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"Josef Balluch" |
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28 Feb 2005 06:58:16 PM |
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Five Men Drown During Baptism |
http://tinyurl.com/45w64
Four members of a congregation and a church cleric were drowned. The
bishop doing the baptism came close to drowning as well.
I imagine that Denny Gillespie could rationalize this.
Regards,
Josef
It was of course a grand and impressive thing to do to mistrust the
obvious, and to pin one's faith in things which could not be seen!
-- Galen
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| User: "Walter Bushell" |
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| Title: Re: Five Men Drown During Baptism |
04 Mar 2005 11:27:03 PM |
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In article <MPG.1c8d883388070438989a0b@206.172.150.13>,
Josef Balluch <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/45w64
Four members of a congregation and a church cleric were drowned. The
bishop doing the baptism came close to drowning as well.
I imagine that Denny Gillespie could rationalize this.
Regards,
Josef
It was of course a grand and impressive thing to do to mistrust the
obvious, and to pin one's faith in things which could not be seen!
-- Galen
Finally they are holding Baptist under water long enough?
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Guns don't kill people; automobiles kill people.
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| User: "Harry F. Leopold" |
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06 Mar 2005 08:04:46 AM |
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On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 23:27:03 -0600, Walter Bushell wrote
(in article <proto-90B623.00270305032005@reader2.panix.com>):
In article <MPG.1c8d883388070438989a0b@206.172.150.13>,
Josef Balluch <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/45w64
Four members of a congregation and a church cleric were drowned. The
bishop doing the baptism came close to drowning as well.
I imagine that Denny Gillespie could rationalize this.
Regards,
Josef
It was of course a grand and impressive thing to do to mistrust the
obvious, and to pin one's faith in things which could not be seen!
-- Galen
Finally they are holding Baptist under water long enough?
You owe me. You owe me a new bottle of Negra Modelo beer. That stuff is too
good to be used as nose wash.
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Harry F. Leopold
aa #2076
AA/Vet #4
The Prints of Darkness
(remove gene to email)
³Christians need not wish to get back at atheists, their own life is
punishment enough.³-K.C.
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| User: "Walter Bushell" |
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| Title: Re: Five Men Drown During Baptism |
06 Mar 2005 10:08:31 AM |
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In article <0001HW.BE506A1E00345099F02845B0@news.central.cox.net>,
Harry F. Leopold <hleopold@coxyx.net> wrote:
On Fri, 4 Mar 2005 23:27:03 -0600, Walter Bushell wrote
(in article <proto-90B623.00270305032005@reader2.panix.com>):
In article <MPG.1c8d883388070438989a0b@206.172.150.13>,
Josef Balluch <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/45w64
Four members of a congregation and a church cleric were drowned. The
bishop doing the baptism came close to drowning as well.
I imagine that Denny Gillespie could rationalize this.
Regards,
Josef
It was of course a grand and impressive thing to do to mistrust the
obvious, and to pin one's faith in things which could not be seen!
-- Galen
Finally they are holding Baptist under water long enough?
You owe me. You owe me a new bottle of Negra Modelo beer. That stuff is too
good to be used as nose wash.
I thought it well understood that nobody reads my posts with liquid in
their mouth. Gotta put warning labels on _everything these days! "Do not
eat the iPod Shuffle!" "Do not iron clothes while wearing them."
Anyways, it's just a spin on the old line about the only thing about
Baptists is they don't keep'em under water long enough.
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Guns don't kill people; automobiles kill people.
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| User: "johac" |
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| Title: Re: Five Men Drown During Baptism |
02 Mar 2005 12:49:55 AM |
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In article <MPG.1c8d883388070438989a0b@206.172.150.13>,
Josef Balluch <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/45w64
Four members of a congregation and a church cleric were drowned. The
bishop doing the baptism came close to drowning as well.
I imagine that Denny Gillespie could rationalize this.
I wonder if anyone has kept statistics on those who died during full
immersion baptisms? I think that it would be quite possible for someone
to have a heart attack of some sort of seizure or something during the
process.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "stoney" |
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03 Mar 2005 11:11:44 AM |
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 22:49:55 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <MPG.1c8d883388070438989a0b@206.172.150.13>,
Josef Balluch <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/45w64
Four members of a congregation and a church cleric were drowned. The
bishop doing the baptism came close to drowning as well.
I imagine that Denny Gillespie could rationalize this.
I wonder if anyone has kept statistics on those who died during full
immersion baptisms?
Doubt it. There wouldn't be much of a point.
I think that it would be quite possible for someone
to have a heart attack of some sort of seizure or something during the
process.
Or anytime else.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "johac" |
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04 Mar 2005 12:29:58 AM |
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In article <c8he215hgngjgovpfdi9mhgjf1v7eusf20@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 22:49:55 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <MPG.1c8d883388070438989a0b@206.172.150.13>,
Josef Balluch <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/45w64
Four members of a congregation and a church cleric were drowned. The
bishop doing the baptism came close to drowning as well.
I imagine that Denny Gillespie could rationalize this.
I wonder if anyone has kept statistics on those who died during full
immersion baptisms?
Doubt it. There wouldn't be much of a point.
I think that it would be quite possible for someone
to have a heart attack of some sort of seizure or something during the
process.
Or anytime else.
Some might experience stress, some might panic at being held underwater,
I was just wondering if anyone had data on this.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "stoney" |
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06 Mar 2005 09:43:07 AM |
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On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 22:29:58 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <c8he215hgngjgovpfdi9mhgjf1v7eusf20@4ax.com>,
stoney <stoney@the.net> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 22:49:55 -0800, johac <jhachm@ixpres.com> wrote:
In article <MPG.1c8d883388070438989a0b@206.172.150.13>,
Josef Balluch <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/45w64
Four members of a congregation and a church cleric were drowned. The
bishop doing the baptism came close to drowning as well.
I imagine that Denny Gillespie could rationalize this.
I wonder if anyone has kept statistics on those who died during full
immersion baptisms?
Doubt it. There wouldn't be much of a point.
I think that it would be quite possible for someone
to have a heart attack of some sort of seizure or something during the
process.
Or anytime else.
Some might experience stress, some might panic at being held underwater,
I was just wondering if anyone had data on this.
Some would, yes.
--
Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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| User: "Mike Painter" |
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04 Mar 2005 12:56:45 AM |
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johac wrote:
I wonder if anyone has kept statistics on those who died during full
immersion baptisms?
I vaguely remember a very old joke about a black man waking up in heaven and
St Peter asks if he remembers the last thing he did on earth. He was being
baptized by immersion in some white southern church.
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| User: "johac" |
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05 Mar 2005 02:07:17 AM |
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In article <NETVd.3234$C47.1465@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com>,
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
johac wrote:
I wonder if anyone has kept statistics on those who died during full
immersion baptisms?
I vaguely remember a very old joke about a black man waking up in heaven and
St Peter asks if he remembers the last thing he did on earth. He was being
baptized by immersion in some white southern church.
Heh! Reminds me of another old joke. The preacher holds the head of the
convert under water for a few seconds and lets him up. "Do you believe?"
says the preacher. "Well...." answers the convert, but before he can say
another word, the preacher shoves his head under this time for a minute.
"Do you believe?" he asks again. The guy says "Yeah, I guess..." Before
he can say another word the preacher dunks his head again and this time
keeps it there for two minutes. "Do you believe?" the preacher asks for
the third time. The convert sputtering and gasping for air shouts "I
believe! I believe that you're a ***** and trying to drown me!"
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John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "dgillesp" |
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02 Mar 2005 08:41:51 AM |
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johac wrote:
In article <MPG.1c8d883388070438989a0b@206.172.150.13>,
Josef Balluch <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/45w64
Four members of a congregation and a church cleric were drowned. The
bishop doing the baptism came close to drowning as well.
I imagine that Denny Gillespie could rationalize this.
I wonder if anyone has kept statistics on those who died during full
immersion baptisms? I think that it would be quite possible for someone
to have a heart attack of some sort of seizure or something during the
process.
The same argument applies to sex. Common sense would tell you that many
more die from cardiac arrest during the act of intercourse. Ergo, both
baptism and sexual intercourse should be abandoned? Or sports events, for
that matter. It does happen that a spectator watching the game will
suffer a heart attack or stroke in his excitement.
Denny
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John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "johac" |
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03 Mar 2005 12:24:27 AM |
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In article <4225D0AF.6479F2E5@nospam.net>,
dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote:
johac wrote:
In article <MPG.1c8d883388070438989a0b@206.172.150.13>,
Josef Balluch <josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/45w64
Four members of a congregation and a church cleric were drowned. The
bishop doing the baptism came close to drowning as well.
I imagine that Denny Gillespie could rationalize this.
I wonder if anyone has kept statistics on those who died during full
immersion baptisms? I think that it would be quite possible for someone
to have a heart attack of some sort of seizure or something during the
process.
The same argument applies to sex. Common sense would tell you that many
more die from cardiac arrest during the act of intercourse. Ergo, both
baptism and sexual intercourse should be abandoned? Or sports events, for
that matter. It does happen that a spectator watching the game will
suffer a heart attack or stroke in his excitement.
Um, I don't recall calling for a ban on sports, sex, or even baptisms
for that matter. I was asking for information. Try reading a little more
carefully next time.
--
John Hachmann aa #1782
Intelligent Design has as much to do with science as reality
television has to do with reality. - Barry Lynn on CNN 12/25/04
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| User: "dgillesp" |
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01 Mar 2005 09:57:40 AM |
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Josef Balluch wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/45w64
Four members of a congregation and a church cleric were drowned. The
bishop doing the baptism came close to drowning as well.
I imagine that Denny Gillespie could rationalize this.
Regards,
Josef
It was of course a grand and impressive thing to do to mistrust the
obvious, and to pin one's faith in things which could not be seen!
-- Galen
The world is obviously flat, don't you know? Why pin your faith on a
spherical earth?
The earth is obviously the center of the universe, because everything
obviously revolves around it.
The sun obviously orbits the earth because the sun rises and the sun
sets, does it not?
Flora and fauna were specially created--that's been obvious to mankind
since the beginning of human history.
Why pin your faith on some kind of evolutionary process?
Obviously someone has to question the obvious or we never get the things
that cannot be seen in view. "Some things have to be believed in order
to be seen."
Denny
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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01 Mar 2005 08:37:50 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, dgillesp poured fuel on the fire
with the following:
....
The world is obviously flat, don't you know?
No.
Why pin your faith on a
spherical earth?
No faith is involved. It is belief that the earth is flat which requires
faith, since there is much evidence to the contrary.
The earth is obviously the center of the universe, because everything
obviously revolves around it.
The North Star does not revolve around the earth.
The sun obviously orbits the earth because the sun rises and the sun
sets, does it not?
No. The experiment with Foucault's pendulum can establish that the globe
is, in fact, rotating.
http://tinyurl.com/4vv2l
This experiment can also establish the rate of the globe's rotation,
showing that it is almost exactly the same as the rate at which the sun
"moves" around the earth.
The cyclonic pattern of major weather systems also point to a rotating
globe.
Flora and fauna were specially created--that's been obvious to mankind
since the beginning of human history.
Why pin your faith on some kind of evolutionary process?
No faith is involved. Creation requires faith, due to a complete lack of
supporting evidence and the fact that divine creation is a demonstrable
fallacy.
Obviously someone has to question the obvious or we never get the things
that cannot be seen in view. "Some things have to be believed in order
to be seen."
Argumentum ad Nauseum.
The delusions of people such as yourself are the most common things that
would have to be believed to be "seen".
Regards,
Josef
Belief is pointless. It neither validates ideas that cannot withstand
scrutiny, nor improves those that can.
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| User: "dgillesp" |
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02 Mar 2005 09:06:42 AM |
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Josef Balluch wrote:
In a message sent 'round the world, dgillesp poured fuel on the fire
with the following:
...
The world is obviously flat, don't you know?
No.
People assumed so for much of human history, because obviously appears to
be flat. My grandfather (d. 1929) believed it was until the day he died.
Why pin your faith on a
spherical earth?
No faith is involved. It is belief that the earth is flat which requires
faith, since there is much evidence to the contrary.
True today but that is a relatively modern discovery. Someone had to
believe otherwise in order to learn the facts.
The earth is obviously the center of the universe, because everything
obviously revolves around it.
The North Star does not revolve around the earth.
A mere anomoly. Most everything suggested that earth was the center of the
universe. That was obvious conclusion from simple observation. Someone had
to believe otherwise in order to correct the obvious but incorrect notion.
The sun obviously orbits the earth because the sun rises and the sun
sets, does it not?
No. The experiment with Foucault's pendulum can establish that the globe
is, in fact, rotating.
http://tinyurl.com/4vv2l
This experiment can also establish the rate of the globe's rotation,
showing that it is almost exactly the same as the rate at which the sun
"moves" around the earth.
The cyclonic pattern of major weather systems also point to a rotating
globe.
We are talking here about what appears to be obvious, requiring someone who
*believes* otherwise to experiment and do research to prove his theory.
Flora and fauna were specially created--that's been obvious to mankind
since the beginning of human history.
Why pin your faith on some kind of evolutionary process?
No faith is involved. Creation requires faith, due to a complete lack of
supporting evidence and the fact that divine creation is a demonstrable
fallacy.
Again, the issue here is what appears obvious to the human race which makes it
necessary for someone who *believes* the obvious is deceptive and sets out to
prove otherwise.
Obviously someone has to question the obvious or we never get the things
that cannot be seen in view. "Some things have to be believed in order
to be seen."
Argumentum ad Nauseum.
But ever so true, nevertheless.
The delusions of people such as yourself are the most common things that
would have to be believed to be "seen".
Pretty much what the Roman Church said about Galileo, but was proved to be
quite wrong.
Regards,
Josef
Belief is pointless. It neither validates ideas that cannot withstand
scrutiny, nor improves those that can.
Without belief we would discover little beyond what appears to be obvious
but is misleading.
Denny
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| User: "Josef Balluch" |
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02 Mar 2005 10:26:25 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, dgillesp poured fuel on the fire
with the following:
Josef Balluch wrote:
In a message sent 'round the world, dgillesp poured fuel on the fire
with the following:
...
The world is obviously flat, don't you know?
No.
People assumed so for much of human history, ...
Irrelevant. There was no discussion of history, and all your questions
were phrased in the present tense.
... because obviously appears to
be flat. My grandfather (d. 1929) believed it was until the day he died.
The ancient Greeks knew that the earth was spherical. So what was your
grandfather's excuse?
http://www.roundearth.net/sphere.htm
So much for the value of belief.
Why pin your faith on a
spherical earth?
No faith is involved. It is belief that the earth is flat which requires
faith, since there is much evidence to the contrary.
True today but that is a relatively modern discovery.
ROTFL !!
Someone had to
believe otherwise in order to learn the facts.
Unsupported assertion.
The earth is obviously the center of the universe, because everything
obviously revolves around it.
The North Star does not revolve around the earth.
A mere anomoly.
ROTFL !!
Most everything suggested that earth was the center of the
universe.
Most everything, except that which showed otherwise.
That was obvious conclusion from simple observation. Someone had
to believe otherwise in order to correct the obvious but incorrect notion.
Unsupported assertion.
The sun obviously orbits the earth because the sun rises and the sun
sets, does it not?
No. The experiment with Foucault's pendulum can establish that the globe
is, in fact, rotating.
http://tinyurl.com/4vv2l
This experiment can also establish the rate of the globe's rotation,
showing that it is almost exactly the same as the rate at which the sun
"moves" around the earth.
The cyclonic pattern of major weather systems also point to a rotating
globe.
We are talking here about what appears to be obvious, requiring someone who
*believes* otherwise to experiment and do research to prove his theory.
Unsupported assertion.
The principle underlying the Foucault pendulum was discovered by
accident. Foucault did not set out to "prove" the rotation of the earth.
He was aware of it's rotation. Once he understood the principle Foucault
realized that the pendulum would respond to a rotating earth, and he
confirmed this with further experiment.
http://www.abc.net.au/surf/pendulum/pendulum.htm#history
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foucault_pendulum
http://itotd.com/index.alt?ArticleID=362
Flora and fauna were specially created--that's been obvious to mankind
since the beginning of human history.
Why pin your faith on some kind of evolutionary process?
No faith is involved. Creation requires faith, due to a complete lack of
supporting evidence and the fact that divine creation is a demonstrable
fallacy.
Again, the issue here is what appears obvious to the human race ...
Baloney. Divine creation is not at all obvious, and is nothing more than
rampant speculation. As I stated, there is a complete lack of supporting
evidence. I challenge you to show me the "obvious" nature of divine
creation.
... which makes it
necessary for someone who *believes* the obvious is deceptive and sets out to
prove otherwise.
Unsupported assertion.
Obviously someone has to question the obvious or we never get the things
that cannot be seen in view. "Some things have to be believed in order
to be seen."
Argumentum ad Nauseum.
But ever so true, nevertheless.
Baloney.
Your delusions would not be worth believing, and certainly not worth
"seeing".
The delusions of people such as yourself are the most common things that
would have to be believed to be "seen".
Pretty much what the Roman Church said about Galileo, but was proved to be
quite wrong.
I take it this is another of your attempts to find "hidden meaning". I
suggest you produce some support for your claim.
Cardinal Bellarmine said of Galileo's ideas: "to affirm that the Sun,
in its very truth, is at the center of the universe...is a very
dangerous attitude and one calculated not only to arouse all Scholastic
philosophers and theologians but also to injure our faith by
contradicting the Scriptures."
The eleven theologians ("Qualifiers") called upon to evaluate Galileo's
ideas called those ideas "foolish and absurd" and "formally heretical."
Pope Paul V declared that Galileo was to "abstain altogether from
teaching or defending this opinion and even from discussing it."
http://tinyurl.com/43ysz
The main fear of the church was the loss of it's final authority, and of
the authority of scripture. There was no admission that Galileo's ideas
could actually be correct. Such a possibility was simply dismissed.
Regards,
Josef
Faith is when you believe something that nobody in his right mind
would believe.
-- Archie Bunker
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| User: "dgillesp" |
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28 Feb 2005 09:29:12 PM |
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Josef Balluch wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/45w64
Four members of a congregation and a church cleric were drowned. The
bishop doing the baptism came close to drowning as well.
I imagine that Denny Gillespie could rationalize this.
What's to rationalize? Baptism has never been touted as an insurance
policy against accidents, miscalculation, or natural disaster. "The
rain falls on both the just and the unjust" according to the Book.
Besides, baptism in a river (I surmise) seems a bit out of season and
not to wise in the month of February.
[P.S., your link didn't work because of javascript error]
Denny
Regards,
Josef
It was of course a grand and impressive thing to do to mistrust the
obvious, and to pin one's faith in things which could not be seen!
-- Galen
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01 Mar 2005 06:40:15 PM |
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In a message sent 'round the world, dgillesp poured fuel on the fire
with the following:
Josef Balluch wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/45w64
Four members of a congregation and a church cleric were drowned. The
bishop doing the baptism came close to drowning as well.
I imagine that Denny Gillespie could rationalize this.
What's to rationalize?
Why a loving, omniscient, etc. etc. deity would allow this.
C'mon, Denny. You can do it.
Baptism has never been touted as an insurance
policy against accidents, miscalculation, or natural disaster.
Can't recall having claimed otherwise. Your technique for uncovering
"hidden meaning" needs a little tweaking.
"The
rain falls on both the just and the unjust" according to the Book.
So lame. I'm disappointed.
Besides, baptism in a river (I surmise) seems a bit out of season and
not to wise in the month of February.
The planet isn't flat, Denny.
Even if it IS "obvious" to you that it is.
[P.S., your link didn't work because of javascript error]
Worked fine for me. I suggest you consult the nearest five year old for
instructions on operating your computer.
Regards,
Josef
Argue for your limitations, and sure enough they're yours.
-- Richard Bach
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| User: "Al Klein" |
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28 Feb 2005 11:32:32 PM |
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:29:12 -0500, dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net>
said in alt.atheism:
Josef Balluch wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/45w64
Four members of a congregation and a church cleric were drowned. The
bishop doing the baptism came close to drowning as well.
I imagine that Denny Gillespie could rationalize this.
What's to rationalize? Baptism has never been touted as an insurance
policy against accidents, miscalculation, or natural disaster. "The
rain falls on both the just and the unjust" according to the Book.
Besides, baptism in a river (I surmise) seems a bit out of season and
not to wise in the month of February.
In February, in South Africa, it's summer.
--
rukbat at verizon dot net
"I received your letter of June 10th. I have never talked to a Jesuit
priest in my life and I am astonished by the audacity to tell such lies
about me. From the viewpoint of a Jesuit priest I am, of course, and
have always been an atheist."
- Albert Einstein to Guy H. Raner Jr, July 2, 1945,
responding to a rumor that a Jesuit priest had caused Einstein
to convert from atheism. Article by Michael R. Gilmore in Skeptic
magazine, Vol. 5, No. 2, 1997
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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| Title: Re: Five Men Drown During Baptism |
01 Mar 2005 02:18:18 AM |
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:29:12 -0500, dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net>
wrote:
Josef Balluch wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/45w64
Four members of a congregation and a church cleric were drowned. The
bishop doing the baptism came close to drowning as well.
I imagine that Denny Gillespie could rationalize this.
What's to rationalize? Baptism has never been touted as an insurance
policy against accidents, miscalculation, or natural disaster. "The
rain falls on both the just and the unjust" according to the Book.
Besides, baptism in a river (I surmise) seems a bit out of season and
not to wise in the month of February.
Having baptisms right next to a riptide- bad idea.....
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1497 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "Walter Bushell" |
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| Title: Re: Five Men Drown During Baptism |
05 Mar 2005 07:16:19 PM |
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In article <p39821p8i072bfl27v7h72jg8chslb071l@4ax.com>,
"Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's Cocaine Snorting *****"
<eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:29:12 -0500, dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net>
wrote:
Josef Balluch wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/45w64
Four members of a congregation and a church cleric were drowned. The
bishop doing the baptism came close to drowning as well.
I imagine that Denny Gillespie could rationalize this.
What's to rationalize? Baptism has never been touted as an insurance
policy against accidents, miscalculation, or natural disaster. "The
rain falls on both the just and the unjust" according to the Book.
Besides, baptism in a river (I surmise) seems a bit out of season and
not to wise in the month of February.
Having baptisms right next to a riptide- bad idea.....
The bombs fall on the just,
And unjust fellow,
But mainly on the just,
Because the unjust man,
Is in the just man's cellar.
--
Guns don't kill people; automobiles kill people.
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| User: "MarkA" |
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| Title: Re: Five Men Drown During Baptism |
01 Mar 2005 11:30:56 AM |
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 00:18:18 -0800, Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:29:12 -0500, dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote:
Josef Balluch wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/45w64
Four members of a congregation and a church cleric were drowned. The
bishop doing the baptism came close to drowning as well.
I imagine that Denny Gillespie could rationalize this.
What's to rationalize? Baptism has never been touted as an insurance
policy against accidents, miscalculation, or natural disaster. "The
rain falls on both the just and the unjust" according to the Book.
Besides, baptism in a river (I surmise) seems a bit out of season and not
to wise in the month of February.
Having baptisms right next to a riptide- bad idea.....
Obviously, it was an "act of God." I'm sure the surviving family members
are ecstatic that they were chosen in that way.
--
MarkA
(still caught in the maze of twisty little passages, all different)
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| User: "Yang, AthD h.c, Kicking AWOLs Cocaine Snorting Ass" |
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| Title: Re: Five Men Drown During Baptism |
01 Mar 2005 09:21:01 PM |
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 17:30:56 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 00:18:18 -0800, Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:29:12 -0500, dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote:
Josef Balluch wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/45w64
Four members of a congregation and a church cleric were drowned. The
bishop doing the baptism came close to drowning as well.
I imagine that Denny Gillespie could rationalize this.
What's to rationalize? Baptism has never been touted as an insurance
policy against accidents, miscalculation, or natural disaster. "The
rain falls on both the just and the unjust" according to the Book.
Besides, baptism in a river (I surmise) seems a bit out of season and not
to wise in the month of February.
Having baptisms right next to a riptide- bad idea.....
Obviously, it was an "act of God." I'm sure the surviving family members
are ecstatic that they were chosen in that way.
My first question was: don't they have rivers in South Africa?
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Yang
a.a. #28
AthD (h.c.) conferred by the regents of the LCL
a.a. pastor #-273.15, the most frigid church of Celcius nee Kelvin
EAC Econometric Forecast and Sorcery Division
Proudly plonked by Lani Girl and Crazyalec (aka aka Yang's little poltregeist *****)
The Bush 'balanced' budget: 1.6 trillion and worsening
The Bush 'economic' policy: 12 million FEWER jobs than Clinton and counting
The Bush Iraq lie: -1497 GIs, one friend's co-worker's son and mounting
Having Bush ***** up my country: Worthless
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| User: "" |
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| Title: Re: Five Men Drown During Baptism |
02 Mar 2005 03:22:34 AM |
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On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 19:21:01 -0800, "Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting *****" <eacmole@/*AWOLBUSH*/mail.com> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 17:30:56 GMT, MarkA <manthony@stopspam.net> wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2005 00:18:18 -0800, Yang, AthD (h.c), Kicking AWOL's
Cocaine Snorting ***** wrote:
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 22:29:12 -0500, dgillesp <dgillesp@nospam.net> wrote:
Josef Balluch wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/45w64
Four members of a congregation and a church cleric were drowned. The
bishop doing the baptism came close to drowning as well.
I imagine that Denny Gillespie could rationalize this.
What's to rationalize? Baptism has never been touted as an insurance
policy against accidents, miscalculation, or natural disaster. "The
rain falls on both the just and the unjust" according to the Book.
Besides, baptism in a river (I surmise) seems a bit out of season and not
to wise in the month of February.
Having baptisms right next to a riptide- bad idea.....
Obviously, it was an "act of God." I'm sure the surviving family members
are ecstatic that they were chosen in that way.
My first question was: don't they have rivers in South Africa?
Sure, with lots of piranha! Something really bad could happen to
the...
<blink...blink>
Nope, no piranha there, nope, nosiree! Go right ahead and do your
baptisms in the river!!!.
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Yang
a.a. #28
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zamboni #2139
BAAWA Assistant to the Vice-Administrator of Malevolence
EAC Tertiary Adjunct to the Dispenser of Obfuscation.
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| User: "stoney" |
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| Title: Re: Five Men Drown During Baptism |
03 Mar 2005 11:08:56 AM |
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On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 19:58:16 -0500, Josef Balluch
<josef.balluch@sympatico.can> wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/45w64
Four members of a congregation and a church cleric were drowned. The
bishop doing the baptism came close to drowning as well.
I imagine that Denny Gillespie could rationalize this.
Allah Akubar!
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Contempt of Congress meter reading-offscale.
Hello, theocracy with a fundamentalist US Supreme
Court who will ensure church and state are joined
at the hip like clergy and altar boys.
America 1776-Jan 2001 RIP
Religion is the original war crime.
-Michelle Malkin (Feb 26, 2005)
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