blood'?
Proctor, Robert N. 1988. _Racial Hygiene: Medicine under the
Nazis_
(Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press), 414pp. On 123:
The key measure was a June 26, 1935, emendation
of the Sterilization Law, allowing abortions for
women already slated to be sterilized.^25 The
Nazis also made other exceptions. On November
10, 1938, a Luneberg court declared abortion legal
for Jews.^26 And in the spring and summer of
1943....
Henry, Clarissa and Marc Hillel. 1976. _Of Pure Blood_ (on the cover
is also: "The never before told story behind Hitler's secret program
to breed 'The Master Race'") (USA: McGraw-Hill Book Company), 256pp.
Translated by Eric Mossbacher from the 1975 French _Au Nom de la Race_.
On 177:
The Polish Red Cross estimate is more than 40000,
to which must be added an incalculable number of
enforced abortions ordered in the name of the purity
of German blood.
July 1947 indictment by Allies of SS Race and Settlement
Office leaders:
Kidnapping the children of foreign nationals in order to
select for Germanization those who were considered of
'racial value.'.... Encouraging and compelling abortions
on Eastern workers.... Preventing marriages and
hampering reproduction of enemy nationals.
Cited in
Black, Edwin. 2003. _War Against the Weak: Eugenics and America's
Campaign to Create a Master Race_ (NY: Four Walls Eight Windows),
550pp., 405.
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Hitler's actions make sense given his atheism and eugenic, social
Darwinist vision
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1134145559.645139.229550%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Multi-Pronged Role of Darwinian Thought in Shoah's Arrival
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132080322.482544.299440%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Darwin on selection of Spartan children
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135004225.246782.327080%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Hitler: "Mendelian Law Of Division"; "artificially hinders nature's
process of selection"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1140187785.048291.134400%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Critique of Roe v. Wade
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.95.961103170616.15767C-100000%40umbc10.umbc.edu
Is atheism [MMC]"associated with mass murderers and the like"?; views
of atheism-adherent Singer
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1141777876.224926.284110%40j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com
Haeckel and Buchner and a Darwinian a-moral climate
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1118315214.069039.280490%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com

There's a lot else wrong with your moronic theory, but if you want to
surprise everyone who knows you and actually defend your latest smear,
you get the next move.

.
User: "Yang, AthD h.c"

Title: Re: FACT: Hitler OPPOSED Abortion (As a Good Christian Should) 02 Jan 2007 09:37:28 AM
On 2 Jan 2007 06:14:44 -0800,
wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

On 30 Dec 2006 05:36:33 -0800,

wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

On 29 Dec 2006 19:39:29 -0800,

wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

On 29 Dec 2006 15:06:41 -0800,

wrote:

Al Klein wrote:

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:31:27 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:


Including abortion of 'Jewish' pre-born human life?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1117728794.205506.167330%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com


Including Hitler's Christian stance on abortion

http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/talks/backlash.html

"In 1943 Hitler made abortion a crime punishable by death"


In which countries (or country)?


Christian Germany.


Did Hitler ever make "abortion a crime punishable by death" in
German-occupied:
Poland?
France?
Holland?
Russia?


Did Hitler ever make "abortion a crime punishable by death" in

GERMANY

Yes or No?


Hitler didn't make "abortion a crime punishable by death" when
the abortions occurred on 'Jewish' pre-born human life.

Non sequitur.
Did Hitler ever make "abortion a crime punishable by death" in
GERMANY
Yes or No?
-----
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The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
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The Bush Iraq lie: -3002 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
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User: "ekrubmeg"

Title: Re: FACT: Hitler OPPOSED Abortion (As a Good Christian Should) 02 Jan 2007 05:17:12 PM
I think any man that can find god at the bottom of a beer bottle has
got my vote.
It is like this, and I've said it before. The Repubs found Bush at
the deep end of a cess pool under a rock, and that is pretty bad but
the Dems, not to be out dun, scraped the fungi of the feces of some
scum found under that same rock, to get somebody to run agains Bush.
Now I don't think a whole lot of Bush but there have been no attacks on
the US mainland since Bush took office. I don't suppose you remember
how many times we were attacked when ***** was in Office and I'm
counting the last hit on the towers because 99% of the planning was
done on his watch...

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The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
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User: "Yang, AthD h.c"

Title: Re: FACT: Hitler OPPOSED Abortion (As a Good Christian Should) 02 Jan 2007 11:31:50 PM
On 2 Jan 2007 15:17:12 -0800, "ekrubmeg" <ekrubmeg@yahoo.com> wrote:

I think any man that can find god at the bottom of a beer bottle has
got my vote.
It is like this, and I've said it before. The Repubs found Bush at
the deep end of a cess pool under a rock, and that is pretty bad but
the Dems, not to be out dun, scraped the fungi of the feces of some
scum found under that same rock, to get somebody to run agains Bush.
Now I don't think a whole lot of Bush but there have been no attacks on
the US mainland since Bush took office. I don't suppose you remember
how many times we were attacked when ***** was in Office and I'm
counting the last hit on the towers because 99% of the planning was
done on his watch...

How attacks occurred on US soil after the first WTC bombing during
Clinton's term?
ZERO.
Oops, looks like Clinton did the same thing as Bush's supopsed
achievment, without having to start a sham war that has cost us 3,000+
GIs and half a TRILLION bucks.

-----
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The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -3002 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting

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The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
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User: "bowman"

Title: Re: FACT: Hitler OPPOSED Abortion (As a Good Christian Should) 03 Jan 2007 09:10:13 AM
Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

Oops, looks like Clinton did the same thing as Bush's supopsed
achievment, without having to start a sham war that has cost us 3,000+
GIs and half a TRILLION bucks.

All he did was destroy the Al-Shifa factory and stir the pot in Sudan. That
war hasn't cost the US anything -- yet. Or perhaps it has.
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User: "Yang, AthD h.c"

Title: Re: FACT: Hitler OPPOSED Abortion (As a Good Christian Should) 03 Jan 2007 10:17:59 AM
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 08:10:13 -0700, bowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

Oops, looks like Clinton did the same thing as Bush's supopsed
achievment, without having to start a sham war that has cost us 3,000+
GIs and half a TRILLION bucks.


All he did was destroy the Al-Shifa factory and stir the pot in Sudan. That
war hasn't cost the US anything -- yet. Or perhaps it has.

And all Bush does is stir the pot in Iraq.
Oh BTW, when are you signing up for teh tour, little chickenhawk?
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User: "bowman"

Title: Re: FACT: Hitler OPPOSED Abortion (As a Good Christian Should) 03 Jan 2007 09:09:26 PM
Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

Oh BTW, when are you signing up for teh tour, little chickenhawk?

Obviously, you have me confused with some one else. I signed up for another
fucked up tour about four decades ago that left me with a certain distaste
for presidents with imperial ambitions, be they Democrats, Republicans, or
whatever else the flavor of the week is. LBJ, WJC, GWB, all the same same.
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Title: Re: FACT: Hitler OPPOSED Abortion (As a Good Christian Should) 04 Jan 2007 12:49:11 AM
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 20:09:26 -0700, bowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

Oh BTW, when are you signing up for teh tour, little chickenhawk?


Obviously, you have me confused with some one else. I signed up for another
fucked up tour about four decades ago that left me with a certain distaste
for presidents with imperial ambitions, be they Democrats, Republicans, or
whatever else the flavor of the week is. LBJ, WJC, GWB, all the same same.

Obviously you are correct.
My deepest apologies.
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User: "Mike"

Title: Re: FACT: Hitler OPPOSED Abortion (As a Good Christian Should) 03 Jan 2007 07:39:52 AM
ekrubmeg wrote:

I think any man that can find god at the bottom of a beer bottle has
got my vote.
It is like this, and I've said it before. The Repubs found Bush at
the deep end of a cess pool under a rock, and that is pretty bad but
the Dems, not to be out dun, scraped the fungi of the feces of some
scum found under that same rock, to get somebody to run agains Bush.
Now I don't think a whole lot of Bush but there have been no attacks on
the US mainland since Bush took office. I don't suppose you remember
how many times we were attacked when ***** was in Office and I'm
counting the last hit on the towers because 99% of the planning was
done on his watch...

We had major terrorist attacks twice TOTAL by outsiders (the Oklahoma
bombing wasn't any major conspiracy with a lot of planning that could
have been found out about in advance by any reasonable intelligence
agency nor was it a foreign terrorist act.) Hardly enough to draw any
kind of a statistical analysis out of. And if you're going to blame the
second attack on Clinton because it happened shortly AFTER his
presidency, then we should blame 1993 on Bush I, since it happened
shortly after HIS presidency and the planning would have happened during
that (in fact, it happened only around a month after Clinton was sworn in.)
So that makes it Bush, Sr.:1 and Clinton:1. And your point is?
.


User: ""

Title: Re: FACT: Hitler OPPOSED Abortion (As a Good Christian Should) 02 Jan 2007 07:57:42 PM
Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

On 2 Jan 2007 06:14:44 -0800,

wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

On 30 Dec 2006 05:36:33 -0800,

wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

On 29 Dec 2006 19:39:29 -0800,

wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

On 29 Dec 2006 15:06:41 -0800,

wrote:

Al Klein wrote:

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:31:27 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:


Including abortion of 'Jewish' pre-born human life?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1117728794.205506.167330%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com


Including Hitler's Christian stance on abortion

http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/talks/backlash.html

"In 1943 Hitler made abortion a crime punishable by death"


In which countries (or country)?


Christian Germany.


Did Hitler ever make "abortion a crime punishable by death" in
German-occupied:
Poland?
France?
Holland?
Russia?


Did Hitler ever make "abortion a crime punishable by death" in

GERMANY

Yes or No?


Hitler didn't make "abortion a crime punishable by death" when
the abortions occurred on 'Jewish' pre-born human life.


Non sequitur.

Did Hitler ever make "abortion a crime punishable by death" in
GERMANY

Yes or No?

"Abortion" of who-- 'Aryans'?
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
1864 Huxley on lower and higher races, and the Aryan
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1142351559.965395.318780%40v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com
Huxley on The Aryan Question
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1141703715.940457.279720%40i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com
[1871/ 74 Darwin]"Europeans and Hindoos... belong to the same Aryan
stock.... Jews... belong to the Semitic stock"
[1872 Darwin]"Blushing is evident in all the Aryan nations of
Europe.... The
Semitic races blush freely, as might have been expected, from their
general similitude to the Aryans."
[Darwin]"Dr. Saviotti in... 1871... remarks that it more frequently
occurs in prognathous skulls, not of the Aryan race, than in others"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132942108.117285.130610%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com
Goebbels diary entry for 13 May 1943
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1120450591.444214.186670%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
One might well ask why are there any Jews in the world order?
That would be exactly like asking why are there potato bugs?
Nature is dominated by the law of struggle. There will always
be parasites who will spur this struggle on and intensify the
process of selection between the strong and the weak. The
principle of struggle dominates also in human life. One must
merely know the laws of this struggle to be able to face it. ....
In nature life always takes measures against parasites; in the life
of nations that is not always the case. From this fact the Jewish
peril actually stems. There is therefore no other recourse left
for modern nations except to exterminate the Jew....
....we are forever members of the Aryan race. .... Aboriginal
man, the Fuehrer believes, did not know the lie....
The nations that have been the first to see through the Jew and
have been the first to fight him are going to take his place in the
domination of the world.
Multi-Pronged Role of Darwinian Thought in Shoah's Arrival
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132080322.482544.299440%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
1859 Darwin vs. the Judeo-Christian conception of the unity of man
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1120016676.023811.113660%40g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
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User: "Yang, AthD h.c"

Title: Re: FACT: Hitler OPPOSED Abortion (As a Good Christian Should) 02 Jan 2007 11:32:37 PM
On 2 Jan 2007 17:57:42 -0800,
wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

On 2 Jan 2007 06:14:44 -0800,

wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

On 30 Dec 2006 05:36:33 -0800,

wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

On 29 Dec 2006 19:39:29 -0800,

wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

On 29 Dec 2006 15:06:41 -0800,

wrote:

Al Klein wrote:

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:31:27 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:


Including abortion of 'Jewish' pre-born human life?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1117728794.205506.167330%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com


Including Hitler's Christian stance on abortion

http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/talks/backlash.html

"In 1943 Hitler made abortion a crime punishable by death"


In which countries (or country)?


Christian Germany.


Did Hitler ever make "abortion a crime punishable by death" in
German-occupied:
Poland?
France?
Holland?
Russia?


Did Hitler ever make "abortion a crime punishable by death" in

GERMANY

Yes or No?


Hitler didn't make "abortion a crime punishable by death" when
the abortions occurred on 'Jewish' pre-born human life.


Non sequitur.

Did Hitler ever make "abortion a crime punishable by death" in
GERMANY

Yes or No?


"Abortion" of who-- 'Aryans'?

Oh look, little dishonest Christian David Ford dodging the question
again.
Did Hitler ever make "abortion a crime punishable by death" in
GERMANY?
Yes or No?
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Yang
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a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
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The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
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Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
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User: ""

Title: Re: FACT: Hitler OPPOSED Abortion (As a Good Christian Should) 03 Jan 2007 08:36:56 AM
Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

On 29 Dec 2006 19:39:29 -0800,

wrote:

Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

On 29 Dec 2006 15:06:41 -0800,

wrote:

Al Klein wrote:

On Fri, 29 Dec 2006 10:31:27 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c)"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:


Including abortion of 'Jewish' pre-born human life?
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1117728794.205506.167330%40o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com


Including Hitler's Christian stance on abortion

http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/talks/backlash.html

"In 1943 Hitler made abortion a crime punishable by death"


In which countries (or country)?


Christian Germany. Why do you ask?

Do you grant that Hitler played a role in "compelling abortions on
Eastern workers"?


Of course, that's how you Christians handle those commie atheists
right?

My reply is in
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=1167485793.429656.279660%40a3g2000cwd.googlegroups.com
aka
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/msg/95e9ed713cb462f2?dmode=source&hl=en
BTW, atheism-adherent Stalin opposed abortion.
.
User: "Yang, AthD h.c"

Title: Re: FACT: Hitler OPPOSED Abortion (As a Good Christian Should) 03 Jan 2007 10:16:44 AM
On 3 Jan 2007 06:36:56 -0800,
wrote:

BTW, atheism-adherent Stalin opposed abortion.

Non-sequitur. It does not affect that fact that Christian Adolf Hitler
opposed abortion as well.
-----
Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
The Bush 'balanced' budget: -2 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12.5 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -3002 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
newsgroups Yang promises not to revenge post
in response to Sound-of-Trumpet's *****:
rec.art.scifi.written
sci.archaeology
soc.history.what-if
.







User: ""

Title: Re: FACT: Hitler OPPOSED Abortion (As a Good Christian Should) 29 Dec 2006 01:44:46 PM
Yang, AthD (h.c) wrote:

Who could be a better Christian than pro-life Adolf Hitler?

http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/talks/backlash.html

"In 1943 Hitler made abortion a crime punishable by death"

Mindreader Mitchell: Hitler was "anti-abortion"
From: "david ford" <dfo...@gl.umbc.edu>
Newsgroups: talk.origins,alt.atheism,alt.talk.creationism,talk.atheism
Subject: Mindreader Mitchell: Hitler was "anti-abortion"
Date: 9 Mar 2006 08:23:00 -0800
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Message-ID:
<dford3-1141921380.312364.144060@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Mindreader Mitchell Coffey wrote in "Re: Did Darwin have stomach
ailments?":

On 22 Feb 2006 david ford:

[snip]

Ok, so we have 500,000 new voters for the SD, the slightly significant
liberals and (one hopes few of these) the Commies. That's about 1.5%
of the voters. The secular, non-anti-Semitic parties were, combined,
getting something around 40% of the vote at the time, maybe a little
more, maybe a little less; but in any case, the additional 1.5% would
have only freaked out the ruling elites even more than otherwise,
inducing the Christian, anti-Semitic parties to circle the wagons just
like in real history, and ask that creepy, anti-Semitic,
anti-abortion, anti-Marxist, nationalist, pro-order, pro-military,
ex-Austrian to give it the college try.

I assume [MMC]"that creepy, anti-Semitic, anti-abortion, anti-Marxist,
nationalist, pro-order, pro-military, ex-Austrian" refers to Hitler.
Lurkers, I invite you to consider whether you agree with Mindreader
Mitchell that Hitler was [MMC]"anti-abortion."
Question: was Hitler [MMC]"anti-abortion" when it came to abortion of
pregnancies in non-'Aryan' women/ women of non-'German' 'blood'?
Proctor, Robert N. 1988. _Racial Hygiene: Medicine under the
Nazis_
(Cambridge, MA: Harvard University Press), 414pp. On 123:
The key measure was a June 26, 1935, emendation
of the Sterilization Law, allowing abortions for
women already slated to be sterilized.^25 The
Nazis also made other exceptions. On November
10, 1938, a Luneberg court declared abortion legal
for Jews.^26 And in the spring and summer of
1943....
Henry, Clarissa and Marc Hillel. 1976. _Of Pure Blood_ (on the cover
is also: "The never before told story behind Hitler's secret program
to breed 'The Master Race'") (USA: McGraw-Hill Book Company), 256pp.
Translated by Eric Mossbacher from the 1975 French _Au Nom de la Race_.
On 177:
The Polish Red Cross estimate is more than 40000,
to which must be added an incalculable number of
enforced abortions ordered in the name of the purity
of German blood.
July 1947 indictment by Allies of SS Race and Settlement
Office leaders:
Kidnapping the children of foreign nationals in order to
select for Germanization those who were considered of
'racial value.'.... Encouraging and compelling abortions
on Eastern workers.... Preventing marriages and
hampering reproduction of enemy nationals.
Cited in
Black, Edwin. 2003. _War Against the Weak: Eugenics and America's
Campaign to Create a Master Race_ (NY: Four Walls Eight Windows),
550pp., 405.
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Hitler's actions make sense given his atheism and eugenic, social
Darwinist vision
http://groups.google.co.in/groups?selm=dford3-1134145559.645139.229550%40f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com
Multi-Pronged Role of Darwinian Thought in Shoah's Arrival
http://www.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1132080322.482544.299440%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Darwin on selection of Spartan children
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1135004225.246782.327080%40g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Hitler: "Mendelian Law Of Division"; "artificially hinders nature's
process of selection"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1140187785.048291.134400%40g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com
Critique of Roe v. Wade
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=Pine.SGI.3.95.961103170616.15767C-100000%40umbc10.umbc.edu
Is atheism [MMC]"associated with mass murderers and the like"?; views
of atheism-adherent Singer
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1141777876.224926.284110%40j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com
Haeckel and Buchner and a Darwinian a-moral climate
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=dford3-1118315214.069039.280490%40z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com

There's a lot else wrong with your moronic theory, but if you want to
surprise everyone who knows you and actually defend your latest smear,
you get the next move.

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