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09 Jul 2007 05:36:43 PM |
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Finding Myself |
Recently I think I have found myself and I am curious of what you
people think of my way of life. My lifes philsoy is that during life
we must grow your relationship with God, on a more personal level. I
do not think huge, "mainstream" religions like Christianity are the
answer. I wrote on my blog "...if Jesus loves me, why does he punish
me for searching for god, shouldn't he be happy that I am taking time
to look all over for other views of God? If I'm shopping for a TV what
is the point of just stopping at the first store buying the TV without
even thinking or caring about the other TVs or other stores that may
sell TVs?"
http://mysearchesfortruth.blogspot.com/
Does anybody see my point? I mean if god wants us to follow him why
does he punish us for searching and learning the ways and ideas of
other religions? Well anyways does anybody understand what I am
saying? I am here for your input, thoughts, and to share my own
thoughts of god with people that may be lost like I was.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Finding Myself |
12 Jul 2007 09:35:18 AM |
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On 10 jul, 00:36, TheHeartOfAHero <ADigitalCrimi...@Goowy.com> wrote:
Recently I think I have found myself and I am curious of what you
people think of my way of life. My lifes philsoy is that during life
we must grow your relationship with God, on a more personal level. I
do not think huge, "mainstream" religions like Christianity are the
answer. I wrote on my blog "...if Jesus loves me, why does he punish
me for searching for god, shouldn't he be happy that I am taking time
to look all over for other views of God? If I'm shopping for a TV what
is the point of just stopping at the first store buying the TV without
even thinking or caring about the other TVs or other stores that may
sell TVs?"http://mysearchesfortruth.blogspot.com/
Does anybody see my point? I mean if god wants us to follow him why
does he punish us for searching and learning the ways and ideas of
other religions? Well anyways does anybody understand what I am
saying? I am here for your input, thoughts, and to share my own
thoughts of god with people that may be lost like I was.
You feel you must grow a relationship with God, and you post this to
those who do not think God exists? You may have found yourself, but
you do ont seem to have found you senses!
I am not only an atheists but also a materialist, that is I think all
substance is material and the spiritual is nothing more than the
working of the brain.
So whatever you think is God is just something in you brain.
The best thing in the brain that humans have to serve as a guide
trough life, is - I think - their consience.
Not real a Creator of heaven and earth, but it knows all about you and
it tells you what to do and what no to do.
So the best advice I give you is to follow your conscience.
I hope you have a good one.
Mine tells me to try and help you, but it doesn't tell me how.
A conscience is not allmighty you know.
O yes, and remember it will not provide what is best for you
it will tell you what is the right thing, period.
If an allmighty god exists that wants me to believe in him, I will
I don't so he doesn't
Hope that puts your mind at rest.
Go and look at all things and talk to all people,
and try and learn as much as you can!
Peter van Velzen
July 2007
Amstelveen
The Netherlands
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| User: "Richo" |
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| Title: Re: Finding Myself |
10 Jul 2007 07:42:24 AM |
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On Jul 10, 8:36 am, TheHeartOfAHero <ADigitalCrimi...@Goowy.com>
wrote:
Recently I think I have found myself and I am curious of what you
people think of my way of life. My lifes philsoy is that during life
we must grow your relationship with God, on a more personal level.
Atheists don't believe in a god - not even one called God.
I don't have a relationship with God I don't want to have a
relationship with God.
I want to be as aware of reality as I can and dont want to be decieved
by illusions and delusions.
I
do not think huge, "mainstream" religions like Christianity are the
answer. I wrote on my blog "...if Jesus loves me, why does he punish
me for searching for god, shouldn't he be happy that I am taking time
to look all over for other views of God? If I'm shopping for a TV what
is the point of just stopping at the first store buying the TV without
even thinking or caring about the other TVs or other stores that may
sell TVs?"http://mysearchesfortruth.blogspot.com/
Does anybody see my point? I mean if god wants us to follow him why
does he punish us for searching and learning the ways and ideas of
other religions? Well anyways does anybody understand what I am
saying?
It's possible but I certainly don't.
It's all gibberish to me.
I am here for your input, thoughts, and to share my own
thoughts of god with people that may be lost like I was.
I think you are in the wrong place.
Cheers, Mark.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Finding Myself |
09 Jul 2007 08:26:28 PM |
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On Jul 9, 6:36 pm, TheHeartOfAHero <ADigitalCrimi...@Goowy.com> wrote:
Recently I think I have found myself and I am curious of what you
people think of my way of life. My lifes philsoy is that during life
we must grow your relationship with God, on a more personal level.
I could not disagree more.
I
do not think huge, "mainstream" religions like Christianity are the
answer. I wrote on my blog "...if Jesus loves me, why does he punish
me for searching for god, shouldn't he be happy that I am taking time
to look all over for other views of God? If I'm shopping for a TV what
is the point of just stopping at the first store buying the TV without
even thinking or caring about the other TVs or other stores that may
sell TVs?"http://mysearchesfortruth.blogspot.com/
Consider this. Perhaps you're stressing out over nothing. Have you not
noticed that the universe goes whirring on as if gods do not exist?
Personally, I no longer care whether they do or not. It is not
important whether or not gods exist.
Does anybody see my point? I mean if god wants us to follow him why
does he punish us for searching and learning the ways and ideas of
other religions?
Define "punishment". If you mean the mental agony of doubting
something you've believed your entire life, that's not gods-it's
normal human emotion. You're about to make a major change in your
life, and it's not a comfortable place to be in.
Well anyways does anybody understand what I am
saying? I am here for your input, thoughts, and to share my own
thoughts of god with people that may be lost like I was.
You were polite, until this last paragraph. Allow me to explain why
the insult it contains is so large. I am not "lost" because I do not
believe in gods. In fact, my discovery of the lack of them is the best
thing that ever happened to me. You should really have thought this
out better before you posted here. You admit in the first part of your
post that your own "thoughts of god" are causing you anguish. You then
wish to share them with me? You wish *I* had the self-inflicted wound
you have? Madness. You have a disease that causes you pain. To end the
pain, cure the disease. Humans have created hundreds of thousands of
god beliefs. Simply running from one to the next will not cure you.
God-belief is like the common cold-they mutate so quickly that all you
can do is treat the symptoms. Wouldn't it be better to simply be virus-
free?
-Panama Floyd, Atlanta.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
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| User: "Uncle Vic" |
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| Title: AQOTM NOMINATION (was Re: Finding Myself) |
09 Jul 2007 10:31:46 PM |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, bloodied us up with
this:
In response to:
Well anyways does anybody understand what I am
saying? I am here for your input, thoughts, and to share my own
thoughts of god with people that may be lost like I was.
Panama Floyd replied:
You were polite, until this last paragraph. Allow me to explain why
the insult it contains is so large. I am not "lost" because I do not
believe in gods. In fact, my discovery of the lack of them is the best
thing that ever happened to me. You should really have thought this
out better before you posted here. You admit in the first part of your
post that your own "thoughts of god" are causing you anguish. You then
wish to share them with me? You wish *I* had the self-inflicted wound
you have? Madness. You have a disease that causes you pain. To end the
pain, cure the disease. Humans have created hundreds of thousands of
god beliefs. Simply running from one to the next will not cure you.
God-belief is like the common cold-they mutate so quickly that all you
can do is treat the symptoms. Wouldn't it be better to simply be virus-
free?
Beautiful. Seconds?
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department.
Convicted by Earthquack.
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| User: "Meteorite Debris" |
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| Title: Re: AQOTM NOMINATION (was Re: Finding Myself) |
09 Jul 2007 11:57:22 PM |
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Last time that great scribe Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> chipped
away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
One fine day in alt.atheism, bloodied us up with
this:
In response to:
Well anyways does anybody understand what I am
saying? I am here for your input, thoughts, and to share my own
thoughts of god with people that may be lost like I was.
Panama Floyd replied:
You were polite, until this last paragraph. Allow me to explain why
the insult it contains is so large. I am not "lost" because I do not
believe in gods. In fact, my discovery of the lack of them is the best
thing that ever happened to me. You should really have thought this
out better before you posted here. You admit in the first part of your
post that your own "thoughts of god" are causing you anguish. You then
wish to share them with me? You wish *I* had the self-inflicted wound
you have? Madness. You have a disease that causes you pain. To end the
pain, cure the disease. Humans have created hundreds of thousands of
god beliefs. Simply running from one to the next will not cure you.
God-belief is like the common cold-they mutate so quickly that all you
can do is treat the symptoms. Wouldn't it be better to simply be virus-
free?
Beautiful. Seconds?
Yes. Seconded.
--
Remove both YOUR_SHOES before replying
apatriot #1, atheist #1417,
Chief EAC prophet
Jason Gastrich is praying for me on 8 January 2009
Apatriotism Yahoo Group
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/apatriotism
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make
you commit atrocities." - Voltaire
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| User: "*nemo*" |
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| Title: Re: AQOTM NOMINATION (was Re: Finding Myself) |
17 Jul 2007 03:57:30 AM |
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In article <MPG.20fdb5b8343ef8fb989818@news.ade.connect.com.au>,
Meteorite Debris <epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote:
Last time that great scribe Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> chipped
away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
One fine day in alt.atheism, bloodied us up with
this:
In response to:
Well anyways does anybody understand what I am
saying? I am here for your input, thoughts, and to share my own
thoughts of god with people that may be lost like I was.
Panama Floyd replied:
You were polite, until this last paragraph. Allow me to explain why
the insult it contains is so large. I am not "lost" because I do not
believe in gods. In fact, my discovery of the lack of them is the best
thing that ever happened to me. You should really have thought this
out better before you posted here. You admit in the first part of your
post that your own "thoughts of god" are causing you anguish. You then
wish to share them with me? You wish *I* had the self-inflicted wound
you have? Madness. You have a disease that causes you pain. To end the
pain, cure the disease. Humans have created hundreds of thousands of
god beliefs. Simply running from one to the next will not cure you.
God-belief is like the common cold-they mutate so quickly that all you
can do is treat the symptoms. Wouldn't it be better to simply be virus-
free?
Beautiful. Seconds?
Yes. Seconded.
Recorded.
--
Nemo - EAC Commissioner for Bible Belt Underwater Operations.
Atheist #1331 (the Palindrome of doom!)
BAAWA Knight! - One of those warm Southern Knights, y'all!
Charter member, SMASH!!
http://home.earthlink.net/~jehdjh/Relpg.html
Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus
Quotemeister since March 2002
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: AQOTM NOMINATION (was Re: Finding Myself) |
10 Jul 2007 04:15:53 AM |
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:27:22 +0930, Meteorite Debris
<epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote:
Last time that great scribe Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> chipped
away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
One fine day in alt.atheism, bloodied us up with
this:
In response to:
Well anyways does anybody understand what I am
saying? I am here for your input, thoughts, and to share my own
thoughts of god with people that may be lost like I was.
Panama Floyd replied:
You were polite, until this last paragraph. Allow me to explain why
the insult it contains is so large. I am not "lost" because I do not
believe in gods. In fact, my discovery of the lack of them is the best
thing that ever happened to me. You should really have thought this
out better before you posted here. You admit in the first part of your
post that your own "thoughts of god" are causing you anguish. You then
wish to share them with me? You wish *I* had the self-inflicted wound
you have? Madness. You have a disease that causes you pain. To end the
pain, cure the disease. Humans have created hundreds of thousands of
god beliefs. Simply running from one to the next will not cure you.
God-belief is like the common cold-they mutate so quickly that all you
can do is treat the symptoms. Wouldn't it be better to simply be virus-
free?
Beautiful. Seconds?
Yes. Seconded.
Thirded.
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| User: "jem" |
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| Title: Re: AQOTM NOMINATION (was Re: Finding Myself) |
10 Jul 2007 03:15:50 PM |
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:45:53 +0930, Michael Gray
<mikegray@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:27:22 +0930, Meteorite Debris
<epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote:
Last time that great scribe Uncle Vic <address@withheld.com> chipped
away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
One fine day in alt.atheism, bloodied us up with
this:
In response to:
Well anyways does anybody understand what I am
saying? I am here for your input, thoughts, and to share my own
thoughts of god with people that may be lost like I was.
Panama Floyd replied:
You were polite, until this last paragraph. Allow me to explain why
the insult it contains is so large. I am not "lost" because I do not
believe in gods. In fact, my discovery of the lack of them is the best
thing that ever happened to me. You should really have thought this
out better before you posted here. You admit in the first part of your
post that your own "thoughts of god" are causing you anguish. You then
wish to share them with me? You wish *I* had the self-inflicted wound
you have? Madness. You have a disease that causes you pain. To end the
pain, cure the disease. Humans have created hundreds of thousands of
god beliefs. Simply running from one to the next will not cure you.
God-belief is like the common cold-they mutate so quickly that all you
can do is treat the symptoms. Wouldn't it be better to simply be virus-
free?
Beautiful. Seconds?
Yes. Seconded.
Thirded.
Fourthed
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: AQOTM NOMINATION (was Re: Finding Myself) |
13 Jul 2007 04:56:09 PM |
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On Jul 10, 4:15 pm, jem <A0054...@airmail.net> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 18:45:53 +0930, Michael Gray
<mikeg...@newsguy.com> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 14:27:22 +0930, Meteorite Debris
<epicurusboth@YOUR_SHOESaapt.net.au> wrote:
Last time that great scribe Uncle Vic <addr...@withheld.com> chipped
away at his/her stone these gems of wisdom for posterity ...
One fine day in alt.atheism, bloodied us up with
this:
In response to:
Well anyways does anybody understand what I am
saying? I am here for your input, thoughts, and to share my own
thoughts of god with people that may be lost like I was.
PanamaFloydreplied:
You were polite, until this last paragraph. Allow me to explain why
the insult it contains is so large. I am not "lost" because I do not
believe in gods. In fact, my discovery of the lack of them is the best
thing that ever happened to me. You should really have thought this
out better before you posted here. You admit in the first part of your
post that your own "thoughts of god" are causing you anguish. You then
wish to share them with me? You wish *I* had the self-inflicted wound
you have? Madness. You have a disease that causes you pain. To end the
pain, cure the disease. Humans have created hundreds of thousands of
god beliefs. Simply running from one to the next will not cure you.
God-belief is like the common cold-they mutate so quickly that all you
can do is treat the symptoms. Wouldn't it be better to simply be virus-
free?
Beautiful. Seconds?
Yes. Seconded.
Thirded.
Fourthed
Wow! Thanks, guys!
-PF, Atl.
aa#2015/KoBAAWA!
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| User: "Thurisaz, Germanic barbarian" |
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10 Jul 2007 01:21:39 PM |
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Uncle Vic:
Beautiful. Seconds?
Let me add a theist's honorary second to the ones you already got :)
--
"To his friend a man a friend shall prove, and gifts with gifts requite;
But men shall mocking with mockery answer, and fraud with falsehood meet."
(The Poetic Edda)
Must have been written with fundies in mind...
My personal judgment of monotheism:
http://www.carcosa.de/nojebus
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| User: "Hatter" |
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10 Jul 2007 06:21:50 AM |
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On Jul 9, 6:36 pm, TheHeartOfAHero <ADigitalCrimi...@Goowy.com> wrote:
Recently I think I have found myself and I am curious of what you
people think of my way of life. My lifes philsoy is that during life
we must grow your relationship with God, on a more personal level. I
do not think huge, "mainstream" religions like Christianity are the
answer. I wrote on my blog "...if Jesus loves me, why does he punish
me for searching for god, shouldn't he be happy that I am taking time
to look all over for other views of God? If I'm shopping for a TV what
is the point of just stopping at the first store buying the TV without
even thinking or caring about the other TVs or other stores that may
sell TVs?"http://mysearchesfortruth.blogspot.com/
Does anybody see my point? I mean if god wants us to follow him why
does he punish us for searching and learning the ways and ideas of
other religions? Well anyways does anybody understand what I am
saying? I am here for your input, thoughts, and to share my own
thoughts of god with people that may be lost like I was.
I think you are young and egotistical. Look at your Nym. You don't
want the truth, you want a lie. However, you have enough of a clue to
be able to recognize the baldfaced lies of organized religion but
don't want to face up to there being no "higher purpose" or "eternal
life." I was as the same spot, intellectually and emotionally, at age
17, and even at age 38 I still occasionally feel the same way. The
truth, that there is no God, no karma, nothing beyond the physical may
suck, but that does not stop it from being the truth.
Hatter
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| User: "V" |
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09 Jul 2007 05:57:59 PM |
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On Jul 9, 6:36 pm, TheHeartOfAHero <ADigitalCrimi...@Goowy.com> wrote:
Recently I think I have found myself and I am curious of what you
people think of my way of life. My lifes philsoy is that during life
we must grow your relationship with God, on a more personal level. I
do not think huge, "mainstream" religions like Christianity are the
answer. I wrote on my blog "...if Jesus loves me, why does he punish
me for searching for god, shouldn't he be happy that I am taking time
to look all over for other views of God? If I'm shopping for a TV what
is the point of just stopping at the first store buying the TV without
even thinking or caring about the other TVs or other stores that may
sell TVs?"http://mysearchesfortruth.blogspot.com/
Does anybody see my point? I mean if god wants us to follow him why
does he punish us for searching and learning the ways and ideas of
other religions? Well anyways does anybody understand what I am
saying? I am here for your input, thoughts, and to share my own
thoughts of god with people that may be lost like I was.
Thanks for your post.
Yes, we all need a higher power or our ego gets in the way doesn't it.
All we have to do is look towards our atheists friends that are their
own higher power to see how things develop.
See:
http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=509.0
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.atheism/browse_frm/thread/125b41aa8fd2b87b/cf400bdf88ba1701?lnk=gst&q=conundrum&rnum=7&hl=en#cf400bdf88ba1701
People have this image of God as the great punisher.
Look towards the God of Nature and the God if Inner Peace for the
answer to a higher power...if you wish to be at peace.
See:
http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=504.0
The truth stands on it own and does not need massaging for it to be
true.
To get at the truth, all we need is test through practical
application.
We can even 'Test God' though such means if you can detach your 'blind
faith' and replace it with a 'rational mind' for a moment.
I'm sure God wont mind if you ask a few question?
Would God send you to hell for just inquiring as to his goodness?
Only an evil God would do such a thing...right?
Would you send another human to everlasting torture just for asking a
question?
How much more good is God than you or I - so don't be worried as long
'your true vision of God' is as 'you imagine' God to be...all
loving..all good.
I don't believe God is evil or good. I just believe the Hebrews
created the myth of Yahweh their God and they injected their own human
shortcomings into the story.
So this evil is just a projection of man's evil when they have no
inner peace and are ego based with hate.
But if I am wrong and such a God Yahweh does exist, I will have to let
Yahweh go and take my lumps as it would not be a God that I wish to
worship as such a God would defy the meaning of love, peace and
humanity.
Is my evaluation of Yahweh arbitrary? Yes, it is subjective, just as
yours is, but if we look to the 'God of Peace' and the 'God of
Nature,' we can find some answers that will help us clarify the
concepts of God as they have been handed down to us.
Would God like the 'golden rule of reciprocity' applied to it?
Would God like being drug out of heaven with fishhooks to stand trial
for war crimes against man?
"Behold, the days are coming upon you When they will take you away
with meat hooks, And the last of you with fish hooks. "You will go
out {through} breaches {in the walls,} Each one straight before her,
And you will be cast to Harmon," declares the LORD. Amos 4:1-3 NAS
Or would god like to make the trip to court in a cushy limo with an
angel by his side for company?
It is very easy to find the truth - all we have to do is apply some
humanity to the problem.
But humans are trained to not think when it comes to God and just
believe, just believe and just believe...for blind faith is the only
way that such delusions can hold up...the devotee must be mentally
blind.
Any animal on the planet would not be so cruel as God is portrayed in
the OT, even the God of Nature does not discriminate against man and
is neutral.
Whenever you think evaluations of evil are arbitrary, apply test such
as; flourishing of the species and universal application to get at the
truth. If we extend our actions to universality and those actions that
destroy our species, they are generally are wrong, No species other
than humans work to destroy themselves.
Would the 'ideal' of a perfect, all loving God approve of the Hebrew
and Christian God Yahweh?
No, the ideal of God would not approve of God if the old testament is
a true accounting of Yahweh.
The evidence shows that the God of the monotheists as written in the
bible is a man made story, whether it is the story of Jesus or the God
Yahweh of the Hebrews.
I write this after being a Catholic for 50+ years. What caused my
change in heart about God? Was it God's refusal to answer a self
centered prayer...No. Was it all the evil in the world...No. My change
in heart with my belief in God came from 'real study' of the dogma and
the books claimed to be the written words of God with a desire to get
closer to God. But, the more I studied, the further from God my
studies took me. But this is only a by product of the study of truth,
for if the study leads to a certain direction one must follow it, if
one is truth based. And if one is not truth based one makes up fantasy
and excuses and lives a delusional life.
If we look at logical and philosophical arguments for God they add up
to zero as each one of these arguments can be argued for or against
God
Ontological Argument +
Ontological Argument (--)
Cosmological Argument +
Cosmological Argument (--)
Teleological Argument +
Teleological Argument (--)
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Total = ZERO
As such, we need to look deeper into what the various religions of the
monotheist say to find the truth. There are four books claiming to be
the word of God. they are the Old Testament, New Testament, Qur'an and
the Book of Mormon. (OT, NT, Q and BOM) All these books conflict, yet
all claim to be the perfect word of God? Why doesn't God make clear
which one of these books to follow so there is no misunderstanding?
After all, a mistake in direction yield everlasting torture in hell?
Since God wont answer, we will have to answer for God by asking some
questions to get at the truth that God was invented by man. In short
we will judge God by the ideals of God. Then we can see clearly these
words of God were not written by an all perfect and all loving, all
good God but were just written by men claiming to be God.
Some religious advocates say it is presumptuous of anyone to 'judge'
God. But, such persons also judge God when they say God is good? In
order to judge something good it must still be judged? From my
studies, I have judged God as a creation or fantasy of man's mind and
a God that would refuse to tell the direction for a person to take and
then take joy in torturing that person for a mistake that the person
could not avoid is definitely bad.
God was no always so silent with direction. If we go back to the OT we
can see God communicated extensively with the Hebrews. God directed
them specifically with how to design and build things and how to
worship him through burnt offerings and penance. God was very detailed
with his directions about unclean women during menses and how the
Hebrews should keep their slaves. All quotes courtesy of http://www.evilbible.com/
(BTW, they banned me from their forums...so much for freethinkers.)
"When a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod so hard that
the slave dies under his hand, he shall be punished. If, however, the
slave survives for a day or two, he is not to be punished, since the
slave is his own property." Exodus 21:20-21
God approving of slavery? God not approving of the Egyptians keeping
slaves yet is OK for the Hebrews to keep slaves? Again not a perfect
God. If we read further we will see God very bigoted and condemning of
all other nationalities except his chosen people the Hebrews. What
makes the world think such a bigoted God would accept them when God
had such hatred for others he supposedly created?
If we go to more modern times and the Christian dogma where God
offered his son to be tortured and killed in order for God to forgive
our sins? What do we do when we forgive another? Do we kill our son or
daughter or just forgive? How much more a perfect God could have just
forgiven us without killing his son? But God seemed to emphasize the
killing children in his words to his faithful as we can see in these
OT quotes.
"Then I heard the LORD say to the other men, "Follow him through the
city and kill everyone whose forehead is not marked. Show no mercy;
have no pity! Kill them all - old and young, girls and women and
little children. But do not touch anyone with the mark. Begin your
task right here at the Temple." So they began by killing the seventy
leaders. "Defile the Temple!" the LORD commanded. "Fill its courtyards
with the bodies of those you kill! Go!" So they went throughout the
city and did as they were told." Ezekiel 9:5-7
"The glory of Israel will fly away like a bird, for your children will
die at birth or perish in the womb or never even be conceived. Even
if your children do survive to grow up, I will take them from you. It
will be a terrible day when I turn away and leave you alone. I have
watched Israel become as beautiful and pleasant as Tyre. But now
Israel will bring out her children to be slaughtered." O LORD, what
should I request for your people? I will ask for wombs that don't
give birth and breasts that give no milk. The LORD says, "All their
wickedness began at Gilgal; there I began to hate them. I will drive
them from my land because of their evil actions. I will love them no
more because all their leaders are rebels. The people of Israel are
stricken. Their roots are dried up; they will bear no more fruit.
And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children."
Hosea 9:11-16
"Suppose a man has a stubborn, rebellious son who will not obey his
father or mother, even though they discipline him. In such cases, the
father and mother must take the son before the leaders of the town.
They must declare: 'This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious and
refuses to obey. He is a worthless drunkard.' Then all the men of the
town must stone him to death. In this way, you will cleanse this evil
from among you, and all Israel will hear about it and be afraid."
Deuteronomy 21:18-21
What happened to this vocal God that seemed to die with the authors
of the Old Testament, for no one ever hears a peep from God? Did God
die with the writers? BTW, if God was a perfect designer, should he
have not made women 'unclean' and not have menses and that way God
could have saved some breath and cut his 600+ commandants to the
Hebrew down by one? See: http://members.ozemail.com.au/~adamgosp/otcomm.htm
God even commanded the people how to bake bread, (with human
excrement) discriminate against the handicapped, kill the faithful of
other religions and how much money to pay to rape young women.
Each day prepare your bread as you would barley cakes. While all the
people are watching, bake it over a fire using dried human dung as
fuel and then eat the bread. For this is what the LORD says: "Israel
will eat defiled bread in the Gentile lands, where I will banish
them!" Then I said, "O Sovereign LORD, must I be defiled by using
human dung? For I have never been defiled before. From the time I was
a child until now I have never eaten any animal that died of sickness
or that I found dead. And I have never eaten any of the animals that
our laws forbid." "All right," the LORD said. "You may bake your
bread with cow dung instead of human dung." Ezekiel 4:12-15
"No one whose testicles have been crushed or whose penis has been cut
off may be admitted into the community of the Lord." Deuteronomy
23:2
"If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not
engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he
must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never
be allowed to divorce her." Deuteronomy 22:28-29
"If your own full brother, or your son or daughter, or your beloved
wife, or you intimate friend, entices you secretly to serve other
gods, whom you and your fathers have not known, gods of any other
nations, near at hand or far away, from one end of the earth to the
other: do not yield to him or listen to him, nor look with pity upon
him, to spare or shield him, but kill him. Your hand shall be the
first raised to slay him; the rest of the people shall join in with
you. You shall stone him to death, because he sought to lead you
astray from the Lord, your God, who brought you out of the land of
Egypt, that place of slavery. And all Israel, hearing of this, shall
fear and never do such evil as this in your midst." Deuteronomy
13:7-12
Yes, the writers for God's word will be able to show you how the God
they claim to be perfect is not perfect and just an extension of
imperfect man's mind. If you read the bible with an open mind that is
logical and rational you will see this for yourself. It is only when
we make excuses for God that God is relieved from being a true God.
In the OT it says God is a 'jealous God' and requires worship.
"You shall not carve idols for yourselves in the shape of anything in
the sky above or on the earth below or in the waters beneath the
earth; you shall not bow down before them or worship them. For I, the
Lord, your God, am a jealous God, inflicting punishment for their
father's wickedness on the children of those who hate me, down to the
third and fourth generation" Exodus 20:4-5
Once someone 'requires' anything outside themselves the persons peace
will be disturbed. Yet the popular belief that God is perfect...the
two (jealousy and perfection) don't go together. In addition such a
God would not pass the peace test. If the God did not receive worship
the God's peace would be disturbed from having demands and not getting
those demands fulfilled. Then the God would have its peace disturbed
even further by torturing the person for everlasting eternity since
that person did not provide the worship the God demanded. Does all
this smack of a perfect being, perfectly at peace or just man
impersonating God
See:
http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=133.0
You see, many people do with religion and their religious fixations
the same as the compulsive gambler does with their fantasy.
Excerpt From: Gamblers Anonymous pamphlet "The dream world of a
compulsive gambler." A lot of time is spent creating images of great
and wonderful things they are going to do as soon as they make "the
big win."... No one can convince them that their great schemes will
not come true. They believe they will, for without this dream world,
life for them would not be tolerable.
The truth is that which does not change. Man made religion is always
changing. This phenomena of putting a spin on truth goes back to the
earliest formations of the church when it was voted on by presumptuous
individuals as to how to describe God and the trinity. You see it was
all voted on and the proponent that had the 'best spin' on it got the
credit for Nicene Creed. But in reality no one has a clew about this
subject. Want a modern day example of such spiritual sickness, spin
and lies?
"Roman Catholic Church Considers Abolishing Limbo Theory" A commission
that met at the Vatican last week is expected to recommend to Pope
Benedict XVI that the teaching of limbo be dropped. The Roman Catholic
Church may abolish the concept of limbo - the place some Catholics
believe the spirit of babies go if they die before being baptized
Snip from: http://www.christianpost.com/article/20051209/22492.htm
But it is impossible to have a rational discussion with most religious
devotees when they insist on irrationality as their first line of
defense. We are rational beings, logical beings, yet belief in God can
only come about through irrational, non logical thought. Would a God
that created rational, logical beings require such beings to follow
irrational fantasy in order to believe in him?
An example?
While discussing fossils and ancient coal with a Christian he claimed
that fossils and ancient coal are not really old and 'planted by the
devil' to trick people from believing in God? This also recalls the
book of Enoch, a book that was left out of the bible by the powers
that decided what went into it when it was first formed. This book
described many fantastic claims about how Eve was tricked by the devil
masquerading as an angel.
Would God create such subterfuge as planted fake fossils in order to
trick his loved ones only to condom them to burning and torture for
all eternity in hell because they cannot find out the rational and
logical truth? Yes, such an unjust God would if your God is that of a
sickly, delusional, religious devotee that believe is such fantasy.
Even when we discuss the story of Jesus, is it rational for God to
have to kill his only begotten son in order to forgive us? What do we
do when we forgive another? Do we kill our mother, son or daughter in
order to forgive another person? Yet, Christians cling to this
fantasy. Jesus was never born on December 25 and in fact there is no
evidence Jesus was ever born at all. Christians adopted Christmas from
the pagan December 25 holiday in order to promote their own agenda,
just as they did with Halloween.
For further discussion of the Jesus myth see:
http://www.vexen.co.uk/books/jesusmysteries.html
http://www.atheists.org/christianity/myth.html
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/fabrication.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_as_myth
http://home.ca.inter.net/~oblio/home.htm
http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/7748/106446
http://www.abc.net.au/religion/stories/s1517078.htm
http://www.atheist-community.org/library/articles/read.php?id=700
http://www.christianorigins.com/goguel/
http://www.bede.org.uk/price1.htm
http://www.objectivethought.com/atheism/jesusmyth.html
http://pages.ca.inter.net/~oblio/jesus.html
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/historicus/jesus.html
http://home.iae.nl/users/lightnet/creator/jesusmyth.htm
http://rationalrevolution.net/articles/origins_of_christianity.htm
"Theology is a superstition - Humanity is a religion" - Robert G.
Ingersol
BTW, what does work if all religion is created man made fantasy?
Just dropping God is not the answer for inner peace as this forum is
proof positive of that. With the multitude of spiritually sick
individuals here we can see humans need something in their life to
guide them to peace...at least it is so within our modern society of
sick complexities.
See my previous discussion of this topic of what does work:
http://jesusneverexisted.org/jne/forum/index.php?topic=4.0
Take care,
V (Male)
Agnostic Freethinker
Practical Philosopher
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09 Jul 2007 06:31:08 PM |
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"V" <vfr44@aol.com> wrotesnip
Thanks for your post.
Yes, we all need a higher power
Liar!
HO! <Whack!>
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Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
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10 Jul 2007 01:52:21 PM |
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HO! <whack!>
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09 Jul 2007 06:33:58 PM |
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On Jul 9, 3:57 pm, V <v...@aol.com> wrote:
On Jul 9, 6:36 pm, TheHeartOfAHero <ADigitalCrimi...@Goowy.com> wrote:
Recently I think I have found myself and I am curious of what you
people think of my way of life. My lifes philsoy is that during life
we must grow your relationship with God, on a more personal level. I
do not think huge, "mainstream" religions like Christianity are the
answer. I wrote on my blog "...if Jesus loves me, why does he punish
me for searching for god, shouldn't he be happy that I am taking time
to look all over for other views of God? If I'm shopping for a TV what
is the point of just stopping at the first store buying the TV without
even thinking or caring about the other TVs or other stores that may
sell TVs?"http://mysearchesfortruth.blogspot.com/
Does anybody see my point? I mean if god wants us to follow him why
does he punish us for searching and learning the ways and ideas of
other religions? Well anyways does anybody understand what I am
saying? I am here for your input, thoughts, and to share my own
thoughts of god with people that may be lost like I was.
Thanks for your post.
Ho! <whack!>
Just so no one gets the impression that you are the host of
alt.atheism.
Yes, we all need a higher power or our ego gets in the way doesn't it.
Ho! <whack!>
For your continual condescending inanity. What exactly do you have to
be condescending about? In case you don't recognize it, the squiggly
thing at the end of that sentence is a question mark. I'm telling you
this because you continually ignore questions. I'll repeat it. What
exactly do you have to be condescending about?
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09 Jul 2007 06:48:31 PM |
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:33:58 -0700, Neil Kelsey wrote:
On Jul 9, 3:57 pm, V <v...@aol.com> wrote:
On Jul 9, 6:36 pm, TheHeartOfAHero <ADigitalCrimi...@Goowy.com> wrote:
Recently I think I have found myself and I am curious of what you
people think of my way of life. My lifes philsoy is that during life
we must grow your relationship with God, on a more personal level. I
do not think huge, "mainstream" religions like Christianity are the
answer. I wrote on my blog "...if Jesus loves me, why does he punish
me for searching for god, shouldn't he be happy that I am taking time
to look all over for other views of God? If I'm shopping for a TV
what is the point of just stopping at the first store buying the TV
without even thinking or caring about the other TVs or other stores
that may sell TVs?"http://mysearchesfortruth.blogspot.com/
Does anybody see my point? I mean if god wants us to follow him why
does he punish us for searching and learning the ways and ideas of
other religions? Well anyways does anybody understand what I am
saying? I am here for your input, thoughts, and to share my own
thoughts of god with people that may be lost like I was.
Thanks for your post.
Ho! <whack!>
Just so no one gets the impression that you are the host of alt.atheism.
Yes, we all need a higher power or our ego gets in the way doesn't it.
Ho! <whack!>
For your continual condescending inanity. What exactly do you have to be
condescending about? In case you don't recognize it, the squiggly thing
at the end of that sentence is a question mark. I'm telling you this
because you continually ignore questions. I'll repeat it. What exactly
do you have to be condescending about?
I dunno but the sentence you quote back is one hell of a knee slapper.
The man's got a bigger ego than all the occupants of the alt.* hiearchy
combined...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"You know, I'd get it if people were just looking for a
way to fill the holes. But they want the holes. They wanna
live in the holes. And they go nuts when someone else
pours dirt in their holes.
"Climb out of your holes people!"
- Dr. House, on faith
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09 Jul 2007 08:08:16 PM |
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On Jul 9, 4:48 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:33:58 -0700, Neil Kelsey wrote:
On Jul 9, 3:57 pm, V <v...@aol.com> wrote:
On Jul 9, 6:36 pm, TheHeartOfAHero <ADigitalCrimi...@Goowy.com> wrote:
Recently I think I have found myself and I am curious of what you
people think of my way of life. My lifes philsoy is that during life
we must grow your relationship with God, on a more personal level. I
do not think huge, "mainstream" religions like Christianity are the
answer. I wrote on my blog "...if Jesus loves me, why does he punish
me for searching for god, shouldn't he be happy that I am taking time
to look all over for other views of God? If I'm shopping for a TV
what is the point of just stopping at the first store buying the TV
without even thinking or caring about the other TVs or other stores
that may sell TVs?"http://mysearchesfortruth.blogspot.com/
Does anybody see my point? I mean if god wants us to follow him why
does he punish us for searching and learning the ways and ideas of
other religions? Well anyways does anybody understand what I am
saying? I am here for your input, thoughts, and to share my own
thoughts of god with people that may be lost like I was.
Thanks for your post.
Ho! <whack!>
Just so no one gets the impression that you are the host of alt.atheism.
Yes, we all need a higher power or our ego gets in the way doesn't it.
Ho! <whack!>
For your continual condescending inanity. What exactly do you have to be
condescending about? In case you don't recognize it, the squiggly thing
at the end of that sentence is a question mark. I'm telling you this
because you continually ignore questions. I'll repeat it. What exactly
do you have to be condescending about?
I dunno but the sentence you quote back is one hell of a knee slapper.
The man's got a bigger ego than all the occupants of the alt.* hiearchy
combined...
It's fucking astonishing. Do you think he says stuff like that on
purpose? You know, where he claims to be the exact opposite of what he
actually is? It sometimes seems like he does it on purpose to rile
people up, but yet he doesn't seem conscious enough to do something
that complex.
Did you catch the post where he reveals he has ADD? That makes him an
egomaniacal "recovering" alcololic addict with ADD and a persecution
complex.
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09 Jul 2007 08:30:57 PM |
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 18:08:16 -0700, Neil Kelsey wrote:
On Jul 9, 4:48 pm, "Mark K. Bilbo" <g...@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 16:33:58 -0700, Neil Kelsey wrote:
On Jul 9, 3:57 pm, V <v...@aol.com> wrote:
On Jul 9, 6:36 pm, TheHeartOfAHero <ADigitalCrimi...@Goowy.com>
wrote:
Recently I think I have found myself and I am curious of what you
people think of my way of life. My lifes philsoy is that during
life we must grow your relationship with God, on a more personal
level. I do not think huge, "mainstream" religions like
Christianity are the answer. I wrote on my blog "...if Jesus loves
me, why does he punish me for searching for god, shouldn't he be
happy that I am taking time to look all over for other views of
God? If I'm shopping for a TV what is the point of just stopping
at the first store buying the TV without even thinking or caring
about the other TVs or other stores that may sell
TVs?"http://mysearchesfortruth.blogspot.com/
Does anybody see my point? I mean if god wants us to follow him
why does he punish us for searching and learning the ways and
ideas of other religions? Well anyways does anybody understand
what I am saying? I am here for your input, thoughts, and to share
my own thoughts of god with people that may be lost like I was.
Thanks for your post.
Ho! <whack!>
Just so no one gets the impression that you are the host of
alt.atheism.
Yes, we all need a higher power or our ego gets in the way doesn't
it.
Ho! <whack!>
For your continual condescending inanity. What exactly do you have to
be condescending about? In case you don't recognize it, the squiggly
thing at the end of that sentence is a question mark. I'm telling you
this because you continually ignore questions. I'll repeat it. What
exactly do you have to be condescending about?
I dunno but the sentence you quote back is one hell of a knee slapper.
The man's got a bigger ego than all the occupants of the alt.* hiearchy
combined...
It's fucking astonishing. Do you think he says stuff like that on
purpose? You know, where he claims to be the exact opposite of what he
actually is? It sometimes seems like he does it on purpose to rile
people up, but yet he doesn't seem conscious enough to do something that
complex.
His point is to rile people but I doubt it's conscious.
Did you catch the post where he reveals he has ADD? That makes him an
egomaniacal "recovering" alcololic addict with ADD and a persecution
complex.
Seems the only thing he has in his life is his persecution complex. He
works hard to be kicked out of groups and brags about how many have
booted him...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism,
because it is a merger of State and corporate power."
- Mussolini
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10 Jul 2007 09:43:59 AM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
snip
Seems the only thing he has in his life is his persecution complex. He
works hard to be kicked out of groups and brags about how many have
booted him...
Gee, what a wonderful thing to aspire to :P
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
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10 Jul 2007 02:40:28 PM |
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:43:59 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
snip
Seems the only thing he has in his life is his persecution complex. He
works hard to be kicked out of groups and brags about how many have
booted him...
Gee, what a wonderful thing to aspire to :P
He just bragged about a blog that threw him out.
Wonder if he keeps a big chart on the wall?
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Warned you we tried! Listen you did not! Now screwed
we will all be!"
http://www.sequentialpictures.com/moviestarwarsepisode3.html
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10 Jul 2007 02:53:56 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:VJ6dnbnHfJ0xfQ7bnZ2dnUVZ_sTinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:43:59 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
snip
Seems the only thing he has in his life is his persecution complex. He
works hard to be kicked out of groups and brags about how many have
booted him...
Gee, what a wonderful thing to aspire to :P
He just bragged about a blog that threw him out.
I know! I thought that was hilarious ;)
Wonder if he keeps a big chart on the wall?
Probably ;P
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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10 Jul 2007 04:01:51 PM |
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:53:56 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:VJ6dnbnHfJ0xfQ7bnZ2dnUVZ_sTinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:43:59 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
snip
Seems the only thing he has in his life is his persecution complex.
He works hard to be kicked out of groups and brags about how many
have booted him...
Gee, what a wonderful thing to aspire to :P
He just bragged about a blog that threw him out.
I know! I thought that was hilarious ;)
Wonder if he keeps a big chart on the wall?
Probably ;P
Ya know, if we all got together, put him on a rocket, and "banned" him
from the planet, he'd be ecstatic...
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"You believe in a book that has talking animals, wizards,
witches, demons, sticks turning into snakes, food falling
from the sky, people walking on water, and all sorts of magical,
absurd and primitive stories, and you say that *we* are the
ones that need help?" - Jon Stoll
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10 Jul 2007 04:21:35 PM |
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"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:VJ6dnafHfJ0ibg7bnZ2dnUVZ_sTinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:53:56 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:VJ6dnbnHfJ0xfQ7bnZ2dnUVZ_sTinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:43:59 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
snip
Seems the only thing he has in his life is his persecution complex.
He works hard to be kicked out of groups and brags about how many
have booted him...
Gee, what a wonderful thing to aspire to :P
He just bragged about a blog that threw him out.
I know! I thought that was hilarious ;)
Wonder if he keeps a big chart on the wall?
Probably ;P
Ya know, if we all got together, put him on a rocket, and "banned" him
from the planet, he'd be ecstatic...
Yes, I think that would be the pinnacle moment of his sad existence :P
--
Robyn
Resident Witchypoo
BAAWA Knight!
#1557
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Finding Myself |
10 Jul 2007 09:36:07 PM |
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On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:01:51 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo"
<gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:53:56 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:VJ6dnbnHfJ0xfQ7bnZ2dnUVZ_sTinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:43:59 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
snip
Seems the only thing he has in his life is his persecution complex.
He works hard to be kicked out of groups and brags about how many
have booted him...
Gee, what a wonderful thing to aspire to :P
He just bragged about a blog that threw him out.
I know! I thought that was hilarious ;)
Wonder if he keeps a big chart on the wall?
Probably ;P
Ya know, if we all got together, put him on a rocket, and "banned" him
from the planet, he'd be ecstatic...
I'm phoning NASA right away!
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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11 Jul 2007 09:21:14 AM |
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On Wed, 11 Jul 2007 12:06:07 +0930, Michael Gray wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 16:01:51 -0500, "Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo>
wrote:
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 15:53:56 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in message
news:VJ6dnbnHfJ0xfQ7bnZ2dnUVZ_sTinZ2d@giganews.com...
On Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:43:59 -0400, Robibnikoff wrote:
"Mark K. Bilbo" <gmail@com.mkbilbo> wrote in
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Seems the only thing he has in his life is his persecution complex.
He works hard to be kicked out of groups and brags about how many
have booted him...
Gee, what a wonderful thing to aspire to :P
He just bragged about a blog that threw him out.
I know! I thought that was hilarious ;)
Wonder if he keeps a big chart on the wall?
Probably ;P
Ya know, if we all got together, put him on a rocket, and "banned" him
from the planet, he'd be ecstatic...
I'm phoning NASA right away!
Them? Oh they'd get it wrong and he'd hit the sun or... something......
Here, I'll dial!
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Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"Come to think of it, there are already a million monkeys
on a million typewriters, and the Usenet is NOTHING
like Shakespeare!" - Blair Houghton
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: Finding Myself |
09 Jul 2007 08:47:51 PM |
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:57:59 -0700, V <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
Thanks
HO! <WHACK A DOODLE DOO>
Liz #658 BAAWA
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| User: "jem" |
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| Title: Re: Finding Myself |
10 Jul 2007 03:40:07 PM |
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:57:59 -0700, V <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
Thanks fo---
HO! <SCHMACK!>>
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Finding Myself |
09 Jul 2007 07:37:59 PM |
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:57:59 -0700, V <vfr44@aol.com> wrote:
Thanks for yo
HO! <whack!>
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"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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| Title: Re: Finding Myself |
09 Jul 2007 06:46:54 PM |
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:57:59 -0700, V wrote:
Yes
HO! <WHACK>
--
Mark K. Bilbo a.a. #1423
EAC Department of Linguistic Subversion
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"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace
alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing
it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
- H. L. Mencken
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| User: "Enkidu" |
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| Title: Re: Finding Myself |
09 Jul 2007 06:09:12 PM |
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V <vfr44@aol.com> wrote in news:1184021879.162524.146560
@o61g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:
Thanks for your . . .
Ho! <whack>
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Enkidu AA#2165
EAC Chaplain and ordained minister,
ULC, Modesto, CA
"'Just say no' has done as much for drugs and sex as 'have a nice day'
has for depression."
-Dr. E. Tyson
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| User: "Liz" |
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| Title: Re: Finding Myself |
09 Jul 2007 08:49:57 PM |
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:36:43 -0700, TheHeartOfAHero
<ADigitalCriminal@Goowy.com> wrote:
I am here for your input, thoughts, and to share my own
thoughts of god with people that may be lost like I was.
You used to be lost and lonely, then you found god. Now you are still
lost and lonely, but at least you can talk to your imaginary friend.
Liz #658 BAAWA
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Finding Myself |
09 Jul 2007 09:53:58 PM |
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:36:43 -0700, TheHeartOfAHero
<ADigitalCriminal@Goowy.com> wrote:
Recently I think I have found myself and I am curious of what you
people think of my way of life. My lifes philsoy is that during life
we must grow your relationship with God
I don't need to know any more - you're deluded. Get psychiatric help.
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Finding Myself |
09 Jul 2007 07:29:07 PM |
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:36:43 -0700, TheHeartOfAHero
<ADigitalCriminal@Goowy.com> wrote:
Recently I think I have found myself and I am curious of what you
people think of my way of life. My lifes philsoy is that during life
we must grow your relationship with God
So you posted this to alt.atheism why...?
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"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "Michael Gray" |
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| Title: Re: Finding Myself |
10 Jul 2007 04:12:34 AM |
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:36:43 -0700, TheHeartOfAHero
<ADigitalCriminal@Goowy.com> wrote:
Recently I think I have found myself and I am curious of what you
people think of my way of life. My lifes philsoy is that during life
we must grow your relationship with God, on a more personal level. I
I think that you are infantile.
No gods exist.
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| User: "Christopher A.Lee" |
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| Title: Re: Finding Myself |
09 Jul 2007 06:17:47 PM |
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:36:43 -0700, TheHeartOfAHero
<ADigitalCriminal@Goowy.com> wrote:
Recently I think I have found myself and I am curious of what you
people think of my way of life. My lifes philsoy is that during life
we must grow your relationship with God, on a more personal level. I
Prove it exists outside your deluded fantasies to do that - and when
you realise you can't - SHUT THE ***** UP BECAUSE YOU ARE OFF-TOPIC AND
HAVE NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO SAY ON THE SBJECT.
Was that clear enough even for you?
Why do so many of you loonies feel you have to rub your ***** in
everybody else's faces?
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| User: "Frank Mayhar" |
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| Title: Re: Finding Myself |
09 Jul 2007 06:31:17 PM |
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On Mon, 09 Jul 2007 15:36:43 -0700, TheHeartOfAHero wrote:
Recently I think I have found myself
Me, too, and don't ya know it, I was in the _last_ place anyone would
think to look!
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Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/
Exit Consulting http://www.gpsclock.com/
http://www.exit.com/blog/frank/
http://www.zazzle.com/fmayhar*
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