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"Clayton Cant Find His Left Sock" |
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19 May 2004 01:47:59 AM |
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Finally....Something Worth Worshipping! |
http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/entertainment/previewsandreviews/tm_objectid=14118562&method=full&siteid=50061&headline=-blasphemy--outrage-as-cathedral-used-in-ad-name_page.htm
'Blasphemy' outrage as Cathedral used in ad Apr 5 2004
By Louise Davies Daily Post Staff
AN ADVERTISING campaign featuring a "crucified" semi-naked model with
Liverpool RC Metropolitan Cathedral in the background has sparked anger
amongst the city's religious leaders.
The image, which is promoting a new range of designer T-shirts, has been
condemned as "blasphemous".
The photograph features former Page 3 model Debbie Turpin, 23, on a cross
with Liverpool's Roman Catholic Cathedral in the background and bears the
caption "Don't sacrifice your style".
Liverpool-born model Ms Turpin is covered by just a T-shirt printed with the
logo and her tortured facial expression has been described as reminiscent of
the controversial Mel Gibson movie, The Passion Of The Christ.
The photograph, which was commissioned by Chester-based internet fashion
company bdbx, can be seen on the firm's website www.bdbx.com
Monsignor Peter Cookson, Roman Catholic dean of Liverpool Metropolitan
Cathedral, said: "It's bad taste, disrespectful and, if you are a believer,
it is blasphemous.
"People think they can do anything they like with religious imagery these
days and I'm upset that anybody should be using a distasteful picture like
this, with our cathedral in the background, to sell their products.
"The boundaries of what's acceptable to use to sell goods has drawn back,
but I have never seen anything as outrageous as this, certainly not
something which uses our building.
"The cross is a recognised Christian symbol and it is very tasteless.
"We would certainly not give anyone permission to take a photograph like
this outside the cathedral.
"But I doubt if there is any law preventing this, so it seems there is not
much we can do about it. But it is very distressing."
Monsignor Cookson was backed by Church of England Canon Anthony Hawley.
He said: "It is a shameless marketing ploy. It is nearly Easter and this is
in very poor taste.
"It should be a time of reflection and great joy at the resurrection of
Christ and this is appalling, it is outrageous.
"It is something that we would like to see removed from the website."
Council leaders said the stunt was an attempt to cash in on Liverpool's
Culture City status.
Cllr Warren Bradley, executive member for Leisure & Tourism, said: I'm
disgusted. It is Easter and we should be reflecting on Christ's teachings.
We are celebrating the Year of Faith in Liverpool and we don't want to be
associated with this type of image.
"It's not something we will be supporting as a city. We are the European
Capital of Culture and there are so many good things going on in the city.
"This is not something we want to be associated with.
"It is just rank commercialism at its worst."
Bdbx was set up by 20-year-old fashion designer Alec Stacey who said he
stands by the campaign.
He added: "This fashion range is all about youth culture, being in your
face, not being afraid to break the rules and challenging convention.
"The photograph reflects the rebellious nature of youth culture and I think
the young people who see it will understand where we are coming from.
Liverpool's the city of culture and bdbx is about youth culture and I
thought it was appropriate."
http://www.fleshbot.com/archives/crucifixion_porno_chic_014740.php
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| User: "Holly the Heretic" |
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| Title: Re: Finally....Something Worth Worshipping! |
19 May 2004 02:02:29 PM |
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On Wed, 19 May 2004 16:47:59 +1000, "Clayton Can't Find His Left Sock"
<cjfat@BLOCKINGOFTHESPAMphonyemail.com> wrote:
"People think they can do anything they like with religious imagery these
days and I'm upset that anybody should be using a distasteful picture like
this, with our cathedral in the background, to sell their products.
It's not half as distasteful as the horrendous and downright spooky
statue of a man nailed to a cross, in full colour complete with blood
and gore, that decorates on of the local catholic churches here. Why
is it OK for them to use disturbing imagery to promote their products,
but not for other people to do so?
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Finally....Something Worth Worshipping! |
22 May 2004 01:38:41 PM |
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On Wed, 19 May 2004 19:02:29 +0000 (UTC), Holly the Heretic
<nowhere@nowhere.org>, Message ID:
<kqbna05ak20g0dg5oed339bqbpc7idel8j@4ax.com> wrote in alt.atheism;
On Wed, 19 May 2004 16:47:59 +1000, "Clayton Can't Find His Left Sock"
<cjfat@BLOCKINGOFTHESPAMphonyemail.com> wrote:
"People think they can do anything they like with religious imagery these
days and I'm upset that anybody should be using a distasteful picture like
this, with our cathedral in the background, to sell their products.
It's not half as distasteful as the horrendous and downright spooky
statue of a man nailed to a cross, in full colour complete with blood
and gore, that decorates on of the local catholic churches here. Why
is it OK for them to use disturbing imagery to promote their products,
but not for other people to do so?
Standard xtian hypocracy. Death and eternal torture must be worshipped
and items of love and beauty are 'evil.'
Some words from a young lady you might enjoy;
What do I dislike about theism?...Let me count the ways...
I dislike the hypocrisy,
the corruption,
the greed
and the lies.
I dislike the veneration of ignorance,
the glorification of idiocy,
the wild-eyed hatred of progress
and the fear of education, which send the faithful shrieking,
vampire-like, from the light of knowledge.
I dislike the way in which prejudice
is passed off as piety.
The way superstition is peddled as wisdom.
The way intolerance is raised to the lofty heights
of "Truth".
I dislike how hatred is taught as love,
how fear is instilled as kindness,
how slavery is pressed as freedom,
and how contempt for life is dressed up and adored as spirituality.
I dislike the shackles religions place on the mind,
corrupting, twisting and crushing the spirit
until the believer has been brought down to a suitable state
of worthlessness.
So lost and self-loathing, so bereft of hope or pride,
that they can look into the hallucinated face of their imaginary
oppressor
and feel unbounded love and gratitude for the additional suffering
it has declined,
as yet,
to visit upon them.
I dislike people's need for a communal delusion,
like drug addicts who unite just to share the same needle.
I dislike the way reason is reviled as a vice
and reality is decreed to be a matter of convenience.
The way common sense and ordinary human decency
get re-named "holy law" and advertised as the sole province
of the faithful.
I dislike religions' wholesale theft of any number
of ancient mythologies,
only to turn around and proclaim
how "unique" their doctrine is.
I dislike how intelligence is held as suspect
and inquiry is reviled as a high crime.
I dislike the pillaging of the impoverished,
the extortion of the gullible,
the manipulation of the ignorant
and the domination of the weak.
I dislike the invention of sins
for the satisfaction of those who desire to punish.
I dislike the demonization of unbelievers,
The ill-concealed hate of proselytizers,
The hysterical rants of holy rollers,
The wigged-out warnings of psychic healers,
The dismantling of public education via religious school vouchers,
The erosion of civil rights by theocratic right-wingers,
The righteous wrath of gun-toting true believers,
The destruction wrought by holy warriors,
The blood-drenched fatwas of ayatollas,
and the apocalyptic prophesies of unmedicated messiahs.
Most of all, though, I dislike the certain knowledge
that religion,
in one grotesque form or other,
will be with us so long as there is a single dark, cobwebbed corner
of the human imagination
that a believer can stuff a god into.
Alikhat
#757
Stoney
"Designated Rascal and Rapscallion
and
SCAMPERMEISTER!"
When in doubt, SCAMPER about!
When things are fair, SCAMPER everywhere!
When things are rough, can't SCAMPER enough!
/end humour alert
alt.atheism military veteran #11
{so much for the 'no atheists in foxholes' rubbish}
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