Religions > Atheism > First Cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin Never Denied Seeing God In Space
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19 Jul 2006 10:18:42 AM |
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First Cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin Never Denied Seeing God In Space |
http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=19417
Interfax: 1st cosmonaut never denied seeing God in space, Russian
colonel said
4/12/2006
Interfax (www.Interfax-religion.com)
MOSCOW (Interfax) - Yuri Gagarin, the first human in space 45 years
ago April 12, was a believer and could not have uttered the famous
words attributed to him that he "has been to space and has seen no
God," according to the first cosmonaut's colleague and good friend.
Col. Valentin Petrov, an associate professor at the Russian Gagarin Air
Force Academy and former teacher of cosmonauts, stated in an April 12,
2006, interview to the Moscow-based Interfax News Service, stated that
the phrase belonged to Soviet leader Nikita Khruschev and was said
during the party meeting devoted to anti-religious propaganda.
"At that time, Khruschev gave all the party and komsomol
organizations the task to promote this propaganda and said: 'Why
should you clutch at God? Look, Gagarin flew in space and saw no
God," the Russian colonel said.
With time, he added, these words began to be deliberately ascribed to
Gagarin, "who was the people's favorite and such a statement from
his lips could be of tremendous importance."
Meanwhile, Petrov insisted, "Yuri was baptized just as any Russian
and, as far as I can know, was a believer" and he just could not
"utter such words."
On April 12, 1961, Gagarin made history, as the 4 3/4-ton Vostok 1
spacecraft orbited the Earth once in 1 hour 29 minutes at a maximum
altitude of 187 miles and landed less than two hours after its launch.
He died almost seven years later at 34 years of age in an airplane
accident, flying as a test-pilot.
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| User: "Phÿltêr" |
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20 Jul 2006 07:27:58 AM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote in
news:1153322322.304737.221190@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com:
http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=19417
Interfax: 1st cosmonaut never denied seeing God in space, Russian
colonel said
You mean, like a giant image of Charlton Heston's head, floating above the
earth?
You fuckers are insane, it's fucking frightening to know that religious
nutcases like you are permitted to freely walk the streets of this
insignificant ball of rock, the third one from sol.
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Phÿltêr
Alt.Atheism #1938
Plonked by Fred Stone 17/03/2006
Denizen of Darkness #44 & AFJC Antipodean Attaché
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com
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| User: "Widget" |
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24 Jul 2006 02:58:35 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote in message
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http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=19417
Neither did he say that he DID see him.
*****.
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Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com
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| User: "Kim Keller" |
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20 Jul 2006 09:37:29 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1153322322.304737.221190@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=19417
Interfax: 1st cosmonaut never denied seeing God in space, Russian
colonel said
So? GW has never denied being a lying idiot, but that doesn't mean he's not
one. The question is, did anyone actually ask either of them? Probably not.
Why do jesus huggers always have to push their beliefs into everyone else's
face? Why can't they practice their beliefs in the peacefulness of their own
home and let everyone enjoy some measure of peace?
He died almost seven years later at 34 years of age in an airplane
accident, flying as a test-pilot.
Ah, yes. No doubt God "needed" him.
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| User: "Fred J. McCall" |
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22 Jul 2006 07:42:11 PM |
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"Kim Keller" <kekeller@nospam.cfl.rr.com> wrote:
:Why do jesus huggers always have to push their beliefs into everyone else's
:face? Why can't they practice their beliefs in the peacefulness of their own
:home and let everyone enjoy some measure of peace?
Presumably for the same reason that folks like you shove yours.
A pox on both your houses...
--
"This philosophy of hate, of religious and racial intolerance,
with its passionate urge toward war, is loose in the world.
It is the enemy of democracy; it is the enemy of all the
fruitful and spiritual sides of life. It is our responsibility,
as individuals and organizations, to resist this."
-- Mary Heaton Vorse
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| User: "Kim Keller" |
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23 Jul 2006 10:08:25 PM |
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"Fred J. McCall" <fmccall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:beh5c2tr6k6uus9t7jcq5nrnad5tpgdris@4ax.com...
Presumably for the same reason that folks like you shove yours.
A pox on both your houses...
Sorry, *****. I only "shove" mine when someone sticks it in my face. You
don't see me posting anti-jesus hugger propoganda without provocation, do
you? This god crap doesn't belong in this group.
Now "shove" your pious attitude up your *****.
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| User: "Fred J. McCall" |
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24 Jul 2006 12:29:05 AM |
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"Kim Keller" <kekeller@nospam.cfl.rr.com> wrote:
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:"Fred J. McCall" <fmccall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
:news:beh5c2tr6k6uus9t7jcq5nrnad5tpgdris@4ax.com...
:> Presumably for the same reason that folks like you shove yours.
:>
:> A pox on both your houses...
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:Sorry, *****. I only "shove" mine when someone sticks it in my face.
Then I should never have heard of you. The only logical conclusion is
that you lie.
:You
:don't see me posting anti-jesus hugger propoganda without provocation, do
:you? This god crap doesn't belong in this group.
For some value of 'this group', you cross-posting cretin.
:Now "shove" your pious attitude up your *****.
Since polite remonstrance doesn't appear to make any dent in your
religious zealots (of both sides), let me try something a bit more
direct.
Feel free to go ***** yourself.
--
"This philosophy of hate, of religious and racial intolerance,
with its passionate urge toward war, is loose in the world.
It is the enemy of democracy; it is the enemy of all the
fruitful and spiritual sides of life. It is our responsibility,
as individuals and organizations, to resist this."
-- Mary Heaton Vorse
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| User: "Kim Keller" |
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24 Jul 2006 08:04:23 PM |
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"Fred J. McCall" <fmccall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:8im8c21oj9e22mmg7oher7808l648tdggd@4ax.com...
Then I should never have heard of you. The only logical conclusion is
that you lie.
oooh, Spock! I love it when you talk logic!
For some value of 'this group', you cross-posting cretin.
Hey, can I help it the original cretin cross-posted to half the internet,
you knuckle-dragging Visigoth?
Since polite remonstrance doesn't appear to make any dent in your
religious zealots (of both sides), let me try something a bit more
direct.
Feel free to go ***** yourself.
J. Fred, ol' boy, since you're so lousy at cussin', maybe oughta stick to
the $5 words (remonstrance? wow, that's a good one!)
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| User: "Fred J. McCall" |
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06 Aug 2006 01:22:33 AM |
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"Kim Keller" <kekeller@nospam.cfl.rr.com> wrote:
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:"Fred J. McCall" <fmccall@earthlink.net> wrote in message
:news:8im8c21oj9e22mmg7oher7808l648tdggd@4ax.com...
:> Then I should never have heard of you. The only logical conclusion is
:> that you lie.
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:oooh, Spock! I love it when you talk logic!
How would you know? Logic obviously isn't your strong suit.
:> For some value of 'this group', you cross-posting cretin.
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:Hey, can I help it the original cretin cross-posted to half the internet,
:you knuckle-dragging Visigoth?
No, you can only help it that YOU are the cretin who cross-posted to
half the internet (must have a damned small internet on your planet,
what with only a dozen newsgroups or so) in response.
:> Since polite remonstrance doesn't appear to make any dent in your
:> religious zealots (of both sides), let me try something a bit more
:> direct.
:>
:> Feel free to go ***** yourself.
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:J. Fred, ol' boy, since you're so lousy at cussin', maybe oughta stick to
:the $5 words (remonstrance? wow, that's a good one!)
You're not even a GOOD troll, son.
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"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
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| User: "Henry Spencer" |
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22 Jul 2006 11:11:25 PM |
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In article <beh5c2tr6k6uus9t7jcq5nrnad5tpgdris@4ax.com>,
Fred J. McCall <fmccall@earthlink.net> wrote:
:Why do jesus huggers always have to push their beliefs into everyone else's
:face? Why can't they practice their beliefs in the peacefulness of their own
:home and let everyone enjoy some measure of peace?
Presumably for the same reason that folks like you shove yours.
One difference is that their supposed guide in such matters explicitly
told them not to be too ostentatious about their religion:
...when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray
standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by
men. I tell you the truth, they have received their reward in full.
When you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to
your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is
done in secret, will reward you. [Matthew 6:5-6]
--
spsystems.net is temporarily off the air; | Henry Spencer
mail to henry at zoo.utoronto.ca instead. |
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| User: "Fred J. McCall" |
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23 Jul 2006 04:16:52 AM |
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(Henry Spencer) wrote:
:In article <beh5c2tr6k6uus9t7jcq5nrnad5tpgdris@4ax.com>,
:Fred J. McCall <fmccall@earthlink.net> wrote:
:>:Why do jesus huggers always have to push their beliefs into everyone else's
:>:face? Why can't they practice their beliefs in the peacefulness of their own
:>:home and let everyone enjoy some measure of peace?
:>
:>Presumably for the same reason that folks like you shove yours.
:
:One difference is that their supposed guide in such matters explicitly
:told them not to be too ostentatious about their religion:
But that doesn't answer the question of why the folks complaining
about them are drive to "push their beliefs into everyone else's
face", essentially doing the very thing they're complaining about.
I still go for "a pox on both their houses".
--
"It's always different. It's always complex. But at some point,
somebody has to draw the line. And that somebody is always me....
I am the law."
-- Buffy, The Vampire Slayer
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| User: "Volker Hetzer" |
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25 Jul 2006 05:04:01 AM |
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Fred J. McCall wrote:
henry@spsystems.net (Henry Spencer) wrote:
:In article <beh5c2tr6k6uus9t7jcq5nrnad5tpgdris@4ax.com>,
:Fred J. McCall <fmccall@earthlink.net> wrote:
:>:Why do jesus huggers always have to push their beliefs into everyone else's
:>:face? Why can't they practice their beliefs in the peacefulness of their own
:>:home and let everyone enjoy some measure of peace?
:>
:>Presumably for the same reason that folks like you shove yours.
:
:One difference is that their supposed guide in such matters explicitly
:told them not to be too ostentatious about their religion:
But that doesn't answer the question of why the folks complaining
about them are drive to "push their beliefs into everyone else's
face", essentially doing the very thing they're complaining about.
Because non-belief is not a belief. You are mixing up the object of
your belief and the /process/ of believing, i.e. a special way of
"thinking" that promotes nonverifyable conclusions (afterlife), ignoring of
evidence (jupiters moons painted on the telescope) and conspiracy theories
(god is there, exerts secret influence but hides when we go looking).
So, we don't push any belief because we don't believe.
Volker
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For email replies, please substitute the obvious.
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| User: "Fred J. McCall" |
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06 Aug 2006 01:37:33 AM |
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Volker Hetzer <firstname.lastname@ieee.org> wrote:
:Fred J. McCall wrote:
:> (Henry Spencer) wrote:
:>
:> :In article <beh5c2tr6k6uus9t7jcq5nrnad5tpgdris@4ax.com>,
:> :Fred J. McCall <fmccall@earthlink.net> wrote:
:> :>:Why do jesus huggers always have to push their beliefs into everyone else's
:> :>:face? Why can't they practice their beliefs in the peacefulness of their own
:> :>:home and let everyone enjoy some measure of peace?
:> :>
:> :>Presumably for the same reason that folks like you shove yours.
:> :
:> :One difference is that their supposed guide in such matters explicitly
:> :told them not to be too ostentatious about their religion:
:>
:> But that doesn't answer the question of why the folks complaining
:> about them are drive to "push their beliefs into everyone else's
:> face", essentially doing the very thing they're complaining about.
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:Because non-belief is not a belief.
Of course it is, the way you lot seem to do it. You don't assert that
you do not know. You assert that they are wrong, which means you are
as belief-driven as they are.
:You are mixing up the object of
:your belief
You're obviously confused.
:So, we don't push any belief because we don't believe.
No, you push the belief of not believing. You're no different.
--
"Some people get lost in thought because it's such unfamiliar
territory."
--G. Behn
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| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
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06 Aug 2006 03:18:26 AM |
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Fred J. McCall <fmccall@earthlink.net> wrote in
news:ge3bd2lhb2h7dv6ove7s1fb35hgmubfqhq@4ax.com:
Volker Hetzer <firstname.lastname@ieee.org> wrote:
:Fred J. McCall wrote:
:> (Henry Spencer) wrote:
:>
:> :In article <beh5c2tr6k6uus9t7jcq5nrnad5tpgdris@4ax.com>,
:> :Fred J. McCall <fmccall@earthlink.net> wrote:
:> :>:Why do jesus huggers always have to push their beliefs into
:> :>:everyone else's face? Why can't they practice their beliefs in the
:> :>:peacefulness of their own home and let everyone enjoy some measure
:> :>:of peace?
:> :>
:> :>Presumably for the same reason that folks like you shove yours.
:> :
:> :One difference is that their supposed guide in such matters
:> :explicitly told them not to be too ostentatious about their religion:
:>
:> But that doesn't answer the question of why the folks complaining
:> about them are drive to "push their beliefs into everyone else's
:> face", essentially doing the very thing they're complaining about.
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:Because non-belief is not a belief.
Of course it is, the way you lot seem to do it. You don't assert that
you do not know. You assert that they are wrong, which means you are
as belief-driven as they are.
:You are mixing up the object of
:your belief
You're obviously confused.
:So, we don't push any belief because we don't believe.
No, you push the belief of not believing. You're no different.
Not collecting stamps is a hobby?
Not driving your car while drunk is drunk-driving?
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| User: "Malcolm" |
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06 Aug 2006 04:18:04 AM |
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"R. Pierce Butler" <spamsucks@google.com> wrote
Fred J. McCall <fmccall@earthlink.net> wrote in
:So, we don't push any belief because we don't believe.
No, you push the belief of not believing. You're no different.
Not collecting stamps is a hobby?
Not driving your car while drunk is drunk-driving?
Not collecting stamps is not doing nothing. Even if you have no hobby,
whilst your philatelist friend is busy with his stamp collection you must be
doing something - sleeping, walking the dog, posting to usenet.
Similarly you cannot believe nothing. You can believe that certain questions
are unanswerable, or not worth thinking about. Or you can think you you
yourself are personally unqualified to have an opinion. But having being
exposed to the proposition that there is a God, you must have some beleif
about its merits.
--
www.personal.leeds.ac.uk/~bgy1mm
freeware games to download.
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| User: "R. Pierce Butler" |
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06 Aug 2006 10:08:41 PM |
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"Malcolm" <regniztar@btinternet.com> wrote in
news:dMKdndReEvMwzEvZRVnysg@bt.com:
"R. Pierce Butler" <spamsucks@google.com> wrote
Fred J. McCall <fmccall@earthlink.net> wrote in
:So, we don't push any belief because we don't believe.
No, you push the belief of not believing. You're no different.
Not collecting stamps is a hobby?
Not driving your car while drunk is drunk-driving?
Not collecting stamps is not doing nothing. Even if you have no hobby,
whilst your philatelist friend is busy with his stamp collection you
must be doing something - sleeping, walking the dog, posting to usenet.
Similarly you cannot believe nothing. You can believe that certain
questions are unanswerable, or not worth thinking about. Or you can
think you you yourself are personally unqualified to have an opinion.
But having being exposed to the proposition that there is a God, you
must have some beleif about its merits.
The merits supporting the existence of God is the same as the existence of
the Easter Bunny. The difference is that more people are braiwashed into
believing something that has evidence to the contrary.
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| User: "Thomas Lee Elifritz" |
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20 Jul 2006 10:26:09 PM |
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Kim Keller wrote:
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote in message
news:1153322322.304737.221190@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com...
http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=19417
Interfax: 1st cosmonaut never denied seeing God in space, Russian
colonel said
So? GW has never denied being a lying idiot, but that doesn't mean he's not
one. The question is, did anyone actually ask either of them? Probably not.
Why do jesus huggers always have to push their beliefs into everyone else's
face? Why can't they practice their beliefs in the peacefulness of their own
home and let everyone enjoy some measure of peace?
He died almost seven years later at 34 years of age in an airplane
accident, flying as a test-pilot.
Ah, yes. No doubt God "needed" him.
Yes, and now God needs your money!
http://cosmic.lifeform.org
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| User: "ABCD - I am a Spelling Bee-ee-ee!" |
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19 Jul 2006 07:23:02 PM |
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"At that time, Khruschev gave all the party and komsomol
organizations the task to promote this propaganda and said: 'Why
should you clutch at God? Look, Gagarin flew in space and saw no
God," the Russian colonel said.
Reasonable statement from Khruschev. The logic is that even if there is god
he is certainly not anywhere near earth and can't effect things on earth, so
why waste any effort on religion. Solid logic coming from Khruschev.
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| User: "Rostyslaw J. Lewyckyj" |
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20 Jul 2006 12:57:28 AM |
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ABCD - I am a Spelling Bee-ee-ee! wrote:
"At that time, Khruschev gave all the party and komsomol
organizations the task to promote this propaganda and said: 'Why
should you clutch at God? Look, Gagarin flew in space and saw no
God," the Russian colonel said.
Reasonable statement from Khruschev. The logic is that even if there is god
he is certainly not anywhere near earth and can't effect things on earth, so
why waste any effort on religion. Solid logic coming from Khruschev.
Reading this in scr, I would have attributed this posting to
our True-Science guru MTRP.
The only thing missing is MTRPs signature statement
" It's true-sci stupid"
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Rostyk
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| User: "Gordon" |
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| Title: Re: First Cosmonaut Yuri Gagarin Never Denied Seeing God In Space |
19 Jul 2006 11:09:43 AM |
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He died almost seven years later at 34 years of age in an airplane
accident, flying as a test-pilot.
A test pilot? He was flying as a student, getting re-qualified on jets
after a long grounding. His commanders didn't want him flying because
they didn't want a national hero dying in a stupid way. Finally, they
relented and Yuri died on his first training flight. The accident board
said the crash was 'pilot error, due to inappropriate manuevers'
(striking the ground at a 40-degree angle). An uncontrolled dive in
crappy weather proved fatal and clipped off trees at the accident site,
even today, show the pronounced angle at which Yuri and his instructor
struck the ground.
I know that internet cites agree with your posted article's statement,
but facts concerning his death are not in dispute.
The other problem I have with your posted article is that it makes
absolute statements about what Gagarin could or could not have said,
based on his religion. I know plenty of otherwise religious people who
have said things in conflict with their ideology so one man's assertion
to the contrary is hardly evidence. Note, no one asked Yuri if he had
said it or not - its just an educated guess. I hate those.
v/r
Gordon
(Yuri fan)
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| Title: Have any astronauts ever said that they did see god while in orbit? |
19 Jul 2006 07:15:59 PM |
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In article <1153322322.304737.221190@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com says...
http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=19417
Interfax: 1st cosmonaut never denied seeing God in space, Russian
colonel said
Have any astronauts ever said that they did see god while in orbit?
--
Quibbler (quibbler247atyahoo.com)
"It is fashionable to wax apocalyptic about the
threat to humanity posed by the AIDS virus, 'mad cow'
disease, and many others, but I think a case can be
made that faith is one of the world's great evils,
comparable to the smallpox virus but harder to
eradicate." -- Richard Dawkins
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Have any astronauts ever said that they did see god while in orbit? |
21 Jul 2006 01:57:22 AM |
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In article <MPG.1f28792bd57518cb989b5b@news.readfreenews.net>,
quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
In article <1153322322.304737.221190@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com says...
http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=19417
Interfax: 1st cosmonaut never denied seeing God in space, Russian
colonel said
Have any astronauts ever said that they did see god while in orbit?
Nah. They didn't get past the firmament.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "raven1" |
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| Title: Re: Have any astronauts ever said that they did see god while in orbit? |
19 Jul 2006 09:03:14 PM |
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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:15:59 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
In article <1153322322.304737.221190@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com says...
http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=19417
Interfax: 1st cosmonaut never denied seeing God in space, Russian
colonel said
Have any astronauts ever said that they did see god while in orbit?
Major Tom, maybe.
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "Jos Flachs" |
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20 Jul 2006 03:41:28 AM |
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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:15:59 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
In article <1153322322.304737.221190@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com says...
http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=19417
Interfax: 1st cosmonaut never denied seeing God in space, Russian
colonel said
Have any astronauts ever said that they did see god while in orbit?
Not sure if they are allowed hallucinogenic drugs during flight.
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| User: "John Baker" |
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| Title: Re: Have any astronauts ever said that they did see god while in orbit? |
19 Jul 2006 08:36:24 PM |
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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:15:59 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com>
wrote:
In article <1153322322.304737.221190@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>,
sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com says...
http://www.catholic.org/international/international_story.php?id=19417
Interfax: 1st cosmonaut never denied seeing God in space, Russian
colonel said
Have any astronauts ever said that they did see god while in orbit?
Only the ones that sneaked a little something aboard. <G>
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Have any astronauts ever said that they did see god while in orbit? |
20 Jul 2006 05:31:16 PM |
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On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:15:59 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
Interfax: 1st cosmonaut never denied seeing God in space, Russian
colonel said
Have any astronauts ever said that they did see god while in orbit?
God is seen everywhere.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
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| User: "Gospel Bretts" |
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| Title: Re: Have any astronauts ever said that they did see god while in orbit? |
21 Jul 2006 12:36:59 PM |
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On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:31:16 -0500, duke <duckgumbo32@cox.net> wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:15:59 -0600, quibbler <quibbler247@yahoo.com> wrote:
Interfax: 1st cosmonaut never denied seeing God in space, Russian
colonel said
Have any astronauts ever said that they did see god while in orbit?
God is seen everywhere.
LOL. We fundies know that you're referring to those statues of Mary in
your church. Well I have news for you and your fellow apostates, Duke.
That statue isn't God, no matter how often you've prayed to it.
Now go to a *real* church and get your ***** born again, Duke. Having a
pedo priest sprinkle water and incense on top of your noggin when
you're a baby won't cover your hide when you're standing before the
pearly gates. Your statue of Mary ain't gonna be there to save your
***** then, roman boy.
"For he hath judged the great *****, which did corrupt the earth with
her fornication." (Revelation 19:2)
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Gospel Bretts
a.a. Atheist #2262
Fundy Xian Atheist
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| User: "Henry Spencer" |
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| Title: Re: Have any astronauts ever said that they did see god while in orbit? |
21 Jul 2006 10:51:49 PM |
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In article <8o32c2hbknv5t0mervmvatse41l36nem30@4ax.com>,
Gospel Bretts <bretts1967@hotmail.com> wrote:
...Your statue of Mary ain't gonna be there to save your
***** then, roman boy.
"Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgement ye judge, ye
shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to
you again." -- J. Christ (as reported in Matthew 7:1-2)
--
spsystems.net is temporarily off the air; | Henry Spencer
mail to henry at zoo.utoronto.ca instead. |
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Have any astronauts ever said that they did see god while in orbit? |
21 Jul 2006 02:31:31 PM |
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:36:59 GMT, Gospel Bretts <Hallelujah@InJesusName.Amen>
wrote:
LOL. We fundies know that you're referring to those statues of Mary in
your church. Well I have news for you and your fellow apostates, Duke.
That statue isn't God, no matter how often you've prayed to it.
Actually, I know of no one that has prayed to a statue.
Now go to a *real* church and get your ***** born again, Duke.
I was baptized as an infant..
Having a
pedo priest sprinkle water and incense on top of your noggin when
you're a baby won't cover your hide when you're standing before the
pearly gates.
No, but baptism will.
Your statue of Mary ain't gonna be there to save your
***** then, roman boy.
??? How would a statue of Mary help me?
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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| User: "nJb" |
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| Title: Re: Have any astronauts ever said that they did see god while inorbit? |
21 Jul 2006 10:32:08 PM |
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duke wrote:
On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 17:36:59 GMT, Gospel Bretts <Hallelujah@InJesusName.Amen>
wrote:
LOL. We fundies know that you're referring to those statues of Mary in
your church. Well I have news for you and your fellow apostates, Duke.
That statue isn't God, no matter how often you've prayed to it.
Actually, I know of no one that has prayed to a statue.
I have. Now you do.
Now go to a *real* church and get your ***** born again, Duke.
I was baptized as an infant..
Having a
pedo priest sprinkle water and incense on top of your noggin when
you're a baby won't cover your hide when you're standing before the
pearly gates.
No, but baptism will.
Your statue of Mary ain't gonna be there to save your
***** then, roman boy.
??? How would a statue of Mary help me?
A butt plug?
Jack
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| User: "duke" |
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| Title: Re: Have any astronauts ever said that they did see god while in orbit? |
22 Jul 2006 08:04:15 AM |
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On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 21:32:08 -0600, nJb <user@example.com> wrote:
Actually, I know of no one that has prayed to a statue.
I have. Now you do.
Nope. No Christian has ever prayed to a statue.
duke, American-American
*****
"The Mass is the most perfect form of Prayer."
Pope Paul VI
*****
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