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"loose cannon" |
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19 Jun 2005 04:36:11 AM |
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Fatherless in America... |
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/markalexander/ma20050617.shtml
Fatherless in America...
by Mark Alexander
Many families will celebrate Father's Day this Sunday, but the tragic
reality is that some 35-million children live absent or apart from
their biological fathers. One in two children -- and only one in five
inner-city children -- are in homes with their fathers.
Of course, any assertion that fathers are critical to the well-being of
children will undoubtedly offend the PC NOW crowd -- you know, those
enlightened liberals who have, for the past four decades, insisted that
mothers can do it all. Indeed, they've dismissed men as little more
than a nuisance -- one necessary for procreation but detrimental to
proper parenting.
The Grande Dame of the so-called "women's movement," Gloria Steinem,
once declared, "A woman without a man is like a fish without a
bicycle." Liberal columnist Maureen Dowd's forthcoming book, "Are Men
Necessary?" is the latest manifestation of the man-hater movement.
Of course, many moms have no choice but to do it all because many
fathers (in and out of their homes) have abdicated their responsibility
for proper love, discipline, support and protection. The disastrous
social consequences of this abdication are clearly evident and well
documented. Though some single parents do manage to bring up relatively
well-adjusted kids with the help of extended families, churches and
schools, the correlation between social deviancy and fatherless homes
is irrefutably linked.
Not all fathers are separated from their children voluntarily -- many
are forcibly removed by mothers who've bought into the lie that fathers
aren't necessary. Of course, there are also mothers who just want to
upgrade. Under such circumstances, most state courts provide fathers
limited responsibility or visitation with their children, and only now
are some states acknowledging the critical role fathers play in the
lives of their children.
Here is the truth -- and it is a hard truth for men who have abandoned
their families, but a harder truth for their children: Most social
problems -- crime, drug abuse, unwed pregnancy and abortion, youth
suicide, school dropouts and the like -- are the direct consequence of
fatherless households.
"Children who grow up with their fathers do far better -- emotionally,
educationally, physically, every way we can measure -- than children
who do not," notes Institute for American Values president David
Blankenhorn. "This conclusion holds true even when differences of race,
class and income are taken into account. The simple truth is that
fathers are irreplaceable in shaping the competence and character of
their children. ... [The absence of fathers] from family life is surely
the most socially consequential family trend of our era."
Indeed it is.
Here are some sobering statistics: According to the CDC, DoJ, DHHS and
the Bureau of the Census, 63% of teen suicides, 70% of juveniles in
state-operated institutions, 71% of high-school dropouts, 75% of
children in chemical-abuse centers, 80% of rapists, 85% of youths in
prison, 85% of children who exhibit behavioral disorders, and 90% of
homeless and runaway children are children from fatherless homes. In
fact, children born to unwed mothers are ten times more likely to live
in poverty as children with fathers in the home.
"[The causal link between fatherless children and crime] is so strong
that controlling for family configuration erases the relationship
between race and crime and between low income and crime," notes social
researcher Barbara Dafoe Whitehead. More to the point, a counselor at a
juvenile-detention facility in California, which has the nation's
highest juvenile-incarceration rate, protested, "[If] you find a gang
member who comes from a complete nuclear family, I'd like to meet him.
.... I don't think that kid exists."
"Maturity does not come with age, but with the accepting of
responsibility for one's actions," writes Dr. Edwin Cole. "The lack of
effective, functioning fathers is the root cause of America's social,
economic and spiritual crises."
History also records the exploits of those who grew up without fathers,
or with weak or abusive fathers. They became Adolf Hitler, Iosif
Vissarionouich Djugashvili (Joseph Stalin), Mao Zedong and Saddam
Hussein.
In any case, never let it be said that the Left allows facts to get in
the way of its agenda. Arguably, liberal social policies are directly
responsible for generations of homeless children, particularly black
children. As we've noted before, Democrats have a vested interest in
keeping blacks and other constituencies dependent on the state; such a
dependency, after all, creates a strong allegiance.
The man-hating Left is not content merely to eradicate the traditional
family. They also want to eradicate Judeo-Christian values from the
home. Take NOW's website, for example, which proclaims, "Underneath the
facade of Christian religion are the workings of the radical religious
right, mobilizing men against the rights of women, lesbians, and gays."
The University of Virginia's Bradford Wilcox notes in a recent Heritage
Foundation report that the Left sees religion as "a key factor in
stalling the gender revolution at home."
Is this agenda what generations of Americans have toiled and died to
preserve?
Founder John Adams understood well: "The foundation of national
morality must be laid in private families.... How is it possible that
Children can have any just Sense of the sacred Obligations of Morality
or Religion if, from their earliest Infancy, they learn their Mothers
live in habitual Infidelity to their fathers, and their fathers in as
constant Infidelity to their Mothers?" Abigail Adams wrote, "What is it
that affectionate parents require of their Children; for all their
care, anxiety, and toil on their accounts? Only that they would be wise
and virtuous, Benevolent and kind."
So where to from here?
On Father's Day, we should, indeed, pay tribute to the irreplaceable
institution of fatherhood -- and the importance of a father's love,
discipline, support and protection for his children. On this and every
other day, those of us who are fathers should encourage other fathers
to be accountable for their children. There is much that can be done
for the fatherless -- mentoring through Boy Scouting, coaching
little-league sports, teaching in Sunday school, becoming a school
tutor, and volunteering to work with high-risk kids through an
inner-city ministry, to name just a few.
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| User: "Paul Duca" |
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| Title: Re: Fatherless in America... |
19 Jun 2005 11:11:05 AM |
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(Stupidity snipped)
I'm sure you and the writer both agree that all a father has to do
is stick his penis in once. and hit for the next 20 years--and your
complaint is to anyone trying to bust up the racket.
Paul
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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19 Jun 2005 04:37:00 PM |
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote
Many families will celebrate Father's Day this Sunday, but the tragic
reality is that some 35-million children live absent or apart from
their biological fathers. One in two children -- and only one in five
inner-city children -- are in homes with their fathers.
Amazing that this needs to be said.
Of course, many moms have no choice but to do it all because many
fathers (in and out of their homes) have abdicated their responsibility
for proper love, discipline, support and protection.
These are rather weaselly words, showing that even the great Mark Alexander
has been infected with feminism.
It doesn't work like that. What happens is that every teenaged girl is told
that she has to have a "relationship", and that its her choice whether or
not this involves sex. She is then titillated by soft pornography aimed at
teenagers, usually thinly disguised as health or emotional advice.
So the vast majority of girls have sex before they can get married, and of
course those relationships don't work out. Typically the first boyfriend is
a schoolfriend and then a new boyfriend is acquired when she goes to
university, amongst the middle classes at least. For a boy the price to be
paid for abstaining from sexual intercourse is extremely high.
So the pattern is established that you have casual relationships that break
up. The serious relationship, that results in pregnancy, starts off as a
casual relationship like all the others. So the couple meet on a training
course at work, have sex a few times, then move in with each other, then
conceive a child. It is relatively ususual for things to break up at this
point, normally both make a real and sincere effort to be a happy family.
But since both have a history of previous casual relationships, neither has
made an explicit decision that "this person is the one to whom I wish to
commit myself for the rest of my life", it is really hard.
So if the couple do not get married, effectively all the relationships will
break down at some point. If they do get married, about half will break
down.
Amongst couple who do not live together before marriage the divorce rate is
much lower. Amongst Catholic couples who don't live together before
marriage, and are faithful to the church's teaching on contraceptives, the
divorce rate is almost zero. The number of women who were virgins at
marriage, don't use contraception, and are cynically divorced by bad
husbands is extremely tiny. That's not how single parent familes come about.
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| User: "Katt" |
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21 Jun 2005 12:48:21 AM |
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"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:d946vb$oqn$3@nwrdmz02.dmz.
What happens is that every teenaged girl is told that she has to have a
"relationship", and that its her choice whether or not this involves sex.
She is then titillated by soft pornography aimed at teenagers, usually
thinly disguised as health or emotional advice.
Ummm....
So the vast majority of girls have sex before they can get married, and of
course those relationships don't work out. Typically the first boyfriend
is a schoolfriend and then a new boyfriend is acquired when she goes to
university, amongst the middle classes at least. For a boy the price to be
paid for abstaining from sexual intercourse is extremely high.
Er, I dunno about you people, but *I* am picking up a *serious* 'nutbar'
vibe from this crap...! Anyone wanna bet that the loon in question is
posting from 'alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic'...?!?!?
Katt.
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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21 Jun 2005 07:06:18 AM |
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in message
news:ptJte.39565$8m5.16340@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:d946vb$oqn$3@nwrdmz02.dmz.
What happens is that every teenaged girl is told that she has to have a
"relationship", and that its her choice whether or not this involves sex.
She is then titillated by soft pornography aimed at teenagers, usually
thinly disguised as health or emotional advice.
Ummm....
You have to worry about *anyone* who found those talks anything other than
*embarassing*
So the vast majority of girls have sex before they can get married, and
of course those relationships don't work out. Typically the first
boyfriend is a schoolfriend and then a new boyfriend is acquired when she
goes to university, amongst the middle classes at least. For a boy the
price to be paid for abstaining from sexual intercourse is extremely
high.
Er, I dunno about you people, but *I* am picking up a *serious* 'nutbar'
vibe from this crap...!
You are not alone.
Anyone wanna bet that the loon in question is
posting from 'alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic'...?!?!?
Not necessarily.
He could be a roving troll.
Susan
Katt.
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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22 Jun 2005 05:17:15 AM |
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"Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net> wrote in
news:K%Ote.2627$1q2.1231@trnddc01:
You have to worry about *anyone* who found those
talks anything other than *embarassing*
Please stop abusing my name, young man. People like you always pick on
those who cannot defend themselves, like me, a nun in the Broomleigh
Baptist church convent, working 12 hours per day, harvesting cucumbers.
--
The Real Riain and Susan Cohen
Broomleigh Baptist Church GmbH (Zürich)
http://www.real.riain.and.susan.cohen.broomleigh.com/
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| User: "Clave" |
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21 Jun 2005 02:28:59 AM |
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"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in message
news:ptJte.39565$8m5.16340@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:d946vb$oqn$3@nwrdmz02.dmz.
What happens is that every teenaged girl is told that she has to have a
"relationship", and that its her choice whether or not this involves sex. She
is then titillated by soft pornography aimed at teenagers, usually thinly
disguised as health or emotional advice.
Ummm....
So the vast majority of girls have sex before they can get married, and of
course those relationships don't work out. Typically the first boyfriend is a
schoolfriend and then a new boyfriend is acquired when she goes to
university, amongst the middle classes at least. For a boy the price to be
paid for abstaining from sexual intercourse is extremely high.
Er, I dunno about you people, but *I* am picking up a *serious* 'nutbar' vibe
from this crap...! Anyone wanna bet that the loon in question is posting from
'alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic'...?!?!?
Had me looking for soc.men in the groups line.
Jim
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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21 Jun 2005 07:07:04 AM |
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"Clave" <ClaviusNoSpamDammit@CableSpeed.com> wrote in message
news:jLadnU_nV5BK5yrfRVn-gQ@cablespeedwa.com...
"Katt" <seruhshjaudn@dfhu.net> wrote in message
news:ptJte.39565$8m5.16340@newsfe5-gui.ntli.net...
"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:d946vb$oqn$3@nwrdmz02.dmz.
[snip most of idiocy] For a boy the price to be paid for abstaining from
sexual intercourse is extremely high.
Er, I dunno about you people, but *I* am picking up a *serious* 'nutbar'
vibe from this crap...! Anyone wanna bet that the loon in question is
posting from 'alt.religion.christian.roman-catholic'...?!?!?
Had me looking for soc.men in the groups line.
GOOD ONE!
But I didn't think it was misogynistic enough for that.
Susan
Jim
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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22 Jun 2005 05:13:13 AM |
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"Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net> wrote in
news:s0Pte.2628$1q2.1490@trnddc01:
GOOD ONE!
But I didn't think it was misogynistic enough for that.
Susan
We do not have the time to repute all the false Usenet postings abusing our
names. Riain and I are nuns in the Broomleigh Baptist Church convent.
--
The Real Riain and Susan Cohen
Broomleigh Baptist Church GmbH (Zürich)
http://www.real.riain.and.susan.cohen.broomleigh.com/
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| User: "Susan Cohen" |
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19 Jun 2005 07:25:30 AM |
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
Aw, you poor thing. Well, that explains a lot....
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| User: "The other Donald" |
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21 Jun 2005 04:38:14 AM |
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"Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:K59te.31910$yw4.13079@trnddc09...
"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
Aw, you poor thing. Well, that explains a lot....
He's just a sexually ambiguous, motherless coward. The closest he gets to a
modicum of class is forging the handles of others.
Pity him.
--
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
.....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
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| User: "Loose Cannon" |
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23 Jun 2005 02:32:58 AM |
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Insane MPD pedophile and irony-impaired coward "IBenGetiner"
<Lappcatt@AOL.com> AKA "JYoung" <youngopinions@aol.com> currently
shamelessly forging as"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> made a desperate
plea for attention in message
<1119447156.738322.229590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
"The other Donald" <the_donald_13@yahooX.com> wrote in message
news:WQMte.75635$PR6.70281@tornado.texas.rr.com...
"Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:K59te.31910$yw4.13079@trnddc09...
"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
Aw, you poor thing. Well, that explains a lot....
He's just a sexually ambiguous, motherless coward. The closest he gets to
a modicum of class is forging the handles of others.
Pity him.
In all the time we've "communicated", I've NEVER made any mention of ANY
family member of yours. NEVER ONCE! What exactly are you trying to start?
Shorter "JYoung/IBen/:LCWannabe": WHAAAAAAA!
An overly sensitive forger, bigot and troll?
Who knew?
Who's handle am I forging?
Currently, mine. Tomorrow, who knows?
It's what you do. But you knew that, eh?
Of course, the REAL "Jon Young" wasn't too fond of your games, back when you
were forging him:
http://tinyurl.com/auofl
What a moron you are, IBen.
I don't claim to be anyone else AND there are currently about a dozen
"loose cannon"s posting.
Please point out all those who use "Looseain't@" in their addy, IBen.
Bet you can't.
Which of those twelve am I forging?
Lessee:
Unlike you, I have a Mercedes, and have on occasion posted to the owners
group. Perhaps you're posting as a faux LC to <alt.auto.mercedes> because
you're
thinking of buying one?:
"Dig into those deep pockets and get a new car instead of fixing the old
piece of ***** over and over."
From: "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.auto.mercedes
Subject: Re: 15-20 MPH Vibration on Acceleration
Date: 21 Jun 2005 08:37:43 -0700
Message-ID: <1119368263.462790.62910@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.116.11
This advice from a loser driving a leaky 20 year old Honda.
Too funny. Laughable even.
Of course, you mention that there are twelve "LC's", and you're but one of
'em. Well, maybe not. Looks like quite a few of those twelve are you:
From: "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.68
From: "Loose Cannon" <loosecannon__@hotmail.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.68
From: "Loose Cannon" <Findingis@aol.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.68
From: (Loose Cannon)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.68
From: "looseain't@that" <loosecannon__@hotmail.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.68
loosecannon@hotmail.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.68
loosecannonPLH@hotmail.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.68
From: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.68
From: "IBen Getiner" <Lappcatt@AOL.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.68
Looks like you've got some 'splaining to do, IBenJYoungForging.
LC~ Has seen this movie before. This is the part where this 'lil troll runs
off, tail between legs. Run, IBen, run!
"You are dealing with Usenet's biggest ***** in "loose cannon"."
From: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>, shortly before he decided he
couldn't 'whup 'em', so hero worship was in order.
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: The Greatest Beatles' Concert
Date: 18 May 2005 09:33:39 -0700
Message-ID: <1116434019.810825.312930@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.14
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23 Jun 2005 04:13:17 PM |
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the forging, stalking, pedophile Loose Cannon (looseain't@this.com)
wrote:
< nothing, as usual >
Call it what ever you wish, stalking scumbag. I am to be "loose cannon"
and don't give a ***** if you like it or not. In fact, it pleases me to
no end knowing how much it bothers you. A cocksucking, stalking *****
like yourself deserves no better. Get used to it, "loose cannon" will
be around a long, long time.
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| User: "Loose Cannon" |
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23 Jun 2005 05:02:32 PM |
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Insane MPD pedophile and irony-impaired stalker "IBenGetiner"
<Lappcatt@AOL.com> AKA "JYoung" <youngopinions@aol.com> currently
shamelessly forging as "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1119543197.036039.134470@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Call it what ever you wish, stalking scumbag. I am to be "loose cannon"
and don't give a ***** if you like it or not.
<smirk>
Ever considered anger management therapy, IBen?
You seem...out of sorts. <BFG>
In fact, it pleases me to no end knowing how much it bothers you. A
cocksucking, stalking *****
like yourself deserves no better. Get used to it, "loose cannon" will
be around a long, long time.
<yawn>
It's evident to apparently everyone but you that no one is being fooled.
Your posts, regardless of addy, all have the same stench of moronocity.
Btw, I note you completely ran away (as predicted) from addressing these
points:
You (IBen,JYoung, LCWannabe, etc.) wrote:
Who's handle am I forging?
Currently, mine. Tomorrow, who knows?
It's what you do. But you knew that, eh?
Of course, the REAL "Jon Young" wasn't too fond of your games, back when you
were forging him:
http://tinyurl.com/auofl
What a moron you are, IBen.
I don't claim to be anyone else AND there are currently about a dozen
"loose cannon"s posting.
Please point out all those who use "Looseain't@" in their addy, IBen.
Bet you can't.
Which of those twelve am I forging?
Lessee:
Unlike you, I have a Mercedes, and have on occasion posted to the owners
group. Perhaps you're posting as a faux LC to <alt.auto.mercedes> because
you're thinking of buying one?:
"Dig into those deep pockets and get a new car instead of fixing the old
piece of ***** over and over."
From: "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
Newsgroups: alt.auto.mercedes
Subject: Re: 15-20 MPH Vibration on Acceleration
Date: 21 Jun 2005 08:37:43 -0700
Message-ID: <1119368263.462790.62910@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.116.11
This advice from a loser driving a leaky 20 year old Honda.
Too funny. Laughable even.
Of course, you mention that there are twelve "LC's", and you're but one of
'em. Well, maybe not. Looks like quite a few of those twelve are you:
From: "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.68
From: "Loose Cannon" <loosecannon__@hotmail.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.68
From: "Loose Cannon" <Findingis@aol.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.68
From: (Loose Cannon)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.68
From: "looseain't@that" <loosecannon__@hotmail.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.68
loosecannon@hotmail.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.68
loosecannonPLH@hotmail.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.68
From: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.68
From: "IBen Getiner" <Lappcatt@AOL.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.68
Looks like you've got some 'splaining to do, IBenJYoungForgingAndMolesting.
LC~ Has seen this movie before. This is the part where this 'lil troll runs
off, tail between legs. Run, IBen, run!
"When you feel like a debate, respond to the ENTIRE post and I'll
consider it. If you DON'T HAVE WHAT IT TAKES, then DON'T RESPOND!"
IBen Getiner/JonYoung, hypocritically failing to heed his own advice, in
6ba61564.0403082005.7a3429b8@posting.google.com
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| User: "loose cannon" |
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22 Jun 2005 01:32:36 PM |
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The other Donald wrote:
He's just a sexually ambiguous, motherless coward. The closest he gets to a
modicum of class is forging the handles of others.
Pity him.
--
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
In all the time we've "communicated", I've NEVER made any mention of
ANY family member of yours. NEVER ONCE! What exactly are you trying to
start?
Who's handle am I forging? I don't claim to be anyone else AND there
are currently about a dozen "loose cannon"s posting. Which of those
twelve am I forging?
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| User: "Mitchell Holman" |
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22 Jun 2005 02:09:39 PM |
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in
news:1119447156.738322.229590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
The other Donald wrote:
He's just a sexually ambiguous, motherless coward. The closest he gets
to a modicum of class is forging the handles of others.
Pity him.
--
-Donald in Austin
AA #2104
Apatriot #22
Atheist FF/EMT
....and ordained minister
Stork pin recipient: May 1, 2003 -Madelyn
In all the time we've "communicated", I've NEVER made any mention of
ANY family member of yours. NEVER ONCE! What exactly are you trying to
start?
Who's handle am I forging? I don't claim to be anyone else AND there
are currently about a dozen "loose cannon"s posting. Which of those
twelve am I forging?
Perhaps you should shop around for
less popular handle. Or even use your
own name. Hey, there's a thought.....
Mitchell Holman
President Bush is the first chief executive since
John Quincy Adams in the 1820s to complete a full term
without vetoing a single spending bill.
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23 Jun 2005 04:33:32 AM |
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Mitchell Holman wrote:
Who's handle am I forging? I don't claim to be anyone else AND there
are currently about a dozen "loose cannon"s posting. Which of those
twelve am I forging?
Perhaps you should shop around for
less popular handle. Or even use your
own name. Hey, there's a thought.....
Mitchell Holman
<
Actually I used my real name for about 2 years but one of the "loose
cannon"s STALKED RELENTLESSLY. I ignored for about 1 year and then
started to respond but to no avail. He just kept stalking and stalking,
following me from group to group. Finally last month I decided what the
hell, If I'm going to be stalked and harrassed, I'll adopt the name
"loose cannon" since it's already in use by about a dozen people
anyway. If my stalker, or any of his buddies, don't like it, F*CK 'EM!!!
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23 Jun 2005 02:52:08 PM |
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1119501212.167928.46200@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Mitchell Holman wrote:
Who's handle am I forging? I don't claim to be anyone else AND there
are currently about a dozen "loose cannon"s posting. Which of those
twelve am I forging?
Perhaps you should shop around for
less popular handle. Or even use your
own name. Hey, there's a thought.....
Mitchell Holman
Actually I used my real name for about 2 years
Another day, another IBen/JYoung lie. <yawn>
'splain this, then:
http://tinyurl.com/auofl
but one of the "loose
cannon"s STALKED RELENTLESSLY. I ignored for about 1 year and then
started to respond but to no avail. He just kept stalking and stalking,
following me from group to group. Finally last month I decided what the
hell, If I'm going to be stalked and harrassed, I'll adopt the name
"loose cannon" since it's already in use by about a dozen people
anyway. If my stalker, or any of his buddies, don't like it, F*CK 'EM!!!
If you can't whup 'em...
LC~ Enjoying IBen's current meltdown.
"***** you, IBen/JYoung. You're too busy devising forged identities to
hide behind. As for "freedom of choice", the court found that the
young woman had miscarried as a result of being physically assaulted by
her boyfriend. So, ***** you again, IBen/JYoung. Don't bother
attempting to connect the dots into a CLUE that eluded you the first
time around - do the net a favor and drown yourself in a pool of your
own vomit."
From: "spartakus@my-deja.com" <spartakus@my-deja.com>
Message-ID: <1118245740.522659.223560@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>
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23 Jun 2005 01:31:20 PM |
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in news:1119501212.167928.46200
@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Mitchell Holman wrote:
Who's handle am I forging? I don't claim to be anyone else AND there
are currently about a dozen "loose cannon"s posting. Which of those
twelve am I forging?
Perhaps you should shop around for
less popular handle. Or even use your
own name. Hey, there's a thought.....
Mitchell Holman
<
Actually I used my real name for about 2 years but one of the "loose
cannon"s STALKED RELENTLESSLY. I ignored for about 1 year and then
started to respond but to no avail. He just kept stalking and stalking,
following me from group to group. Finally last month I decided what the
hell, If I'm going to be stalked and harrassed, I'll adopt the name
"loose cannon" since it's already in use by about a dozen people
anyway. If my stalker, or any of his buddies, don't like it, F*CK 'EM!!!
Whatever. Rather than figure out which
"loose cannon" I am responding to it is easier
just to killfile all of them.
Perhaps we should create newsgroup where
all the "loose cannons" can just argue among
themselves..........
Mitchell Holman
"I don't know that atheists should be considered
citizens, nor should they be considered patriots.
This is one nation under God."
George Bush, in Free Inquiry magazine, Fall 1988
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| User: "Loose Cannon" |
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23 Jun 2005 03:04:13 PM |
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"Mitchell Holman" <ta2eneNoEmal*@comcast.com> wrote in message
news:Xns967E56B204EFEta2eene2@216.196.97.131...
Whatever. Rather than figure out which
"loose cannon" I am responding to it is easier
just to killfile all of them.
Whatever, indeed.
Of course, since the AOL 'loose cannon' changes nicks regularly, that could
be an endless task:
"IBen Getiner" <Lappcatt@AOL.com>
From: "Mr.Young" <>
From: (Jon Young)
From: "J Young" <youngopinions@aol.com>
From: (Jon Young)
From: (The Nice Mean Man)
From: (The Nice Mean Man)
From: (Loose Cannon)
From: "Loose Cannon" <loosecannon__@hotmail.com>
From: "Loose Cannon" <Findingis@aol.com>
From: "looseain't@that" <loosecannon__@hotmail.com>
From: "Loose Cannon" <loosecannon@hotmail.com>
From: "Nobody's fool" <superasswipe@hotmail.com>
From:
LC~ Etc., etc., etc.
"FORGERY ISN"T NICE, AL !!!"
From: "J Young" youngopinions@aol.com, too dumb to spell 'irony', much less
understand it.
Message-ID: <1108404730.429841.11400@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>
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| User: "Sanders Kaufman" |
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23 Jun 2005 05:09:00 PM |
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"Mitchell Holman" <ta2eneNoEmal*@comcast.com> wrote in message
news:Xns967E56B204EFEta2eene2@216.196.97.131...
Perhaps we should create newsgroup where
all the "loose cannons" can just argue among
themselves..........
We're there.
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23 Jun 2005 05:54:27 PM |
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"Sanders Kaufman" <NNTP@kaufman.net> wrote in message
news:M0Cue.1747$W74.1617@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com...
"Mitchell Holman" <ta2eneNoEmal*@comcast.com> wrote in message
news:Xns967E56B204EFEta2eene2@216.196.97.131...
Perhaps we should create newsgroup where
all the "loose cannons" can just argue among
themselves..........
We're there.
<grin>
Ah, but there *is* a method at work here.
Crazy AOL troll "JYoung/IBenGetiner/LCWannabe, etc." positively *lives* for
the attention he receives, no matter how ugly it reflects upon him.
It's his life. Such as it is.
Sooner or later, when all "LC's" end up in the bin, no one will be subjected
to his peculiar brand of troll idiocy. I'll take the bullet to help Usenet
return to being a kinder, gentler place.
LC~ Yeah, right...
"Life must be lived forwards but understood backwards"~Soren Kierkegaard
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24 Jun 2005 04:43:16 AM |
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the stalker Loose Cannon (looseain't@this.com) wrote:
Sooner or later, when all "LC's" end up in the bin, no one will be subjected
to his peculiar brand of troll idiocy. I'll take the bullet to help Usenet
return to being a kinder, gentler place.
Doesn't make any difference what you do. I am "loose cannon", NO MATTER
WHAT.
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24 Jun 2005 01:58:52 PM |
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Insane MPD pedophile and irony-impaired stalker "IBenGetiner"
<Lappcatt@AOL.com> AKA "JYoung" <youngopinions@aol.com> currently
shamelessly forging as "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1119588196.577134.95130@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Doesn't make any difference what you do. I am "loose cannon", NO MATTER
WHAT.
There, there, 'lil troll. Don't get your panties in a bunch.
Wipe the tears away. You can be whoever you please.
After all, since your "IBen" sock no longer gets much play, I can see why
you need to fill the void.
You enjoy whichever nick you choose to borrow. Ultimately, in the real world
of the sane, it's as meaningless as your life. Indeed, I'll bet the real
"Jon Young" is happy that you're no longer spreading your idiocy around in
his borrowed name.
After all, you've already established quite a history as "loose", haven't
you?:
"I have finally found the love that is Jesus.Praise Him most high.His
voice will be my voice.Let nothing or no one come between us.I will be
sharing my new found faith with you; my friends in Christ.I will teach
you the way. You will sin no more.Together, we will live by His
commandments.Amen."
From: (Loose Cannon)
Newsgroups:
alt.abortion,alt.abortion.inequity,alt.freemasonry,alt.prisons,alt.religion.voodoo
Subject: Loose Cannon and Jesus: Together at last.
Date: 17 Mar 2004 09:07:44 -0800
Message-ID: <5a858a1e.0403170907.1467b61a@posting.google.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.209.7
"Enough with the villianising of O.J.Simpson. He was found innocent in
a court of law;by a jury of his peers.Anyone who still doubts his
innocence is motivated by racism.Leave this poor man alone.Pray for
the doubters of the American Justice system."
From: (Loose Cannon)
Newsgroups:
alt.law-enforcement,alt.flame.niggers,alt.politics.homosexuality,alt.spacebastards,alt.abortion
Subject: O.J. Simpson was innocent.
Date: 20 Mar 2004 21:58:16 -0800
Message-ID: <5a858a1e.0403202158.66f27a86@posting.google.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.188.116.23
Of course, your Michael Jackson fixation is there:
"Why must poor Michael be so vilified because he was being kind to a
child.Sleeping in the same bed is not a crime. Michael is a married
man with 3 children of his own. I think it's racism.Please! write to
your local newspaper and tell them that you believe Michael Jackson is
just a misunderstood man, who is completely innocent. Thankyou."
From: (Loose Cannon)
Newsgroups:
ne.weather,dfw.singles,alt.appalachian,alt.revisionism,alt.astrology
Subject: Michael Jackson is innocent.
Date: 13 Mar 2004 20:55:10 -0800
Message-ID: <5a858a1e.0403132055.5544ecd3@posting.google.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.252.163
As is your usual racist hangouts:
From: (Loose Cannon)
Newsgroups:
alt.flame.niggers,soc.culture.african.american,soc.culture.haiti,alt.abortion,alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: Re: True words about niggers
Date: 20 Mar 2004 09:12:25 -0800
Message-ID: <5a858a1e.0403200912.15cc8ef7@posting.google.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.116.199
And who can forget the post that cost you your family?:
"My friend Ray and I are trying to organize a protest rally this summer
in NYC, during the Republican National convention. We are going to
demand that the federal gov't give funds to this fine organization.
Instead of funding wars overseas; why not fund us people who want to
spread a little love.NAMBLA is all about togetherness and comforting
our young people with guidance from an older generation Please help
us. I know the folks in these NG's can identify with our plight. We
are just very misunderstood; we get bad press, but we stand for love"
From: (Loose Cannon)
Newsgroups:
alt.support.boy-lovers,alt.politics.homosexuality,alt.politics.usa.republican,soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Federal funds for NAMBLA
Date: 10 Mar 2004 09:44:11 -0800
Message-ID: <5a858a1e.0403100944.676efbd7@posting.google.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.116.202
You enjoy playing with your new nick, IBen. I wouldn't have it any other
way. Should be fun, yes?
LC~ Let the games begin!
"You use a persons own past words to defeat them and suddenly you're a
stalker. If you can't stand the heat, get yer azz OUT of the kitchen, IBen
has always said. Fight the good fight or SHUT IT!" IBen Getiner
From: (IBen Getiner), big talking coward.
Newsgroups: alt.music.moody-blues
Date: 25 Jul 2004 16:32:28 GMT
Subject: Re: Resentful STALKERS:
Message-ID: <20040725123228.25422.00002138@mb-m29.aol.com>
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23 Jun 2005 02:14:04 PM |
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Mitchell Holman wrote:
Whatever. Rather than figure out which
"loose cannon" I am responding to it is easier
just to killfile all of them.
That is by far the best idea I've seen yet.
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| User: "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" |
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19 Jun 2005 10:28:40 AM |
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"Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net> wrote in news:K59te.31910$yw4.13079
@trnddc09:
"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
Aw, you poor thing. Well, that explains a lot....
May we please point out, Mr Cannon, that the fake Susan Cohen and the false
Riain Barton do not reflect the view of the true Misses Cohen and Barton?
As nuns, brides of Christ if you will, We are too busy harvesting cucumbers
to support the Broomleigh Baptist convent, where we have to share a room,
to worry about things like that.
--
The Real Riain and Susan Cohen
Broomleigh Baptist Church GmbH (Zürich)
http://www.real.riain.and.susan.cohen.broomleigh.com/
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| User: "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" |
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19 Jun 2005 07:38:44 PM |
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May we point out that we know you are not a real church, and that you
are just spoofing fundamental Christianity... SO DO IT ELSEWHERE, YOU
FUCKING EEJITS -- THIS IS A JEWISH GROUP!!!!
"øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
news:Xns967A74BC77CD1riainzionorgil@127.0.0.1...
: "Susan Cohen" <flavia18@verizon.net> wrote in
news:K59te.31910$yw4.13079
: @trnddc09:
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: > "loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
: >
: > Aw, you poor thing. Well, that explains a lot....
:
: May we please point out, Mr Cannon, that the fake Susan Cohen and the
false
: Riain Barton do not reflect the view of the true Misses Cohen and
Barton?
:
: As nuns, brides of Christ if you will, We are too busy harvesting
cucumbers
: to support the Broomleigh Baptist convent, where we have to share a
room,
: to worry about things like that.
:
:
: --
: The Real Riain and Susan Cohen
: Broomleigh Baptist Church GmbH (Zürich)
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: http://www.real.riain.and.susan.cohen.broomleigh.com/
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20 Jun 2005 04:55:53 AM |
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"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1119155771.884170.259940@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/markalexander/ma20050617.shtml
Fatherless in America...
by Mark Alexander
Perahps if our Militant Christian community would adopt them, they might be
better off.
But instead, you just attack them for not having fathers.
You're sick.
On Father's Day, we should, indeed, pay tribute to the irreplaceable
institution of fatherhood -- and the importance of a father's love,
discipline, support and protection for his children.
Not sending them to die killing other people's fathers would certainly help.
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| User: "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" |
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19 Jun 2005 05:48:35 AM |
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Because America has spent billions on having a WAR ON DRUGS, and keeping
drugs illegal, therefore causing more crime and more problems with drugs
than in the first place!
Leading to many fathers being in prison, or murdered.
They could have been spending this money on investing in America's
future, it's children, with free university education, and a free health
care system and paying Americans to build a better infrastructure and
public transportation so that it would not be dependent on foreign oil
and spending billions on war.
"loose cannon" <looseaint@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1119155771.884170.259940@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
: http://www.townhall.com/columnists/markalexander/ma20050617.shtml
:
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: Fatherless in America...
:
: by Mark Alexander
:
:
: Many families will celebrate Father's Day this Sunday, but the tragic
: reality is that some 35-million children live absent or apart from
: their biological fathers. One in two children -- and only one in five
: inner-city children -- are in homes with their fathers.
:
: Of course, any assertion that fathers are critical to the well-being
of
: children will undoubtedly offend the PC NOW crowd -- you know, those
: enlightened liberals who have, for the past four decades, insisted
that
: mothers can do it all. Indeed, they've dismissed men as little more
: than a nuisance -- one necessary for procreation but detrimental to
: proper parenting.
:
: The Grande Dame of the so-called "women's movement," Gloria Steinem,
: once declared, "A woman without a man is like a fish without a
: bicycle." Liberal columnist Maureen Dowd's forthcoming book, "Are Men
: Necessary?" is the latest manifestation of the man-hater movement.
:
: Of course, many moms have no choice but to do it all because many
: fathers (in and out of their homes) have abdicated their
responsibility
: for proper love, discipline, support and protection. The disastrous
: social consequences of this abdication are clearly evident and well
: documented. Though some single parents do manage to bring up
relatively
: well-adjusted kids with the help of extended families, churches and
: schools, the correlation between social deviancy and fatherless homes
: is irrefutably linked.
:
: Not all fathers are separated from their children voluntarily -- many
: are forcibly removed by mothers who've bought into the lie that
fathers
: aren't necessary. Of course, there are also mothers who just want to
: upgrade. Under such circumstances, most state courts provide fathers
: limited responsibility or visitation with their children, and only now
: are some states acknowledging the critical role fathers play in the
: lives of their children.
:
: Here is the truth -- and it is a hard truth for men who have abandoned
: their families, but a harder truth for their children: Most social
: problems -- crime, drug abuse, unwed pregnancy and abortion, youth
: suicide, school dropouts and the like -- are the direct consequence of
: fatherless households.
:
: "Children who grow up with their fathers do far better -- emotionally,
: educationally, physically, every way we can measure -- than children
: who do not," notes Institute for American Values president David
: Blankenhorn. "This conclusion holds true even when differences of
race,
: class and income are taken into account. The simple truth is that
: fathers are irreplaceable in shaping the competence and character of
: their children. ... [The absence of fathers] from family life is
surely
: the most socially consequential family trend of our era."
:
: Indeed it is.
:
: Here are some sobering statistics: According to the CDC, DoJ, DHHS and
: the Bureau of the Census, 63% of teen suicides, 70% of juveniles in
: state-operated institutions, 71% of high-school dropouts, 75% of
: children in chemical-abuse centers, 80% of rapists, 85% of youths in
: prison, 85% of children who exhibit behavioral disorders, and 90% of
: homeless and runaway children are children from fatherless homes. In
: fact, children born to unwed mothers are ten times more likely to live
: in poverty as children with fathers in the home.
:
: "[The causal link between fatherless children and crime] is so strong
: that controlling for family configuration erases the relationship
: between race and crime and between low income and crime," notes social
: researcher Barbara Dafoe Whitehead. More to the point, a counselor at
a
: juvenile-detention facility in California, which has the nation's
: highest juvenile-incarceration rate, protested, "[If] you find a gang
: member who comes from a complete nuclear family, I'd like to meet him.
: ... I don't think that kid exists."
:
: "Maturity does not come with age, but with the accepting of
: responsibility for one's actions," writes Dr. Edwin Cole. "The lack of
: effective, functioning fathers is the root cause of America's social,
: economic and spiritual crises."
:
: History also records the exploits of those who grew up without
fathers,
: or with weak or abusive fathers. They became Adolf Hitler, Iosif
: Vissarionouich Djugashvili (Joseph Stalin), Mao Zedong and Saddam
: Hussein.
:
: In any case, never let it be said that the Left allows facts to get in
: the way of its agenda. Arguably, liberal social policies are directly
: responsible for generations of homeless children, particularly black
: children. As we've noted before, Democrats have a vested interest in
: keeping blacks and other constituencies dependent on the state; such a
: dependency, after all, creates a strong allegiance.
:
: The man-hating Left is not content merely to eradicate the traditional
: family. They also want to eradicate Judeo-Christian values from the
: home. Take NOW's website, for example, which proclaims, "Underneath
the
: facade of Christian religion are the workings of the radical religious
: right, mobilizing men against the rights of women, lesbians, and
gays."
: The University of Virginia's Bradford Wilcox notes in a recent
Heritage
: Foundation report that the Left sees religion as "a key factor in
: stalling the gender revolution at home."
:
: Is this agenda what generations of Americans have toiled and died to
: preserve?
:
: Founder John Adams understood well: "The foundation of national
: morality must be laid in private families.... How is it possible that
: Children can have any just Sense of the sacred Obligations of Morality
: or Religion if, from their earliest Infancy, they learn their Mothers
: live in habitual Infidelity to their fathers, and their fathers in as
: constant Infidelity to their Mothers?" Abigail Adams wrote, "What is
it
: that affectionate parents require of their Children; for all their
: care, anxiety, and toil on their accounts? Only that they would be
wise
: and virtuous, Benevolent and kind."
:
: So where to from here?
:
: On Father's Day, we should, indeed, pay tribute to the irreplaceable
: institution of fatherhood -- and the importance of a father's love,
: discipline, support and protection for his children. On this and every
: other day, those of us who are fathers should encourage other fathers
: to be accountable for their children. There is much that can be done
: for the fatherless -- mentoring through Boy Scouting, coaching
: little-league sports, teaching in Sunday school, becoming a school
: tutor, and volunteering to work with high-risk kids through an
: inner-city ministry, to name just a few.
:
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"øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in news:Ty7te.108896
$8S5.77642@bignews3.bellsouth.net:
Because America has spent billions on having
a WAR ON DRUGS, and keeping drugs illegal,
therefore causing more crime and more problems
with drugs than in the first place!
Please stop abusing my name. Susan Cohen and I do not have the time to
correct all the posts you send in our names, after a hard days work, in the
Broomleigh Baptist Church convent cucumber fields.
--
The Real Riain and Susan Cohen
Broomleigh Baptist Church GmbH (Zürich)
http://www.real.riain.and.susan.cohen.broomleigh.com/
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| User: "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" |
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19 Jun 2005 06:18:17 AM |
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FORGERY
You disgusting English *****.
"øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in message
news:Xns967A4935B52B4riainzionorgil@127.0.0.1...
: "øéòéï áøúåïý/Riain Barton" <riain@zion.org.il> wrote in
news:Ty7te.108896
: $8S5.77642@bignews3.bellsouth.net:
:
: > Because America has spent billions on having
: > a WAR ON DRUGS, and keeping drugs illegal,
: > therefore causing more crime and more problems
: > with drugs than in the first place!
:
:
: Please stop abusing my name. Susan Cohen and I do not have the time
to
: correct all the posts you send in our names, after a hard days work,
in the
: Broomleigh Baptist Church convent cucumber fields.
:
:
:
: Broomleigh Baptist Church GmbH (Zürich)
:
: http://www.real.riain.and.susan.cohen.broomleigh.com/
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