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03 Jun 2004 04:26:23 PM |
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Family Research Council's latest "Research Conclusions" |
June 3, 2004
Bush Campaign Courting People of Faith
There is news today that President Bush's re-election campaign is seeking to
motivate churchgoers to support the President this fall. This comes as a new
poll by USA Today shows that people who attend church regularly are
overwhelmingly more likely to vote for a Republican than a Democrat. Critics
of the President have slammed his campaign's effort, saying that it will
meld politics and religion together. I don't seem to remember them raising a
fuss when Al Gore spoke in heavily Democratic churches back in 2000, but
that's beside the point.
The fact is religious Americans have as much a right to participate in the
political process as any other group. And having just spoken via satellite
to members of over 500 churches and listeners on 1,500 radio stations during
FRC's "Battle for Marriage" simulcast, I know that there is one issue that
will energize the Christian community unlike any other, reaching across
ethnic and racial lines: the sanctity of marriage. Christians throughout the
country are beginning to realize that the same-sex weddings being performed
right now in Massachusetts will spread to the rest of the nation.
In a nation that is politically polarized there is not another issue that
finds such overwhelming support among Americans. Those church-going
Americans, who are concerned about what same-sex "marriage" will do to our
nation, will respond in one of two ways. If there is clear, unequivocal
political leadership that says "follow me - we'll protect marriage" they
will turnout to vote in record numbers. If on the other hand political
leaders avoid the topic, I am afraid that paralysis brought on by fear will
cause those voters to hunker down in their churches and give up on the
political process. We must not let that happen.
Bishop in Hot Water for Holding Politicians Accountable
In the ongoing attempt to silence churches from speaking out on public
matters, the small but loud shop of Americans United for the Separation of
Church and State has called on the IRS to investigate the Catholic diocese
of Colorado Springs because of a pastoral letter sent last month by its
bishop, Bishop Michael Sheridan. The letter defines abortion, embryonic stem
cell research, euthanasia, and same-sex "marriage" as "intrinsically evil"
and says that a Catholic cannot be in full communion with the Church and
support these issues.
Americans United is bullying Bishop Sheridan and other churches across the
country - threatening to have their tax-exempt status revoked - in the hope
of removing any foundation of morality or faith from the public square. This
is shameless. Pastors have a right and a duty to speak to issues of morals,
and all of us must pray that our church leaders will not be intimidated into
silence but will be strengthened by the Holy Spirit and speak with a strong
voice on matters of public morality.
Cloning Ban Passed in Louisiana
Congratulations are in order for the hard working pro-lifers in my home
state of Louisiana, led by my former colleagues Rep. Gary Beard and Sen. Art
Lentini. By an overwhelming vote of 97-2 the House of Representatives passed
a ban on human cloning for reproduction and so-called "research." Thanks to
an outpouring of citizen concern this is a duplicate of a complete ban that
was passed by their Senate a couple of weeks ago. The Governor pledged to
sign a complete ban on human cloning during her campaign and we expect that
she will honor her commitment. To contact the Governor, click on the link
provided below.
Additional Resources
Congressional Directory
http://www.frc.org/index.cfm?i=PG03G34&f=WU04F03&t=e
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| User: "Dennis Kemmerer" |
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03 Jun 2004 05:56:11 PM |
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<tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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June 3, 2004
Bush Campaign Courting People of Faith
At least the FRC is finally admitting that Bush is pandering to the
religious right.
[snip religious babble]
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: Family Research Council's latest "Research Conclusions" |
03 Jun 2004 09:41:08 PM |
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"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote in message
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June 3, 2004
Bush Campaign Courting People of Faith
At least the FRC is finally admitting that Bush is pandering to the
religious right.
[snip religious babble]
You just call that pandering. What Mr. Bush is doing is illegal and
could very well end up with any church that goes along with him
losing its tax exemption. I can believe that Bush is this stupid.
(That isn't a typo.)
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| User: "SuzyQinDallas" |
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| Title: Re: Family Research Council's latest "Research Conclusions" |
04 Jun 2004 02:09:19 PM |
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
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"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote in message
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<tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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June 3, 2004
Bush Campaign Courting People of Faith
At least the FRC is finally admitting that Bush is pandering to the
religious right.
[snip religious babble]
You just call that pandering. What Mr. Bush is doing is illegal and
could very well end up with any church that goes along with him
losing its tax exemption. I can believe that Bush is this stupid.
(That isn't a typo.)
SOME PEOPLE THINK ONLY ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE ACLU AND GAY LOBBY
HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THERE POLITICAL VIEWS. WELL
CHURCH'S HAVE THEIR RIGHT TO EXPRESS THERE POLITICAL VIEWS. THIS IS
GOING TO BE CLARIFIED WITH THE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT.
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: Family Research Council's latest "Research Conclusions" |
05 Jun 2004 05:02:56 AM |
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"SuzyQinDallas" <suzyqindal@aol.com> wrote in message
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
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"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote in message
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<tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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June 3, 2004
Bush Campaign Courting People of Faith
At least the FRC is finally admitting that Bush is pandering to the
religious right.
[snip religious babble]
You just call that pandering. What Mr. Bush is doing is illegal and
could very well end up with any church that goes along with him
losing its tax exemption. I can believe that Bush is this stupid.
(That isn't a typo.)
SOME PEOPLE THINK ONLY ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE ACLU AND GAY LOBBY
HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THERE POLITICAL VIEWS. WELL
CHURCH'S HAVE THEIR RIGHT TO EXPRESS THERE POLITICAL VIEWS. THIS IS
GOING TO BE CLARIFIED WITH THE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT.
Guess again, Tootsie. Such a law would not make it, since it
is obviouly unConstitutional, no matter how misleading its
name is.
Please don't shout. It makes you look like a loon. Also, please
learn how to spell and punctuate properly.
Then, again, don't bother, since you are obviously a troll. You
give this away through the choice of words you misspell, the
words that you spell correctly AND THE SHOUTING.
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| User: "Another Apostate" |
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| Title: Re: Family Research Council's latest "Research Conclusions" |
04 Jun 2004 02:23:20 PM |
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"SuzyQinDallas" <suzyqindal@aol.com> wrote in message
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
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"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote in message
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<tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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June 3, 2004
Bush Campaign Courting People of Faith
At least the FRC is finally admitting that Bush is pandering to the
religious right.
[snip religious babble]
You just call that pandering. What Mr. Bush is doing is illegal and
could very well end up with any church that goes along with him
losing its tax exemption. I can believe that Bush is this stupid.
(That isn't a typo.)
SOME PEOPLE THINK ONLY ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE ACLU AND GAY LOBBY
HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THERE POLITICAL VIEWS. WELL
CHURCH'S HAVE THEIR RIGHT TO EXPRESS THERE POLITICAL VIEWS. THIS IS
GOING TO BE CLARIFIED WITH THE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT.
And we should consider the opinion of someone who can't turn off the caps
lock because....?
--
Another Apostate
A.A. #2182
EAC Director of Covert Operations and Black Helicopter Pilot
"If you are ethical only because you believe in God, you are buying your
ticket to heaven or trying to tear up your ticket to hell. In either case,
you are just being a shrewd profiteer, nothing else. The idea of being
ethical is to be ethical for no reason except that that is the way to be if
you want the world to run smoothly. I think that people who say virtue is
its own reward or honesty is the best policy have the right idea."
-Isaac Asimov
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| User: "Dennis Kemmerer" |
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| Title: Re: Family Research Council's latest "Research Conclusions" |
04 Jun 2004 02:21:34 PM |
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"SuzyQinDallas" <suzyqindal@aol.com> wrote in message
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
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"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote in message
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<tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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June 3, 2004
Bush Campaign Courting People of Faith
At least the FRC is finally admitting that Bush is pandering to the
religious right.
[snip religious babble]
You just call that pandering. What Mr. Bush is doing is illegal and
could very well end up with any church that goes along with him
losing its tax exemption. I can believe that Bush is this stupid.
(That isn't a typo.)
SOME PEOPLE THINK ONLY ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE ACLU AND GAY LOBBY
HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THERE POLITICAL VIEWS.
Oh, not at all! We all _love_ when knuckle-dragging morons like you express
there [sic] views. Or did you perhaps mean 'them there views?'
WELL
CHURCH'S HAVE THEIR RIGHT TO EXPRESS THERE POLITICAL VIEWS.
Their tax-exempt status does indeed restrict their political activities.
THIS IS
GOING TO BE CLARIFIED WITH THE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT.
'Religious Freedom Restoration Act?' Is that like the FMA? Or just another
'faith-based initiative' that's got a fart's chance in a windstorm.
P.S. 'Churches' is plural; 'Church's' is possessive.
P.P.S. The Caps Lock key is on the left-hand side of your keyboard.
P.P.S. You're a stupid twat.
[plonk]
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| User: "Poster Boy" |
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| Title: Re: Family Research Council's latest "Research Conclusions" |
04 Jun 2004 02:41:42 PM |
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On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:09:19 GMT, SuzyQinDallas <suzyqindal@aol.com>
wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
news:I_udnXxyGdrffCLdRVn-uA@comcast.com:
"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote in message
news:2i9on9Fkrt4kU1@uni-berlin.de...
<tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:3IMvc.2568$__5.1162@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com...
June 3, 2004
Bush Campaign Courting People of Faith
At least the FRC is finally admitting that Bush is pandering to the
religious right.
[snip religious babble]
You just call that pandering. What Mr. Bush is doing is illegal and
could very well end up with any church that goes along with him
losing its tax exemption. I can believe that Bush is this stupid.
(That isn't a typo.)
SOME PEOPLE THINK ONLY ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE ACLU AND GAY LOBBY
HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THERE POLITICAL VIEWS. WELL
CHURCH'S HAVE THEIR RIGHT TO EXPRESS THERE POLITICAL VIEWS. THIS IS
GOING TO BE CLARIFIED WITH THE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT.
Good. Then they can kiss off their tax exempt status.
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| User: "SkArcher" |
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| Title: Re: Family Research Council's latest "Research Conclusions" |
04 Jun 2004 02:27:58 PM |
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On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 19:09:19 GMT, SuzyQinDallas <suzyqindal@aol.com> wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
news:I_udnXxyGdrffCLdRVn-uA@comcast.com:
"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote in message
news:2i9on9Fkrt4kU1@uni-berlin.de...
<tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:3IMvc.2568$__5.1162@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com...
June 3, 2004
Bush Campaign Courting People of Faith
At least the FRC is finally admitting that Bush is pandering to the
religious right.
[snip religious babble]
You just call that pandering. What Mr. Bush is doing is illegal and
could very well end up with any church that goes along with him
losing its tax exemption. I can believe that Bush is this stupid.
(That isn't a typo.)
SOME PEOPLE THINK ONLY ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE ACLU AND GAY LOBBY
HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THERE POLITICAL VIEWS. WELL
CHURCH'S HAVE THEIR RIGHT TO EXPRESS THERE POLITICAL VIEWS. THIS IS
GOING TO BE CLARIFIED WITH THE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT.
Wow, you know your all caps, poorly gramaticised ranting has really
convinced me of the validity of your viewpoint and seriously made me
consider the virtues of the opposing opinion in a sensible, reasoned and
frankly ecumenical exchance of ideological honesty. Perhaps you should
take the time to further enlighten us with your sparkling wit and dazzling
intelect? I'm sure all of us would benefit from the experiences and
outlook of such a insensate, myopic cretin as your caustic self.
*plonk*
--
SkArcher - A.A#590
Passion is inversely proportional to the amount of real information
available. - Benford's law of controversy.
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| User: "Citizen" |
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| Title: Re: Family Research Council's latest "Research Conclusions" |
05 Jun 2004 06:44:19 AM |
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SuzyQinDallas wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in
news:I_udnXxyGdrffCLdRVn-uA@comcast.com:
"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote in message
news:2i9on9Fkrt4kU1@uni-berlin.de...
<tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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June 3, 2004
Bush Campaign Courting People of Faith
At least the FRC is finally admitting that Bush is pandering to the
religious right.
[snip religious babble]
You just call that pandering. What Mr. Bush is doing is illegal and
could very well end up with any church that goes along with him
losing its tax exemption. I can believe that Bush is this stupid.
(That isn't a typo.)
SOME PEOPLE THINK ONLY ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE ACLU AND GAY LOBBY
HAVE THE RIGHT TO EXPRESS THERE POLITICAL VIEWS. WELL
CHURCH'S HAVE THEIR RIGHT TO EXPRESS THERE POLITICAL VIEWS. THIS IS
GOING TO BE CLARIFIED WITH THE RELIGIOUS FREEDOM RESTORATION ACT.
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Who's sock puppet are you? Or are you reallllyyyyy young ? If so, you
should probably get yourself some education before you get sheared like
the rest of the stupid sheep.
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| User: "Lew S. Wheel" |
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| Title: Re: Family Research Council's latest "Research Conclusions" |
07 Jun 2004 08:34:07 AM |
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"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:I_udnXxyGdrffCLdRVn-uA@comcast.com...
You just call that pandering. What Mr. Bush is doing is illegal and
could very well end up with any church that goes along with him
losing its tax exemption.
You forget that Bush does what he wants and if the rules don't support it
the rules can be changed. How long do you think it will take if
"faith-based initiaves" are instituted before the first reports of
discrimination in their administration surface?
There are 11 churches within walking distance from my location, including
one huge one that just went up, and that is just one section of a relatively
small city. If they were paying into the city's coffers perhaps the city
wouldn't feel the need to increase taxes by deciding that everyone's home
values had suddenly doubled. They get to make policy and determine local
television and if they are a "majority", so be it, but not on my dime...
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| User: "Matty" |
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08 Jun 2004 04:47:24 AM |
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Lew S. Wheel wrote:
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:I_udnXxyGdrffCLdRVn-uA@comcast.com...
You just call that pandering. What Mr. Bush is doing is illegal and
could very well end up with any church that goes along with him
losing its tax exemption.
You forget that Bush does what he wants and if the rules don't support it
the rules can be changed. How long do you think it will take if
"faith-based initiaves" are instituted before the first reports of
discrimination in their administration surface?
There are 11 churches within walking distance from my location, including
one huge one that just went up, and that is just one section of a relatively
small city. If they were paying into the city's coffers perhaps the city
wouldn't feel the need to increase taxes by deciding that everyone's home
values had suddenly doubled. They get to make policy and determine local
television and if they are a "majority", so be it, but not on my dime...
Its interesting, however, how willing these followers are willing to hand over
their cash to their church, and yet they walk off and whine about how much
they're taxed, how how much things cost.
Maybe these brain surgeons stopped wasting their money pumping cash into
churches simply so that a bigger church can be built, and instead redirect
that money to something more important.
Matty
--
My blog: http://kaiwai.blogspot.com/
Using a mouse in unix? That's heresy.
"Was there any truth in the rumour that you were
dead?" - Norman; The Great Australian Bleeder
"You don't have to live next to me, Just give me my
equality" - Nina Simone (Mississippi *****)
"Science without religion is lame, religion without
science is blind." - Albert Einstein
"You don't need to be 'straight' to fight and die
for your country. You just need to
shoot straight." - Barry Goldwater, (Ret. AF general)
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| User: "Kermit" |
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| Title: Re: Family Research Council's latest "Research Conclusions" |
03 Jun 2004 10:34:32 PM |
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"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote in message news:<2i9on9Fkrt4kU1@uni-berlin.de>...
<tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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June 3, 2004
Bush Campaign Courting People of Faith
At least the FRC is finally admitting that Bush is pandering to the
religious right.
[snip religious babble]
Face it. If gays are allowed to marry, I'll have to divorce my wife,
disown my daughter, and defenestrate the cat. Compared to family
stability, what are minor inconveniences like turning the US into a
world pariah, breaking treaties, war crimes, unnecessary wars, outing
US agents, establishing energy policy with the help of criminal CEOs,
giving up the hunt for bin Ladin, unfunded state mandates, and other
political distractions?
Kermit
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| User: "Citizen" |
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| Title: Re: Family Research Council's latest "Research Conclusions" |
04 Jun 2004 10:44:56 AM |
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Kermit wrote:
"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote in message news:<2i9on9Fkrt4kU1@uni-berlin.de>...
<tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:3IMvc.2568$__5.1162@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com...
June 3, 2004
Bush Campaign Courting People of Faith
At least the FRC is finally admitting that Bush is pandering to the
religious right.
[snip religious babble]
Face it. If gays are allowed to marry, I'll have to divorce my wife,
disown my daughter, and defenestrate the cat. Compared to family
stability, what are minor inconveniences like turning the US into a
world pariah, breaking treaties, war crimes, unnecessary wars, outing
US agents, establishing energy policy with the help of criminal CEOs,
giving up the hunt for bin Ladin, unfunded state mandates, and other
political distractions?
Kermit
defenestrate : a throwing of a person or thing out of a window
Merium-Webster Dictionary
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| User: "Christopher A. Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Family Research Council's latest "Research Conclusions" |
04 Jun 2004 11:41:25 AM |
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On Fri, 04 Jun 2004 15:44:56 GMT, Citizen <assimilation66@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Kermit wrote:
"Dennis Kemmerer" <dk@suespammers.org> wrote in message news:<2i9on9Fkrt4kU1@uni-berlin.de>...
<tock@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:3IMvc.2568$__5.1162@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com...
June 3, 2004
Bush Campaign Courting People of Faith
At least the FRC is finally admitting that Bush is pandering to the
religious right.
[snip religious babble]
Face it. If gays are allowed to marry, I'll have to divorce my wife,
disown my daughter, and defenestrate the cat. Compared to family
stability, what are minor inconveniences like turning the US into a
world pariah, breaking treaties, war crimes, unnecessary wars, outing
US agents, establishing energy policy with the help of criminal CEOs,
giving up the hunt for bin Ladin, unfunded state mandates, and other
political distractions?
Kermit
defenestrate : a throwing of a person or thing out of a window
Merium-Webster Dictionary
One of the major events of the Reformation - the defestration of
Prague, when the Papal emissaries were thrown out of the window.
The other one that sticks in the mind was the Diet of Worms.
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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| Title: Re: Family Research Council's latest "Research Conclusions" |
03 Jun 2004 10:06:15 PM |
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wrote:
Bush Campaign Courting People of Faith
Hmm... Bush is courting men, *and* women other than his wife!
Perverse!
--
The danger for what the press derisively calls the 'Religious Right' is that they are making the same mistakes the religious left made. To solve the moral problems of the nation they are looking to government rather than the Creator of their faith and His strategies.
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