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Topic: Religions > Atheism
User: "J Young"
Date: 25 Mar 2006 11:12:52 PM
Object: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect
God bless them!!
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html
Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect
WEST PALM BEACH - For two months, they spent their nights as volunteer
security guards in their burglary-plagued house of God.
The vigilance paid off early Friday when a suspected burglar broke through a
window and encountered a half-dozen church members wielding baseball bats
and broom handles.
When police arrived, at about 1 a.m., they found the man battered and bound
with rope on the roof outside a second-story window of the Church of the
Nazarene in northern West Palm Beach.
"We think it was the same burglar who broke in two months ago. He used the
same window," said Aristeo Paxtor, 31, who was the first to confront the
suspect.
The action began around 12:50 a.m. when the makeshift guards, waiting in the
dark, heard the pattering of footsteps on the roof. They then heard a window
break, and one dialed 911.
Paxtor was the first to make contact, swinging a bat at the suspect as he
opened a door, striking him across the chest and sending him reeling
backward.
By then, volunteer guard Esteban Mendoza had made his way to the roof and
was waiting for the suspect to scramble out the same window he entered. When
he was halfway out the window, Mendoza hit him in the back with a bat,
according to police reports.
Using rope purchased just for this occasion, the volunteers tied him up and
waited for police to arrive.
"We were simply defending ourselves and our church," said Juan Delfin, 26,
one of the volunteers. "The police can't be everywhere."
--
----------------
" The truth shall set you free "
.

User: "-Alan aa#1608 BAAWA"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 26 Mar 2006 12:45:15 AM

For two months, they spent their nights as volunteer security
guards in their burglary-plagued house of God.

You'd think an all-powerful super being could keep the burglars away
himself.
-Alan
.

User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 25 Mar 2006 11:15:53 PM
In News mpidnUrr6sxsv7vZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J Young at
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God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect


Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
.
User: "Dysperdis"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 25 Mar 2006 11:36:32 PM
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God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect



Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!

Apparently, turn the other cheek just long enough to grab his baseball bat.
--
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User: "duke"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 26 Mar 2006 07:06:07 AM
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:15:53 GMT, "Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD>
wrote:

In News mpidnUrr6sxsv7vZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:

God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect

Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!

What do you think? He threw the money changers out of his Father's House for
desecrating it. What does a burglar deserve?
..
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 26 Mar 2006 07:17:20 AM
In News tb4d22d40cc8mnf0362llt2ig0dod5hj0t@4ax.com,, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:15:53 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News mpidnUrr6sxsv7vZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:

God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect


Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!


What do you think? He threw the money changers out of his Father's
House for desecrating it.

Yet, he didn't beat them with a baseball bat.

What does a burglar deserve?

Who are you to judge?
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
.
User: "Jim Higgins"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 26 Mar 2006 07:22:22 AM
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:15:53 GMT, "Andrealphus"
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In News mpidnUrr6sxsv7vZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J Young at
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God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect


Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!


What do you think? He threw the money changers out of his Father's
House for desecrating it.


Yet, he didn't beat them with a baseball bat.


What does a burglar deserve?


Who are you to judge?


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson

He is certainly better able to judge than you. Remember that the thief on
the cross acknowledged that they were getting what they deserved.
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 26 Mar 2006 07:39:51 AM
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:15:53 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News mpidnUrr6sxsv7vZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J Young at
youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:

God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect


Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!


What do you think? He threw the money changers out of his Father's
House for desecrating it.


Yet, he didn't beat them with a baseball bat.


What does a burglar deserve?


Who are you to judge?


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


He is certainly better able to judge than you.

No, he is not.

Remember that the
thief on the cross acknowledged that they were getting what they
deserved.

Yet, he went to heaven.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
.
User: "Jim Higgins"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 26 Mar 2006 08:02:22 AM
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:15:53 GMT, "Andrealphus"
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In News mpidnUrr6sxsv7vZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J Young at
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God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect


Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!


What do you think? He threw the money changers out of his Father's
House for desecrating it.


Yet, he didn't beat them with a baseball bat.


What does a burglar deserve?


Who are you to judge?


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


He is certainly better able to judge than you.


No, he is not.


Remember that the
thief on the cross acknowledged that they were getting what they
deserved.


Yet, he went to heaven.


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson

Indeed he did but he first paid the penalty for being a thief-the penalty
was death. A person can be forgiven and go to heaven but they are not
necessarily free of the consequences of their sin-David and the thief on the
cross being two examples.
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 26 Mar 2006 08:07:00 AM
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:15:53 GMT, "Andrealphus"
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In News mpidnUrr6sxsv7vZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J Young
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God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect


Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!


What do you think? He threw the money changers out of his
Father's House for desecrating it.


Yet, he didn't beat them with a baseball bat.


What does a burglar deserve?


Who are you to judge?


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there
be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


He is certainly better able to judge than you.


No, he is not.


Remember that the
thief on the cross acknowledged that they were getting what they
deserved.


Yet, he went to heaven.


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded fear. – Thomas Jefferson


Indeed he did but he first paid the penalty for being a thief-the
penalty was death.

He paid a penalty after his trial, and conviction. Not by a godless mob
with baseball bats.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
.
User: "Jim Higgins"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 26 Mar 2006 09:16:48 AM
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God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect


Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!


What do you think? He threw the money changers out of his
Father's House for desecrating it.


Yet, he didn't beat them with a baseball bat.


What does a burglar deserve?


Who are you to judge?


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there
be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


He is certainly better able to judge than you.


No, he is not.


Remember that the
thief on the cross acknowledged that they were getting what they
deserved.


Yet, he went to heaven.


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded fear. – Thomas Jefferson


Indeed he did but he first paid the penalty for being a thief-the
penalty was death.


He paid a penalty after his trial, and conviction. Not by a godless mob
with baseball bats.

--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson

Nothing godless about people protecting their church from theft. Do you
plan to stand by and watch your home being looted by the economically
challenged and/or socially deprived? Or depraved.
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 26 Mar 2006 09:27:31 AM
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God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect


Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!


What do you think? He threw the money changers out of his
Father's House for desecrating it.


Yet, he didn't beat them with a baseball bat.


What does a burglar deserve?


Who are you to judge?


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than
that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


He is certainly better able to judge than you.


No, he is not.


Remember that the
thief on the cross acknowledged that they were getting what they
deserved.


Yet, he went to heaven.


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there
be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded fear. – Thomas Jefferson


Indeed he did but he first paid the penalty for being a thief-the
penalty was death.


He paid a penalty after his trial, and conviction. Not by a godless
mob with baseball bats.

--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded fear. – Thomas Jefferson


Nothing godless about people protecting their church from theft.

When the use the local authorties no...
When they beat a man with a baseball bat, they're a godless mob, no more, no
less.
Do

you plan to stand by and watch your home being looted by the
economically challenged and/or socially deprived? Or depraved.

Not when the cops respond the the alarms. Not to gather up Jed and the gang
to wait for a guy with baseball bats.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
.


User: "Alberich"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 26 Mar 2006 08:47:03 AM
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God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect


Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!


What do you think? He threw the money changers out of his
Father's House for desecrating it.


Yet, he didn't beat them with a baseball bat.


What does a burglar deserve?


Who are you to judge?


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there
be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


He is certainly better able to judge than you.


No, he is not.


Remember that the
thief on the cross acknowledged that they were getting what they
deserved.


Yet, he went to heaven.


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded fear. – Thomas Jefferson


Indeed he did but he first paid the penalty for being a thief-the
penalty was death.


He paid a penalty after his trial, and conviction. Not by a godless mob
with baseball bats.

Yeah, you're right. They may have had the wrong man. It was probably
Santa Claus coming to restore all that was taken.
Alberich
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 26 Mar 2006 08:50:40 AM
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God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect


Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!


What do you think? He threw the money changers out of his
Father's House for desecrating it.


Yet, he didn't beat them with a baseball bat.


What does a burglar deserve?


Who are you to judge?


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than
that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


He is certainly better able to judge than you.


No, he is not.


Remember that the
thief on the cross acknowledged that they were getting what they
deserved.


Yet, he went to heaven.


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there
be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


Indeed he did but he first paid the penalty for being a thief-the
penalty was death.


He paid a penalty after his trial, and conviction. Not by a godless
mob with baseball bats.


Yeah, you're right. They may have had the wrong man. It was probably
Santa Claus coming to restore all that was taken.

Alberich

Whether it was the wrong man or not, you don't beat people with baseball
bats. Anyone for a silent alarm on the window, or is that too much to ask
from religionists? Of course, they probably enjoyed beating the man. Some
church.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
.
User: "Jim Higgins"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 26 Mar 2006 09:06:40 AM
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:15:53 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News mpidnUrr6sxsv7vZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J Young
at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:

God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect


Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!


What do you think? He threw the money changers out of his
Father's House for desecrating it.


Yet, he didn't beat them with a baseball bat.


What does a burglar deserve?


Who are you to judge?


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than
that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


He is certainly better able to judge than you.


No, he is not.


Remember that the
thief on the cross acknowledged that they were getting what they
deserved.


Yet, he went to heaven.


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there
be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


Indeed he did but he first paid the penalty for being a thief-the
penalty was death.


He paid a penalty after his trial, and conviction. Not by a godless
mob with baseball bats.


Yeah, you're right. They may have had the wrong man. It was probably
Santa Claus coming to restore all that was taken.

Alberich


Whether it was the wrong man or not, you don't beat people with baseball
bats. Anyone for a silent alarm on the window, or is that too much to
ask from religionists? Of course, they probably enjoyed beating the man.
Some church.


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson

Be sure to post a large sign in your yard stating no weapons, no violence.
See how long it takes for you to get cleaned out.
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 26 Mar 2006 09:12:34 AM
In News 122dbfv263eakc7@corp.supernews.com,, Jim Higgins at
gordian238@hotmail.com, typed this:

"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:07:00 GMT, "Andrealphus"
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:15:53 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News mpidnUrr6sxsv7vZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:

God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect


Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!


What do you think? He threw the money changers out of his
Father's House for desecrating it.


Yet, he didn't beat them with a baseball bat.


What does a burglar deserve?


Who are you to judge?


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than
that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


He is certainly better able to judge than you.


No, he is not.


Remember that the
thief on the cross acknowledged that they were getting what they
deserved.


Yet, he went to heaven.


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than
that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


Indeed he did but he first paid the penalty for being a thief-the
penalty was death.


He paid a penalty after his trial, and conviction. Not by a
godless mob with baseball bats.


Yeah, you're right. They may have had the wrong man. It was
probably Santa Claus coming to restore all that was taken.

Alberich


Whether it was the wrong man or not, you don't beat people with
baseball bats. Anyone for a silent alarm on the window, or is that
too much to ask from religionists? Of course, they probably enjoyed
beating the man. Some church.


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


Be sure to post a large sign in your yard stating no weapons, no
violence. See how long it takes for you to get cleaned out.

Are you that stupid? No one said that they had to advertise to criminals.
My house is equipt with silent alarms, not to mention an eight foot natural
stone wall around the perimeter. Am I waiting like a redneck at my window
with eight or ten of my rednecked buddies with baseball bats just drooling
at the prospect of beating someone? No, I leave that the the people at the
church. Personally, I hope they all get prosecuted or sued. No matter how
you slice it, that is wrong.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
.


User: "Alberich"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 26 Mar 2006 10:07:56 AM
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:50:40 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News 8aad22128bg2goujgd6bcclh8pndv8hjco@4ax.com,, Alberich at
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:07:00 GMT, "Andrealphus"
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duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:15:53 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News mpidnUrr6sxsv7vZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J Young
at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:

God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect


Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!


What do you think? He threw the money changers out of his
Father's House for desecrating it.


Yet, he didn't beat them with a baseball bat.


What does a burglar deserve?


Who are you to judge?


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than
that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


He is certainly better able to judge than you.


No, he is not.


Remember that the
thief on the cross acknowledged that they were getting what they
deserved.


Yet, he went to heaven.


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there
be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


Indeed he did but he first paid the penalty for being a thief-the
penalty was death.


He paid a penalty after his trial, and conviction. Not by a godless
mob with baseball bats.


Yeah, you're right. They may have had the wrong man. It was probably
Santa Claus coming to restore all that was taken.

Alberich


Whether it was the wrong man or not, you don't beat people with baseball
bats. Anyone for a silent alarm on the window, or is that too much to ask
from religionists? Of course, they probably enjoyed beating the man. Some
church.

I agree with the basic point. But I think you go about it the wrong
way, making it sound like there was any doubt that the man they beat
after he broke into the Church may not have been the man that broke
into the Church...
Alberich
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 26 Mar 2006 10:18:39 AM
In News eded22t9mfc52bbbva5qj5rav915cgtmhk@4ax.com,, Alberich at
Alberich@NoSpam.com, typed this:

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:50:40 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News 8aad22128bg2goujgd6bcclh8pndv8hjco@4ax.com,, Alberich at
Alberich@NoSpam.com, typed this:

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:07:00 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News 122d7nbj2qguq30@corp.supernews.com,, Jim Higgins at
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"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
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In News tb4d22d40cc8mnf0362llt2ig0dod5hj0t@4ax.com,, duke at
duckgumbo32@cox.net, typed this:

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:15:53 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News mpidnUrr6sxsv7vZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:

God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect


Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!


What do you think? He threw the money changers out of his
Father's House for desecrating it.


Yet, he didn't beat them with a baseball bat.


What does a burglar deserve?


Who are you to judge?


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than
that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


He is certainly better able to judge than you.


No, he is not.


Remember that the
thief on the cross acknowledged that they were getting what they
deserved.


Yet, he went to heaven.


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than
that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


Indeed he did but he first paid the penalty for being a thief-the
penalty was death.


He paid a penalty after his trial, and conviction. Not by a
godless mob with baseball bats.


Yeah, you're right. They may have had the wrong man. It was
probably Santa Claus coming to restore all that was taken.

Alberich


Whether it was the wrong man or not, you don't beat people with
baseball bats. Anyone for a silent alarm on the window, or is that
too much to ask from religionists? Of course, they probably enjoyed
beating the man. Some church.


I agree with the basic point. But I think you go about it the wrong
way, making it sound like there was any doubt that the man they beat
after he broke into the Church may not have been the man that broke
into the Church...

Alberich

You're a police officer. You get a call to a local church and when you
enter you see six men with baseball bats and a half dead man lying on the
floor. The five men with bats say that the guy on the floor broke in
through the window. The young man manages to stammer out that the men
dragged him in through the door and beat him, then broke the window himself.
Who do you arrest?
Did you even bother to ask the beaten man what happened?
Who is lying?
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
.
User: "Jim Higgins"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 26 Mar 2006 11:25:46 AM
"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
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In News eded22t9mfc52bbbva5qj5rav915cgtmhk@4ax.com,, Alberich at
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:50:40 GMT, "Andrealphus"
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In News 8aad22128bg2goujgd6bcclh8pndv8hjco@4ax.com,, Alberich at
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:07:00 GMT, "Andrealphus"
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In News 122d7nbj2qguq30@corp.supernews.com,, Jim Higgins at
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:15:53 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News mpidnUrr6sxsv7vZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:

God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect


Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!


What do you think? He threw the money changers out of his
Father's House for desecrating it.


Yet, he didn't beat them with a baseball bat.


What does a burglar deserve?


Who are you to judge?


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than
that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


He is certainly better able to judge than you.


No, he is not.


Remember that the
thief on the cross acknowledged that they were getting what they
deserved.


Yet, he went to heaven.


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than
that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


Indeed he did but he first paid the penalty for being a thief-the
penalty was death.


He paid a penalty after his trial, and conviction. Not by a
godless mob with baseball bats.


Yeah, you're right. They may have had the wrong man. It was
probably Santa Claus coming to restore all that was taken.

Alberich


Whether it was the wrong man or not, you don't beat people with
baseball bats. Anyone for a silent alarm on the window, or is that
too much to ask from religionists? Of course, they probably enjoyed
beating the man. Some church.


I agree with the basic point. But I think you go about it the wrong
way, making it sound like there was any doubt that the man they beat
after he broke into the Church may not have been the man that broke
into the Church...

Alberich


You're a police officer. You get a call to a local church and when you
enter you see six men with baseball bats and a half dead man lying on the
floor. The five men with bats say that the guy on the floor broke in
through the window. The young man manages to stammer out that the men
dragged him in through the door and beat him, then broke the window
himself.

Who do you arrest?

Did you even bother to ask the beaten man what happened?

Who is lying?

--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson

You live in a really starnge fantasy world.
.
User: "Dennis Kemmerer"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 27 Mar 2006 12:17:42 AM
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:50:40 GMT, "Andrealphus"
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:07:00 GMT, "Andrealphus"
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:15:53 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News mpidnUrr6sxsv7vZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:

God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect


Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!


What do you think? He threw the money changers out of his
Father's House for desecrating it.


Yet, he didn't beat them with a baseball bat.


What does a burglar deserve?


Who are you to judge?


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than
that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


He is certainly better able to judge than you.


No, he is not.


Remember that the
thief on the cross acknowledged that they were getting what they
deserved.


Yet, he went to heaven.


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than
that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


Indeed he did but he first paid the penalty for being a thief-the
penalty was death.


He paid a penalty after his trial, and conviction. Not by a
godless mob with baseball bats.


Yeah, you're right. They may have had the wrong man. It was
probably Santa Claus coming to restore all that was taken.

Alberich


Whether it was the wrong man or not, you don't beat people with
baseball bats. Anyone for a silent alarm on the window, or is that
too much to ask from religionists? Of course, they probably enjoyed
beating the man. Some church.


I agree with the basic point. But I think you go about it the wrong
way, making it sound like there was any doubt that the man they beat
after he broke into the Church may not have been the man that broke
into the Church...

Alberich


You're a police officer. You get a call to a local church and when you
enter you see six men with baseball bats and a half dead man lying on the
floor. The five men with bats say that the guy on the floor broke in
through the window. The young man manages to stammer out that the men
dragged him in through the door and beat him, then broke the window
himself.

Who do you arrest?

Did you even bother to ask the beaten man what happened?

Who is lying?

--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson

You live in a really starnge fantasy world.

[thread intentionally left intact]
That's just too rich.
.

User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 26 Mar 2006 01:28:21 PM
In News 122djkn5de3fs22@corp.supernews.com,, Jim Higgins at
gordian238@hotmail.com, typed this:

"Andrealphus" <NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote in message
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In News eded22t9mfc52bbbva5qj5rav915cgtmhk@4ax.com,, Alberich at
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:50:40 GMT, "Andrealphus"
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In News 8aad22128bg2goujgd6bcclh8pndv8hjco@4ax.com,, Alberich at
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:15:53 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News mpidnUrr6sxsv7vZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:

God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect


Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!


What do you think? He threw the money changers out of his
Father's House for desecrating it.


Yet, he didn't beat them with a baseball bat.


What does a burglar deserve?


Who are you to judge?


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than
that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


He is certainly better able to judge than you.


No, he is not.


Remember that the
thief on the cross acknowledged that they were getting what
they deserved.


Yet, he went to heaven.


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than
that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


Indeed he did but he first paid the penalty for being a
thief-the penalty was death.


He paid a penalty after his trial, and conviction. Not by a
godless mob with baseball bats.


Yeah, you're right. They may have had the wrong man. It was
probably Santa Claus coming to restore all that was taken.

Alberich


Whether it was the wrong man or not, you don't beat people with
baseball bats. Anyone for a silent alarm on the window, or is
that too much to ask from religionists? Of course, they probably
enjoyed beating the man. Some church.


I agree with the basic point. But I think you go about it the wrong
way, making it sound like there was any doubt that the man they beat
after he broke into the Church may not have been the man that broke
into the Church...

Alberich


You're a police officer. You get a call to a local church and when
you enter you see six men with baseball bats and a half dead man
lying on the floor. The five men with bats say that the guy on the
floor broke in through the window. The young man manages to stammer
out that the men dragged him in through the door and beat him, then
broke the window himself.

Who do you arrest?

Did you even bother to ask the beaten man what happened?

Who is lying?

--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


You live in a really starnge fantasy world.

I was about to say the same of you.
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. – Thomas Jefferson
.


User: "Alberich"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 26 Mar 2006 01:15:49 PM
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 16:18:39 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News eded22t9mfc52bbbva5qj5rav915cgtmhk@4ax.com,, Alberich at
Alberich@NoSpam.com, typed this:

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:50:40 GMT, "Andrealphus"
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God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect


Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!


What do you think? He threw the money changers out of his
Father's House for desecrating it.


Yet, he didn't beat them with a baseball bat.


What does a burglar deserve?


Who are you to judge?


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than
that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


He is certainly better able to judge than you.


No, he is not.


Remember that the
thief on the cross acknowledged that they were getting what they
deserved.


Yet, he went to heaven.


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than
that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


Indeed he did but he first paid the penalty for being a thief-the
penalty was death.


He paid a penalty after his trial, and conviction. Not by a
godless mob with baseball bats.


Yeah, you're right. They may have had the wrong man. It was
probably Santa Claus coming to restore all that was taken.

Alberich


Whether it was the wrong man or not, you don't beat people with
baseball bats. Anyone for a silent alarm on the window, or is that
too much to ask from religionists? Of course, they probably enjoyed
beating the man. Some church.


I agree with the basic point. But I think you go about it the wrong
way, making it sound like there was any doubt that the man they beat
after he broke into the Church may not have been the man that broke
into the Church...

Alberich


You're a police officer. You get a call to a local church and when you
enter you see six men with baseball bats and a half dead man lying on the
floor. The five men with bats say that the guy on the floor broke in
through the window. The young man manages to stammer out that the men
dragged him in through the door and beat him, then broke the window himself.

Who do you arrest?

Did you even bother to ask the beaten man what happened?

Who is lying?

I'm telling you, I agree with you--they shouldn't have beaten the guy.
Although I think it's highly unlikely that these guys dragged some
random guy off the street to beat.
Alberich
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 26 Mar 2006 01:32:39 PM
In News n1qd22ljt88b2spi7dup43asobhnd49mg1@4ax.com,, Alberich at
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 16:18:39 GMT, "Andrealphus"
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:50:40 GMT, "Andrealphus"
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In News 8aad22128bg2goujgd6bcclh8pndv8hjco@4ax.com,, Alberich at
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:07:00 GMT, "Andrealphus"
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:15:53 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News mpidnUrr6sxsv7vZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:

God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect


Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!


What do you think? He threw the money changers out of his
Father's House for desecrating it.


Yet, he didn't beat them with a baseball bat.


What does a burglar deserve?


Who are you to judge?


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than
that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


He is certainly better able to judge than you.


No, he is not.


Remember that the
thief on the cross acknowledged that they were getting what
they deserved.


Yet, he went to heaven.


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than
that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


Indeed he did but he first paid the penalty for being a
thief-the penalty was death.


He paid a penalty after his trial, and conviction. Not by a
godless mob with baseball bats.


Yeah, you're right. They may have had the wrong man. It was
probably Santa Claus coming to restore all that was taken.

Alberich


Whether it was the wrong man or not, you don't beat people with
baseball bats. Anyone for a silent alarm on the window, or is
that too much to ask from religionists? Of course, they probably
enjoyed beating the man. Some church.


I agree with the basic point. But I think you go about it the wrong
way, making it sound like there was any doubt that the man they beat
after he broke into the Church may not have been the man that broke
into the Church...

Alberich


You're a police officer. You get a call to a local church and when
you enter you see six men with baseball bats and a half dead man
lying on the floor. The five men with bats say that the guy on the
floor broke in through the window. The young man manages to stammer
out that the men dragged him in through the door and beat him, then
broke the window himself.

Who do you arrest?

Did you even bother to ask the beaten man what happened?

Who is lying?


I'm telling you, I agree with you--they shouldn't have beaten the guy.
Although I think it's highly unlikely that these guys dragged some
random guy off the street to beat.

Agreed, but until you get the case into court, the guy on the ground is as
innocent as the guys with the bats. Of course, my scenario didn't mention
that the guy was random. One of the guys may not have liked him for one
reason or another.
Another scenario...
You're a police officer. You attend a church that you get a call to go to.
When you arrive, there are five men with baseball bats standing over a dead
body, whom the five men claim was a burgler who climb through the window.
There is no sign that the man on the floor was armed.
Does anyone get arrested?
I know that you agree that they shouldn't have beat the man, but I'm trying
to illustrate why this sort of vigilanti justice never has been "justice".
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
.
User: "Alberich"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 26 Mar 2006 01:51:09 PM
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:32:39 GMT, "Andrealphus"
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In News n1qd22ljt88b2spi7dup43asobhnd49mg1@4ax.com,, Alberich at
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 16:18:39 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News eded22t9mfc52bbbva5qj5rav915cgtmhk@4ax.com,, Alberich at
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:50:40 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News 8aad22128bg2goujgd6bcclh8pndv8hjco@4ax.com,, Alberich at
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:07:00 GMT, "Andrealphus"
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:15:53 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News mpidnUrr6sxsv7vZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:

God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect


Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!


What do you think? He threw the money changers out of his
Father's House for desecrating it.


Yet, he didn't beat them with a baseball bat.


What does a burglar deserve?


Who are you to judge?


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than
that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


He is certainly better able to judge than you.


No, he is not.


Remember that the
thief on the cross acknowledged that they were getting what
they deserved.


Yet, he went to heaven.


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than
that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


Indeed he did but he first paid the penalty for being a
thief-the penalty was death.


He paid a penalty after his trial, and conviction. Not by a
godless mob with baseball bats.


Yeah, you're right. They may have had the wrong man. It was
probably Santa Claus coming to restore all that was taken.

Alberich


Whether it was the wrong man or not, you don't beat people with
baseball bats. Anyone for a silent alarm on the window, or is
that too much to ask from religionists? Of course, they probably
enjoyed beating the man. Some church.


I agree with the basic point. But I think you go about it the wrong
way, making it sound like there was any doubt that the man they beat
after he broke into the Church may not have been the man that broke
into the Church...

Alberich


You're a police officer. You get a call to a local church and when
you enter you see six men with baseball bats and a half dead man
lying on the floor. The five men with bats say that the guy on the
floor broke in through the window. The young man manages to stammer
out that the men dragged him in through the door and beat him, then
broke the window himself.

Who do you arrest?

Did you even bother to ask the beaten man what happened?

Who is lying?


I'm telling you, I agree with you--they shouldn't have beaten the guy.
Although I think it's highly unlikely that these guys dragged some
random guy off the street to beat.


Agreed, but until you get the case into court, the guy on the ground is as
innocent as the guys with the bats. Of course, my scenario didn't mention
that the guy was random. One of the guys may not have liked him for one
reason or another.

Another scenario...

You're a police officer. You attend a church that you get a call to go to.
When you arrive, there are five men with baseball bats standing over a dead
body, whom the five men claim was a burgler who climb through the window.
There is no sign that the man on the floor was armed.

Does anyone get arrested?

I know that you agree that they shouldn't have beat the man, but I'm trying
to illustrate why this sort of vigilanti justice never has been "justice".

Of course they should all get arrested. Under Tennessee v. Garner,
even police can't always use life-threatening force--why should these
guys?
I see your point--but all I meant to say is that there is probably
little doubt in that set of people's minds that the guy they beat is
the guy that broke in that same night (as he was caught in the act).
Doesn't make it right, but at least that portion of doubt is removed.
Alberich
.
User: "Andrealphus"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 26 Mar 2006 01:53:49 PM
In News 6mrd229t13t73o2qdipssb4qt5ht9n1hb3@4ax.com,, Alberich at
Alberich@NoSpam.com, typed this:

On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:32:39 GMT, "Andrealphus"
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In News n1qd22ljt88b2spi7dup43asobhnd49mg1@4ax.com,, Alberich at
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 16:18:39 GMT, "Andrealphus"
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In News eded22t9mfc52bbbva5qj5rav915cgtmhk@4ax.com,, Alberich at
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:50:40 GMT, "Andrealphus"
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In News 8aad22128bg2goujgd6bcclh8pndv8hjco@4ax.com,, Alberich at
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:07:00 GMT, "Andrealphus"
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:15:53 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News mpidnUrr6sxsv7vZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:

God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect


Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!


What do you think? He threw the money changers out of his
Father's House for desecrating it.


Yet, he didn't beat them with a baseball bat.


What does a burglar deserve?


Who are you to judge?


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because
if there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason
than that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


He is certainly better able to judge than you.


No, he is not.


Remember that the
thief on the cross acknowledged that they were getting what
they deserved.


Yet, he went to heaven.


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than
that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


Indeed he did but he first paid the penalty for being a
thief-the penalty was death.


He paid a penalty after his trial, and conviction. Not by a
godless mob with baseball bats.


Yeah, you're right. They may have had the wrong man. It was
probably Santa Claus coming to restore all that was taken.

Alberich


Whether it was the wrong man or not, you don't beat people with
baseball bats. Anyone for a silent alarm on the window, or is
that too much to ask from religionists? Of course, they probably
enjoyed beating the man. Some church.


I agree with the basic point. But I think you go about it the
wrong way, making it sound like there was any doubt that the man
they beat after he broke into the Church may not have been the
man that broke into the Church...

Alberich


You're a police officer. You get a call to a local church and when
you enter you see six men with baseball bats and a half dead man
lying on the floor. The five men with bats say that the guy on
the floor broke in through the window. The young man manages to
stammer out that the men dragged him in through the door and beat
him, then broke the window himself.

Who do you arrest?

Did you even bother to ask the beaten man what happened?

Who is lying?


I'm telling you, I agree with you--they shouldn't have beaten the
guy. Although I think it's highly unlikely that these guys dragged
some random guy off the street to beat.


Agreed, but until you get the case into court, the guy on the ground
is as innocent as the guys with the bats. Of course, my scenario
didn't mention that the guy was random. One of the guys may not
have liked him for one reason or another.

Another scenario...

You're a police officer. You attend a church that you get a call to
go to. When you arrive, there are five men with baseball bats
standing over a dead body, whom the five men claim was a burgler who
climb through the window. There is no sign that the man on the floor
was armed.

Does anyone get arrested?

I know that you agree that they shouldn't have beat the man, but I'm
trying to illustrate why this sort of vigilanti justice never has
been "justice".


Of course they should all get arrested. Under Tennessee v. Garner,
even police can't always use life-threatening force--why should these
guys?

I see your point--but all I meant to say is that there is probably
little doubt in that set of people's minds that the guy they beat is
the guy that broke in that same night (as he was caught in the act).
Doesn't make it right, but at least that portion of doubt is removed.

Alberich

It's got to be more than clear in those men's minds though, it's got to be
provable in court. Sure, they beat the crap out of him, but will he get
jail time?
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson
.



User: "Bonnie Bitch"

Title: Re: Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect 26 Mar 2006 10:57:36 PM
On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:15:49 GMT, the faaaaabulous supreme deity
Tlahuizcalpantecuhtli, Ruler of the heavens and host of fab parties,
opened the heavens and shone his light upon the wisdom of Alberich
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 16:18:39 GMT, "Andrealphus"
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:07:00 GMT, "Andrealphus"
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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 05:15:53 GMT, "Andrealphus"
<NOREALEMAIL11@THISADDRESS.FOAD> wrote:

In News mpidnUrr6sxsv7vZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@giganews.com,, J
Young at youngopinions@aol.com, typed this:

God bless them!!


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/pbccentral/content/local_news/epaper/2006/03/25/m1a_Church_0325.html

Fed-up church members stand guard, beat suspect


Yeah, nice... What would Jesus do? LOL!


What do you think? He threw the money changers out of his
Father's House for desecrating it.


Yet, he didn't beat them with a baseball bat.


What does a burglar deserve?


Who are you to judge?


--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be one, he must more approve the homage of reason than
that of blindfolded fear. - Thomas Jefferson


He is certainly better able to judge than you.


No, he is not.


Remember that the
thief on the cross acknowledged that they were getting what they
deserved.


Yet, he went to heaven.


--