Religions > Atheism > Firefighter served dog food gets $2.7M in suit L.A. man claims meal given to him by colleagues was racial discrimination
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Firefighter served dog food gets $2.7M in suit L.A. man claims meal given to him by colleagues was racial discrimination |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15637071/
Firefighter served dog food gets $2.7M in suit
L.A. man claims meal given to him by colleagues was racial
discrimination
Updated: 10:41 a.m. ET Nov. 9, 2006
LOS ANGELES - {AP} The city is paying $2.7 million to settle a lawsuit
from a black firefighter who claims he suffered racial discrimination
after co-workers served him spaghetti laced with dog food.
The City Council approved the award Wednesday, 11-1.
In his lawsuit, firefighter Tennie Pierce, 51, said after he took a bite
of the meal two years ago, he noticed other firefighters laughing. He
demanded to know what was in the food after a second bite but nobody
answered.
Pierce said he suffered retaliation for reporting the incident and
verbal slurs, insults and derogatory remarks, including taunting by
firefighters “barking like dogs (and) asking him how dog food tasted,”
the lawsuit said.
David Wellman, a professor at the University of California, Santa Cruz
hired by Pierce’s attorney, said the association of a black man and dog
food “resonates with the deep historical roots of slavery and the
corresponding dehumanization.”
“It’s not just silly stuff. It’s racially motivated,” he said.
As part of the settlement, the two captains involved were given one
month off without pay, and a firefighter was ordered off work for three
days without pay.
“I truly hope that my case will make a difference for African-Americans
in the Los Angeles Fire Department,” Pierce said in a statement.
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| Title: Re: Firefighter served dog food gets $2.7M in suit L.A. man claims meal given to him by colleagues was racial discrimination |
09 Nov 2006 03:54:06 PM |
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On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:07:11 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
“I truly hope that my case will make a difference for African-Americans
in the Los Angeles Fire Department,” Pierce said in a statement.
As part of the settlement, the two captains involved were given one
month off without pay, and a firefighter was ordered off work for three
days without pay.
It sure doesn't look as if it's made any great difference yet.
I wonder how those firefighters feel about risking their lives to go
into a burning building to save a 51 year old black man.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Firefighter served dog food gets $2.7M in suit L.A. man claims meal given to him by colleagues was racial discrimination |
18 Nov 2006 11:31:30 AM |
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On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:54:06 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:07:11 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
“I truly hope that my case will make a difference for African-Americans
in the Los Angeles Fire Department,” Pierce said in a statement.
As part of the settlement, the two captains involved were given one
month off without pay, and a firefighter was ordered off work for three
days without pay.
It sure doesn't look as if it's made any great difference yet.
I wonder how those firefighters feel about risking their lives to go
into a burning building to save a 51 year old black man.
Would they, if they knew?
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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| Title: Re: Firefighter served dog food gets $2.7M in suit L.A. man claims meal given to him by colleagues was racial discrimination |
18 Nov 2006 03:17:03 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 09:31:30 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:54:06 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:07:11 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
“I truly hope that my case will make a difference for African-Americans
in the Los Angeles Fire Department,” Pierce said in a statement.
As part of the settlement, the two captains involved were given one
month off without pay, and a firefighter was ordered off work for three
days without pay.
It sure doesn't look as if it's made any great difference yet.
I wonder how those firefighters feel about risking their lives to go
into a burning building to save a 51 year old black man.
Would they, if they knew?
That's what I'm wondering.
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but indifferent to it. Divinity is claimed for many religions; but no religion is great
enough or divine enough to add that new law to its code."
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Firefighter served dog food gets $2.7M in suit L.A. man claims meal given to him by colleagues was racial discrimination |
20 Nov 2006 02:30:18 PM |
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On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 16:17:03 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism
On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 09:31:30 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 16:54:06 -0500, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.invalid> wrote
in alt.atheism
On Thu, 09 Nov 2006 08:07:11 -0800, stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
“I truly hope that my case will make a difference for African-Americans
in the Los Angeles Fire Department,” Pierce said in a statement.
As part of the settlement, the two captains involved were given one
month off without pay, and a firefighter was ordered off work for three
days without pay.
It sure doesn't look as if it's made any great difference yet.
I wonder how those firefighters feel about risking their lives to go
into a burning building to save a 51 year old black man.
Would they, if they knew?
That's what I'm wondering.
They may not know the answer to the question themselves.
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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| Title: Re: Firefighter served dog food gets $2.7M in suit L.A. man claims meal given to him by colleagues was racial discrimination |
22 Nov 2006 12:24:00 AM |
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stoney wrote:
I wonder how those firefighters feel about risking their lives to
go into a burning building to save a 51 year old black man.
Would they, if they knew?
That's what I'm wondering.
They may not know the answer to the question themselves.
The vast majority do and the answer is a qualified yes. If there is a
reasonable chance the man is alive and the risk to the firefighters (at
least two) is reasonable, they will go. In far to many cases they will go
even if they should not.
There are far, far to many dead firefighters who died trying to save a
doomed firefighter, who died trying to save his buddy, who died trying to
save a dead citizen.
In the incredibly conservative, thick yellow line that is the fire service,
this message is slowly getting across. I'm surprised that there are still
not horses and steam engines in some departments.
(The latest and greatest United States SCBA - Self Contained Breathing
Apparatus, is just now almost as good as equipment used in Europe over 30
years ago, and the department one town over rarely uses even the old ones
because they "never did before")
RANT, RANT, RANT Guess who is a volunteer fire fighter and just joined the
district fire protection board?
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Firefighter served dog food gets $2.7M in suit L.A. man claims meal given to him by colleagues was racial discrimination |
25 Nov 2006 07:00:15 PM |
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On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 06:24:00 GMT, "Mike Painter"
<mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in alt.atheism
stoney wrote:
I wonder how those firefighters feel about risking their lives to
go into a burning building to save a 51 year old black man.
Would they, if they knew?
That's what I'm wondering.
They may not know the answer to the question themselves.
The vast majority do and the answer is a qualified yes.
Sorry, Mike. I thought it was plain the question was specific to these
particular firefighters.
If there is a
reasonable chance the man is alive and the risk to the firefighters (at
least two) is reasonable, they will go. In far to many cases they will go
even if they should not.
Yes.
There are far, far to many dead firefighters who died trying to save a
doomed firefighter, who died trying to save his buddy, who died trying to
save a dead citizen.
Or misjudged the overall situation due to factors not known.
In the incredibly conservative, thick yellow line that is the fire service,
this message is slowly getting across. I'm surprised that there are still
not horses and steam engines in some departments.
(The latest and greatest United States SCBA - Self Contained Breathing
Apparatus, is just now almost as good as equipment used in Europe over 30
years ago, and the department one town over rarely uses even the old ones
because they "never did before")
That's the height, imo, of stupidity and of folks who like getting their
people killed.
RANT, RANT, RANT Guess who is a volunteer fire fighter and just joined the
district fire protection board?
Maybe you can knock some sense into the DFPB and get their equipment
upgraded.
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be 'blessed' with a plethora of splinters.
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