Religions > Atheism > Fellow atheists, we must tear down the wall between church and state
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25 Jun 2007 07:41:14 PM |
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Fellow atheists, we must tear down the wall between church and state |
In his book religious literacy
http://www.amazon.com/Religious-Literacy-American-Know-Doesnt/dp/0060846704/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-1896486-2118233?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1182818152&sr=8-1
The author is a Christian, and states that in Austria where religion
is shoved down the students throats, belief is almost non existent. In
America were belief is 90 percent, the average Christian is unable to
name the Four Gospels or the Twelve Apostles. They need to know
Christianity to reject it.
Lets start spoon feeding it two them.
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| User: "ike milligan" |
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| Title: Re: Fellow atheists, we must tear down the wall between church and state |
25 Jun 2007 10:59:30 PM |
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"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1182818474.460742.74130@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
In his book religious literacy
http://www.amazon.com/Religious-Literacy-American-Know-Doesnt/dp/0060846704/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-1896486-2118233?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1182818152&sr=8-1
The author is a Christian, and states that in Austria where religion
is shoved down the students throats, belief is almost non existent. In
America were belief is 90 percent, the average Christian is unable to
name the Four Gospels or the Twelve Apostles. They need to know
Christianity to reject it.
Lets start spoon feeding it two them.
Since you are an atheist you have no say in the matter.
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| User: "Eris" |
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| Title: Re: Fellow atheists, we must tear down the wall between church and state |
26 Jun 2007 08:39:37 AM |
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On Jun 25, 11:59 pm, "ike milligan" <accordion...@mindspring.com>
wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1182818474.460742.74130@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...> In his book religious literacy
http://www.amazon.com/Religious-Literacy-American-Know-Doesnt/dp/0060...
The author is a Christian, and states that in Austria where religion
is shoved down the students throats, belief is almost non existent. In
America were belief is 90 percent, the average Christian is unable to
name the Four Gospels or the Twelve Apostles. They need to know
Christianity to reject it.
Lets start spoon feeding it two them.
Since you are an atheist you have no say in the matter.
Doesn't the pope give marital advice?
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| User: "skyeyes" |
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| Title: Re: Fellow atheists, we must tear down the wall between church and state |
13 Jul 2007 06:12:33 PM |
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On Jun 26, 6:39 am, Eris <vith...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 25, 11:59 pm, "ike milligan" <accordion...@mindspring.com>
wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1182818474.460742.74130@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...> In his book religious literacy
http://www.amazon.com/Religious-Literacy-American-Know-Doesnt/dp/0060...
The author is a Christian, and states that in Austria where religion
is shoved down the students throats, belief is almost non existent. In
America were belief is 90 percent, the average Christian is unable to
name the Four Gospels or the Twelve Apostles. They need to know
Christianity to reject it.
Lets start spoon feeding it two them.
Since you are an atheist you have no say in the matter.
Doesn't the pope give marital advice?
Nose. Cranberry juice. Ow.
Brenda Nelson, A.A.#34
EAC Professor of Feline Thermometrics and Cat-Herding
skyeyes at dakotacom dot net
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Fellow atheists, we must tear down the wall between church and state |
18 Jul 2007 03:10:00 PM |
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On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 16:12:33 -0700, skyeyes <skyeyes@dakotacom.net>
wrote in alt.atheism
On Jun 26, 6:39 am, Eris <vith...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 25, 11:59 pm, "ike milligan" <accordion...@mindspring.com>
wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1182818474.460742.74130@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...> In his book religious literacy
http://www.amazon.com/Religious-Literacy-American-Know-Doesnt/dp/0060...
The author is a Christian, and states that in Austria where religion
is shoved down the students throats, belief is almost non existent. In
America were belief is 90 percent, the average Christian is unable to
name the Four Gospels or the Twelve Apostles. They need to know
Christianity to reject it.
Lets start spoon feeding it two them.
Since you are an atheist you have no say in the matter.
Doesn't the pope give marital advice?
Nose. Cranberry juice. Ow.
Wince.
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Fellow atheists, we must tear down the wall between church and state |
26 Jun 2007 08:46:51 AM |
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 06:39:37 -0700, Eris <vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 25, 11:59 pm, "ike milligan" <accordion...@mindspring.com>
wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1182818474.460742.74130@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...> In his book religious literacy
http://www.amazon.com/Religious-Literacy-American-Know-Doesnt/dp/0060...
The author is a Christian, and states that in Austria where religion
is shoved down the students throats, belief is almost non existent. In
America were belief is 90 percent, the average Christian is unable to
name the Four Gospels or the Twelve Apostles. They need to know
Christianity to reject it.
Lets start spoon feeding it two them.
Since you are an atheist you have no say in the matter.
Doesn't the pope give marital advice?
Does the pope ***** in the woods?
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| User: "ike milligan" |
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| Title: Re: Fellow atheists, we must tear down the wall between church and state |
28 Jun 2007 10:34:01 PM |
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"Christopher A.Lee" <calee@optonline.net> wrote in message
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 06:39:37 -0700, Eris <vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
On Jun 25, 11:59 pm, "ike milligan" <accordion...@mindspring.com>
wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1182818474.460742.74130@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...> In his book
religious literacy
http://www.amazon.com/Religious-Literacy-American-Know-Doesnt/dp/0060...
The author is a Christian, and states that in Austria where religion
is shoved down the students throats, belief is almost non existent. In
America were belief is 90 percent, the average Christian is unable to
name the Four Gospels or the Twelve Apostles. They need to know
Christianity to reject it.
Lets start spoon feeding it two them.
Since you are an atheist you have no say in the matter.
Doesn't the pope give marital advice?
Does the pope ***** in the woods?
Snap, crackle, and poop.
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| User: "JessHC" |
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| Title: Re: Fellow atheists, we must tear down the wall between church and state |
26 Jun 2007 10:11:09 AM |
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ike milligan wrote:
"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1182818474.460742.74130@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
In his book religious literacy
http://www.amazon.com/Religious-Literacy-American-Know-Doesnt/dp/0060846704/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-1896486-2118233?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1182818152&sr=8-1
The author is a Christian, and states that in Austria where religion
is shoved down the students throats, belief is almost non existent. In
America were belief is 90 percent, the average Christian is unable to
name the Four Gospels or the Twelve Apostles. They need to know
Christianity to reject it.
Lets start spoon feeding it two them.
Since you are an atheist you have no say in the matter.
Why do you say that?
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| User: "Eris" |
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| Title: Re: Fellow atheists, we must tear down the wall between church and state |
26 Jun 2007 03:16:58 PM |
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On Jun 26, 11:11 am, JessHC <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
ike milligan wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1182818474.460742.74130@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
In his book religious literacy
http://www.amazon.com/Religious-Literacy-American-Know-Doesnt/dp/0060...
The author is a Christian, and states that in Austria where religion
is shoved down the students throats, belief is almost non existent. In
America were belief is 90 percent, the average Christian is unable to
name the Four Gospels or the Twelve Apostles. They need to know
Christianity to reject it.
Lets start spoon feeding it two them.
Since you are an atheist you have no say in the matter.
Why do you say that?
I have a valid point, his head has a point. As a fundy, he can't
attack my position so he attacks me. Remember when they were attacking
Clinton and we were suppose to deal with the accusations and not the
accuser?
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| User: "ike milligan" |
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| Title: Re: Fellow atheists, we must tear down the wall between church and state |
28 Jun 2007 10:34:02 PM |
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"Eris" <vithant@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1182889018.524255.9160@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 26, 11:11 am, JessHC <jes...@phantomemail.com> wrote:
ike milligan wrote:
"Eris" <vith...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1182818474.460742.74130@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com...
In his book religious literacy
http://www.amazon.com/Religious-Literacy-American-Know-Doesnt/dp/0060...
The author is a Christian, and states that in Austria where religion
is shoved down the students throats, belief is almost non existent.
In
America were belief is 90 percent, the average Christian is unable to
name the Four Gospels or the Twelve Apostles. They need to know
Christianity to reject it.
Lets start spoon feeding it two them.
Since you are an atheist you have no say in the matter.
Why do you say that?
I have a valid point, his head has a point. As a fundy, he can't
attack my position so he attacks me. Remember when they were attacking
Clinton and we were suppose to deal with the accusations and not the
accuser?
Who's a fundy?
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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| Title: Re: Fellow atheists, we must tear down the wall between church and state |
25 Jun 2007 10:21:12 PM |
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Eris:
Lets start spoon feeding it two them.
Hehe - where do I sign up as volunteer helper? ;)
Was it Asimov who said "properly read, the bible is the atheist's best tool
against religion" (or something similar)? 8)
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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25 Jun 2007 11:07:58 PM |
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"Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" <MAILTOsecretary@carcosa.de> wrote in message
news:f5q1af$hn$2@online.de...
Eris:
Lets start spoon feeding it two them.
Hehe - where do I sign up as volunteer helper? ;)
Was it Asimov who said "properly read, the bible is the atheist's best
tool
against religion" (or something similar)? 8)
But, getting Christians to actually read the Bible
is the real trick. They prefer having others read
selections to them and doing their thinking for
them.
--
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
When fascism comes to America, it will be
wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross -
Sinclair Lewis
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| User: "johac" |
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26 Jun 2007 06:23:07 PM |
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In article <cLGdnXMzLuOODB3bnZ2dnUVZ_uOmnZ2d@comcast.com>,
"Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote:
"Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" <MAILTOsecretary@carcosa.de> wrote in message
news:f5q1af$hn$2@online.de...
Eris:
Lets start spoon feeding it two them.
Hehe - where do I sign up as volunteer helper? ;)
Was it Asimov who said "properly read, the bible is the atheist's best
tool
against religion" (or something similar)? 8)
But, getting Christians to actually read the Bible
is the real trick. They prefer having others read
selections to them and doing their thinking for
them.
Just as with scientific articles, they 'quote mine' only those tidbits
which support their particular point of view and ignore any that oppose
it.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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26 Jun 2007 10:17:27 PM |
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johac:
Just as with scientific articles, they 'quote mine' only those tidbits
which support their particular point of view and ignore any that oppose
it.
And it's always hilarious how they go ballistic when you shove their noses
into the truth.
(Some time ago, an online friend's son was tasked to select a babble verse
to read in front of the whole class - in Sunday school I trust - and chose
one of the... graphical verses from the song of songs...
Preacher: "You were supposed to quote DA BABBLE and not a filthy porn book!"
Son: *shows preacher the exact verse in da babble*
Preacher: *catapults son out of class for good*
Remember kids, you don't wanna go to Sunday school no more, this is how you
do it *eg* )
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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| User: "johac" |
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26 Jun 2007 11:36:10 PM |
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In article <f5slmc$7ck$7@online.de>,
"Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" <MAILTOsecretary@carcosa.de> wrote:
johac:
Just as with scientific articles, they 'quote mine' only those tidbits
which support their particular point of view and ignore any that oppose
it.
And it's always hilarious how they go ballistic when you shove their noses
into the truth.
(Some time ago, an online friend's son was tasked to select a babble verse
to read in front of the whole class - in Sunday school I trust - and chose
one of the... graphical verses from the song of songs...
Preacher: "You were supposed to quote DA BABBLE and not a filthy porn book!"
Son: *shows preacher the exact verse in da babble*
Preacher: *catapults son out of class for good*
Remember kids, you don't wanna go to Sunday school no more, this is how you
do it *eg* )
LOL! I think your friend's son learned something. Too bad that Preacher
didn't.
--
John #1782
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be
white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- Saint Ignatius Loyola (1491-1556) Founder of the Jesuit Order.
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| User: "Medusa" |
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| Title: Re: Fellow atheists, we must tear down the wall between church and state |
27 Jun 2007 04:18:41 PM |
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On Jun 26, 10:17 pm, "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
<MAILTOsecret...@carcosa.de> wrote:
And it's always hilarious how they go ballistic when you shove their noses
into the truth.
(Some time ago, an online friend's son was tasked to select a babble verse
to read in front of the whole class - in Sunday school I trust - and chose
one of the... graphical verses from the song of songs...
Preacher: "You were supposed to quote DA BABBLE and not a filthy porn book!"
Son: *shows preacher the exact verse in da babble*
Preacher: *catapults son out of class for good*
LOL! I got yelled at by a Sunday school teacher when I was about 10.
We were supposed to read the story of Lot and Soddam and Gomorrah
(probably spelled it wrong, but too bad), but only to up to a certain
point in the story. I was bored and read on to the point where Lot's
daughters get him drunk and seduce him.
I couldn't believe what I was reading, and I urged the other kids to
read it.
And then I got bitched out for reading the bible! Priceless.
Medusa
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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27 Jun 2007 09:49:08 PM |
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Medusa:
...And then I got bitched out for reading the bible! Priceless.
It's always the same, ain't it? *eg*
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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25 Jun 2007 11:41:50 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, "Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
bloodied us up with this:
"Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" <MAILTOsecretary@carcosa.de> wrote in
message news:f5q1af$hn$2@online.de...
Eris:
Lets start spoon feeding it two them.
Hehe - where do I sign up as volunteer helper? ;)
Was it Asimov who said "properly read, the bible is the atheist's
best tool
against religion" (or something similar)? 8)
But, getting Christians to actually read the Bible
is the real trick. They prefer having others read
selections to them and doing their thinking for
them.
Most go to church on Sunday to see their friends in suits and ties and talk
about yesterday's ventures on the golf course, or the antique store,
whichever your gender prefers. Some even get interested in the sermon.
Most own a bible, and keep it on the bookshelf at home, and you're right,
98% have never opened it.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: Fellow atheists, we must tear down the wall between church and state |
26 Jun 2007 12:42:57 AM |
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"Uncle Vic" <address@withheld.com> wrote in message
news:Xns995ADCC0D5FDBvicman@216.196.97.142...
One fine day in alt.atheism, "Michelle Malkin" <hypatiab7@comcast.net>
bloodied us up with this:
"Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" <MAILTOsecretary@carcosa.de> wrote in
message news:f5q1af$hn$2@online.de...
Eris:
Lets start spoon feeding it two them.
Hehe - where do I sign up as volunteer helper? ;)
Was it Asimov who said "properly read, the bible is the atheist's
best tool
against religion" (or something similar)? 8)
But, getting Christians to actually read the Bible
is the real trick. They prefer having others read
selections to them and doing their thinking for
them.
Most go to church on Sunday to see their friends in suits and ties and
talk
about yesterday's ventures on the golf course, or the antique store,
whichever your gender prefers. Some even get interested in the sermon.
Most own a bible, and keep it on the bookshelf at home, and you're right,
98% have never opened it.
I have three bibles that I use to eviscerate fundies
from time to time. The last time one of them said
that something wasn't in the bible, I typed out the
entire section about Moses seeing God's tuchis. The
fundy didn't have the courtesy to write back and
admit that he was wrong. They're like that.
--
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
When fascism comes to America, it will be
wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross -
Sinclair Lewis
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Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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| User: "Stan-O" |
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| Title: Re: Fellow atheists, we must tear down the wall between church and state |
26 Jun 2007 05:39:19 AM |
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On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:41:50 -0500, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
But, getting Christians to actually read the Bible
is the real trick. They prefer having others read
selections to them and doing their thinking for
them.
Most go to church on Sunday to see their friends in suits and ties and talk
about yesterday's ventures on the golf course, or the antique store,
whichever your gender prefers. Some even get interested in the sermon.
Most own a bible, and keep it on the bookshelf at home, and you're right,
98% have never opened it.
The irony is that atheists know the bible better than what most
Christians do.
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| User: "stoney" |
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13 Jul 2007 05:33:32 PM |
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 06:39:19 -0400, Stan-O <lctaht@ungo.com> wrote in
alt.atheism
On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:41:50 -0500, Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com>
wrote:
But, getting Christians to actually read the Bible
is the real trick. They prefer having others read
selections to them and doing their thinking for
them.
Most go to church on Sunday to see their friends in suits and ties and talk
about yesterday's ventures on the golf course, or the antique store,
whichever your gender prefers. Some even get interested in the sermon.
Most own a bible, and keep it on the bookshelf at home, and you're right,
98% have never opened it.
The irony is that atheists know the bible better than what most
Christians do.
Usually because atheists were Christians who did read the rubbish work.
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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| User: "Medusa" |
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| Title: Re: Fellow atheists, we must tear down the wall between church and state |
26 Jun 2007 06:11:06 PM |
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On Jun 25, 10:21 pm, "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
<MAILTOsecret...@carcosa.de> wrote:
Was it Asimov who said "properly read, the bible is the atheist's best tool
against religion" (or something similar)? 8)
I'm not sure who said it, but it's so true! Most people who thump the
bible never read it. They get bits and pieces of it fed to them at
church.
I've read the bible completely through at least twice. Some of the
stories in it are downright immoral.
Medusa aka Brindal
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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26 Jun 2007 10:13:40 PM |
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Medusa:
I've read the bible completely through at least twice. Some of the
stories in it are downright immoral.
Umm... no.
"Immoral" doesn't even _begin_ to describe the monstrous inhumanity in da
wholly babble. *eg*
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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| Title: Re: Fellow atheists, we must tear down the wall between church and state |
26 Jun 2007 11:11:17 PM |
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"Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" <MAILTOsecretary@carcosa.de> wrote in message
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Medusa:
I've read the bible completely through at least twice. Some of the
stories in it are downright immoral.
Umm... no.
Ummm, yes. How about dashing babies' heads on rocks,
slicing open pregnant women, murdering a man and a
woman simply because they belonged to different groups,
having a bear kill a bunch of kids for insulting a bald man,
your god hardening Pharoah's heart deliberately when he
was ready to let the Hebrews go, a father offering his own
daughter to a sex-mad crowd, wiping out the population
of entire towns and cities, except for the virgin girls who
were to be kept as sex slaves. Oh, yeah, and how about
Abraham allowing a Pharaoh and a king to marry his wife
Sarah(probably two versions of the same story) just so
his god would punish them and they'd have to pay off
Abraham to stop the punishment? If you haven't read these
sections of the bible, then you haven't read your own bible.
"Immoral" doesn't even _begin_ to describe the monstrous inhumanity in da
wholly babble. *eg*
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"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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27 Jun 2007 12:48:05 PM |
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Michelle Malkin:
I've read the bible completely through at least twice. Some of the
stories in it are downright immoral.
Umm... no.
Ummm, yes. How about [list snipped]
Umm, Michelle, you _did_ read on after that little tidbit of me you quoted,
no?
Quoting myself just to make sure you don't miss it:
"Immoral" doesn't even _begin_ to describe the monstrous inhumanity in da
wholly babble. *eg*
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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27 Jun 2007 03:36:36 PM |
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"Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" <MAILTOsecretary@carcosa.de> wrote in message
news:f5u8ut$6ul$3@online.de...
Michelle Malkin:
I've read the bible completely through at least twice. Some of the
stories in it are downright immoral.
Umm... no.
Ummm, yes. How about [list snipped]
Umm, Michelle, you _did_ read on after that little tidbit of me you
quoted,
no?
My response was to the person who wrote "Umm... no."
It was directly after their comment. The list was for his
benefit.
Quoting myself just to make sure you don't miss it:
"Immoral" doesn't even _begin_ to describe the monstrous inhumanity in da
wholly babble. *eg*
Right. I totally agree with you. Watch the attributions.
--
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
When fascism comes to America, it will be
wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross -
Sinclair Lewis
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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27 Jun 2007 09:47:34 PM |
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Michelle Malkin:
My response was to the person who wrote "Umm... no."
It was directly after their comment. The list was for his
benefit.
Well, that _was_ me ;)
Right. I totally agree with you. Watch the attributions.
:)
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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| User: "" |
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27 Jun 2007 03:58:36 PM |
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On Jun 27, 1:36 pm, "Michelle Malkin" <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:
"Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" <MAILTOsecret...@carcosa.de> wrote in messagenews:f5u8ut$6ul$3@online.de...
Michelle Malkin:
I've read the bible completely through at least twice. Some of the
stories in it are downright immoral.
Umm... no.
Ummm, yes. How about [list snipped]
Umm, Michelle, you _did_ read on after that little tidbit of me you
quoted,
no?
My response was to the person who wrote "Umm... no."
It was directly after their comment. The list was for his
benefit.
It's the same person who wrote the comment after it which you agreed
with. You got a bit confused by reading "Umm... no" out of context.
Everyone who posted to this sub-thread basically agrees with Medusa,
including Thurisaz, you, and me.
Quoting myself just to make sure you don't miss it:
"Immoral" doesn't even _begin_ to describe the monstrous inhumanity in da
wholly babble. *eg*
Right. I totally agree with you. Watch the attributions.
--
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
When fascism comes to America, it will be
wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross -
Sinclair Lewis
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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27 Jun 2007 04:05:40 PM |
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<chan.fonseka@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1182977916.390081.133290@a26g2000pre.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 27, 1:36 pm, "Michelle Malkin" <hypati...@comcast.net> wrote:
"Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" <MAILTOsecret...@carcosa.de> wrote in
messagenews:f5u8ut$6ul$3@online.de...
Michelle Malkin:
I've read the bible completely through at least twice. Some of the
stories in it are downright immoral.
Umm... no.
Ummm, yes. How about [list snipped]
Umm, Michelle, you _did_ read on after that little tidbit of me you
quoted,
no?
My response was to the person who wrote "Umm... no."
It was directly after their comment. The list was for his
benefit.
It's the same person who wrote the comment after it which you agreed
with. You got a bit confused by reading "Umm... no" out of context.
Everyone who posted to this sub-thread basically agrees with Medusa,
including Thurisaz, you, and me.
Okay, but the attributions were changed.
Quoting myself just to make sure you don't miss it:
"Immoral" doesn't even _begin_ to describe the monstrous inhumanity in
da
wholly babble. *eg*
Right. I totally agree with you. Watch the attributions.
--
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
When fascism comes to America, it will be
wrapped in the flag and carrying a cross -
Sinclair Lewis
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| User: "stoney" |
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13 Jul 2007 06:10:57 PM |
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On Wed, 27 Jun 2007 16:36:36 -0400, "Michelle Malkin"
<hypatiab7@comcast.net> wrote in alt.atheism
"Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" <MAILTOsecretary@carcosa.de> wrote in message
news:f5u8ut$6ul$3@online.de...
Michelle Malkin:
I've read the bible completely through at least twice. Some of the
stories in it are downright immoral.
Umm... no.
Ummm, yes. How about [list snipped]
Umm, Michelle, you _did_ read on after that little tidbit of me you
quoted,
no?
My response was to the person who wrote "Umm... no."
It was directly after their comment. The list was for his
benefit.
Medusa:
I've read the bible completely through at least twice. Some of the
stories in it are downright immoral.
Message-ID: <f5slmc$7ck$8@online.de>
Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian
Umm... no.
Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian
"Immoral" doesn't even _begin_ to describe the monstrous inhumanity in
da wholly babble. *eg*
Quoting myself just to make sure you don't miss it:
"Immoral" doesn't even _begin_ to describe the monstrous inhumanity in da
wholly babble. *eg*
Right. I totally agree with you. Watch the attributions.
He did.
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Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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| User: "stoney" |
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13 Jul 2007 06:07:20 PM |
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On Tue, 26 Jun 2007 16:11:06 -0700, Medusa <Medusa4303@yahoo.com> wrote
in alt.atheism
On Jun 25, 10:21 pm, "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian"
<MAILTOsecret...@carcosa.de> wrote:
Was it Asimov who said "properly read, the bible is the atheist's best tool
against religion" (or something similar)? 8)
I'm not sure who said it, but it's so true! Most people who thump the
bible never read it. They get bits and pieces of it fed to them at
church.
I've read the bible completely through at least twice. Some of the
stories in it are downright immoral.
The whole damn thing is monsterous.
--
Atheist n A person to be pitied in that he is
unable to believe things for which there is
no evidence, and who has thus deprived himself of
a convenient means of feeling superior to others.
—Chaz Bufe, The American Heretic’s Dictionary
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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26 Jun 2007 04:27:00 PM |
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In article <1182818474.460742.74130@n2g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
Eris <vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
The author is a Christian, and states that in Austria where religion
is shoved down the students throats, belief is almost non existent. In
America were belief is 90 percent, the average Christian is unable to
name the Four Gospels or the Twelve Apostles.
You ever watch "The Simpsons" episode where Homer goes to hell? They put
him in a chair for the ironic punishment of force feeding im donuts for
eternity. He confounds Satan by being perfectly happy with the
arrangment and demabding as many donuts as can be supplied.
I expect that if America turned around and started force-feeding the
kids an official religion -- assuming it was more or less what they find
at church -- they'd be happy as clams and demand as much religion in
school as they could manage. I know they would, here in NC, at least...
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "The Rev Dr. Hugh Jarse NLAHN." |
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26 Jun 2007 06:58:57 AM |
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On Jun 26, 1:41 am, Eris <vith...@gmail.com> wrote:
In his book religious literacyhttp://www.amazon.com/Religious-Literacy-American-Know-Doesnt/dp/0060...
The author is a Christian, and states that in Austria where religion
is shoved down the students throats, belief is almost non existent. In
America were belief is 90 percent, the average Christian is unable to
name the Four Gospels or the Twelve Apostles. They need to know
Christianity to reject it.
Lets start spoon feeding it two them.
It certainly works here in the UK, where RE is compulsory, as is daily
worship in schools, and "god-botherer" is a common term of endearment.
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| User: "duke" |
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26 Jun 2007 05:54:10 PM |
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On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:41:14 -0700, Eris <vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
In his book religious literacy
http://www.amazon.com/Religious-Literacy-American-Know-Doesnt/dp/0060846704/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-1896486-2118233?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1182818152&sr=8-1
The author is a Christian, and states that in Austria where religion
is shoved down the students throats, belief is almost non existent. In
America were belief is 90 percent, the average Christian is unable to
name the Four Gospels or the Twelve Apostles. They need to know
Christianity to reject it.
We live Christianity. We don't verbalize it.
Oh, and btw, Catholics know who is credited with the 4 gospels. The
protest_ants spend all their time in the OT. They for the most part don't even
know the NT exists.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "duke" |
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26 Jun 2007 05:54:44 PM |
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On Mon, 25 Jun 2007 17:41:14 -0700, Eris <vithant@gmail.com> wrote:
Lets start spoon feeding it two them.
Yeah, why don't you spoon feed it "two" us.
duke, American-American
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"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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