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"Sound of Trumpet" |
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23 Jul 2006 05:14:30 PM |
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First US Married Gay Couple Have Broken Up |
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1670749/posts
First US gay couple to marry have broken up
The Times ^ | 7/23/06 | James Bone
Posted on 07/22/2006 11:17:30 PM PDT by XR7
THE lesbian couple who pioneered gay marriage in America have split up,
saying that their marital troubles show that they are no different from
heterosexual partners.
Julie and Hillary Goodridge led the legal battle that forced
Massachusetts to become the first state in the US to allow same-sex
marriage. The two, who met 21 years ago at a Harvard University course
on disinvestment in South Africa, became the public face of a loving,
financially stable, committed same-sex couple.
As lead plaintiffs in the landmark case, they were featured in People
magazine. Julie, 49, is president of an investment advisory firm, and
Hillary, 50, is a grants manager for the Unitarian Universalist
Association. The pair went to court after a hospital refused to allow
Hillary to see Julie when she suffered complications during the birth
of their daughter, now 10.
They wed in Boston on May 17, 2004, the first day of legal gay marriage
in America. "Next to the birth of our daughter, Annie, this is the
happiest day of our lives," Julie said. Two years later, however, the
couple have broken up. "Julie and Hillary Goodridge are amicably
living apart," Mary Breslauer, a spokeswoman, said.
A survey undertaken by the Boston Globe indicated that about 7,300
same-sex couples have obtained licences since gay marriage was
legalised in Massachusetts, and about 45 have divorced. The news of the
break-up comes as gay rights activists have suffered a series of
setbacks in their campaign for same-sex marriage.
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23 Jul 2006 07:10:05 PM |
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"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote in
news:1153692870.067443.257950@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:
Subject: First US Married Gay Couple Have Broken Up
HOORAY!!! Now they're just like 50 percent of the rest of us!!
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Doc Smartass
Investigate.
Indict.
Impeach.
Imprison.
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| User: "johac" |
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24 Jul 2006 01:37:38 AM |
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In article <1153692870.067443.257950@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1670749/posts
First US gay couple to marry have broken up
And how many heterosexual couples have got divorced?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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24 Jul 2006 08:49:50 AM |
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Previously, on alt.atheism, johac in episode
<jhachmann-04597C.23373823072006@news.giganews.com>...
In article <1153692870.067443.257950@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1670749/posts
First US gay couple to marry have broken up
And how many heterosexual couples have got divorced?
Well, let's see...
Last year I can find info on is 2001 and for that year there were about
2.2 million divorces. Which is roughly one every 14 seconds. Oops, there's
one now! Wait, there's another divorce! There went another one...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "johac" |
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25 Jul 2006 12:15:41 AM |
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In article <nfmdnVOtiqtsUlnZnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
Previously, on alt.atheism, johac in episode
<jhachmann-04597C.23373823072006@news.giganews.com>...
In article <1153692870.067443.257950@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1670749/posts
First US gay couple to marry have broken up
And how many heterosexual couples have got divorced?
Well, let's see...
Last year I can find info on is 2001 and for that year there were about
2.2 million divorces. Which is roughly one every 14 seconds. Oops, there's
one now! Wait, there's another divorce! There went another one...
....and another one. If the loonies are so concerned about 'defending
marriage' how come they never bring that up?
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Michelle Malkin" |
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25 Jul 2006 01:18:44 AM |
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"johac" <jhachmann@sbcglobal.com> wrote in message
news:jhachmann-BC7F5F.22154124072006@news.giganews.com...
In article <nfmdnVOtiqtsUlnZnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
Previously, on alt.atheism, johac in episode
<jhachmann-04597C.23373823072006@news.giganews.com>...
In article <1153692870.067443.257950@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1670749/posts
First US gay couple to marry have broken up
And how many heterosexual couples have got divorced?
Well, let's see...
Last year I can find info on is 2001 and for that year there were about
2.2 million divorces. Which is roughly one every 14 seconds. Oops,
there's
one now! Wait, there's another divorce! There went another one...
...and another one. If the loonies are so concerned about 'defending
marriage' how come they never bring that up?
They can't stop the divorces. They'd like that kind of
power over people.
--
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
Michelle Malkin (Mickey) aa list#1
BAAWA Knight & Bible Thumper Thumper
^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^ ^^
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit
atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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25 Jul 2006 07:44:31 AM |
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Previously, on alt.atheism, johac in episode
<jhachmann-BC7F5F.22154124072006@news.giganews.com>...
In article <nfmdnVOtiqtsUlnZnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
Previously, on alt.atheism, johac in episode
<jhachmann-04597C.23373823072006@news.giganews.com>...
In article <1153692870.067443.257950@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1670749/posts
First US gay couple to marry have broken up
And how many heterosexual couples have got divorced?
Well, let's see...
Last year I can find info on is 2001 and for that year there were about
2.2 million divorces. Which is roughly one every 14 seconds. Oops,
there's one now! Wait, there's another divorce! There went another
one...
...and another one. If the loonies are so concerned about 'defending
marriage' how come they never bring that up?
Speaking of things they'd rather not talk about, Massachusetts--the only
state that has gay marriage--has the lowest divorce rate in the nation.
So if you wanna defend marriage, it appears you need gay marriage...
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "Mark K. Bilbo" |
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26 Jul 2006 12:55:43 AM |
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Previously, on alt.atheism, johac in episode
<jhachmann-1B9B67.22333025072006@news.giganews.com>...
In article <2L2dnUQ5X6eyj1vZnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
Previously, on alt.atheism, johac in episode
<jhachmann-BC7F5F.22154124072006@news.giganews.com>...
In article <nfmdnVOtiqtsUlnZnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
Previously, on alt.atheism, johac in episode
<jhachmann-04597C.23373823072006@news.giganews.com>...
In article <1153692870.067443.257950@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1670749/posts
First US gay couple to marry have broken up
And how many heterosexual couples have got divorced?
Well, let's see...
Last year I can find info on is 2001 and for that year there were
about 2.2 million divorces. Which is roughly one every 14 seconds.
Oops, there's one now! Wait, there's another divorce! There went
another one...
...and another one. If the loonies are so concerned about 'defending
marriage' how come they never bring that up?
Speaking of things they'd rather not talk about, Massachusetts--the only
state that has gay marriage--has the lowest divorce rate in the nation.
So if you wanna defend marriage, it appears you need gay marriage...
And I believe that the same polls show that divorce rates are highest in
the red states, including the Bible Belt. How many times has Gingrich
gotten married?
Isn't Gingrich the one that had his dying wife served in the hospital?
(But in the love of Jesus I'm sure)
--
Mark K. Bilbo
--------------------------------------------------
"As hip as it is for outsiders to blame New Orleans
for everything bad that happened during and after
Hurricane Katrina, the truth is that the people
who lived here were much more prepared for a big
storm than the federal government that promised
us flood protection." [Jarvis DeBerry]
http://makeashorterlink.com/?V180525DC
"Everything New Orleans"
http://www.nola.com
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| User: "johac" |
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27 Jul 2006 12:26:27 AM |
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In article <09SdnUMAPcJCnlrZnZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
Previously, on alt.atheism, johac in episode
<jhachmann-1B9B67.22333025072006@news.giganews.com>...
In article <2L2dnUQ5X6eyj1vZnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
Previously, on alt.atheism, johac in episode
<jhachmann-BC7F5F.22154124072006@news.giganews.com>...
In article <nfmdnVOtiqtsUlnZnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
Previously, on alt.atheism, johac in episode
<jhachmann-04597C.23373823072006@news.giganews.com>...
In article <1153692870.067443.257950@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1670749/posts
First US gay couple to marry have broken up
And how many heterosexual couples have got divorced?
Well, let's see...
Last year I can find info on is 2001 and for that year there were
about 2.2 million divorces. Which is roughly one every 14 seconds.
Oops, there's one now! Wait, there's another divorce! There went
another one...
...and another one. If the loonies are so concerned about 'defending
marriage' how come they never bring that up?
Speaking of things they'd rather not talk about, Massachusetts--the only
state that has gay marriage--has the lowest divorce rate in the nation.
So if you wanna defend marriage, it appears you need gay marriage...
And I believe that the same polls show that divorce rates are highest in
the red states, including the Bible Belt. How many times has Gingrich
gotten married?
Isn't Gingrich the one that had his dying wife served in the hospital?
(But in the love of Jesus I'm sure)
Yes, but I'm sure that he prayed for her.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities"
-Voltaire
Contact - Throw a .net over the .com
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| User: "L. Michael Roberts" |
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25 Jul 2006 07:55:23 AM |
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johac wrote:
In article <nfmdnVOtiqtsUlnZnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@megapath.net>,
"Mark K. Bilbo" <alt-atheism@org.webmaster> wrote:
Previously, on alt.atheism, johac in episode
<jhachmann-04597C.23373823072006@news.giganews.com>...
In article <1153692870.067443.257950@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Sound of Trumpet" <sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1670749/posts
First US gay couple to marry have broken up
And how many heterosexual couples have got divorced?
Well, let's see...
Last year I can find info on is 2001 and for that year there were about
2.2 million divorces. Which is roughly one every 14 seconds. Oops, there's
one now! Wait, there's another divorce! There went another one...
...and another one. If the loonies are so concerned about 'defending
marriage' how come they never bring that up?
Apparently in the recent debate over the federal marriage amendment,
one of the congress-critters made a speech in which he said if they
really wanted to protect marriage, they should ban divorce. He was
roundly criticized in the press by the GOP congress-critters.
Which makes sense since picking on gays energizes the GOP base... but
dealing with reality does not!
--
+==================== L. Michael Roberts ======================+
This represents my personal opinion and NOT Company policy
Goderich, Ont, Canada. To reply, post a request for my valid E-mail
"Life is a sexually transmitted, terminal, condition"
+================================================================+
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| User: "raven1" |
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23 Jul 2006 06:55:01 PM |
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On 23 Jul 2006 15:14:30 -0700, "Sound of Trumpet"
<sound_of_trumpet@lycos.com> wrote:
THE lesbian couple who pioneered gay marriage in America have split up,
saying that their marital troubles show that they are no different from
heterosexual partners.
Amen to that! I am curious as to your point, though.
--
"O Sybilli, si ergo
Fortibus es in ero
O Nobili! Themis trux
Sivat sinem? Causen Dux"
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| User: "teresita" |
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23 Jul 2006 05:30:27 PM |
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On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 15:14:30 -0700, Sound of Trumpet wrote:
A survey undertaken by the Boston Globe indicated that about 7,300
same-sex couples have obtained licences since gay marriage was
legalised in Massachusetts, and about 45 have divorced.
That's a divorce rate of less than 1%. A heck of a lot better
than even some fundy marriages.
--
Teresita
http://encyclopediateresita.blogspot.com/
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| User: "No One" |
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24 Jul 2006 01:30:01 PM |
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teresita <teresita@localhost.localdomain> writes:
On Sun, 23 Jul 2006 15:14:30 -0700, Sound of Trumpet wrote:
A survey undertaken by the Boston Globe indicated that about 7,300
same-sex couples have obtained licences since gay marriage was
legalised in Massachusetts, and about 45 have divorced.
That's a divorce rate of less than 1%. A heck of a lot better
than even some fundy marriages.
To be fair, you should actually compare the divorce rate for straight
couples who were married no longer than the 45 gay couples who broke
up - same-sex marriage only recently became legal anywhere in the U.S.
A fairer comparision would be to the fraction of straight couples who
divorced after a year or two of being married: you won't find any
gay couples in the U.S. who divorced after being married for 10 years
because none can be legally be married for that long, yet you can
find straight couples who divorced after being married that long.
I've no idea what the number actually is with that criteria, but it
would be a fairer one to use in a discussion.
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| User: "" |
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24 Jul 2006 09:19:32 PM |
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No One wrote:
To be fair, you should actually compare the divorce rate
for straight couples who were married no longer than
the 45 gay couples who broke up - same-sex marriage
only recently became legal anywhere in the U.S.
One-in-twelve breeders get divorced after two years.
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| User: "" |
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25 Jul 2006 01:07:46 AM |
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On 24 Jul 2006 19:19:32 -0700, wrote:
No One wrote:
To be fair, you should actually compare the divorce rate
for straight couples who were married no longer than
the 45 gay couples who broke up - same-sex marriage
only recently became legal anywhere in the U.S.
One-in-twelve breeders get divorced after two years.
Three out of five ***** suckers and rug munchers get divorced after two
years.
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| User: "No One" |
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25 Jul 2006 01:28:33 AM |
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<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On 24 Jul 2006 19:19:32 -0700, wrote:
No One wrote:
To be fair, you should actually compare the divorce rate
for straight couples who were married no longer than
the 45 gay couples who broke up - same-sex marriage
only recently became legal anywhere in the U.S.
One-in-twelve breeders get divorced after two years.
Three out of five ***** suckers and rug munchers get divorced after two
years.
The divorce rate for straight couples must be enormous! :-) Now, do
you have any credible statistics to back your statements up or are
you just telling us that your mommy never taught you how to behave
in public?
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| User: "" |
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25 Jul 2006 09:29:14 PM |
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On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 06:28:33 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On 24 Jul 2006 19:19:32 -0700, wrote:
No One wrote:
To be fair, you should actually compare the divorce rate
for straight couples who were married no longer than
the 45 gay couples who broke up - same-sex marriage
only recently became legal anywhere in the U.S.
One-in-twelve breeders get divorced after two years.
Three out of five ***** suckers and rug munchers get divorced after two
years.
The divorce rate for straight couples must be enormous! :-) Now, do
you have any credible statistics to back your statements up or are
you just telling us that your mommy never taught you how to behave
in public?
No site required. It's as much in the realm of common knowledge as is,
"One-in-twelve breeders get divorced after two years."
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| User: "No One" |
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25 Jul 2006 10:14:23 PM |
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<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 06:28:33 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On 24 Jul 2006 19:19:32 -0700, wrote:
No One wrote:
To be fair, you should actually compare the divorce rate
for straight couples who were married no longer than
the 45 gay couples who broke up - same-sex marriage
only recently became legal anywhere in the U.S.
One-in-twelve breeders get divorced after two years.
Three out of five ***** suckers and rug munchers get divorced after two
years.
The divorce rate for straight couples must be enormous! :-) Now, do
you have any credible statistics to back your statements up or are
you just telling us that your mommy never taught you how to behave
in public?
No site required. It's as much in the realm of common knowledge as is,
"One-in-twelve breeders get divorced after two years."
We are not asking for a "site" but rather a citation, and it is
required. Otherwise we'll all assume you made it up just like you
make up many of the other "facts" that you post.
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| User: "No One" |
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26 Jul 2006 10:13:20 AM |
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<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 03:14:23 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 06:28:33 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On 24 Jul 2006 19:19:32 -0700, wrote:
No One wrote:
To be fair, you should actually compare the divorce rate
for straight couples who were married no longer than
the 45 gay couples who broke up - same-sex marriage
only recently became legal anywhere in the U.S.
One-in-twelve breeders get divorced after two years.
Three out of five ***** suckers and rug munchers get divorced after two
years.
The divorce rate for straight couples must be enormous! :-) Now, do
you have any credible statistics to back your statements up or are
you just telling us that your mommy never taught you how to behave
in public?
No site required. It's as much in the realm of common knowledge as is,
"One-in-twelve breeders get divorced after two years."
We are not asking for a "site" but rather a citation, and it is
required. Otherwise we'll all assume you made it up just like you
make up many of the other "facts" that you post.
No, it's not required. If it where you would have asked the queer who
posted the het divorce stat to provide one. Everyone gets to play by
the same rules, Jenn.
Yes, it is required, particularly when the claim is outrageous. You
don't just get to make up numbers. BTW, Jenn isn't in this discussion
(of course, we all know that you are the "Bill Taylor" clone trying to
cover up his multiple identities by accusing others of doing what you
do).
There were 45 "gay" divorces out of 7500 "gay" marriages in Mass. See
<http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/07/21/after_2_years_same_sex_marriage_icons_split_up/>
The divorce rate for straight couples in Massachusetts is 2.4 per
thousand marriages. See
<http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/10/31/walking_the_walk_on_family_values/>
<http://www.divorcereform.org/94staterates.html> has the rates broken
down by state (4.6 per thousand marriages is the U.S. average).
<http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/95facts/fs_439s.htm> shows similar
number (4.6 per thousand for the U.S. average, and 2.7 per 1000 for
the state of Massachusetts, but this CDC page contains statistics for
1995, and the rate changes over time).
So, why don't you produce some data backing up your statements? My
guess is that it is because you don't have any and just made up your
numbers.
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26 Jul 2006 11:58:01 AM |
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:13:20 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 03:14:23 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 06:28:33 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On 24 Jul 2006 19:19:32 -0700, wrote:
No One wrote:
To be fair, you should actually compare the divorce rate
for straight couples who were married no longer than
the 45 gay couples who broke up - same-sex marriage
only recently became legal anywhere in the U.S.
One-in-twelve breeders get divorced after two years.
Three out of five ***** suckers and rug munchers get divorced after two
years.
The divorce rate for straight couples must be enormous! :-) Now, do
you have any credible statistics to back your statements up or are
you just telling us that your mommy never taught you how to behave
in public?
No site required. It's as much in the realm of common knowledge as is,
"One-in-twelve breeders get divorced after two years."
We are not asking for a "site" but rather a citation, and it is
required. Otherwise we'll all assume you made it up just like you
make up many of the other "facts" that you post.
No, it's not required. If it where you would have asked the queer who
posted the het divorce stat to provide one. Everyone gets to play by
the same rules, Jenn.
Yes, it is required,
No, it's not required. If it where you would have asked the queer who
posted the het divorce stat to provide one. Everyone gets to play by
the same rules, Jenn.
So, why don't you produce some data backing up your statements? My
guess is that it is because you don't have any and just made up your
numbers.
Why haven't you asked the homosexual to back up his? Is because you
don't have any and just made up some numbers? Is it another special
right and privilege that homosexuals enjoy that they can post
"statistics" without reference to the source of the information, Jenn?
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| User: "No One" |
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| Title: Re: First US Married Gay Couple Have Broken Up |
26 Jul 2006 12:47:49 PM |
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<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:13:20 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
The divorce rate for straight couples must be enormous! :-) Now, do
you have any credible statistics to back your statements up or are
you just telling us that your mommy never taught you how to behave
in public?
No site required. It's as much in the realm of common knowledge as is,
"One-in-twelve breeders get divorced after two years."
We are not asking for a "site" but rather a citation, and it is
required. Otherwise we'll all assume you made it up just like you
make up many of the other "facts" that you post.
No, it's not required. If it where you would have asked the queer who
posted the het divorce stat to provide one. Everyone gets to play by
the same rules, Jenn.
Yes, it is required,
No, it's not required. If it where you would have asked the queer who
posted the het divorce stat to provide one. Everyone gets to play by
the same rules, Jenn.
You mean you think I have an obligation to reply to every post? You
made an outrageous claim, so back it up. Also, pretending I'm "Jenn"
won't cover up your multiple identities, all clones of "Bill
Taylor". See
Message-ID <n5tn72l8p74cfv8vcb8uu848b6ibuav57v@4ax.com>
Message-ID <m3d5dvpb61.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net>
for details on how you confirmed that you are in fact "Bill Taylor".
Also see
Message ID: <hicrb2p6q7oc47m5fo1dnu5242jidarjrh@4ax.com>
Message ID: <3pdub2lmidufb7u967jr09hoh1m82k86eq@4ax.com>
for an indication of your honesty (in your own words).
So, why don't you produce some data backing up your statements? My
guess is that it is because you don't have any and just made up your
numbers.
Why haven't you asked the homosexual to back up his? Is because you
don't have any and just made up some numbers? Is it another special
right and privilege that homosexuals enjoy that they can post
"statistics" without reference to the source of the information, Jenn?
Note how the troll snipped the stats I provided (which are embarassing
to him since he has nothing to back up his statements):
There were 45 "gay" divorces out of 7500 "gay" marriages in Mass. See
<http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2006/07/21/after_2_years_same_sex_marriage_icons_split_up/>
The divorce rate for straight couples in Massachusetts is 2.4 per
thousand marriages. See
<http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2004/10/31/walking_the_walk_on_family_values/>
<http://www.divorcereform.org/94staterates.html> has the rates broken
down by state (4.6 per thousand marriages is the U.S. average).
<http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/95facts/fs_439s.htm> shows similar
number (4.6 per thousand for the U.S. average, and 2.7 per 1000 for
the state of Massachusetts, but this CDC page contains statistics for
1995, and the rate changes over time).
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| User: "" |
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26 Jul 2006 11:07:08 PM |
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On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:47:49 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
You mean you think I have an obligation to reply to every post? You
made an outrageous claim, so back it up.
You don't ask your fellow homosexual to back up his claim, don't ask
me to back up mine. What's more I don't give a big rat's ***** whether
you believe me or not. What you think makes no difference, Jenn.
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| User: "No One" |
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26 Jul 2006 11:16:36 PM |
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<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:47:49 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
You mean you think I have an obligation to reply to every post? You
made an outrageous claim, so back it up.
You don't ask your fellow homosexual to back up his claim, don't ask
me to back up mine. What's more I don't give a big rat's ***** whether
you believe me or not. What you think makes no difference, Jenn.
Still calling everyone who disagrees with you "gay"? And still pretending
I'm "Jenn" to cover up that you are Bill Taylor?
See
Message-ID <n5tn72l8p74cfv8vcb8uu848b6ibuav57v@4ax.com>
Message-ID <m3d5dvpb61.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> (for an analysis)
Message ID <hicrb2p6q7oc47m5fo1dnu5242jidarjrh@4ax.com>
Message ID <3pdub2lmidufb7u967jr09hoh1m82k86eq@4ax.com>
for what what is going on regarding Bill Taylor. If you had the
majurity of an adult, you'd simply provide the citation requested.
You won't because you lied, were caught, and can't admit it.
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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26 Jul 2006 11:30:28 PM |
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No One wrote:
If you had the
majurity of an adult, you'd simply provide the citation requested.
You won't because you lied, were caught, and can't admit it.
<The "old timer" chuckles>
Oh, and this is news?
:-)
--
"If Christians want us to believe in a Redeemer, let them act redeemed."
--Voltaire
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: First US Married Gay Couple Have Broken Up |
27 Jul 2006 08:14:00 AM |
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 04:16:36 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:47:49 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
You mean you think I have an obligation to reply to every post? You
made an outrageous claim, so back it up.
You don't ask your fellow homosexual to back up his claim, don't ask
me to back up mine. What's more I don't give a big rat's ***** whether
you believe me or not. What you think makes no difference, Jenn.
Still calling everyone who disagrees with you "gay"? And still pretending
I'm "Jenn" to cover up that you are Bill Taylor?
You are "Jenn", everyone knows that.
See
Message-ID <n5tn72l8p74cfv8vcb8uu848b6ibuav57v@4ax.com>
Message-ID <m3d5dvpb61.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> (for an analysis)
Message ID <hicrb2p6q7oc47m5fo1dnu5242jidarjrh@4ax.com>
Message ID <3pdub2lmidufb7u967jr09hoh1m82k86eq@4ax.com>
for what what is going on regarding Bill Taylor. If you had the
majurity of an adult, you'd simply provide the citation requested.
You won't because you lied, were caught, and can't admit it.
I responded to a homosexual's post in which he provided no cite for
his claim and you asked for none. I have no obligation to provide one
either and for you to ask for one is indicative of your bigotry, bias
and bull *****. Further more, what you think matters nothing at all,
Jenn.
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| User: "No One" |
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| Title: Re: First US Married Gay Couple Have Broken Up |
27 Jul 2006 11:13:18 AM |
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<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 04:16:36 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:47:49 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
You mean you think I have an obligation to reply to every post? You
made an outrageous claim, so back it up.
You don't ask your fellow homosexual to back up his claim, don't ask
me to back up mine. What's more I don't give a big rat's ***** whether
you believe me or not. What you think makes no difference, Jenn.
Still calling everyone who disagrees with you "gay"? And still pretending
I'm "Jenn" to cover up that you are Bill Taylor?
You are "Jenn", everyone knows that.
LOL - what a liar you are.
See
Message-ID <n5tn72l8p74cfv8vcb8uu848b6ibuav57v@4ax.com>
Message-ID <m3d5dvpb61.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> (for an analysis)
Message ID <hicrb2p6q7oc47m5fo1dnu5242jidarjrh@4ax.com>
Message ID <3pdub2lmidufb7u967jr09hoh1m82k86eq@4ax.com>
for what what is going on regarding Bill Taylor. If you had the
majurity of an adult, you'd simply provide the citation requested.
You won't because you lied, were caught, and can't admit it.
I responded to a homosexual's post in which he provided no cite for
his claim and you asked for none. I have no obligation to provide one
either and for you to ask for one is indicative of your bigotry, bias
and bull ***** <snip>
Bill Taylor is now trying to cover up the fact that he lied as he
always does. BTW, I had looked up the numbers independently (and
posted a citation), so why should I ask some other guy to find them.
You meanwhile, simply made up some numbers and can't back them up.
Trying to argue about it simply makes you look like a fool.
Should we go through what the messages quoted above show, including
your claim to be a tax cheat? The IRS might be real interested in
that one. :-)
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: First US Married Gay Couple Have Broken Up |
27 Jul 2006 10:07:35 PM |
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On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:13:18 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 04:16:36 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:47:49 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
You mean you think I have an obligation to reply to every post? You
made an outrageous claim, so back it up.
You don't ask your fellow homosexual to back up his claim, don't ask
me to back up mine. What's more I don't give a big rat's ***** whether
you believe me or not. What you think makes no difference, Jenn.
Still calling everyone who disagrees with you "gay"? And still pretending
I'm "Jenn" to cover up that you are Bill Taylor?
You are "Jenn", everyone knows that.
LOL - what a liar you are.
See
Message-ID <n5tn72l8p74cfv8vcb8uu848b6ibuav57v@4ax.com>
Message-ID <m3d5dvpb61.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> (for an analysis)
Message ID <hicrb2p6q7oc47m5fo1dnu5242jidarjrh@4ax.com>
Message ID <3pdub2lmidufb7u967jr09hoh1m82k86eq@4ax.com>
for what what is going on regarding Bill Taylor. If you had the
majurity of an adult, you'd simply provide the citation requested.
You won't because you lied, were caught, and can't admit it.
I responded to a homosexual's post in which he provided no cite for
his claim and you asked for none. I have no obligation to provide one
either and for you to ask for one is indicative of your bigotry, bias
and bull ***** <snip>
Bill Taylor is now trying to cover up the fact that he lied as he
always does.
Isn't "Bill Taylor" one of your long ago pantyhose, Jenn? You seem to
know so much about the entity while I have never even seen one of
his/her/its posts.
BTW, I had looked up the numbers independently (and
posted a citation), so why should I ask some other guy to find them.
You meanwhile, simply made up some numbers and can't back them up.
Trying to argue about it simply makes you look like a fool.
You didn't ask the homosexual to post a cite, consequently, you have
no grounds on which to ask that I post one. See how that works, boy?
Should we go through what the messages quoted above show, including
your claim to be a tax cheat? The IRS might be real interested in
that one. :-)
What ever floats your boat, Jenn or Bill (which ever.)
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| User: "No One" |
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| Title: Re: First US Married Gay Couple Have Broken Up |
27 Jul 2006 11:37:04 PM |
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<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:13:18 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 04:16:36 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:47:49 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
You mean you think I have an obligation to reply to every post? You
made an outrageous claim, so back it up.
You don't ask your fellow homosexual to back up his claim, don't ask
me to back up mine. What's more I don't give a big rat's ***** whether
you believe me or not. What you think makes no difference, Jenn.
Still calling everyone who disagrees with you "gay"? And still pretending
I'm "Jenn" to cover up that you are Bill Taylor?
You are "Jenn", everyone knows that.
LOL - what a liar you are.
See
Message-ID < >
Message-ID <m3d5dvpb61.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> (for an analysis)
Message ID <hicrb2p6q7oc47m5fo1dnu5242jidarjrh@4ax.com>
Message ID <3pdub2lmidufb7u967jr09hoh1m82k86eq@4ax.com>
for what what is going on regarding Bill Taylor. If you had the
majurity of an adult, you'd simply provide the citation requested.
You won't because you lied, were caught, and can't admit it.
I responded to a homosexual's post in which he provided no cite for
his claim and you asked for none. I have no obligation to provide one
either and for you to ask for one is indicative of your bigotry, bias
and bull ***** <snip>
Bill Taylor is now trying to cover up the fact that he lied as he
always does.
Isn't "Bill Taylor" one of your long ago pantyhose, Jenn? You seem to
know so much about the entity while I have never even seen one of
his/her/its posts.
Don't know about Jenn, but you confirmed that you are Bill Taylor in
Message ID where you
indicated that you were familiar with the phone calls Bill Taylor
receives. In the posts with Message ID
<hicrb2p6q7oc47m5fo1dnu5242jidarjrh@4ax.com> and
<3pdub2lmidufb7u967jr09hoh1m82k86eq@4ax.com>, you indicated that
you have cheated on your taxes.
BTW, I had looked up the numbers independently (and
posted a citation), so why should I ask some other guy to find them.
You meanwhile, simply made up some numbers and can't back them up.
Trying to argue about it simply makes you look like a fool.
You didn't ask the homosexual to post a cite, consequently, you have
no grounds on which to ask that I post one. See how that works, boy?
Should we go through what the messages quoted above show, including
your claim to be a tax cheat? The IRS might be real interested in
that one. :-)
What ever floats your boat, Jenn or Bill (which ever.)
Oh, I wouldn't bring this up so much if I were you. Enough people
are mad at you that someone will probably report it to the IRS.
I won't bother merely because you lie so much that anything you
post is not credible anyway. But you do seem to think that it is
OK to cheat on your taxes, based on what you posted.
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: First US Married Gay Couple Have Broken Up |
28 Jul 2006 08:09:27 AM |
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On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 04:37:04 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:13:18 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006 04:16:36 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
<bibon@râlant.org> writes:
On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:47:49 GMT, No One <noone@nospam.pacbell.net>
wrote:
You mean you think I have an obligation to reply to every post? You
made an outrageous claim, so back it up.
You don't ask your fellow homosexual to back up his claim, don't ask
me to back up mine. What's more I don't give a big rat's ***** whether
you believe me or not. What you think makes no difference, Jenn.
Still calling everyone who disagrees with you "gay"? And still pretending
I'm "Jenn" to cover up that you are Bill Taylor?
You are "Jenn", everyone knows that.
LOL - what a liar you are.
See
Message-ID < >
Message-ID <m3d5dvpb61.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net> (for an analysis)
Message ID <hicrb2p6q7oc47m5fo1dnu5242jidarjrh@4ax.com>
Message ID <3pdub2lmidufb7u967jr09hoh1m82k86eq@4ax.com>
for what what is going on regarding Bill Taylor. If you had the
majurity of an adult, you'd simply provide the citation requested.
You won't because you lied, were caught, and can't admit it.
I responded to a homosexual's post in which he provided no cite for
his claim and you asked for none. I have no obligation to provide one
either and for you to ask for one is indicative of your bigotry, bias
and bull ***** <snip>
Bill Taylor is now trying to cover up the fact that he lied as he
always does.
Isn't "Bill Taylor" one of your long ago pantyhose, Jenn? You seem to
know so much about the entity while I have never even seen one of
his/her/its posts.
Don't know about Jenn, but you confirmed that you are Bill Taylor in
Message ID where you
indicated that you were familiar with the phone calls Bill Taylor
receives. In the posts with Message ID
<hicrb2p6q7oc47m5fo1dnu5242jidarjrh@4ax.com> and
<3pdub2lmidufb7u967jr09hoh1m82k86eq@4ax.com>, you indicated that
you have cheated on your taxes.
BTW, I had looked up the numbers independently (and
posted a citation), so why should I ask some other guy to find them.
You meanwhile, simply made up some numbers and can't back them up.
Trying to argue about it simply makes you look like a fool.
You didn't ask the homosexual to post a cite, consequently, you have
no grounds on which to ask that I post one. See how that works, boy?
Should we go through what the messages quoted above show, including
your claim to be a tax cheat? The IRS might be real interested in
that one. :-)
What ever floats your boat, Jenn or Bill (which ever.)
Oh, I wouldn't bring this up so much if I were you. Enough people
are mad at you that someone will probably report it to the IRS.
I won't bother merely because you lie so much that anything you
post is not credible anyway. But you do seem to think that it is
OK to cheat on your taxes, based on what you posted.
What ever floats your boat, Bill Taylor, aka Jenn.
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| User: "Dionisio" |
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| Title: Re: First US Married Gay Couple Have Broken Up |
26 Jul 2006 11:28:07 PM |
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bibon@râlant.org wrote:
You don't ask your fellow homosexual to back up his claim, don't ask
me to back up mine. What's more I don't give a big rat's ***** whether
you believe me or not. What you think makes no difference, Jenn.
All together now...
Shout it nice and loud...
1... 2... 3...
"SURE IT DON'T!"
--
"If Christians want us to believe in a Redeemer, let them act redeemed."
--Voltaire
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| User: "bam" |
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| Title: Re: First US Married Gay Couple Have Broken Up |
28 Jul 2006 06:34:35 AM |
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<bibon@râlant.org> wrote
Why haven't you asked the homosexual to back up his? Is because you
don't have any and just made up some numbers? Is it another special
right and privilege that homosexuals enjoy that they can post
"statistics" without reference to the source of the information, Jenn?
Yeah - isn't that nice. They have no sexual principles and they can lie
whenever the truth would be "hurtful".
Or didn't you know the rules?
BAM
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